
Guest essay by Eric Worrall
A number of stories have appeared recently, claiming that Republican Presidential Nominee Donald Trump’s position on Climate Change is inconsistent, because he used to support Climate Action. Apparently once you embrace the Climate faith, you are not allowed to become an apostate.
Donald Trump once backed urgent climate action. Wait, what?
As negotiators headed to Copenhagen in December 2009 to forge a global climate pact, concerned U.S. business leaders and liberal luminaries took out a full-page ad in the New York Times calling for aggressive climate action. In an open letter to President Obama and the U.S. Congress, they declared: “If we fail to act now, it is scientifically irrefutable that there will be catastrophic and irreversible consequences for humanity and our planet.”
One of the signatories of that letter: Donald Trump.
Also signed by Trump’s three adult children, the letter called for passage of U.S. climate legislation, investment in the clean energy economy, and leadership to inspire the rest of the world to join the fight against climate change.
“We support your effort to ensure meaningful and effective measures to control climate change, an immediate challenge facing the United States and the world today,” the letter tells the president and Congress. “Please allow us, the United States of America, to serve in modeling the change necessary to protect humanity and our planet.”
In every conceivable way, the letter contradicts Trump’s current stance on climate policy. On the campaign trail, Trump has said he is “not a big believer in man-made climate change.” Last fall, after Obama described climate change as a major threat to the United States and the world, Trump said that was “one of the dumbest statements I’ve ever heard in politics — in the history of politics as I know it.”
The 2009 ad also argues that a shift to clean energy “will spur economic growth” and “create new energy jobs.” But these days, Trump contends that U.S. action to limit greenhouse gas emissions would put the country at a competitive disadvantage. In 2012, he went so far as to claim: “The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive.”
The Copenhagen conference that inspired the open letter was part of the same two-decade-long U.N. negotiating process that led to a global climate deal in Paris last year. But whereas in 2009 Trump supported the process via the ad, now he wants to sabotage it, promising recently to “cancel” the Paris accord.
Read more: http://grist.org/politics/donald-trump-climate-action-new-york-times/
So what happened in 2009 which might have changed someone’s mind about the urgency of climate action? One word – Climategate.
In late November 2009, WUWT posted one of the first notices about the CRU hack.
The details on this are still sketchy, we’ll probably never know what went on. But it appears that University of East Anglia Climate Research Unit has been hacked and many many files have been released by the hacker or person unknown.
I’m currently traveling and writing this from an airport, but here is what I know so far:
An unknown person put postings on some climate skeptic websites that advertised an FTP file on a Russian FTP server, here is the message that was placed on the Air Vent today:
Around the same time, journalist James Delingpole coined the word “Climategate”. The story started to topple the orchestrated feel good press releases supporting the Copenhagen Conference.
Climategate: the final nail in the coffin of ‘Anthropogenic Global Warming’?
If you own any shares in alternative energy companies I should start dumping them NOW. The conspiracy behind the Anthropogenic Global Warming myth (aka AGW; aka ManBearPig) has been suddenly, brutally and quite deliciously exposed after a hacker broke into the computers at the University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit (aka Hadley CRU) and released 61 megabites of confidential files onto the internet. (Hat tip: Watts Up With That)
Read more (note the original link has been purged by The Telegraph): http://jamesdelingpole.com/2009/11/climategate-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-anthropogenic-global-warming/
If the Climategate news broke in November 2009, why did Trump still believe in December 2009? The answer might be that he was listening to advice from people who didn’t want him to change his mind. As soon as the Climategate story broke, the Climate establishment went into frantic damage control, doing everything in their power to downplay the story, to reframe it as a “stolen email” story – presumably to protect the Copenhagen Conference (h/t James Delingpole and Bishop Hill).
Inquiry into stolen climate e-mails
Details of a university inquiry into e-mails stolen from scientists at one of the UK’s leading climate research units are likely to be made public next week.
Announcement of a chair of the inquiry and terms of reference will probably be made on Monday, a source says.
The University of East Anglia’s (UEA) press office did not confirm the date.
But a spokesperson said information about the investigation into the hack at UEA’s Climatic Research Unit (CRU) would be made public very soon.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8383713.stm
By February 2010, knowledge of the magnitude of the “problems” in the CRU was becoming widespread.
