UEA: Brexit Remain Vote Probability Zero – UPDATE Brexit WIN

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Guest essay by Eric Worrall

A tremendous political drama with broad ramifications for Global Climate Policy is unfolding in Britain, as referendum votes are tallied for whether Britain should remain part of the European Union.

While the general consensus is the result is running neck and neck, with an almost 50:50 split in the vote, Chris Hanretty, reader in Politics at the University of East Anglia, home of the infamous Climatic Research Unit, thinks the chances of Britain voting to remain part of the EU is zero.

EU referendum rolling forecasts

03:00 Fifth forecast update

My predictions continue to be much more pessimistic for Remain than the betting markets, though they seem to be in between estimates from Michael Thrasher and JP Morgan.

Predicted probability of Britain Remaining: 0

(81 of 382 areas reporting.)

Predicted vote share for Remain: 47.1 percent.

(90% prediction interval: 46.1 to 48.1 percent)

Read more: https://medium.com/@chrishanretty/eu-referendum-rolling-forecasts-1a625014af55#.rv1inwb7a

The British EU referendum vote has potentially major consequences for global climate policy. Prominent greens seem to want Britain to remain part of the anti-democratic EU, because this would bind elected British politicians to continue to adhere to strong European Union green targets.

A British vote to leave might even trigger a soviet style unravelling of the entire EU – France, Holland and Italy are also preparing to hold referendums to leave the EU, if Britain votes to leave.

More to come, when the count is complete.

UPDATE (EW): Brexit is looking even more likely – other major polling organisations are predicting a victory for Britain leaving the European Union.

Sky News

http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stories/2016/06/24/voting-continues-in-brexit-referendum.html

Guardian

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2016/jun/23/eu-referendum-result-live-counting-leave-remain-brain-in-europe

etc.

UPDATE 2 (EW) – BREXIT Wins, Prime Minister David Cameron, who supported remain, resigns. If the “Brexit Contagion” spreads, this may be a fatal political blow to the hardline green policies of the European Union.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/24/eu-referendum-results-live-brexit-wins-as-britain-votes-to-leave/

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jstanley01
June 23, 2016 8:02 pm
Marcus
Reply to  jstanley01
June 23, 2016 8:21 pm
Reply to  Marcus
June 24, 2016 12:12 pm

Well the left wing socialist experiment is over and Britain escaped.. I hear muttering that they’re going to be alone over this – but I’d remind those folk that the Commonwealth is still strong, Britain still has allies, there after all these years .. and that the Commonwealth has held together so firmly it proves the right wing policy of allowing people self determination rather that dictation in their own countries is the best way.

Bryan A
Reply to  Marcus
June 24, 2016 12:44 pm

Just sit right back and you’ll hear a tale,
A tale of a fateful trick
That started from this UK port
and led to the Brexit.
Prince Charles was a mighty sailing man,
The Queen was brave and sure.
the commonwealth set sail that day
For a twenty three year tour, a twenty three year tour.
The weather started getting rough,
The commonwealth was tossed,
If not for the courage of the voting crowds
The Brexit would be lost, the Brexit would be lost.
The UK’s now back on firm ground autonomy in sight
With Prince Charles
The Queen’s there too,
David Cameron resigned with his wife,
there might be turmoil
within the other member states,
Here on Brexit Isle.

Reply to  jstanley01
June 23, 2016 8:50 pm

Can’t see any real time stuff at the BBC. Not surprised.
Best site I have found is http://www.telegraph.co.uk.
“Remain camp … trailing Leave by more than 589,000 votes” at 4:24am.
“Leave have swept up more than 13 million of the 16.8 million votes needed to win” at 4:38am.
Looks like UEA might have finally got something right 🙂

SC
Reply to  Martin Clark
June 23, 2016 9:09 pm

It was an advisory referendum and thus not legally binding upon parliament in any event. The vast majority of MP’s publicly supported remaining in the EU so they wouldn’t be moving fast anyway. If they did leave they would have something resembling the arrangement non-EU member Norway has with the EU. Basically it abides by and passes most if not all EU laws anyway.
My guess is that the bankers are going to inflict some major pain on Britain.

simple-touriste
Reply to  SC
June 23, 2016 9:33 pm

“It was an advisory referendum and thus not legally binding upon parliament in any event.”
So they can stay until the European bullies are neutralized.

SC
Reply to  Martin Clark
June 23, 2016 9:22 pm

The good news is that the depression will drastically reduce Britain’s energy consumption so it’s a big win for the climate scientists, Even better is when the budget cuts eventually do come, just like with the Australian climate scientists, they’ll be out of jobs.
HadJOB4.4 as it were.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/feb/04/csiro-confirms-300-job-cuts-with-climate-research-bearing-the-brunt
I don’t think they thought about that.

LdB
Reply to  Martin Clark
June 23, 2016 10:16 pm

You would need to be a brave politician to stand up and tell the 52% there vote doesn’t count in a democracy SC. You might have got away with it on an almost tied vote but no politician is brave enough to try that on.

Reply to  Martin Clark
June 23, 2016 10:59 pm

SC said: “It was an advisory referendum and thus not legally binding upon parliament in any event.”
NO. You are wrong SC. The great British public has spoken. Government HAS to bow to the will of the people.

Sparky
Reply to  Martin Clark
June 24, 2016 4:54 am

Actually we still need the eu to vote to allow us to leave under article 50 !!. but we have up to 2 years to negotiate

ferdberple
Reply to  Martin Clark
June 24, 2016 9:24 am

It was an advisory referendum and thus not legally binding upon parliament
=====================
Charles I probably thought the same thing.

Bryan A
Reply to  Martin Clark
June 24, 2016 10:15 am

SC
With Bankers involved, will it be a Major Pain or something more akin to Capital Punishment

sadbutmadlad
Reply to  Martin Clark
June 25, 2016 1:42 am

@SC, “If they did leave they would have something resembling the arrangement non-EU member Norway has with the EU. Basically it abides by and passes most if not all EU laws anyway.”
Norway doesn’t pass most of EU laws. It does that required for trade, just the same as countries that sell to the US follow US regulations. Actual figure is about 10% of Norwegian laws are EU ones, unlike the UK where the figure is way higher.
http://www.aecr.eu/less-than-10-of-norways-laws-emanate-from-brussels/

Reply to  jstanley01
June 23, 2016 9:27 pm

Leave 52% to 48% called by the BBC minutes ago.

TG
Reply to  asybot
June 24, 2016 3:33 am

A swift UK boot to the rear end of the EU elitist, the beginning of the end of world government and their phony climate plans– Oh so sad!

3x2
Reply to  jstanley01
June 23, 2016 10:47 pm

https://www.thesun.co.uk/ (valid only on 24th June 2016)

3x2
Reply to  3x2
June 23, 2016 10:48 pm
3x2
Reply to  3x2
June 23, 2016 11:07 pm

Done deal – 7am UK time … We are OUT

June 23, 2016 8:11 pm

The real problem with “scientific” issues that become political is to act early enough to make sure you can vote the puppies out. The US EPA is getting like the EU climate change bureaucrats, very difficult to remove.

Science or Fiction
Reply to  Tom Halla
June 23, 2016 9:46 pm

So also with United Nations – unelected powerful bureaucrats – far out of line with their charter.

Mick In The Hills
Reply to  Science or Fiction
June 23, 2016 10:16 pm

Yes our Australian ABC just has an EU “expert” on who conceded that the EU had incrementally expanded its mission over these past 3 or 4 decades to the extent that people in the UK (and elsewhere) were concerned about their nation losing its identity and sovereignty .
The EU unelected bureaucrats and media elite have cheesed the people off by laying down too much regulation for them to swallow.
Taken together with the Trump populist push-back in the US, the politico-media elite should be worried. The plebs are mad as hell, and not going to take it any more.
The UN will be next to feel the disdain of the plebs.

E.M.Smith
Editor
Reply to  Science or Fiction
June 24, 2016 1:44 am

IMHO, it was the kettle ban wot dun it
https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2016/06/22/laugh-or-cry-and-then-they-came-for-the-kettle/
Never mess with a Brits tea….

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Science or Fiction
June 24, 2016 3:52 am

to EM SMiths kettle comment, yeah the cuppa is sacred:-)
followed by?
the ban on any vacuum cleaner over 900w also another EU gem
that one seems to have been pushed by Dyson and EU collaborating
under the guise of green low energy use etc
thing is? theyre 4x the cost of alt cleaners so they can be great as they like,
if theyre unaffordable its of little use to someone looking for repair or a cheap new unit.

Reply to  Science or Fiction
June 24, 2016 4:21 am

@ozspeaksup
James Dyson was firmly & publicly against the ban on high-powered hoovers, despite it not affecting his products.
He said it was a scam orchestrated by the big, mainly German, manufacturers in order to make competition, (especially small technologically disruptive competition) harder.

Science or Fiction
Reply to  James Bolivar DiGriz
June 24, 2016 11:34 am

A ban on high-powered would be pretty much like a ban on well-done steaks – quite silly!

TG
Reply to  Science or Fiction
June 24, 2016 4:25 am

The Queen helped lead the way when she endorsed Brexit last week. Long live the Queen.

urederra
Reply to  Science or Fiction
June 24, 2016 8:05 am

Brussels is the new Vatican, The EU president is like a Pope, not elected by the people, but in a conclave and he thinks his policies are ineffable, like when the Pope speaks about faith.

Barbara
Reply to  Science or Fiction
June 24, 2016 12:45 pm

So the Queen pulled the rug out from under the PM!

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Science or Fiction
June 24, 2016 11:24 pm

“TG June 24, 2016 at 4:25 am”
That is strange as she has German heritage. Phillip is Greek.

simple-touriste
Reply to  Science or Fiction
June 25, 2016 1:18 pm

“The EU president is like a Pope”
At that point, the EU is like a Pope who would order a conclave on the right to enter a church with wet hairs when these same conclavists are busy making sextapes.
The EU is broken. The “europhiles” are batcrazy.

Gabro
Reply to  Science or Fiction
June 25, 2016 1:23 pm

Patrick,
Philip is of German-Danish descent. His dynasty was chosen to rule Greece, but he has no Greek ancestry. He was however born in Greece, so in that sense, you’re correct.
If not for EII’s Scottish mother, Prince Charles would be as about German-Danish as the queen’s father, George VI.

Felflames
Reply to  Tom Halla
June 24, 2016 1:52 am

One executive order created The EPA.
One executive order can terminate it..

TG
Reply to  Felflames
June 24, 2016 3:46 am

Please make it so!!!!

MarkW
Reply to  Felflames
June 24, 2016 7:13 am

It was created by an executive order, but lots of laws further implementing have been passed since then.
It will take more than a mere executive order to terminate that monster.

george e. smith
Reply to  Felflames
June 24, 2016 7:26 am

“””””…..
MarkW
June 24, 2016 at 7:13 am
It was created by an executive order, but lots of laws further implementing have been passed since then. …..”””””
Well lots of ” regulations ” imposed by unelected beaurocrats have been passed. Not so many laws written by the elected members of the Congress. Perhaps some intelligent unelected new beaurocrats can unregulated all of that crap.
G
Yes I know; I like mine better !

simple-touriste
June 23, 2016 8:12 pm

“France, Holland and Italy are also preparing to hold referendums to leave the EU, if Britain votes to leave.”
Weed? Vodka? What is your thing?

