Surprise: Trump was Once Concerned about Climate Change

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Guest essay by Eric Worrall

A number of stories have appeared recently, claiming that Republican Presidential Nominee Donald Trump’s position on Climate Change is inconsistent, because he used to support Climate Action. Apparently once you embrace the Climate faith, you are not allowed to become an apostate.

Donald Trump once backed urgent climate action. Wait, what?

As negotiators headed to Copenhagen in December 2009 to forge a global climate pact, concerned U.S. business leaders and liberal luminaries took out a full-page ad in the New York Times calling for aggressive climate action. In an open letter to President Obama and the U.S. Congress, they declared: “If we fail to act now, it is scientifically irrefutable that there will be catastrophic and irreversible consequences for humanity and our planet.”

One of the signatories of that letter: Donald Trump.

Also signed by Trump’s three adult children, the letter called for passage of U.S. climate legislation, investment in the clean energy economy, and leadership to inspire the rest of the world to join the fight against climate change.

“We support your effort to ensure meaningful and effective measures to control climate change, an immediate challenge facing the United States and the world today,” the letter tells the president and Congress. “Please allow us, the United States of America, to serve in modeling the change necessary to protect humanity and our planet.”

In every conceivable way, the letter contradicts Trump’s current stance on climate policy. On the campaign trail, Trump has said he is “not a big believer in man-made climate change.” Last fall, after Obama described climate change as a major threat to the United States and the world, Trump said that was “one of the dumbest statements I’ve ever heard in politics — in the history of politics as I know it.”

The 2009 ad also argues that a shift to clean energy “will spur economic growth” and “create new energy jobs.” But these days, Trump contends that U.S. action to limit greenhouse gas emissions would put the country at a competitive disadvantage. In 2012, he went so far as to claim: “The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive.”

The Copenhagen conference that inspired the open letter was part of the same two-decade-long U.N. negotiating process that led to a global climate deal in Paris last year. But whereas in 2009 Trump supported the process via the ad, now he wants to sabotage it, promising recently to “cancel” the Paris accord.

Read more: http://grist.org/politics/donald-trump-climate-action-new-york-times/

So what happened in 2009 which might have changed someone’s mind about the urgency of climate action? One word – Climategate.

In late November 2009, WUWT posted one of the first notices about the CRU hack.

The details on this are still sketchy, we’ll probably never know what went on. But it appears that University of East Anglia Climate Research Unit has been hacked and many many files have been released by the hacker or person unknown.

I’m currently traveling and writing this from an airport, but here is what I know so far:

An unknown person put postings on some climate skeptic websites that advertised an FTP file on a Russian FTP server, here is the message that was placed on the Air Vent today:

Read more: https://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/19/breaking-news-story-hadley-cru-has-apparently-been-hacked-hundreds-of-files-released/

Around the same time, journalist James Delingpole coined the word “Climategate”. The story started to topple the orchestrated feel good press releases supporting the Copenhagen Conference.

Climategate: the final nail in the coffin of ‘Anthropogenic Global Warming’?

If you own any shares in alternative energy companies I should start dumping them NOW. The conspiracy behind the Anthropogenic Global Warming myth (aka AGW; aka ManBearPig) has been suddenly, brutally and quite deliciously exposed after a hacker broke into the computers at the University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit (aka Hadley CRU) and released 61 megabites of confidential files onto the internet. (Hat tip: Watts Up With That)

Read more (note the original link has been purged by The Telegraph): http://jamesdelingpole.com/2009/11/climategate-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-anthropogenic-global-warming/

If the Climategate news broke in November 2009, why did Trump still believe in December 2009? The answer might be that he was listening to advice from people who didn’t want him to change his mind. As soon as the Climategate story broke, the Climate establishment went into frantic damage control, doing everything in their power to downplay the story, to reframe it as a “stolen email” story – presumably to protect the Copenhagen Conference (h/t James Delingpole and Bishop Hill).

Inquiry into stolen climate e-mails

Details of a university inquiry into e-mails stolen from scientists at one of the UK’s leading climate research units are likely to be made public next week.

Announcement of a chair of the inquiry and terms of reference will probably be made on Monday, a source says.

The University of East Anglia’s (UEA) press office did not confirm the date.