For the very first time, the Climategate Letters “archived” the deleted portion of the Briffa MXD reconstruction of “Hide the Decline” fame – see here. Gavin Schmidt claimed that the decline had been “hidden in plain sight” (see here. ). This isn’t true.
The post-1960 data was deleted from the archived version of this reconstruction at NOAA here and not shown in the corresponding figure in Briffa et al 2001. Nor was the decline shown in the IPCC 2001 graph, one that Mann, Jones, Briffa, Folland and Karl were working in the two weeks prior to the “trick” email (or for that matter in the IPCC 2007 graph, an issue that I’ll return to.)
Read more: https://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/26/mcintyre-data-from-the-hide-the-decline/
Dr. Phil Jones, director of the CRU, gave his BBC interview, in which he admitted there was nothing statistically special about modern warming.
A – Do you agree that according to the global temperature record used by the IPCC, the rates of global warming from 1860-1880, 1910-1940 and 1975-1998 were identical?
An initial point to make is that in the responses to these questions I’ve assumed that when you talk about the global temperature record, you mean the record that combines the estimates from land regions with those from the marine regions of the world. CRU produces the land component, with the Met Office Hadley Centre producing the marine component.
Temperature data for the period 1860-1880 are more uncertain, because of sparser coverage, than for later periods in the 20th Century. The 1860-1880 period is also only 21 years in length. As for the two periods 1910-40 and 1975-1998 the warming rates are not statistically significantly different (see numbers below).
I have also included the trend over the period 1975 to 2009, which has a very similar trend to the period 1975-1998.
So, in answer to the question, the warming rates for all 4 periods are similar and not statistically significantly different from each other.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8511670.stm
Phil Jones also admitted to in my opinion shockingly bad peer review practices in the climate community. Maybe climate scientists sniff the papers they are asked to peer review, rather than checking the calculations.
Jones conceded that he did not usually publish raw data from weather stations, which was often covered by confidentiality agreements, nor the computer codes he used to analyse the data. “It hasn’t been standard practice to do that. Maybe it should, but it’s not,” he said.
Asked whether other climate scientists reviewing his papers ever required such data, he said, “They’ve never asked.” In response to a specific question about why he had failed to grant freelance researcher Warwick Hughes access to data, he said simply, “We had a lot of work and resources tied up in it.”
Read more: https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18599-climategate-scientist-questioned-in-parliament/
And of course, we have the infamous nature trick email, and the in my opinion unconvincing explanations of why the email doesn’t say what it appears to say.
From: Phil Jones
To: ray bradley ,mann@xxxxx.xxx, mhughes@xxxx.xxx
Subject: Diagram for WMO Statement
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:31:15 +0000
Cc: k.briffa@xxx.xx.xx,t.osborn@xxxx.xxx
Dear Ray, Mike and Malcolm,
Once Tim’s got a diagram here we’ll send that either later today or
first thing tomorrow.
I’ve just completed Mike’s Nature trick of adding in the real temps
to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd from
1961 for Keith’s to hide the decline. Mike’s series got the annual
land and marine values while the other two got April-Sept for NH land
N of 20N. The latter two are real for 1999, while the estimate for 1999
for NH combined is +0.44C wrt 61-90. The Global estimate for 1999 with
data through Oct is +0.35C cf. 0.57 for 1998.
Thanks for the comments, Ray.
Cheers
Phil
Read more: https://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/20/mikes-nature-trick/
Was it Climategate which changed Donald Trump’s mind? We won’t know unless Trump chooses to speak on this issue. I suspect though if you have a lot of money, and scam artists are always circling, you have to develop a pretty well tuned BS meter. There is a lot in the Climategate scandal, to shake the confidence of even the most committed climate activist.
Philip Mulholland points out that the term “Climategate” was first coined by commenter Bulldust
Just remember Margaret Thatcher was one of the worlds first politicians to support the concept of AGW. However as has been testified by Viscount Monckton of Brenchley, before she died she to changed her mind. So the Donald is in good company.
I know that there are many here who are not Trump fans. I find many of his positions to be wrong-headed. However, he is leading a populous uprising against the elites. (that is what populous uprisings are really) The elite Republicans are horrific people and are anti-American. But so are the Democratic Party movers and shakers. Sanders was leading a populous uprising on the Democratic side.