Reply to  Eric Worrall
June 23, 2016 9:32 pm

Leave are the good guys. The remain people are sycophants and finally get what they deserve. The whining by the Remain people on BBC is disgusting they are treating the Leave voters as if they are stupid, don’t know nothing. All they are talking about is the Pound losing value. I bet you within 1 week the whole thing will stabilize and it will be better for Britain. I am buying British products every time I can!!!

simple-touriste
Reply to  Eric Worrall
June 23, 2016 9:50 pm

The remain champions are people who believe the motivations are the Islamist in Orlando are unclear and should be investigated for months before any analysis is proposed, and the guy had psychological issues and it’s a “hate” crime anyway (the opposite of a “love” crime, or a “I don’t hate you and I don’t care about you either way” crime, or something) … but when a very progressist pro-remain (and pro “Palestine”) MP is killed, the meaning of the crime is clear even before the body is cold, it was caused by the brexiters even though they haven’t really caused it, their arguments have caused it (or something), and it’s a political event and the murder is part of the political campaign…
So thank you Barrack Hussein.
Thank you the Dem party.
Thank you the graun.
Thank you the globalist medias.
And thank you Jean-Claude the bully Juncker.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Eric Worrall
June 24, 2016 3:53 am

@simple-touriste: According to my beloved (& somewhat discheveld) 1925 Pocket Oxfrod English Dictionary, an interesting definition cropped up a couple of words above the one I sought, (Juno). The word was……..Junker: “Member of the reactionary land-owning aristocracy in Prussia”! Naaah, must be just a coincidence,……surely?

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Eric Worrall
June 24, 2016 6:21 am

simple-touriste said:

but when a very progressist pro-remain (and pro “Palestine”) MP is killed, the meaning of the crime is clear even before the body is cold, it was caused by the brexiters even though they haven’t really caused it,

T’wouldn’t surprise me at all ….. iffen it was a select group of “Remainers” who intentionally sacrificed “one-of-their-own” ……. in a failed attempt to garner a “last minute” sympathy vote from the gullible Britons.
Remember, LBJ beat out Goldwater for the POTUS job by airing an AD portraying a pretty little girl getting blown up by an H-bomb when she was picking wildflowers.
Goldwater promised to H-bomb North Viet Nam to end the deadly carnage of US military personnel. The bleeding-heart liberals and other partisan Democrats voted for LBJ …. and the carnage continued unabated.

oeman50
Reply to  Eric Worrall
June 24, 2016 7:04 am

I heard a snooty Brit on the radio here in the US this AM saying the UK has “turned its back on the world” and is “returning to an isolationist island nation.” I guess that means the UK never achieved anything before the EU. What a crock.

george e. smith
Reply to  simple-touriste
June 24, 2016 7:39 am

There may be a side play. I saw at least one ‘ news ‘ broadcast from Scotland, that suggested that most Scots, voted to stay, and are unhappy with being ” dragged out ” against their wishes.
That (if true) could result in the UK itself doing a nuclear fission.
Any case, though none of my business directly, my ancestral ties there are acknowledged and respected. And I say; ” Good on ya Mates ! ” And I’m happy to learn (from WUWT above) that Her Queenness was supportive; I always felt she was that way inclined.
And it might also strengthen (voluntarily) the Commonwealth of Nations. I’d welcome that too.
But supportively; because now I am a Yank, and a dehyphenestrated one, so again NOMB !
All in all another great day for FREEDOM.
G

Editor
Reply to  george e. smith
June 24, 2016 9:16 am

If the scots want out of the UK, fine.
Now the oil price has nosedived, their economy is effectively bankrupt.

Gabro
Reply to  george e. smith
June 24, 2016 10:31 am

Scotland, NI and London may rethink their interest in leaving the UK to stay in the EU if their exit means having to adopt the funny money Euro.

Philip Peake
Reply to  george e. smith
June 24, 2016 2:52 pm

Its true that every county in Scotland voted to remain. But what they are not mentioning is that the voter turn-out in Scotland was significantly lower than in England (around 60% in Scotland and more like 75 to 80% in England).
If the turnout had been similar, there might have been a very different voting pattern in Scotland. (Same applies to N. Ireland).

Mark Thomas
Reply to  george e. smith
June 26, 2016 11:41 am

Philip Peake said:”
Its true that every county in Scotland voted to remain. But what they are not mentioning is that the voter turn-out in Scotland was significantly lower than in England (around 60% in Scotland and more like 75 to 80% in England).”
Wrong! Scottish turn-out was more that 67% with a 62/38 split in favour of remaining, whereas England was less than 73% with a 53/47 split in favour of leaving. Even if Scotland’s turn-out has been as large as England, and all the extra votes were to leave, The Scottish vote would still be overwhelmingly in favour of remaining.
Don’t put Scotland down like that with false figures plucked from the air!

Marcus
June 23, 2016 8:17 pm

Leave up by 500,000…Looks good !

Janice Moore
June 23, 2016 8:17 pm

Dear God, let it be so! The United Kingdom did not fight to prevent its domination by European powers over and over and over to succumb to them now…
Rule, Britannia!

GO, UNITED KINGDOM!!!
***.***.***.***.***.
(for those who believe in God, I will tell you something very personal — I have been praying this prayer for many years, now, “Please, destroy the European Union (as an entity).” Maybe, God is saying, “Yes!” 🙂 )

Marcus
Reply to  Janice Moore
June 23, 2016 8:22 pm

Leave up 600,000 now

simple-touriste
Reply to  Janice Moore
June 23, 2016 8:30 pm

EU-as-a-peace-entity already self-destroyed in order to intimidate the people.
The credibility of the globalist mafia reached a new low.

Janice Moore
Reply to  Janice Moore
June 23, 2016 8:51 pm

Oh, dear British people, turn around! Look back….. the British soldier stumbling and falling on the fields of Waterloo….. of Flanders….. and on “Gold” and “Sword” beaches…. is waving you on…. .
Do — it — for — them.

V

Paul Westhaver
Reply to  Janice Moore
June 23, 2016 9:32 pm

Hello Janice.
I dislike globalism because I believe western democracies, esp UK, USA, Can, are special.
I don’t like 3rd world mud hut dwellers making policy to which I must adhere.
Buy the pound!

Janice Moore
Reply to  Janice Moore
June 23, 2016 9:43 pm

Hello, Paul Westhaver! I can’t buy any pounds, but ISN’T THIS JUST SOOOO COOOOOL?!!!
Okay! Put up both your hands, high — and HIGH TEN! (I just virtually smacked them with mine 🙂 )

Paul Westhaver
Reply to  Janice Moore
June 23, 2016 10:20 pm

HIGH TEN.

Another Ian
Reply to  Janice Moore
June 24, 2016 1:40 am

Janice
Along those lines
Have you read Bernard Cornwell’s Sharpe series?

Janice Moore
Reply to  Janice Moore
June 24, 2016 7:48 am

Hi, Another Ian,
Thanks for asking, no. I just looked them up on Amazon and they look terrific — for someone who likes a lot of battles and military operations, etc.. While I enjoy historical novels, and Cornwell’s appear to be of the best sort, I don’t enjoy reading about military campaigns, etc.. Just boring to me (tedious or something) — just the way my brain is wired. I am VERY pro-military, though.
Thanks for sharing!
Janice

Reply to  Janice Moore
June 23, 2016 9:34 pm

Janice , one of the main reasons I left many years ago was this. I saw it coming ever since the EU allowed the immigration of “guest workers” I wish I would have bet money on it. But at least praying worked for us!!

Janice Moore
Reply to  asybot
June 23, 2016 9:46 pm

A Sybot…. hello, dear Dutchman (at heart). You and Mrs. Sybot were very wise, indeed. Way-to-go, getting out when you did. Oh, yes, yes. Prayer works. Sometimes, God says, “No,” or “Wait” (a looooooooooooooooooooooooooong time (sigh)), but! Sometimes….. God — says, “Yes!!!
Signed: Your WUWT pal — JANICE!
#(:))

John Harmsworth
Reply to  Janice Moore
June 23, 2016 10:14 pm

The French Socialist leaches are at the heart of it. It is therefore rotten.

Gabro
Reply to  Janice Moore
June 23, 2016 10:43 pm

I could do without George III and the anti-American sequences.

Reply to  Janice Moore
June 23, 2016 11:11 pm

Well said Janice. We WON! Rule, Britannia indeed 🙂
(yes, I’m a Brit, but not one who believes in divine intervention!)

Janice Moore
Reply to  Luc Ozade (@Luc_Ozade)
June 23, 2016 11:14 pm

Thank you, Luc! Stand tall and proud!
(and, I will pray that someday you do… 🙂 )

Mr Green Genes
Reply to  Janice Moore
June 24, 2016 1:10 am

Please!!!
Enough of your god-bothering nonsense. This has nothing to do with anyone’s imaginary friend and everything to do with the British people taking an entirely rational decision.
– Yours, “pompous” hee hee

ClimateOtter
Reply to  Mr Green Genes
June 24, 2016 3:05 am

Yes, the EU is certainly an imaginary ‘friend’!

Janice Moore
Reply to  Mr Green Genes
June 24, 2016 7:44 am

Dear Mr. Green Genes,
People, even the British, often act irrationally, in spite of all the best efforts of those who try to show them the facts. Therefore…. . Well, anyway — hurrah for the UK! 🙂
btw: Kind if interesting, isn’t it? Rationally speaking, I mean…. how MANY of us over the decades and centuries, all over the world…. have the exact same “imaginary friend.” Something to think about, eh, Mister?
#(:))
Your Ally for Truth in Science,
Janice

brians356
Reply to  Mr Green Genes
June 24, 2016 1:32 pm

“In God We Trust.” That has a familiar ring to it. I wonder who thought of it?
You know, Green Genes, far more true scientists than you could bear to know about are Christians.

feliksch
Reply to  Janice Moore
June 24, 2016 1:50 am

A union can be something very good. The EU bureaucrats and their God-denying, money-seeking enablers have taken many wrong turns, however, and no improvement of their judgement capabilities is in sight.

george e. smith
Reply to  Janice Moore
June 24, 2016 7:40 am

You GO Girl ! with all my best wishes.
G

Janice Moore
Reply to  george e. smith
June 24, 2016 7:53 am

Dear George,
You probably meant that for the UK as “Liberty” is often personified as a woman, but, just in case that was directed at me, not too far above you…, thank you (if I’m not mistaken — blush). I’m so glad to know that you and I are still “friends” after our little verbal fisticuffs. That old shoe you threw at me didn’t hurt my elbow, much, but it hurt my heart. Glad all is well!
Your Ally for Truth,
Janice

LdB
June 23, 2016 8:27 pm

Just over 61% vote counted and leave at 51.4% that is going to a bit hard to make up and so his 0% probability would be correct if you are a pessimist. The optimist is waiting for big swing of last minute votes because all the remain voters were working 🙂

John Harmsworth
Reply to  LdB
June 23, 2016 10:17 pm

If only he could predict climate half as well.

climatereason
Editor
June 23, 2016 8:27 pm

Leave currently have 51 .3 percent of the vote but there are still many millions of votes to count. It is entirely unexpected as all the pundits had been predicting a remain vote. There is panic in downing street and Brussels.
Tonyb

Marcus
Reply to  climatereason
June 23, 2016 8:29 pm

Leave is up 700.000

LdB
Reply to  climatereason
June 23, 2016 8:42 pm

Yes saw that. There is a better live link it shows the time stamp of the number
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/
The update at 4.34 London time puts the count at 77% and the number worsening 51.7%.