But a spokesperson said information about the investigation into the hack at UEA’s Climatic Research Unit (CRU) would be made public very soon.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8383713.stm

By February 2010, knowledge of the magnitude of the “problems” in the CRU was becoming widespread.

For the very first time, the Climategate Letters “archived” the deleted portion of the Briffa MXD reconstruction of “Hide the Decline” fame – see here. Gavin Schmidt claimed that the decline had been “hidden in plain sight” (see here. ). This isn’t true.

The post-1960 data was deleted from the archived version of this reconstruction at NOAA here and not shown in the corresponding figure in Briffa et al 2001. Nor was the decline shown in the IPCC 2001 graph, one that Mann, Jones, Briffa, Folland and Karl were working in the two weeks prior to the “trick” email (or for that matter in the IPCC 2007 graph, an issue that I’ll return to.)

Read more: https://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/26/mcintyre-data-from-the-hide-the-decline/

Dr. Phil Jones, director of the CRU, gave his BBC interview, in which he admitted there was nothing statistically special about modern warming.

A – Do you agree that according to the global temperature record used by the IPCC, the rates of global warming from 1860-1880, 1910-1940 and 1975-1998 were identical?

An initial point to make is that in the responses to these questions I’ve assumed that when you talk about the global temperature record, you mean the record that combines the estimates from land regions with those from the marine regions of the world. CRU produces the land component, with the Met Office Hadley Centre producing the marine component.

Temperature data for the period 1860-1880 are more uncertain, because of sparser coverage, than for later periods in the 20th Century. The 1860-1880 period is also only 21 years in length. As for the two periods 1910-40 and 1975-1998 the warming rates are not statistically significantly different (see numbers below).

I have also included the trend over the period 1975 to 2009, which has a very similar trend to the period 1975-1998.

So, in answer to the question, the warming rates for all 4 periods are similar and not statistically significantly different from each other.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8511670.stm

Phil Jones also admitted to in my opinion shockingly bad peer review practices in the climate community. Maybe climate scientists sniff the papers they are asked to peer review, rather than checking the calculations.

Jones conceded that he did not usually publish raw data from weather stations, which was often covered by confidentiality agreements, nor the computer codes he used to analyse the data. “It hasn’t been standard practice to do that. Maybe it should, but it’s not,” he said.

Asked whether other climate scientists reviewing his papers ever required such data, he said, “They’ve never asked.” In response to a specific question about why he had failed to grant freelance researcher Warwick Hughes access to data, he said simply, “We had a lot of work and resources tied up in it.”

Read more: https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18599-climategate-scientist-questioned-in-parliament/

And of course, we have the infamous nature trick email, and the in my opinion unconvincing explanations of why the email doesn’t say what it appears to say.

From: Phil Jones

To: ray bradley ,mann@xxxxx.xxx, mhughes@xxxx.xxx

Subject: Diagram for WMO Statement

Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:31:15 +0000

Cc: k.briffa@xxx.xx.xx,t.osborn@xxxx.xxx

Dear Ray, Mike and Malcolm,

Once Tim’s got a diagram here we’ll send that either later today or

first thing tomorrow.

I’ve just completed Mike’s Nature trick of adding in the real temps

to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd from

1961 for Keith’s to hide the decline. Mike’s series got the annual

land and marine values while the other two got April-Sept for NH land

N of 20N. The latter two are real for 1999, while the estimate for 1999

for NH combined is +0.44C wrt 61-90. The Global estimate for 1999 with

data through Oct is +0.35C cf. 0.57 for 1998.

Thanks for the comments, Ray.

Cheers

Phil

Read more: https://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/20/mikes-nature-trick/

Was it Climategate which changed Donald Trump’s mind? We won’t know unless Trump chooses to speak on this issue. I suspect though if you have a lot of money, and scam artists are always circling, you have to develop a pretty well tuned BS meter. There is a lot in the Climategate scandal, to shake the confidence of even the most committed climate activist.

Philip Mulholland points out that the term “Climategate” was first coined by commenter Bulldust

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Pamela Gray
June 9, 2016 7:39 pm

All politicians change their minds, some more, some less. It is in their nature. And Trump is one of the more political ones.

RockyRoad
Reply to  Pamela Gray
June 9, 2016 9:36 pm

He’s not a valid politician until he’s elected to some political office, which hasn’t happened yet. Dunno what it means to be “one of the more political ones”.