Why is there so very much discontent on the part of the working class in America? Find that answer and you will then know why even anarchists (many anarcho-capitalists) and other liberty leaning people are backing The Donald in spite of some of his anti-libertarian positions and statements.
The people who hate Trump mostly are people that hate my kind and I return the sentiment. The enemy of my enemy and all that. I hate the smug left wing liars with a passion that can not be put into words. So, go Trump go.
Did Trump find out about the CO2 delusion as time went along? Sure, as did many who comment here. I wager not 1 in 100 here did not believe a word of it from the very beginning. I bet the long pause was important to many and the climate-gate e-mails were very important to others. (some overlap there no doubt) Many people here changed position over time. Why not Trump?
Hear, hear!
If the Climate Pest we would dump,
Let us vote for Donald J. Trump.
markstoval
Because Trump sways with the political climate. He will say whatever he needs to say to get the votes he needs to get his foot in the door. You certainly couldn’t rely on a thing he says. If he (God forbid) ends up being president, only time will tell what he does. You would be naive to rely on his word to predict his future actions.
Simon …
“He will say whatever he needs to say to get the votes he needs …”
As does Hillary, of course. She and her husband have taken pandering to a level never seen before.
Many of us are voting for Trump because he’s a question mark and Hillary is not … she is evil personified. We don’t know what we would get with a President Trump … but we do know what we would get with a President Hillary, including giving her husband a third term in the WH. That would be unacceptable.
And you would rather have the career politician instead? The one who has been a warmonger for decades now? I hear those career politicians are often very stingy with the truth.
I don’t expect there to ever be a great choice to vote for — I will recommend a vote against the establishment Republicans and the establishment Democrats when you can. I choose this because I see the country in deep, deep trouble with a crumbling society that gets more barbaric by the day; and believe that those who rule you brought this about. The elites, establishment, or deep state — call it what you wish.
If you look around and love what you see; then by all means vote for the establishment’s preferred candidate. Care not about the women and children that will be killed in the countries she decides needs invading next. As for me, the populist beats heck out of the deep state’s choice — any day.
~ Mark
markstoval wrote: “The elite Republicans are horrific people and are anti-American. But so are the Democratic Party movers and shakers.”
Agreed. The elite Republicans *are* horrific, deluded people. Their behavior is unbelieveable. Romney and his clique ought to be kicked out of the Republican Pary. I guess they go crazy when their power and influence are threatened, and that’s why they are acting so nutty.
The problem is “crazy” is going to get Clinton elected, and then we lose our country to the Lunatic Left, maybe for good. Meanwhile, Romney and friends are rolling the dice over our future. These guys are the enemy, as much as the Lunatic Left.
Trump is going to go around these clowns to the American people, just like Reagan did. Just like he has been doing this entire election.
The people are listening to Trump, not the elites. If the elites give Trump trouble, Trump is going to tell the people to write and complain to their congressional representative, and they will write their congressional representative. And their congressional represenative will salute. People Power!
Well, you know the punishment for Apostasy.
Why does anyone bother citing issues where Trump has changed his position any more? He’s changed his position on nearly every issue in order to conform with those of the people he’s counting on to elect him president. In fact, it seems that the only issues on which he hasn’t changed his position are those on which his position has been consistently wrong.
Well, “CLRII,” you seem to be indulging in sheer prejudice. Which issues? From what to what? And where is he now? The point seems to be, is he in the right place with respect to the issues? If he is, how can you say it is not sincere? How is it that you–and only you?–have the telepathic insight into Trump that he is not to be trusted? Or are all his loyal employees and family a parade of actors?
In fact, Trump has been saying what hardly anyone OTHER than him has been saying, and we (the people) AGREE with him. He is in the lead on these issues. He is not following anyone. Which you would be aware of, if you actually followed what he is doing.
Since the alternative to Trump is Hillary Clinton, a multiple violator of national security–if not an actual traitor–and a consummate liar (just like her husband), it is obvious where your sympathies lie, and why there is no limit to what you will say.
3 billion people don’t have adequate access to electricity. Very little running water, no indoor plumbing or toilets, dung for fuel. Do we want to go back to whale oil and cutting down forests? Would the AGW crowd like to trade their lives for someone living in the slums of Calcutta?
The Left is about economic control as part of anti-capitalism from what I can see.