Gabro
Reply to  climatereason
June 23, 2016 8:46 pm

Rule, Britannia!
Britons never, ever will be slaves!
Congrats to England and Wales, overriding Northern Ireland and the Scottish National Socialist Party.

commieBob
Reply to  Gabro
June 23, 2016 10:49 pm

Britons never, ever will be slaves!

From a very long time ago, I remember something like:

Rule Britannia
Britannia rules the waves
She never has any trouble with her bacon and eggs.

The English guys who sang the above lyrics seemed to think they were profound. Clearly, because I was from the wrong side of the Atlantic, I didn’t understand.

Gabro
Reply to  Gabro
June 23, 2016 10:52 pm

That’s the inscrutable East for you!
Their rugby songs are a lot nastier yet easier to grasp.

John Harmsworth
Reply to  climatereason
June 23, 2016 10:23 pm

Much too early for panic for the remain side. Britain will now bargain with a stronger hand. The socialist basket case of Scotland may leave the U.K. to go back to the EU- if the EU wants another Greece!

Margaret Smith
June 23, 2016 8:54 pm

I’ve been watching TV all night and although there are still more results to come, we are nearly there.
Wonderful!
Cameron’s dream of the EU Presidency has now evaporated.

simple-touriste
Reply to  Margaret Smith
June 23, 2016 9:10 pm

“Cameron’s dream of the EU Presidency has now evaporated.”
Why?

Felflames
Reply to  simple-touriste
June 24, 2016 2:01 am

Can’t be president of a club if you are not a member.

simple-touriste
Reply to  Felflames
June 24, 2016 7:34 am

“if you are not a member”
What? GB isn’t a member?

simple-touriste
Reply to  Margaret Smith
June 25, 2016 1:28 pm

“Cameron’s dream of the EU Presidency has now evaporated”
Cameron or someone else, at that point I can’t imagine a EU Presidency other than GB.
The other 27 countries left “Europe”, and their nations. No nation wants to hurt itself to hurt GB. Our heads of states look pretty much likes administrators authorized by Germany.
This isn’t going to go well.

June 23, 2016 8:58 pm

Currently results are 52% to 48% in favour of leave. For a remain result the remaining 66 out of the total 382 voting areas they need to increase from 48% to 56%. That would require some pretty wierd remaining areas. If I were a betting man we are out of the EU. Yahoo!!!

climatereason
Editor
Reply to  son of mulder
June 23, 2016 9:05 pm

I never thought I would see this day. Whoo,!
Tonyb

June 23, 2016 8:59 pm

I think it will be a good thing overall if they leave the EU. There will still be NATO. I think the Brits want to be free…

ozspeaksup
Reply to  J. Philip Peterson
June 24, 2016 3:57 am

you say that as if NATO is a good thing?

simple-touriste
Reply to  ozspeaksup
June 25, 2016 2:17 pm

NATO is the excuse of Europe countries.
Before Airbus 400M, French army was even depending on Russia transports for delivery of its materials!

charles nelson
June 23, 2016 9:04 pm

On more than one occasion now the British have had to rescue Europe from itself.
If the Brexit happens it certainly marks the end of the current European Project in its present form.
I feel quite proud that the ordinary people had the guts to stand up in the face of a filthy media campaign of slurs and denigration. Anyone, however mild their disposition, who even hinted that they might be discontented with the status quo was immediately labeled a racist/fascist. That tactic looks like it has failed.

climatereason
Editor
Reply to  charles nelson
June 23, 2016 9:07 pm

Ultimately we didn’t like being bullied. Scary and exciting times.
Tonyb

Reply to  climatereason
June 23, 2016 9:19 pm

And we wanted democratic control of our government with leaders we can kick out when they screw up.

Tom Harley
Reply to  climatereason
June 23, 2016 10:52 pm

Now, BrexitUN, AusexitUN and get rid of all the socialist leeches.

emsnews
Reply to  climatereason
June 24, 2016 4:56 am

EU Zombies! Movie coming soon.

simple-touriste
Reply to  charles nelson
June 23, 2016 9:17 pm

Actually the European dream was dead, cold and rotten already (it was still moving though).
The pro-EU managed to provide additional evidence that EU isn’t a peace project but an imperialist project, as the brexiter were arguing.
Obumer helped the brexit a lot.

Reply to  simple-touriste
June 23, 2016 9:58 pm

@ simple touriste. + many!

Oldseadog
Reply to  simple-touriste
June 24, 2016 2:10 am

Cold and rotten but still moving, the movement caused by the maggots eating the carcase.
(Sorry to put you off your breakfast.)

george e. smith
Reply to  simple-touriste
June 24, 2016 7:48 am

The absolute cheek of a foreign dictator, trying to influence the lives of a would-be-free people !
But that excuse that we have for a CIC, knows no bounds either of diplomacy, or of common sense.
While he tries to further enslave the Americans; the Motherland decides that freedom and National Sovereignty is best for them.
G

JohnKnight
Reply to  simple-touriste
June 24, 2016 6:55 pm

simple-touriste . .
That was sweet indeed . . he’s “helping” Ms. Clinton now, lucky lassy ; )

simple-touriste
Reply to  charles nelson
June 25, 2016 3:07 pm

“Anyone, however mild their disposition, who even hinted that they might be discontented with the status quo was immediately labeled a racist/fascist. That tactic looks like it has failed”
I have a theory that these schemes (you must be stupid to vote “no”, you must be racist, you must be xenophobic, only uneducated people vote “no”) produce the opposite result or at least reliably promote the opposite views.
But this time a tipping point was passed: the “you didn’t kill Jo Cox, but”.
“but” means you basically did it (in a “did not do it” kind of way, or something).

markl
Reply to  simple-touriste
June 25, 2016 3:56 pm

simple-touriste commented: “….I have a theory that these schemes (you must be stupid to vote “no”, you must be racist, you must be xenophobic, only uneducated people….”
add to that anti science, want to pollute the earth, conspiracy theorist, and you have the same mentality coming from the CAGW crowd. In both cases the narrative is supported by the MSM. Look at the state of politics in the US now. The two candidates for arguably the most important position in the world are doing the same thing.

simple-touriste
Reply to  markl
June 25, 2016 7:01 pm

Another propaganda/credibility tipping point passed: the French medias are parroting the idea that Nigel Farage just admitted that a key brexit promise was an impossibility. (Without mentioning which promise.)
The “promise” is the reallocation of Europe money to NHS, and it was a proposition “let’s …”. Clearly there was never a promise “if you vote brexit that money will automatically go to the NHS, by law”. This would have been patently absurd. The referendum never was about raising money for the NHS.
The only clear “promise” was that such money would be under the absolute control of the GB, not Europe, and that NHS wasn’t barred as a recipient (just like offering gold watches to traders in the City to help with the brexit trauma wasn’t barred).
At that point I am not sure if the journalists just don’t get modality (there is no guaranty that P vs. P is an impossibility by law or by nature) or if they are dishonest. I guess both is an option.

catcracking
June 23, 2016 9:06 pm

All the British media has called the vote, Leave has won.

Janice Moore
Reply to  catcracking
June 23, 2016 9:32 pm

HIP, HIP, HOORAY!!!!!!!!

If I wasn’t in a hotel I would be SCREAMING FOR JOY!!!!

Annie
Reply to  Janice Moore
June 23, 2016 10:49 pm

I feel like dancing! Yippee!!!

Janice Moore
Reply to  Janice Moore
June 23, 2016 11:08 pm

Me, too, Annie! Who cares if we have no partner (maybe you do, I do not)!!!
THIS tune will do nicely!
(I was thinking about posting this earlier, and NOW I have my opening 🙂 )

Yeeeeeeeee — haw!
#(:))

Annie
Reply to  Janice Moore
June 24, 2016 5:10 am

That’s great fun Janice, thank you! Very suitable as I live in Australia although I am English. 🙂

brians356
Reply to  Janice Moore
June 24, 2016 1:34 pm

Go ahead and scream, they’ll just assume you’re enjoying something else.

Steve Oregon
June 23, 2016 9:14 pm

Can they keep their toasters and tea kettles now?
The left wing, everywhere, is so damned dumb and dishonest.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/10/eu-to-launch-kettle-and-toaster-crackdown-after-brexit-vote2/
EU to launch kettle and toaster crackdown after Brexit vote

joelobryan
Reply to  Steve Oregon
June 23, 2016 11:38 pm

Not to mention their Hoovers.

TG
Reply to  joelobryan
June 24, 2016 4:05 am

I have the fastest energy goblining toaster, electric kettle, vacuum cleaner and a ripping Internet router etc….etc…….etc….. and I love them!!!
If we vote remain we will be powerless to prevent an avalanche of EU energy efficacy regulation that Brussels is delaying until after the referendum – Junker.

Reply to  Steve Oregon
June 24, 2016 5:10 am

And a heart-felt “Oooh-rah” for Great Britain…. but, to quote the great Benjamin Franklin, “If you can keep it.” The Left will never, ever, ever give up. They’ll drag their feet, whine about how it was only a 2% edge, throw all sorts of bricks on the rails for disentanglement and try to find a way to drag the British people back into the EU one way or another. Also, don’t discount the fury that Merkel will bring — she has sworn a blood-oath to make Europe not only Socialist but “multi-cultural” and she will do all that she can (with the economic might of Germany behind her) to punish the British. Never underestimate the Hun. So, while I’m delighted by the vote, I see a lot of stormy weather ahead for the UK.

Reply to  Bryan R. Johnson
June 24, 2016 6:04 am

Does that mean not selling german made windmills to great britain. Oh the horror. Congrats to brexit, thanks for pissing off obummer

Reply to  Bryan R. Johnson
June 24, 2016 6:19 am

JP – and a +10 to you. Our Dear Leader already stuck his putter into the vote a few days ago. Who know what tantrum he’ll pitch now that the British people have made their will known.

simple-touriste
Reply to  Bryan R. Johnson
June 24, 2016 8:01 am

It isn’t the end, but I think it’s the beginning of the end.
For the idea that EU is the European dream, it’s the end period. The “I love you and we must be together and if you leave me I will make your life hell” isn’t a turn-on. Jean-Claude Juncker absolutely must leave.

ferdberple
Reply to  Bryan R. Johnson
June 24, 2016 10:49 am

how it was only a 2% edge
============
52-48 = 4%
4%/48% = 8.3%
Nearly 10% more people voted leave than remain..

Reply to  ferdberple
June 24, 2016 11:06 am

I was trying to channel the arithmetically challenged: 52% — the last figures I saw when I wrote my comment — is just 2% over the majority (50%). The Left will use anything to twist truth. Would that the actual figures had been much, much more dramatic (80/20) but we play the hand we’re dealt.

ferdberple
Reply to  Bryan R. Johnson
June 24, 2016 10:57 am

she will do all that she can (with the economic might of Germany behind her) to punish the British.
====================
she has her army of gropers ready to march on the UK at a moments notice. though it could be that the german women will not feel so kindly towards Merkel at the next election. not every fräulein enjoys the cold hands of a stranger up their backside.

ossqss
June 23, 2016 9:20 pm

The hope for real change has started!
BTW, market chaos tomorrow. Hold on!

ossqss
Reply to  ossqss
June 23, 2016 9:29 pm

Sam The First
June 23, 2016 9:24 pm

Phew! The British people – the chippy Scots an the metropolitan elites in Lodnon apart – have saved us from the grasping fist of Brussels.
We Brits dislike being talked down to or ordered about. Nelson would be proud of us this morning.
Now maybe we can keep the lights on!