Pamela Gray
Reply to  RockyRoad
June 10, 2016 6:25 am

You’re kidding right? Trump has played the political card game since his first official business signature was affixed to paper, and admits it. He plays the political wind in virtuoso style like few other businessmen. Given the fact that I think the man is a decided risk (as in what will he believe tomorrow?), I can’t in good conscious, vote for HIllary. All of her shenanigans are hidden from view under layers of deceptively colorful, xray resistant pant suits. Trump wears his dirty underwear on the outside of his same old black (but expensive) business suit, even hoisting them up on a flag pole just so the media can take pictures!
I will vote for the dirty underwear I know, rather than the dirty underwear I don’t know. And then pray as if my life depended on it if the man wins.

June 9, 2016 8:16 pm

A lot of us were once concerned about climate change. That’s why we decided to learn more about it.

jones
Reply to  RoHa
June 10, 2016 1:46 am

Ditto….

Walter Sobchak
June 9, 2016 8:18 pm

I loathe Clinton. I despise Trump. I hope that the Earth is struck by an asteroid on November 8. It is a mug’s game to try and figure out whether Trump means anything at all. His thinking all originates below his waist. And no, the only house Hillary belongs in is the Big House at Ossining.

Zeke
Reply to  Walter Sobchak
June 9, 2016 9:01 pm

Unbelievable.

Zeke
Reply to  Walter Sobchak
June 9, 2016 9:16 pm

I meant this whole situation is unbelievable.
He is unbelievable as well.

Snarling Dolphin
June 9, 2016 9:04 pm

If the models don’t fit, you must acquit. When individuals take an objective look at the issue, skepticism blossoms.

u.k(us)
June 9, 2016 9:32 pm

I think it is time for everyone to just take a deep breath, take away any remaining powers of the electorate.
Give it four years and see what happens, what are we even pushing for ??

Scottish Sceptic
Reply to  u.k(us)
June 10, 2016 2:48 am

Campaigning on Brexit, I’ve been struck by the similarity of those supporting the undemocratic EU and climate “alarmists” – indeed they could both very well be called “alarmists”.
Because the whole argument of both groups is this: “the ordinary people are so stupid (for not supporting whatever daft thing they support), that they must be scared into handing control to unelected officials who ‘know’ what is best for them”.

SAMURAI
June 9, 2016 10:33 pm

CAGW is a political phenomenon, not a physical one…
POLITICALLY, it makes perfect business sense for business leaders to give tacit or even explicit support for the political CAGW movement to protect their business interests…
Are these businessmen “selling out” if they’re truly skeptical of CAGW but appear otherwise? Yes, of course, they are, but business leaders have a fiduciary responsibility to their stockholders to maximize stockholder equity. Accordingly, from a purely bottom-line business perspective, it currently makes more sense for business executives to give the appearance of being for “saving the planet” (i.e. CAGW) as opposed to being an “evil” CAGW skeptic out to “destroy the planet for children and our children’s children” and risk: boycotts, loss of business, lawsuits, careers or even RICO raids…
“For the vast majority of mankind accept appearances as though they were reality, and are influenced more by those things that seem than by those things that are.” The Prince (Niccolo Machiavelli, 1513)
Because CAGW is a political movement, and Leftist ideology is prominent illogical, immoral and unscientific political philosophy of this generation, it’s logical (at least from a business perspective) to appear to be illogical and unscientific in supporting CAGW for the sake of the bottom line…
CAGW is just one manifestation of the Orwellian Leftist world we line in. Perhaps with the inevitable demise of CAGW, more people will begin to question the Leftist ideology in general and realize it is truly the destroyer of worlds and entire civilizations, as all immoral, unethical, illogical, anti-human and unscientific ideologies eventually lead.

June 9, 2016 10:35 pm

I am astounded that an article mentioning Donald Trump is capable of drawing so many hate filled alarmist cockroaches out into the light of day on this website. Trump is on the side of skeptics; Clinton is on the side of alarmists. From the statements each has made that is an indisputable fact. All those who have made nasty insults about Donald Trump have made it clear where they stand and why they are visiting the site; they are nothing more than disruptive trolls. I feel like the paid agitators who attacked Trump supporters in San Jose are posting on WUTW tonight. Amazing!

