Hump Day Hilarity – The 97% climate expertise [warning graphic content]

Josh writes:

I had an idea with Brandon [Shollenberger] about discovering a secret stupid chart along the lines of the one he found.

Shollenberger writes:


I think I may have found the strangest chart I have ever seen. You can see it below, taken from the newly published paper on the supposed “consensus on the consensus” on global warming:

consvexpertise2

Now, I discussed this paper a bit yesterday, and there are probably a lot of things more important to discuss than this chart. Those other things aren’t as funny though. You see, this chart is complete nonsense. Look at the x-axis. See how it says “Expertise”? Tell me, what scale do you think that’s on?

You’re wrong. It doesn’t matter what your answer might have been; it’s wrong. It’s wrong because there is no scale for the x-axis on this chart.

Seriously. This is what the authors of the paper had to say about the chart:

Figure 1 uses Bayesian credible intervals to visualise the degree of confidence of each consensus estimate (largely a function of the sample size). The coloring refers to the density of the Bayesian posterior, with anything that isn’t gray representing the 99% credible interval around the estimated proportions (using a Jeffreys prior). Expertise for each consensus estimate was assigned qualitatively, using ordinal values from 1 to 5. Only consensus estimates obtained over the last 10 years are included.

See: http://www.hi-izuru.org/wp_blog/2016/04/strangest-chart-ever-created/

That essay from Shollenberger is well worth a read as it shows how ridiculous the new paper from John Cook actually is. Following Cook’s lead, and in turn, working with Josh, we were able to bin the major players on the climate and consensus wars.

97pct-expertise-chart

Here is the rationale for the binning from our “independent” raters:

Ehrlich and Stern don’t seem to have any particular direction, they throw a lot of alarmist mud at random times, hence “confused”. Stern earns a  lot more than Ehrlich so rates higher on the $10K units.

Nuccitelli and Allen seem unaffected by any facts, and drone on with the same message, just repackaged. Hence the “dim” bin.

McKibben is a nice guy, but has only minimal climate expertise, basically regurgitating news items and seeing the effects of every weather event as “proof” of global warming on his Twitter feed. He also thinks we can “change physics” so he gets binned in the “idiot” category. Mandia, who has meteorological expertise, would not be in this category at all, except that he self binned by becoming a climate superhero. Klein writes bestselling books, that she herself doesn’t quite understand, but assures us she’s “changing everything“, so fits in this category as a high-earner.

Lew and Oreskes, self binned, are permanently sealed in, with no escape from their own seepage in their self-made conspiracy theory theater. Oh, and your pets will die too.

Schmidt, has a category all his own, but often disappoints because his wish is to never debate a skeptic or answer a question from a skeptic.

Trenberth and Hansen do a lot of projection, seeing missing heat, coal death trains, and disappearing cities under sea level rise all due to climate model output.

Cook, caught lying on more than one occasion. Low earner.

Gleick, admits his own fraud, low earner, about to be even lower.

Gore, a high earner raking in millions, can’t even do high school science without faking results in post-production.

Mann, is an outlier. In keeping with McIntyre’s note about reporting both positive and negative results, we report the outlier here. Enough said.

Note: Bob Ward of the Grantham Institute was also on this list for plotting, but because at one time or another he has put himself in every bin, we had to discard him and his data as being “unbinnable”.

0 0 votes
Article Rating

Discover more from Watts Up With That?

Subscribe to get the latest posts sent to your email.

110 Comments
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
Eugene WR Gallun
April 13, 2016 9:07 pm

Looking closely I see Mann written outside the upper right hand corner of the chart. So your are saying that Mann is “off the chart”.
Eugene WR Gallun

LdB
Reply to  Eugene WR Gallun
April 13, 2016 9:29 pm

He is an outliner and assigned a NAN value 🙂

Mike the Morlock
Reply to  Eugene WR Gallun
April 13, 2016 9:47 pm

Eugene WR Gallun April 13, 2016 at 9:07 pm ” Mann is “off the chart”.
He’s stowing away on Dr Stephen Hawking tiny space probe and on his way to Alpha Century
michael

Mike the Morlock
Reply to  Mike the Morlock
April 13, 2016 11:40 pm

arrrhg
Alpha Centauri A
michael

Reply to  Mike the Morlock
April 14, 2016 12:26 am

Mike, Centauri A or B no matter what, that was funny as heck!

2klbofun
April 13, 2016 9:19 pm

My research indicates that 97% of astrologists believe in astrology.

Seth
Reply to  2klbofun
April 14, 2016 12:46 am

Good point. So without getting a PhD in climate science, how can we tell that climate science isn’t a psuedo science?
Here’s some of the tells:
1) It appears in scientific journals, including general science journals, including the most highly cited journals in the world. NPG has a dedicated climate change journal now.
2) It appears in the curriculum of respected universities. Where people contributing to climate science are cross disciplinary, they are respected in other fields of science.
3) It has flow on effects that are studied in other fields. Ecology, economics, epidemiology, geology and optics have deep crossover with climate science.

Reply to  Seth
April 14, 2016 1:03 am

Seth,
Prof Richard Lindzen has twenty dozen peer reviewed publications, so by your specious ‘logic’, you must accept his views.
But then, logic never was your strong point.