LdB
June 23, 2016 9:27 pm

You can bet the result sent shockwaves thru lots of green groups with whats likely to happen if politicians introduce radical climate change policy post Paris agreement. You can’t push political agendas without strong and continual support from the masses.

simple-touriste
Reply to  LdB
June 24, 2016 7:53 am

Also you can’t have an epistemology that is so much variable and inconsistent: The Pulse/Jo Cox.
Yes, I believe it’s an historical defeat of hysterical anti-epistemology.

richardX
June 23, 2016 9:30 pm

Will the vote be like climate science, I wonder, where the results are “adjusted” to obtain the “correct” results?

Mario J Lento
June 23, 2016 9:32 pm

It’s pretty much official ! Brexit wins. Happy Independence Day Britain. By by EU.

ossqss
Reply to  Mario J Lento
June 23, 2016 9:44 pm

Janus
Reply to  Mario J Lento
June 23, 2016 10:18 pm

Can Canada become a British colony again? Please?
(We can give you our prime minister as a clown for Comical relieve, when the going gets tough in the parliament )

ferdberple
Reply to  Janus
June 24, 2016 11:01 am
markl
June 23, 2016 9:35 pm

Sovereignty wins! Congratulations.

Janice Moore
June 23, 2016 9:36 pm


GO, UNITED KINGDOM!!!!
Wheeeeeeeeeeeeee! I am — so HAPPY!
🙂
🙂
🙂
***.***.***.

Peter S
Reply to  Janice Moore
June 23, 2016 9:50 pm

I think they just reclaimed the right to be called Great Britain again. 🙂
I am just a bit sad that I had been living overseas too long to vote myself.

Janice Moore
Reply to  Peter S
June 23, 2016 9:56 pm

Great Britain, indeed, Peter! 🙂
Isn’t it just so cool how happy all the liberty loving people of the WORLD are?! 🙂
I’ve never set foot in the UK, and I am beaming. And I have NO doubt that thousands of Brits (including my great-great-great….. grand-ancestors) are leaning over the balconey of heaven and cheering — Hurrah!!!
🙂

saveenergy
Reply to  Peter S
June 24, 2016 12:34 am

No: we’ve just decided to be a 3rd world country .
– Sterling has fallen to its lowest level since 1985 – marking a sharper dive even than on Black Wednesday in 1992.
Britain was only ‘Great’ when it used slave labour & used gunboat diplomacy to plunder other peoples resources
Read history.
Strange how people who –
‘never set foot in the UK’
think they know whats best for us.

afonzarelli
Reply to  Peter S
June 24, 2016 12:57 am

Do you care to elaborate on why the obvious ain’t so obvious before bashing all the peops on the other side of the pond, saveenergy?

Another Ian
Reply to  Peter S
June 24, 2016 1:47 am

Saveenergy must have voted remain?

1saveenergy
Reply to  Peter S
June 24, 2016 2:22 am

afonzarelli
I’m not “bashing all the peops on the other side of the pond” …only the armchair ex-sperts with lots of opinions & little knowledge.
If you think separation is such a good thing, fragment the USA… then let each state take on China & Russia independently see how well you get on.
Winston Churchill ‘United States of Europe’ in his own words
at 1.30min https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln4SRnt4VE0
Study history

Owen in GA
Reply to  Peter S
June 24, 2016 8:51 am

1saveenergy,
And yet when the first European trade union was formed for Coal and Steel in the 50s, Churchill was dead-set against Britain tying itself to that nonsense. He stated that Britain should be “with Europe, not in it”. Of course if you go back to his statements in 1930, he was all for a united Europe then…hmmm, I wonder what might have happened to change his mind in the intervening 20 years, something there, but I doubt you would put your finger on it!
Selective study of history is much like the selective study of climate…you can draw whatever conclusion you want then go find the data to back your preconceived conclusion.

Auto
Reply to  Peter S
June 24, 2016 1:33 pm

Came across this today.
Anglo-centric, certainly!

But humorous . .
Auto

Janice Moore
Reply to  Peter S
June 24, 2016 2:34 pm

Auto,
Thank you for that. You made me smile. Yes, yes, veddy hyoomohduss. Lol, and the poor Canadians get insulted in the usual way …. not even mentioned!
You American Ally for Science Realism,
Janice
#(:))
***.***.***.***.***

afonzarelli
Reply to  Peter S
June 24, 2016 3:04 pm

Very well, just wanted to know where you were coming from. (didn’t quite have you sussed ol’ chap) Bash away… ☺

catweazle666
Reply to  Peter S
June 24, 2016 5:48 pm

saveenergy: “No: we’ve just decided to be a 3rd world country .”
Utter, absolute, 100.00% 24 carat bollocks.
You really haven’t the first clue.

JohnKnight
Reply to  Peter S
June 24, 2016 7:28 pm

“If you think separation is such a good thing, fragment the USA…”
It was born one country, and now we must overcome the SJW in Chief and all his cannibalistic spawn, to keep it from disintegrating . . you flaming hypocrite.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Peter S
June 25, 2016 12:48 am

“saveenergy June 24, 2016 at 12:34 am
No: we’ve just decided to be a 3rd world country .”
Really? Too funny. So the UK needed the EU to be not 3rd world? Really? Seriously? Given the fact that Britain brought wealth and industry to the world.
However, you have politicians, voted for by the people, in the UK pursuing the policies of the Climate Change Act which will see the UK descend into “3rd world” status, eventually. As long as their carbon emissions meet targets.
Italy today has 1.3 persons collecting state welfare for every 1 person working and paying taxes. The UK is not far behind, 20-30 years. Almost all other countries in the EU zone are in the same boat. With industry, jobs and emissions being exported to Asia, how do you think that will work out in 20-30 years?
Former 1st world countries becoming 3rd world countries.

Mario J Lento
June 23, 2016 9:42 pm

It’s pretty much official ! Brexit wins. Happy Independence Day Britain. Bye Bye EU. I have a lot of gold stocks that have been stagnating for the past few years. I held on expecting The world economy to hit some lows under the liberal leadership. The debt and 0 and negative interest rates will have had their toll on everything normal. Maybe I will wake up many tens of thousand ahead of the game tomorrow morning.

Menicholas
Reply to  Mario J Lento
June 23, 2016 10:25 pm

It is official…vote tally passed the mark about ten minutes ago.

E.M.Smith
Editor
Reply to  Mario J Lento
June 26, 2016 2:40 pm

Congratulations on your gold win!

LdB
June 23, 2016 9:45 pm

Are they still saying Cameron will resign or be pushed?
There would be a few nervous politicians I imagine with lots of recriminations.

Reply to  LdB
June 23, 2016 10:11 pm

If the Brits are going to sit around for 2 years ( Article 50, French and German elections) you can bet your bottom dollar that the pressure on the British economy. (Forces like the US, Germany, French and so on ) will be enormous. And I will not be surprised if, to begin with it is going to be very hard for England. I think they should get out asap! I think Northern Ireland and Scotland will understand eventually they will be better of as a UNITED KINGDOM!

Annie
Reply to  asybot
June 24, 2016 5:15 am

Germany had better remember how many cars and white goods it exports to Great Britain before getting too stroppy with us. I’ll have a personal boycott of German goods if they start being unduly awkward.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  asybot
June 25, 2016 12:51 am

“Annie June 24, 2016 at 5:15 am”
I think you will find the Mk6 VW Golf is made/assembled in South Africa.

Peter S
June 23, 2016 9:46 pm

Interestingly enough, the Labour/left wing commentators are still blaming the immigration issue and not “getting the message across” for the vote.
They just don’t get that the vote was always about democracy, pure and simple.
The choice was a trade between a level of comfort financially that came with a form of slavery to the un-elected bureaucracy of the EU or democratic freedom.
Yes, there is going to be a cost to that freedom, but the price is worth it.
Second message is don’t believe the polls. The polls are not going to be accurate because the liberal media tends to be so intolerant that they label those that disagree as intolerant, evil, stupid or simply bad, and in doing so they drive many into the position of being secret supporters.

Onyabike
Reply to  Peter S
June 23, 2016 10:00 pm

Winston Churchill had some advice for the left-wingers: “However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results” Good on ya, Poms – welcome back to the commonwealth – we missed ya!

1saveenergy
Reply to  Onyabike
June 24, 2016 2:07 am

Winston Churchill ‘United States of Europe’ in his own words
at 1.30min https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln4SRnt4VE0
Study history

Annie
Reply to  Onyabike
June 24, 2016 5:16 am

Thanks Onyabike.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Onyabike
June 24, 2016 8:19 am

Iffen Winston Churchill stated ‘United States of Europe’ then he was surely referring to all the European countries UNITED against Germany and its Dictatorial government.
The Nazi regime of the 30’s and early 40’s is akin to what the EU regime has been trying to establish in the 2000’s.

Owen in GA
Reply to  Onyabike
June 24, 2016 9:05 am

1saveenergy,
There you go again quoting the 1930 Churchill document again. By 1950, he had reversed himself. His concept for the UN for instance had representation by region and he put Great Britain and the Commonwealth as a separate representation area from Europe. WWII convinced him that the cultural and value differences between Britain and the the rest of Europe were too great to overcome. He came to see Europe as a close partner due to proximity, but not as a governing block.
Selective study of history is like selective study of climate science – it is easy to find the data you need to support your preconceived conclusion, it just requires ignoring all evidence to the contrary.

1saveenergy
Reply to  Onyabike
June 24, 2016 4:30 pm

Owen in GA
Not 1930s
Sir Winston Churchill called for the creation of a ‘United States of Europe’ in his famous 1946 Zurich speech.
http://www.churchill-society-london.org.uk/WSCHague.html
Churchill presided the first European Federal Congress at the Hague in 1948.
http://www.cvce.eu/en/education/unit-content/-/unit/7b137b71-6010-4621-83b4-b0ca06a6b2cb/4b311dc0-cbe6-421d-9f9a-3bc8b1b155f6
read history & check facts

LdB
Reply to  Peter S
June 23, 2016 10:05 pm

Yes I agree they are so convinced in their own self righteousness they don’t see any of that … the cause is worth any cost. You see the same thing with the CAGW crowd labelling people deniers etc.

Hugs
Reply to  Peter S
June 23, 2016 11:49 pm

Yes, they DID get the message across.
It is all about democracy.

Evan Jones
Editor
Reply to  Hugs
June 24, 2016 3:38 pm

Yes.

Menicholas
June 23, 2016 9:50 pm

I cashed out of every stock in every account last week, even my 401k.
It was looking dumb for a few minutes there this week, but now i am so damn happy?
I will buy back in at much lower levels.
Stocks and energy selling of big time around the world at this moment, gold up nearly 8%.
Could be more now…it is moving so fast.
Stock market here in US will be brutal on Friday!
Yay!
Called one right.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Menicholas
June 24, 2016 8:04 am

Yup, bargains galore. Picked up a couple myself today, after the markets stabilzed a bit.