ScienceABC123
June 10, 2016 12:14 am

I to was once very concerned about climate change, but that was back in 1973 when we thought a new ice age was coming soon.

Wolfho
June 10, 2016 12:27 am

Its much easier than that, he was democrat now hes a republican.

Michael J. Dunn
Reply to  Wolfho
June 10, 2016 2:13 pm

Uh, so was Ronald Reagan.

June 10, 2016 1:07 am

Man has mellowed with age, changing from a raving alarmist into the sedate armchair sceptic.

jarthuroriginal
June 10, 2016 1:11 am

Reagan was once a Democrat.

Philip Mulholland
June 10, 2016 1:52 am

Around the same time, journalist James Delingpole coined the word “Climategate”.

Sorry Eric, it was Bulldust in this comment published here on WUWT on November 19 2009 who first used the term ClimateGate.

Hmmm how long before this is dubbed ClimateGate?

See also Ben U. November 27, 2015 at 7:40 pm and Telegraph’s Booker on the “climategate” scandal for additional confirmation and acknowledgement by James Delingpole.

Chris Wright
June 10, 2016 2:07 am

As a UK voter who will be voting Leave in two weeks’ time, I would say that Trump is far from perfect – but he’s several million times better than Obama and Clinton.
Obama threatened us that if we left the corrupt and ant-democratic European Union, we would be at the end of the queue when it came to negotiating any free trade deals with the US.
In contrast, Trump said that it wouldn’t be a problem.
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Those Trump quotes given above are fairly encouraging. It strongly suggests that Trump has based his change of opinion on some amount of facts, for example he is aware that global cooling was the popular scare in the 1970’s. Whether he was aware of Climategate seems to me to be pure speculation, particularly if he never mentioned it.
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I hope that Trump will be the next President and that, perhaps against all the odds, he proves to be a great President that restores America’s proper place in the world, after the damage done by Obama. We owe a huge debt to America. If it had not been for the sacrifices of all those US troops, today the European Union would probably be run by the Nazis.
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I’m convinced that a strong and resurgent America is the best hope for the world.
And I hope that Britain, finally free of the dead hand of Brussels, will be a close ally of America. Together, our two great nations could have a great future that will also immeasurably benefit the world as a whole.
Chris

Steve T
Reply to  Chris Wright
June 10, 2016 6:45 am

“If it had not been for the sacrifices of all those US troops, today the European Union would probably be run by the Na zis.”
**********************************************************************************************
Hands up all those who think it isn’t. ???
SteveT

TA
Reply to  Chris Wright
June 10, 2016 7:45 pm

The United States and Great Britain are a good combination. A winning combination.

Scottish Sceptic
June 10, 2016 2:38 am

I used to be an individual member of the British Wind Energy Association and wrote to the papers regularly about the “need” for wind (but a bigger need to create jobs).
And unlike Trump with a science degree I had even less excuse for taking the word of the idiots pushing climate Armageddon when there was next to no evidence to back them up.
And as a result I will never again take the word of a so called “expert” on any subject whether it is global warming doomsday or the supposed economic “doomsday” when we leave the EU.

Slywolfe
June 10, 2016 5:27 am

I suspect Trump’s advisory team has expanded considerably in the past year. I interpret his current language as an indicator that he has found a science advisor.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  Slywolfe
June 10, 2016 6:43 am

Or, who the spittle-flecked Climatists will, in lock-step fashion immediately call his “anti-science D-word” advisor.

Reply to  Slywolfe
June 10, 2016 8:45 am

I interpret his current language as an indicator that he has found a science advisor.

See: http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/673005/Trump-the-climate-change-denier-Republican-hires-top-sceptic-as-energy-advisor
“DONALD Trump has cemented his stance as a ‘climate change denier’ after hiring one of America’s top global warming sceptics as his energy policy advisor.
Trump has given a significant clue to his future energy policies should the entrepreneur make it to the White House, after selecting US Republican Representative Kevin Cramer for the role.”

Reply to  Werner Brozek
June 10, 2016 5:01 pm

Why did you leave out the part where Cramer is open to a carbon tax? Did you do any more research on Cramer other than reading the obviously biased article you linked to?