Menicholas
Reply to  Tom in Florida
June 24, 2016 8:12 am

Could be a dead cat bounce. I expect a big sell off at the end of the day.
I’m going to wait and pick my spot I expect the market will be down a lot more than this within a few weeks.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Tom in Florida
June 24, 2016 9:40 am

Perhaps but as a swing trader I looked for short term bargains that I have had on my watch list and have been waiting for the vote to see where they ended up. As you probably know, fear and greed move the market and fear is in charge right now. I suspect as the details of how there are two years to implement the withdrawal from the EU start to emerge the fear will subside.

Reply to  Tom in Florida
June 24, 2016 2:41 pm

@ Menicholas…note that there was no big sell off. I think the manipulators trying to push the market down will not be able to get the momentum they want. The media was flooded with the scare stories of how harmful the consequences of Leave would be, and that Remain was a fairly sure prospect. Now that their forecasts have been proven wrong I think that people will realize that the gloomy market forecasts are also wrong.
Then in the last several days, there were some voices of reason giving their reasons why the alarmists position was overblown. Still the market was up high again, anyway. It was likely that a downward shift would take place, and the Leave decision was a great time for the bears to make a move.

dp
June 23, 2016 9:53 pm

It’s not who votes and how that counts – it’s who counts the votes and how that is important.

AJB
June 23, 2016 9:59 pm

Sorted!

Janice Moore
June 23, 2016 10:00 pm

Now, how am I going to get to sleep???!!!
Ha! I know… I’ll just pull out my copy of “Basic Statistics” and start to…… (yawn)…….read….zzzz.

wws
June 23, 2016 10:03 pm

I love to see all the bettors get up-ended! Every election we hear, “Oh, look at the betting markets, they always get it right! The smart money is always right!” Well tonight all of the so-called “smart money” was WRONG and turns out to be a bunch of chumps who just lost huge amounts of money because they bet on what they WISHED was true, not on any actual knowledge.
So in the future, whenever any one says “well, look at what the smart money is doing” just point out that it may turn out to all be very stupid money, indeed.

Eugene WR Gallun
Reply to  wws
June 23, 2016 10:22 pm

WWS
I have a different opinion. The betting money was close and the left got some backers to bet on REMAIN to shift the odds in REMAIN’s favor. The odds were shifted by a few big bets. (But small money when you consider what propaganda costs.)
When people believe the betters always get it right then it was cheap propaganda to shift those odds in favor of REMAIN. That the odds were suddenly in REMAIN’s favor was all over the news. So for peanuts REMAIN got a huge propaganda boost. And the left had about an even money chance of actually making money!
Want to bet that was not what went on?
Eugene WR Gallun

AJB
Reply to  wws
June 23, 2016 10:28 pm
AJB
Reply to  AJB
June 24, 2016 1:07 am
Eugene WR Gallun
June 23, 2016 10:04 pm

Living in Oregon I ran across a copy of The New York Times in a waiting room. I never read it now but picked it up. Below the fold on the front page was a news story?? (or more accurately an opinion piece — I don’t believe The New York Times puts much hard news on its front page nowadays) that stated IN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH that this whole BREXIT thing was all Cameron’s fault BECAUSE HE ALLOWED THE PEOPLE TO VOTE ON IT!!
On its front page The New York Times was lamenting allowing people to vote! Damn! You can’t let them vote because they might do what the liberal elites don’t want!
So The New York Times says — No guns and no voting. That’s the world The New York Times wants for Americans.
Eugene WR Gallun

Gabro
Reply to  Eugene WR Gallun
June 23, 2016 10:38 pm

Thank UKIP. Cameron had to promise to hold a referendum, or the Tories would have lost due to defections to the UK Independence Party.

TinyCO2
June 23, 2016 10:04 pm

Well spin my nipple nuts and send me to Alaska! We’re free!

climatereason
Editor
Reply to  TinyCO2
June 23, 2016 10:26 pm

At ten o’clock ladt night remain were very confident. It’s been a long night but what a great dawn
Tonyb

TinyCO2
Reply to  climatereason
June 23, 2016 10:39 pm

After the exit polls I muttered that they might be wrong and went to sleep. This morning I reluctantly turned the TV on with blurry eyes and then barely believed them. The vote would have been significantly higher if the establishment hadn’t thrown everything at us including threats, insults and moral blackmail.

simple-touriste
Reply to  climatereason
June 23, 2016 11:03 pm

If the globalist mafia knew a practical way to attach the dead body of Jo Cox to strings, and physically use it as a marionette, they would have done it, following Burns’ example:
The Simpsons Weekend At Burnsie’s
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/the-simpsons-weekend-at-burnsies/82282738/
@ 19:50

James Bull
June 23, 2016 10:12 pm

This was the one thing the bureaucrats didn’t want, the people getting their say on what has been going on in the EU.
Now we have to get a good deal and rebuild our once Great nation.
I have been hoping and praying this will bring about an improvement throughout the whole of the EU.
Maybe just maybe they will be able to bring in a set of accounts which actually show what happened to all the money collected!
James Bull

Paul Westhaver
June 23, 2016 10:15 pm

The end of the AGW movement is inside this.

Reply to  Paul Westhaver
June 23, 2016 10:19 pm

I sure hope so! This is great news. 🙂

Paul Westhaver
Reply to  A.D. Everard
June 23, 2016 10:31 pm

A population psyche that wants self rule certainly won’t like dictation from the UN or other large imposing organizations.. I don’t think it is just the EU…. It is the world.
The UN, by similarity, will take a kick in the head.

Reply to  A.D. Everard
June 24, 2016 12:09 am

Paul – you are sooooo right! What a fantastic day. Cheers, mate. 🙂

TG
June 23, 2016 10:18 pm

For a change the people have won a victory, this is a huge victory for most of readers who follow this wonderful website. The EU is toast and so are the warmist.

Menicholas
June 23, 2016 10:23 pm

I could not be happier.

Reply to  Menicholas
June 24, 2016 12:10 am

+1000

Gabro
June 23, 2016 10:30 pm

Upshot could be Northern Ireland joining the Republic. Dublin regime is no longer dominated by the Catholic Church, so there is less reason for Protestant majority Ulster to remain separate. Divorce is now legal in the Republic, and even abortion practically so.
Let Scotland go her own way. Once the oil runs out, the National Socialist regime there will beg to be let back into the Union. Scotland can’t sell enough scotch to support its creaky welfare state without fossil fuel revenues. It’s Venezuela of the North.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Gabro
June 24, 2016 5:34 am

That will never happen. As a former resident of the RI I can tell you NI, in particular The Orange Men, are, sadly, not the slightest bit interested in a unified Ireland.

Gabro
Reply to  Patrick MJD
June 24, 2016 9:38 am

Independence, then, or union with Scotland. But NI did like the open border and free trade with the Republic.

simple-touriste
Reply to  Gabro
June 24, 2016 10:56 pm

“even abortion practically so”
except when the mother’s life is a stake and she is going to die in horrible suffering?
Ireland is a disgusting country, shouldn’t even have been allowed in Europe.

Bob
June 23, 2016 10:31 pm

If the UK follows up on leaving the EU, some of the constituent members don’t want to leave, and may leave the UK. It will be the never ending story.

Gabro
Reply to  Bob
June 23, 2016 10:36 pm

Let NI and Scotland leave the Union. Best wishes. It’s not like the bad old days, when England couldn’t afford to have French or German allies on its land or sea borders. Now it doesn’t matter.
Do NI and Scotland really want to join the Eurozone? The Euro is probably toast. The errant provinces will soon beg, beg, to stay in the Sterling Zone. Like the Twilight Zone, only more concrete.

climatereason
Editor
Reply to  Gabro
June 23, 2016 10:50 pm

Why would Scotland and NI want to join a disintegrating Europe? How would they pay their fees? Lurking in the background is Greece whose financial problems have still not been resolved. The EU has become bloated and cannot absorb more countries. Any way, there are four other countries in the queue to join.why would either home nation be allowed to jump the queue?
Tonyb

Gabro
Reply to  Gabro
June 23, 2016 10:56 pm

It’s not a matter of being allowed. The EU would welcome new (former) members at this juncture, whether they could pay their fees or not. Scotland could, as long as the oil lasts.
But you’re right that other countries will follow UK’s lead, at least in holding referenda, if not in voting to bail on the rat-infested, leaky, sinking Commie ship.
The EFTA was OK, but when it became the EC and EU, with its own unaccountable, tyrannical regime and currency, but without a genuine popular government to back that currency, it was time to leave. Way overdue. At least Britain never joined the Eurozone.

LdB
Reply to  Bob
June 23, 2016 10:55 pm

If Scotland and Northern Ireland leave UK and join the EU on their own would that mean they would need the formal things like passports, customs, tariffs etc to enter or trade with the UK? It would definitely make the immigration issue interesting.

Gabro
Reply to  LdB
June 23, 2016 10:59 pm

My guess is that entering Scotland from England would be like going from the US to Canada, ie passport yes, but visa no. Used not to even require a passport.
I doubt that punitive tariffs are going to happen. Germany, which basically rules the EU, trades heavily with Britain. Angela dare not slap tariffs on British goods, since retaliation by London would cost her more than it would hurt Merrie Olde.

climatereason
Editor
Reply to  LdB
June 23, 2016 11:45 pm

Garbo
The eu has already got Monrovia Albania and Serbia lined up for membership. Why would they put another two economic minnows ( with due respect to two lovely countries)to the head of the queue?
Anyway They would be new countries not an old country rejoining so I can not see the prospective members mentioned putting up with the queue jumping
Tonyb

Griff
Reply to  LdB
June 24, 2016 4:25 am

If NI does NOT leave the UK, they will need passports etc to drive down the road into Eire – since the economies and even the road system are so inter dependent it will be a massive blow to NI.
going to the shop? don’t forget your passport now!

Patrick MJD
Reply to  LdB
June 24, 2016 5:30 am

“Griff June 24, 2016 at 4:25 am”
You are so uninformed. Not only do you know nothing about climate, you know nothing of the relationship between NI and RI. Too funny! Brexit will do nothing to that relationship as it was not a problem before the UK entered the EU and won’t be after the UK exits.

JJB MKI
Reply to  LdB
June 24, 2016 7:43 am

@LdB: It’s doubtful – the UK had open border agreements with Ireland predating the EU by decades, which remain in force. People would laugh at the thought of Scottish / English border guards / passport checks even with an independent Scotland. A lot depend on how far EU bureaucrats and political elites are prepared to go with a ‘scorched earth’ policy to save their jobs. If they have any common sense they will do this with carrots rather than sticks and do their best to preserve free trade. If they resort to sticks, they might scare the little people of Europe into keeping quiet in the short term, but in the long run they will overthrown by a European population as, if not more, disaffected than the UK’s (especially when they realise they have been forced to fund the goliath climate scam). Even if the EU imposes tarrifs, chances are the NI borders (and Scottish in the case of Independence) would become a popular smuggling route and the UK government would look the other way for smaller players – it would probably do the local economies a lot of good in any case..

Gabro
Reply to  LdB
June 24, 2016 9:36 am

The Swiss don’t have any trouble visiting France, Germany or Italy.

Gabro
Reply to  LdB
June 24, 2016 10:53 am

Tony,
Think you mean Montenegro rather than Monrovia.

catweazle666
Reply to  LdB
June 24, 2016 5:51 pm

Griff: “If NI does NOT leave the UK, they will need passports etc to drive down the road into Eire”
No they won’t.
You’re making stuff up again.

simple-touriste
Reply to  LdB
June 25, 2016 7:18 pm

A lot of French people work in Switzerland, where they get better salaries and are mostly the “poor workers” there.
They get health assurance in Switzerland but the our government insist on them paying for the Sécurité Sociale, which is an illegal demand (see French and European law).
France doesn’t have an “NHS” so people should be free to choose their social insurance (except for “family” obviously), but the government torments those who do. Lastly, the patently illegal SS courts have been suppressed.
The French government is desperate to hide the fact that without a “legal” security system like NHS, people in Europe are free to choose their social insurance. The European Commission is lying about that to help the French government.

indefatigablefrog
June 23, 2016 10:59 pm

The evidence and the experts quite definitely predicted a narrow lead for Bremain.
At 2a.m. all of that fell apart when the bookies odds hit even both ways and around that time the pound may have collapsed!! Hurrah.
I should perhaps have cut my exposure, but I was not concerned in the days leading up to the vote, since evidence and experts pointed to a 75-80% certainty that this would not occur.
Hurrah, for evidence and expertise. Which sometimes guides us to believe in things which are not the case.
However, by some intriguing coincidence, the Brexiteers themselves have been formerly (but informally) charged with tending to ignore “evidence” and “experts”.
On many matters including the climate change consensus. As observed here:
http://www.euractiv.com/section/uk-europe/news/brexit-campaign-leadership-dominated-by-climate-sceptics/

A Crooks
June 23, 2016 11:02 pm

“The biggest political revolution in Britain since the Peasants’ Revolt of 1381”

Gabro
Reply to  A Crooks
June 24, 2016 9:41 am

That overlooks beheading Charles I.

June 23, 2016 11:07 pm


Play it LOUD AND LONG.! Long live the QUEEN.

tadchem
Reply to  Max Hugoson
June 24, 2016 8:49 am

I suspect the Queen is trying to outlive her son Charles – for the sake of Her Country, of course. Should Charles predecease her, Andrew would be next in line.

vigilantfish
Reply to  tadchem
June 24, 2016 10:02 am

No, William would be next in line. Under the old inheritance laws, rule passed to the oldest son of the current ruler. Now rule passes to the oldest child, regardless of sex. Currently, William’s son George is third-in-line to the throne.

Reply to  tadchem
June 24, 2016 10:30 am

I pray for the health of (Canada’s) Queen every day. “Please Lord, let our Queen outlive her embarrassment of a son!”

Gabro
Reply to  tadchem
June 24, 2016 10:51 am

Vigilant,
About time the sexual succession issue was settled. While France had its Salic Law, the question was moot in England and later the UK. This led to at least two terrible civil wars that spring immediately to mind, ie The Anarchy and the Wars of the Roses, but maybe others.
Henry V felt that, contrary to the Salic Law, he was rightful claimant to the French throne, yet, hypocritically, his claim to the English crown was because his dad, the usurper Henry IV, was the son of John of Gaunt, the third surviving son of King Edward III, rather than through Philippa, daughter of Lionel of Antwerp, the second son, the line of the eldest son, Edward, the Black Prince (of Wales) having ended with the murder by Henry’s dad of his cousin Richard II.

Paul Westhaver
June 23, 2016 11:13 pm

Germany is now the singular economic leader in Europe and they are soft towards Russia.
Are we seeing the emergence of a new soviet empire?

Alan Kendall
June 23, 2016 11:28 pm

Reading the comments here you would believe the UK is (now was) a downtrodden state under the yoke of a malevolent EU, and that the more than 48% that voted to remain are all misguided, unpatriotic cretins, probably communists, warmistas or worse. Do you really believe this guff?
The leave side has won by a majority, but has swapped one set of problems for another. The skies are not necessarily bluer.

Scott
Reply to  Alan Kendall
June 23, 2016 11:31 pm

Google the “Brexit Movie”. You might just see the light…..

Scott
Reply to  Scott
June 23, 2016 11:33 pm

I’ll save you the effort…Watch this and see if you don’t think BREXIT was a great idea. It makes no mention of climate change or immigration btw…….

Scott
Reply to  Scott
June 23, 2016 11:36 pm

This is about Economics and Sovereignty
Published on May 12, 2016
BREXIT THE MOVIE is a feature-length documentary film to inspire as many people as possible to vote to LEAVE the EU in the June 23rd referendum.
BREXIT THE MOVIE spells out the danger of staying part of the EU. Is it safe to give a remote government beyond our control the power to make laws? Is it safe to tie ourselves to countries which are close to financial ruin, drifting towards scary political extremism, and suffering long-term, self-inflicted economic decline?
BREXIT THE MOVIE shows a side of the EU they don’t want us to see: the sprawling self-serving bureaucracy, the political cynicism, the lack of accountability, the perks, the waste, the cronyism, the corruption.
BREXIT THE MOVIE cuts through the patronizing intellectualism of the noble, higher goals of ‘Project Europe’, to reveal the self-interestedness of the political-bureaucratic class which runs and benefits from the EU.
BREXIT THE MOVIE highlights the danger of becoming a prisoner in an insular, backward-looking Fortress Europe. And it explores the exciting opportunities that open up to us when we look beyond the narrow confines of the EU.
BREXIT THE MOVIE looks to the future, arguing forcefully and persuasively that it is safer and wiser to live in a country which is free, independent, self-governing, confident and global.
For more information, visit http://www.brexitthemovie.com
Category
People & Blogs

Mario J Lento
Reply to  Alan Kendall
June 23, 2016 11:44 pm

Blue skies for many. Sovereign they are now
Free from the tyranny and rules of the EU. Free not to have their money taken for other people’s desire to take. I’d say blue skies.

Alan Kendall
Reply to  Mario J Lento
June 24, 2016 12:35 am

Dull skies for 48.1% of the voting population?

FerdiEgb
Reply to  Mario J Lento
June 24, 2016 2:01 am

While I don’t like to be commanded from Brussels either (to many EU laws don’t take into account the differences in population density and industrialization of the different countries), I don’t think that Britain will get that “free” from the EU as they wish.
If they want to stay a preferred trade partner of the rest of the EU, they will be forced to implement the same (environmental and economical) rules as they have today, but without any participation in the decision making. That is already the case for Norway and Switzerland…

Harry Passfield
Reply to  Mario J Lento
June 24, 2016 3:25 am

@Alan Kendall: No, not dull skies for the 48%; they will benefit equally from the gains of the majority. And because of that majority they will get their democratic voice back. None of us shall any longer be ruled by unelected bureaucrats in Brussels. That alone is a result.

Coach Springer
Reply to  Alan Kendall
June 24, 2016 4:47 am

You’re right. The sky is not necessarily bluer. it is extremely discouraging that 48% voted to Remain.

Scott
June 23, 2016 11:30 pm

Three Cheers for the UK! Western Civilization isn’t dead yet.

June 23, 2016 11:36 pm

A very big “Thank You” to all you non-Brits above who have posted your congratulations and good wishes for our future.
At last, after 40 years, I won’t feel so ashamed when I meet our Commonwealth cousins who rightly pointed out when we joined the Common Market (as the EU was originally known then) how we had stabbed them in the back. To you, my heartfelt apologies.
I am sooooooooooooo happy at this moment. And now I have to go and wake Mrs Ozade and give her the good news :)))))))

DaveF
Reply to  Luc Ozade (@Luc_Ozade)
June 24, 2016 2:33 am

Amen to that, Luc.

Fred of Greenslopes
Reply to  Luc Ozade (@Luc_Ozade)
June 24, 2016 2:57 am

Hopefully we (OZ and NZ) can regain our status as Britain’s Dairy, lost to the ‘Common Market’. We certainly can do with it in OZ.

don penman
June 23, 2016 11:45 pm

I voted for Britain to leave the European union and I think this is the first time I have been on the winning side on any election. I hope that our standard of living will not continue to be forced down by mass immigration from Europe and that we will no longer be forced to comply with European green energy targets, which makes energy more expensive for the ordinary person.

joelobryan
June 23, 2016 11:46 pm

Briton,
Your punishment for this imprudence will be more fingerwagging, “get to the back of the queue” scolding from the US president. We rebels have been putting up with that here in colonies for 7 1/2 yrs. Now you’ll get some more from the Worst Ever US President.
Im figuring the panic in WH will result in Obama letting our Attorney General off her leash and biting Crooked Hillary so as to replace her with Biden.

TA
Reply to  joelobryan
June 24, 2016 6:00 am

“Briton,
Your punishment for this imprudence will be more fingerwagging, “get to the back of the queue” scolding from the US president.”
Trump will return Great Britain to the front of the line in a little less than seven months from now. He said so today in his speech in Scotland.

Dodgy Geezer
June 23, 2016 11:52 pm

Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last!

Robin Hewitt
June 24, 2016 12:08 am

I don’t dare go on Facebook because all the family young ‘uns tended towards remain. But maybe if I stick to lower case I could get away with one small yeeee-haw

1saveenergy
June 24, 2016 12:39 am

1 – In the UK we get 8% of our electricity from the EU (5.1% from France & 2.8% from Holland )
National Grid says Spare electricity capacity, would be 2% this year, (Three years ago the margin was 17%) an additional 2% is available by turning off industry.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTZJXq8vCbzKs9rbR3pCWwrg52mW9RjPYULE39vXw3XDkvFDMzAKQ
UKs energy mix
euanmearns.com
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSbXzRDy3cuE31T-o9ngFGTSjoStLvML89jUknW8AxsVv8H3PKOPA
2 – 100% of our Nuclear is owned by France (along with our water & sewage) & ~ 80% of all our power generating capacity is foreign owned/controlled.
3 – Sterling has fallen to its lowest level since 1985 – marking a sharper dive even than on Black Wednesday in 1992.
4 – You do the maths…
This is mainly the result of Ed Millerbands 2008 ‘Green’ energy bill (in the Bliar government), nothing to do with the EU.
If we have a harsh 2016/17 winter, people will pay dearly for that decision…with their lives.
The only good thing to be gained from Brexit –
It will be “massively damaging” to the UK’s crazy renewables sector…according to Energy and Climate Change Minister Lord Bourne

Reply to  1saveenergy
June 24, 2016 9:40 am

“You do the maths”
Heh.
Se what being in the EU did?
It sapped GB of vital resources and capabilities.

DredNicolson
Reply to  1saveenergy
June 24, 2016 3:26 pm

Sunk-cost fallacy much? Would’ve been better to get out decades ago when the creeping socialist tentacles from Brussels hadn’t yet crossed the channel, but better late than never.
If Britain can ax the Green nonsense and fire those mothballed coal plants back up, energy won’t be a problem, and the country will be in a stronger position to unplug itself from the EU’s lotus-eating dependency machine.

simple-touriste
Reply to  1saveenergy
June 24, 2016 11:10 pm

“100% of our Nuclear is owned by France”
100% WRONG
EDF is NOT “France”. France doesn’t own nuclear power plants.

1saveenergy
Reply to  simple-touriste
June 25, 2016 3:07 pm

100% British nuclear is owned by EDF…
84% of EDF is owned the French state.
EDF – Électricité de France S.A. is a French electric utility company, 84% owned by the French state.
Founded: April 8, 1946, Paris, France
“The company, which is 84-per cent state owned “
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/8cdd1d32-3075-11e5-91ac-a5e17d9b4cff.html#axzz4Cd9Yptkl
http://m.fin24.com/fin24/economy/france-finalising-uk-nuclear-plant-deal-minister-20160417

simple-touriste
Reply to  simple-touriste
June 25, 2016 7:08 pm

EDF could be 100% owned by the French State, it still wouldn’t be France.
EDF is EDF and there are still laws in France!