Slywolfe
Reply to  Werner Brozek
June 10, 2016 5:45 pm

Mr Cramer is not a scientist.

alcheson
Reply to  Werner Brozek
June 11, 2016 10:15 pm

Trump already adamantly said after someone else mentioned the supposed Cramer is open to carbon tax, that there DEFINITELY would NOT be any carbon tax in a Trump administration.

CamCam^2
June 10, 2016 6:39 am

You are trying to rationalize the behavior of a narcissist. Trump will say anything that he thinks will get him what he wants.

June 10, 2016 6:52 am

This can’t be true. People are only sceptical of Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Change because they are stubborn and unwilling to change their opinion.

June 10, 2016 6:52 am

Trump didn’t change his mind because of ClimateGate. He never had any position on this, or anything else. He just says whatever he thinks the suckers want to hear.

Jim G1
Reply to  talldave2
June 10, 2016 7:17 am

To all ideological voters: Voting always comes down to choosing between, or among, the lesser of evils. Anyone who thinks differently or chooses not to vote if they cannot get everything they want is terminally naive. Socialism does not work. History has proven this. Capitalism does work, also proven by history. Even crony capitalism. The best you can hope for is a very large group of cronies and to “die in your sleep”, as Kenny Rogers put it.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  talldave2
June 10, 2016 7:27 am

All politicians pander to some extent. In the end, actions speak way louder than words, though. True, Trump is somewhat an unknown commodity at this point. I think it is safe to say though, that he isn’t going to back down to Greenie demands that he scuttle our economy over some highly-questionable idea. He loves America too much for that, while Clinton we know for a fact is the exact opposite. And she has Bernie on her left, pushing her to do even more , so that we can go down the tubes even faster.

Reply to  talldave2
June 10, 2016 5:04 pm

HILLARY just says whatever SHE thinks the suckers want to hear.

June 10, 2016 7:07 am

I used to believe in Global Cooling (1970’s) and then initially bought into Global Warming (early 2000’s) until I saw Gore’s movie, and then as a scientist my “bologna detector” starting ringing off and I recognized CAGW as the scam it is. We’re experiencing mild warming. Meh.
So I consider it perfectly reasonable to change one’s mind based on the preponderance if evidence.
A great man I know says “If you can’t change your mind, you don’t have one.”

Gary Pearse
June 10, 2016 7:57 am

There is an inside view of the minds of dyed in the wool climate fanatics in the Grist and many commenters here. They think it is a sign of weakness or disloyalty to change your mind. This shows it is dogma. The facts don’t matter.

Joel Snider
June 10, 2016 8:19 am

I was concerned at the beginning too. Thirty years ago. Then I researched it.

June 10, 2016 8:39 am

In evaluating how to vote in this year’s presidential election, I only consider one fundamental view held by candidates Clinton and Trump.
Fundamentally, I consider only which one will tend to mitigate against government intervention on any basic actions needed for a productive and voluntary human life.
So far, Trump has given me cause to think he will do so and I think Clinton will not do so.
John

tadchem
June 10, 2016 9:46 am

Age and experience allow a sensible person to accumulate wisdom and confront past mistakes, becoming wiser.
I hear frequently about people who formerly were climate alarmists who became skeptics, but never hear of alarmists who were formerly skeptics.
This indicates which way wisdom is driving thinking regarding climate change theory.

Bryan
June 10, 2016 9:48 am

I too changed my opinion about the CO2 induced climatic issue once the perversion of the scientific method revealed by climategate was made clear.
The public should expect to have confidence in the statements of scientists and the behaviour of leading climate alarmists was a gross betrayal of the trust that the public placed in them

TA
Reply to  Bryan
June 10, 2016 7:52 pm

Bryan wrote: “The public should expect to have confidence in the statements of scientists and the behaviour of leading climate alarmists was a gross betrayal of the trust that the public placed in them”
Absolutely correct. An enornmously costly betrayal of the public trust. With no end in sight.

James at 48
June 10, 2016 10:16 am

No one knows what a bozo sales puke turned would be politician believes. Such are person will tell the audience what they want to hear. Different audience, different pitch.

James at 48
Reply to  James at 48
June 10, 2016 10:17 am

Should have read “Such a person” …. auto-correct weirdness …

Reply to  James at 48
June 10, 2016 5:12 pm

No one knows what a lying screeching political puke turned would be president believes. Such a person will tell the audience what they want to hear. Different audience, different pitch.

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