Barry Sheridan
June 24, 2016 12:46 am

Well we finally plucked up the courage and voted to leave the anti-democratic European Union. With any luck this whole thing will unravel and mankind can once more move forward, rather than stagnating and trying to return to the 18th-century. With it will go I hope with my blessing all of the politically correct claptrap that is done so much to contaminate social dialogue over the last few decades. Perhaps to we will see less of the anti-white anti-male campaigning that has done so much to harm relations between the sexes. Well done the people of Britain.

vigilantfish
Reply to  Barry Sheridan
June 24, 2016 10:04 am

Hear, hear!

Dodgy Geezer
June 24, 2016 12:47 am

Please note that the battle is not over yet.
A Cameron resignation is the next shot in the barrel to keep the UK in the EU.
The politics goes:
1 – Vote OUT.
2 – Government resigns
3 – General Election, fought with all parties having a manifesto to stay in, except UKIP
4 – Highly unlikely UKIP will win, so the general election will supersede the referendum…

rogerknights
Reply to  Dodgy Geezer
June 24, 2016 1:25 am

“3 – General Election, fought with all parties having a manifesto to stay in, except UKIP”
It’s unlikely the conservative party will decide to back “in.” If it does, it will split the party and nearly half of it will defect to UKIP.

AndyG55
Reply to  Dodgy Geezer
June 24, 2016 4:53 am

“A Cameron resignation is the next shot in the barrel ”
DONE !!!

Eliza
June 24, 2016 1:12 am

AGW is now oficially terminated. Trumpo will win in the USA the people have spoken and have had enough from small PC minorities. The greens are finished as is the EU. Europe will function much better with each country independent.

tobyglyn
Reply to  Eliza
June 24, 2016 1:18 am

If only it were so easy Eliza 🙁

Janus
Reply to  Eliza
June 24, 2016 5:04 am

Let’s hope so, let’s hope so…..

steve
June 24, 2016 1:51 am

Its a great day to be British.
Feel exhausted after staying up all night but absolutely elated.

Robert from oz
June 24, 2016 2:00 am

From where I’m sitting I would be shitting my pants if I was Hillary ?

rtj1211
June 24, 2016 2:07 am

One does wonder whether this pre-sages the downtrodden Americans from Main Street sticking 200 nukes up the backsides of all the US Establishment ‘experts’ in November??

markl
Reply to  rtj1211
June 24, 2016 4:45 pm

One can only hope so.

June 24, 2016 2:35 am

http://www.britannia.com/history/docs/kipling.html
‘You musn’t sell, delay, deny,
A freeman’s right or liberty.
It wakes the stubborn Englishry,
We saw ’em roused at Runnymede!
Good to see the blood of the stubborn Englishry still runs through their descendants’ veins.
Cold and wet here. But a GOOD day.

Cliff Claven
June 24, 2016 2:45 am

The University of East Anglia is Colonel Klink from Hogan’s Heroes – always confidently wrong. If you don’t know what is right, just do the opposite of what UEA advises and you will be good. This works for Brexit, climate, scientific inquiry, and social policy.

Ivor Ward
June 24, 2016 2:50 am

Out of 190 odd nations only 28 (soon 27) are in the EU. None of the English speaking nations are in the EU. None of the British Commonwealth nations are in the EU. Great Britain is the 5th largest economy in the world. The only EU Country above us is Germany. Greece,Italy, Portugal, Spain and France are in decline. India, China, the USA, who we are now able to trade with as we wish are in ascendance. We are a NATO country, the second largest contributor. We are in the G10 and G7.
What we need now is Churchillian Leadership to throw off the shackles of a corrupt despotic organisation that has increasingly relied on Soviet style diktats to suppress the Greeks, the Spanish and the Portuguese and establish an unelected Commisariat in Brussels and Strasbourg.
My only reservation is that we will not find such a leader. The current crop of Politicians look like the audience of the Wheel of Fortune.

Harry Passfield
Reply to  Ivor Ward
June 24, 2016 3:05 am

+10, Ivor. Well said.

Juan Slayton
Reply to  Ivor Ward
June 24, 2016 6:33 am

At my wife’s request, I have been a part of the Wheel of Fortune audience. Sir, I object to being compared to politicians!

Janice Moore
Reply to  dbstealey
June 24, 2016 8:24 am

LOVE IT. +1!

Johann Wundersamer
June 24, 2016 2:54 am

‘A British vote to leave might even trigger a soviet style unravelling of the entire EU – France, Holland and Italy are also preparing to hold referendums to leave the EU, if Britain votes to leave.’
The British do the problematic stuck building EU a great service – The normal conflict centralism / federalism .
The geographical construct within the exterior boundaries should be managed centrally.
But:
The circumstances of individual countries must be considered. And there can be no veto right for each State . This had to be shown the recalcitrant bureaucrats .
Well done, UK!

Harry Passfield
June 24, 2016 3:04 am

“Free at last, free at last, thank God almighty, free at last” Somebody [/s] once said that: it applies to our UK’s Independence Day!!

Harry Passfield
Reply to  Harry Passfield
June 24, 2016 3:09 am

(Sorry, Dodgy, I hadn’t seen you post the same up above. Great minds, eh?) 🙂

Janice Moore
Reply to  Harry Passfield
June 24, 2016 8:19 am

Hi, Harry Passfield,
Here is your fine quote’s author, Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. I Have a Dream (1963)

(youtube)
{2:44} …free at last, free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last!
Congratulations to you, over there in England!
Janice

Harry Passfield
Reply to  Harry Passfield
June 24, 2016 8:51 am

Thanks for the video, Janice. You must know I knew it was King, but part of the sarc in my post was that the “somebody once said that” – or – “somebody said that once” is homage to Dylan.

Janice Moore
Reply to  Harry Passfield
June 24, 2016 9:10 am

Dear Harry,
You’re welcome. No, I’m afraid I DID think you had momentarily forgotten. Ooops. I thought the ” /s” thing was a typo! Just did not get the sarc/Dylan allusion — at — all. Thanks for taking the time to explain.
Janice

Harry Passfield
Reply to  Harry Passfield
June 24, 2016 12:31 pm

Janice: I checked the lyric (Dylan). It just gets better:

Half of the people can be part right all of the time
Some of the people can be all right part of the time
But all of the people can’t be all right all of the time
I think Abraham Lincoln said that
“I’ll let you be in my dreams if I can be in yours”
I said that

Harry Passfield
Reply to  Harry Passfield
June 24, 2016 12:32 pm

“Talkin’ World War III Blues”

June 24, 2016 3:09 am

I believe that despite the bureaucratic problems of leaving, it is the best choice – for one reason.
When you get energy policy completely wrong like the EU has, almost nothing else that you do really matters.
Cheap abundant reliable energy is the lifeblood of society – it IS that simple.
When misinformed politicians fool with energy systems, innocent people suffer and die.

Janus100
Reply to  Allan MacRae
June 24, 2016 5:07 am

So true. …

Reply to  Allan MacRae
June 24, 2016 8:40 am

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/02/27/exxon-stands-up-to-the-green-bullies/comment-page-1/#comment-2154602
On Energy:
I have worked in the energy industry for much of my career.
When challenged on the global warming question by green fanatics, I explain that that fossil fuels keep their families from freezing and starving to death.
Cheap abundant reliable energy is the lifeblood of society – it IS that simple.
Furthermore, I suggest that recognition of this reality is an ethical and a professional obligation.
The following numbers are from the 2015 BP Statistical Review of World Energy, for the year 2014:
http://www.bp.com/content/dam/bp/pdf/energy-economics/statistical-review-2015/bp-statistical-review-of-world-energy-2015-primary-energy-section.pdf
Global Primary Energy Consumption by Fuel is 86% Fossil Fuel (Oil, Coal and Natural Gas),
4% Nuclear,
7% Hydro,
and 2% Renewables.
That 2% for Renewables is vastly exaggerated, and would be less than 1% if intermittent wind and solar power were not forced into the electrical grid ahead of cheaper and more reliable conventional power.
This is not news – we have known this energy reality for decades. As we published in 2002.
“The ultimate agenda of pro-Kyoto advocates is to eliminate fossil fuels, but this would result in a catastrophic shortfall in global energy supply – the wasteful, inefficient energy solutions proposed by Kyoto advocates simply cannot replace fossil fuels.”
On Grid-Connected Wind and Solar Power:
Wind Power is what warmists typically embrace – trillions of dollars have been squandered on worthless grid-connected wind power schemes that require life-of-project subsidies and drive up energy costs.
Some background on grid-connected wind power schemes:
The Capacity Factor of wind power is typically a bit over 20%, but that is NOT the relevant factor.
The real truth is told by the Substitution Capacity, which is dropping to as low as 4% in Germany – that is the amount of conventional generation that can be permanently retired when wind power is installed into the grid.
The E.ON Netz Wind Report 2005 is an informative document:
http://www.wind-watch.org/documents/wp-content/uploads/eonwindreport2005.pdf
(apparently no longer available from E.ON Netz website).
Figure 6 says Wind Power is too intermittent (and needs almost 100% spinning backup);
and
Figure 7 says it just gets worse and worse the more Wind Power you add to the grid (see Substitution Capacity dropping from 8% to 4%).
The same story applies to grid-connected Solar Power (both in the absence of a “Super-Battery”).
This was obvious to us decades ago.
Trillions of dollars have been squandered globally on green energy that is not green and produces little useful energy.
On Global Warming Alarmism:
We also write in the same 2002 article, prior to recognition that the current ~20 year “Pause” (actually a Plateau) was already underway:
“Climate science does not support the theory of catastrophic human-made global warming – the alleged warming crisis does not exist.”
I (we) now think global cooling will commence after the current El Nino runs its course, prior to 2020 and possibly as soon as 2017. Bundle up!
Regards to all, Allan

Reply to  Allan MacRae
June 24, 2016 9:16 am

I stated above: “When misinformed politicians fool with energy systems, innocent people suffer and die.”
In the four winter months (Dec-Mar) of 2012-13, the United Kingdom had about 50,000 Excess Winter Deaths. The USA, a country with FIVE TIMES the population of the UK, has about 100,000 Excess Winter Deaths in a typical winter.
This and other statistics indicate that the UK typically has many more Excess Winter Deaths per capita than the USA, Canada and the Scandinavian countries. This high winter death rate in the UK is caused by high energy costs and failure to adapt to winter (poor home insulation, etc.).
Prematurely killing off the elderly and the poor helps to cut the government’s deficit, but perhaps there are better ways to save money – such as killing off all subsidies to worthless grid-connected wind and solar power.
*******
Reference:
Cold Weather Kills 20 Times as Many People as Hot Weather
By Joseph D’Aleo and Allan MacRae
September 4, 2015
https://friendsofsciencecalgary.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/cold-weather-kills-macrae-daleo-4sept2015-final.pdf

Johann Wundersamer
June 24, 2016 3:10 am

The paralyzing decision congestion in the EU is finally broken , the other part states will be able to renegotiate what doesn’t suit their circumstances .

Patrick MJD
June 24, 2016 3:36 am

The reaction to Brexit in the financial markets is completely rediculous, crazy, reminds me of the 2008 financial collapse and before. This, however, could be the catalyst that breaks up the EU zone. Look for rumblings from the the Dutch, the Danes and the Italians IMO.
However, the implications of this are far reaching, much father than supporters seem to have considered. Employment law, health law, industrial law, immigration law you name it, the EU has had some input. There are many laws created in the EU zone and applied to the UK that will need to be repealed. There are many migrants from other EU countries living in Britain. There are many Britons who live in other countries in the EU zone. Passports and visas to be revoked.
In any case, article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty gives “negotiators”up to 2 years to reach an “agreement”. If no agreement is reached, the UK is, automatically, removed.

TA
Reply to  Patrick MJD
June 24, 2016 6:17 am

The markets are reacting to uncertainty. Things will settle down soon because there is no underlying economic reason for immediate panic. It’s all psychology and computer trading.

Menicholas
Reply to  TA
June 24, 2016 6:34 am

Here in the US, durable goods orders for May were released this morning. Down 2.2 %, vs .5 % expected.
Couple that with recent jobs data, and may already be falling into recession. This is just one more kick in that direction.
If a recession materializes it will be nearly impossible for the Democrats to win the White House in November.

Billy Liar
Reply to  Patrick MJD
June 24, 2016 3:14 pm

However, the implications of this are far reaching, much father than supporters seem to have considered. Employment law, health law, industrial law, immigration law you name it, the EU has had some input. There are many laws created in the EU zone and applied to the UK that will need to be repealed.
There’s no hurry; here’s what happened when India became independent:
… while independence was declared in India in 1948, a law review commission was not set up until 1955 and, so leisurely did it proceed that there are still laws on the Indian statute book that originated in Westminster.
Above extract from: http://eureferendum.com/
There are other examples:
Similarly, of Poland, although the collapse of the Soviet empire occurred in 1989, the Constitutional Tribunal did not make its ruling until 1995.
Same source as previous example.

Johann Wundersamer
June 24, 2016 3:41 am

These bureaucrats were law- Post of lobbyists . When they were asked : ‘ well , we do not know what the people want . ‘ Now they know – and groan under the load .

Patrick MJD
June 24, 2016 3:44 am

And I will add this, when Ted Heath took the UK in to the “Common Market” on January 1st 1973, as it was called then, he did so without a mandate “from the people” election time. There was a referendum in 1974, but the damage was done. Britons voted to stay. That decision pretty much destroyed the export economy of New Zealand in one hit.
Cameron committed political suicide by leading the “Remain” program.

TonyN
June 24, 2016 3:51 am

Looking forward to a secession referendum in at at least one State of the US, during the next decade …… Plenty of reasons coming up.

CodeTech
June 24, 2016 3:55 am

I have seen all of the dire predictions, and they are no more credible than a 200 foot sea level rise in 20 years.
This is the best thing to happen in decades, and will reverberate for another few years yet. I’m thrilled for the UK, yes even the “remainers”, as they will soon realize that “leave” wasn’t a bad choice after all.

June 24, 2016 4:11 am

I have a new anthem for the European Union. It goes like this “28 green bottles sitting on a wall and if one green bottle should accidently fall there’ll be 27 green bottles sitting on the wall. 27 green bottles………..”

rogerknights
June 24, 2016 4:12 am

This may set off another financial crisis, but only because Europe’s banks are so precariously over-leveraged that any shock could collapse them. I think this is what Mr. Market is worried about–and rightly so. I think this concern is the hidden, unspeakable reason so many establishment figures backed Remain. They still can’t mention it, because doing so could be the peddle that starts an avalanche, from the intangible factor of loss of confidence.
That loss of confidence is showing in the steep rise in, among other things, gold and Bitcoin since the vote.
The UK will be blamed, unfairly, for this.

rogerknights
Reply to  rogerknights
June 24, 2016 7:43 am

pebble

hunter
June 24, 2016 4:17 am

Freedom is worth it. Real freedom, not the climate consensus sort of freedom. Congratulations to the people of Britain. They have voted for freedom. Now what will they make of it?

Sandy In Limousin
Reply to  hunter
June 24, 2016 4:25 am

Nicola Sturgeon has two slogans ready made for her:
Take back control
Independence Day
Both of which Donald Trump seems to approve of.

rogerknights
June 24, 2016 4:19 am
Reply to  rogerknights
June 24, 2016 9:20 am

Excellent, Roger, thanks! 🙂

Sandy In Limousin
June 24, 2016 4:22 am

Interesting times indeed. Be careful what you wish for, it might just happen.
EU referendum result: Sinn Fein’s Martin McGuinness calls for border poll on united Ireland after Brexit
Brexit: Nicola Sturgeon says second Scottish independence vote ‘highly likely’
Of those the former might well be more problematic for the UK, a million British Ulster Unionist citizens heading to England possibly starting today? Scotland may raise some interesting discussions within the UK and EU, before leaving or even creating a federal UK, that’d be a turn-up for the books.

AndyG55
Reply to  Sandy In Limousin
June 24, 2016 4:51 am

Scotland can rely on their wind turbines,
England on gas and coal.
Have fun, Scotland. 😉

Patrick MJD
Reply to  AndyG55
June 25, 2016 12:20 am

North sea oil, production declining.

LdB
Reply to  Sandy In Limousin
June 24, 2016 7:02 am

Actually they have been discussing Scotland and Northern Ireland at length on new reports from UK and it seems.
1.) Both countries must be given the right for an independence vote by the UK parliament. The UK granted this years vote which was lost but it isn’t clear what the political fallout would be if they refused the rights.
2.) The UK is both countries major trading partner by massive amounts and they have nothing to gain from joining the EU. The fees from the EU would cripple both small countries the UK current fees to the EU is somewhere around 12 Billion pounds last year. As both countries have less trade it would be lower than that but as a guide Norway’s contribution for access to the EU market is 6 Billion Euro per year.
3.) The exit does not have to be immediate the UK can chose the time and it can’t be thrown out by the EU so long as it keeps paying it’s fees. The use of article 50 is solely on the British time they select to do it the EU can not dictate that.
Interesting indeed the UK actually has a quite strong position thanks to some of the clauses it fought for a long way back when it entered the EU 48 years ago.

Øystein Nordfjeld
Reply to  LdB
June 25, 2016 7:38 am

LdB says : “.. Norway’s contribution for access to the EU market is 6 billion Euro per year”.
First of all, Norway does not pay for the “access to the market”. We pay to different funds and programs including education, science programs, common border control etc were we also participate (and get something back for the money). The total amount is 391 million Euro per year (for the period 2014 to 2021)
Øystein, Norway

Jean Parisot
June 24, 2016 4:32 am

His predictions were far better than their climate work, maybe they should run their numbers by him.

rogerknights
June 24, 2016 4:33 am

This vote is going to normalize Leave or cut-back sentiment in many European countries. It will open the Overton window and make the matter more respectable. That in turn will increase its vote-share.
Those who want the EU to persist should immediately undertake big reforms, starting with such no-brainers as cutting EU employees’ salaries & perks and installing a strong inspector generals’ office to root out corruption.

Reply to  rogerknights
June 24, 2016 9:24 am

Even then they could not be trusted. The rot would creep back in, indeed it would always be just below the surface. Gang-green is gangrene. It has to be lopped off completely.

joelobryan
Reply to  rogerknights
June 24, 2016 9:37 am

What you ask, cutting EU salaries, perks, installing IGs, etc. is like expecting US Congressmen to cut back on their salary and perks of their position. They control their own salaries and perks. At least US Congressmen are restrained by the fact they can get voted out. An EU bureaucrat has no threat of someone above him throwing him out.
The only solution forward is to let the institution crumble, and start over on something different. Sometimes, a house really is too badly built and diseased to repair. Just tear it down, toss out the worm and termite damage, and build anew with lessons learned about accountability and human nature. And most of all, Set up governing structures that require policy to be evaluated on outcome, not on intent.

Bill Illis
June 24, 2016 4:36 am

The EU had been captured by special interests and has not been working for more than 20 years. French farmers, the greens, green energy, socialist zealots.
There are rules for everything which are actually designed to stop free trade and support some “movement” which gained power in the EU bureaucracy.

Hugs
Reply to  Bill Illis
June 24, 2016 5:09 am

An accurate description. The EU is almost designed as a platform for special interests (like unions) rather than general interests. Free trade in a kind, but in the end it stopped being about free trade but rather about uniform legal obstacles. Harmonization instead of liberty.
It would have helped the Euro Nationalists if they actually identified themselves clearly as nationalists and Euro patriotic rather than pushing vigorously some series of left wing stuff starting from pro-Isl*m and pro-P*lestine ending to prof*minism and prog*y. Progressive rock is OK, progressiveness in terms of sharing your tax money in their pet projects is really not.
And to make sure everyone understands: I’m not for misog*nism, bullying g*ys, or for sinking refuge3s in the Mediterranean. I’m against gunmen, slavetrade, and spoiling environment. It is all about how to do things, not about whether to do things.

commieBob
June 24, 2016 4:38 am

Congratulations Christopher Monckton. Well done.

DCipher
June 24, 2016 4:47 am

I voted to leave the EU yesterday and I’m as surprised as anyone that the vote went the way it did. I’m not convinced it will equal any massive changes in environmental policies in the UK, at least not in the short term. Most UK politicians remain convinced that mankind is causing the climate to change, and a large number of our sitting MPs voted for the Climate Change Act 2008. Hopefully when the dust settles we might get a bit more reasoned debate.

sherlock1
June 24, 2016 4:48 am

Big respect to Nigel Farage,, head of UKIP,, for banging on about the huge pile of fertiliser which is the EU for a quarter of a century – and who finally forced David Cameron to allow this referendum.
Some pretty red-faced bookmakers this morning who thought they new EVERYTHING, but now find out they know NOTHING….
Oh – and predictions of financial Armageddon slightly overblown – sure, sterling sank from $1.50 last night (Remain factored in) to $1.32 in the early hours – has now recovered to about $1.39….
Ditto the FTSE – sank from 6200 to 5800 – but now back above 6000…

Reply to  sherlock1
June 24, 2016 4:57 am

Without Nigel Farage, NONE of this would have happened.

drednicolson
Reply to  bazzer1959
June 24, 2016 6:24 pm

“A small stone makes only a ripple, at first, but eventually, it will be a wave.” ~Wiegraff, Final Fantasy Tactics
One of my favorite lines. One person, willing to throw in that first small stone, CAN make all the difference.

1saveenergy
Reply to  bazzer1959
June 25, 2016 12:00 am

“One person, willing to throw in that first small stone, CAN make all the difference.”
As has been proved throughout history –
Bonaparte, Christ, Einstein, Galileo, Gandhi, James Hanson, Hitler, Martin Luther, Mohamed, Emmeline Pankhurst, Louis Pasteur, Trotsky, Jethro Tull (not the pop group), George Washington, William Wilberforce, Mao Zedong; to name a few, have all made a difference …but not all for the better.
But, people in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones !!

E.M.Smith
Editor
Reply to  bazzer1959
June 26, 2016 3:49 pm

1saveenegy:
Only an idiot would live in a glass house, and we are not idiots. People who live in homes (we have homes, not houses) made of wood and stone can throw stones all we want. Mine is stucco over steel lath…
I suspect Nigel has brick. Very good brick… Perhaps even with a few spares for throwing brick…