SomethingFishy
Reply to  Seth
April 14, 2016 4:13 am

Your criteria applied to Eugenics would also tell us that Eugenics isn’t a psuedo science. After all it had tons of published work, was supported by highly respected scientists and universities and had plenty of flow on effects.
Eugenics also enjoyed broad support from popular politicians, religious figures, social scientists, and economists… Gee, that sounds familiar. Worth noting to that while many of them reserved their positions when it became abundantly clear that supporting Eugenics was a dead end a strong enough group to keep laws for forced sterilization on the books existed well into the 80s in parts of The West.
To clarify, I’m not trying to say that Climate Scientists are you know whats or whatever. I’m saying that are various points in history if your criteria were applied to areas of science we now know today are beyond a shadow of a doubt wrong we wouldn’t have ever figured that out.
I’m hind-casting your idea… Which then falls apart. But it doesn’t surprise me that you are a fan of modern Climate Science and don’t see the point in hind-casting.

seth
Reply to  Seth
April 14, 2016 4:45 am

dbstealey wrote: “Prof Richard Lindzen has twenty dozen peer reviewed publications, so by your specious ‘logic’, you must accept his views.”

I don’t think that does follow from my logic.
Would you mind pointing out where I suggest that if a person has over a certain number of papers, all their views must be correct?

dbstealey wrote: “But then, logic never was your strong point.

I certainly find that remaining a critical thinker is a constant struggle against my deceptive mind. And I certainly fail a lot.

Reply to  2klbofun
April 14, 2016 6:28 am

Seth you can tell that Climate science is not a real science because it has the word “SCIENCE” in it’s name. Real sciences don’t. One doesn’t say Mathematical science or Physical science, they are known as Mathematics and Physics respectively. So Seth from now on remember if the word Science is in the name it is probably not real science. It is just a way for people to graduate who are too dumb to get a real PHD sort of like the basket weaving courses for the BA degree. /sarc

LdB
April 13, 2016 9:52 pm

Josh could we lobby for a 3D version where Z is an imaginary axis and we could get plot Mann on it then, along with his Nobel prize.

David Chappell
Reply to  LdB
April 14, 2016 2:54 am

Don’t forget Trenberth’s Nobel Prize, too, which still appears on his CV.

Jer0me
Reply to  LdB
April 15, 2016 8:18 am

I think we may need 4 dimensions for that…

3¢worth
April 13, 2016 10:11 pm

Oh you Americans, always leaving your neighbours in The Great White North out. What about that little engine who couldn’t – that geneticist turned Climate Expert Dr. David Suzuki. He’s the guy who said that Canada is full (36 million souls) and can’t support any more people. He said Canadians should make due with less, yet he owns four homes, and that people should have fewer children, while he has begat five tots of his own. Suzuki said people should have a smaller “carbon footprint” (how I hate that term) while he, by his own admission, jets off to Australia once or twice every year “just for fun”. I wonder if anybody out there, maybe from Australia, has the video of Suzuki from a few years back on a stage somewhere Down Under being made a fool of by some Australian scientists. Australians lived up to their reputation of not suffering fools gladly. He was not only made to look dim for his comments on climate science (including the fact he didn’t know what UAH, GISS, HadCrut etc. stood for), but he didn’t seem to know much about GMO’s which he is, of course, against. One would have thought that would have been right down his alley.

Reply to  3¢worth
April 14, 2016 12:28 am

+ many

JLC of Perth
Reply to  3¢worth
April 14, 2016 1:21 am

Yes, I remember it well. The interview did Suzuki the courtesy of assuming that Suzuki knew what he (Suzuki) was talking about. It soon became clear that Suzuki didn’t. The interviewer seemed astounded and so was I.

DCA
Reply to  3¢worth
April 14, 2016 6:20 am

Do you have a link to that interview? I’d like to see it.

AB
Reply to  DCA
April 14, 2016 7:08 am

UK Sceptic
April 13, 2016 10:18 pm

Mann is off the chart. I’m sure there are a few unbinables that could also inhabit this uncharted territory. Personally I’d give it the label “unprecedented hubris (it’s worse than we thought)”.

GregK
April 13, 2016 11:06 pm

What an amazing list of authors…..almost all of them with their snouts in the public trough.
They all require a good kick in the Bayesian posterior and be told to go out and get a real job

Seth
Reply to  GregK
April 14, 2016 12:50 am

What an amazing list of authors…..almost all of them with their snouts in the public trough.

Science for the public good is like that.

They all require a good kick in the Bayesian posterior and be told to go out and get a real job.

Why don’t you get a PhD in a relevant field, a decade or so of good postgraduate research, be one of the very best in the field, and land a permanent job in academia, then apply for one of their jobs?
That’ll show them.

Reply to  Seth
April 14, 2016 1:01 am

OK, anonymous “Seth”, what’s your CV?

david smith
Reply to  Seth
April 14, 2016 3:27 am

Science for the public good is like that.

What? Science for the public good necessitates grant-troughing? What a ridiculous thing for you to say!

Reply to  Seth
April 14, 2016 7:35 am

I would but academia as a field for me is out of the question.
I don’t qualify because I’m not a Socialist or a Communist and therefore I’m automatically DQed.

April 13, 2016 11:39 pm

It makes me ill just to read this new paper by Cook. Have these people no morals what so ever?
But hey, If these are the rules of the game by which we are allowed to play, then I would like to play too.
I dug up all the papers on “the pause” that I could find.
There are 64 papers explaining the pause.
The Karl et al paper explained that there never was a pause.
I conclude from this, that of publishing climatologists with a sub-specialty in “the pause”, 64/65 or 98.5% clearly state that there was a pause, and so Karl et al is wrong.

Reply to  davidmhoffer
April 14, 2016 2:24 am

#CookedLogic
How to bake a climate change cake.
Make your cake mix and pop into cold oven, wait 45 minutes, adjust 45 minutes of oven temperature record by +175 degrees
Allow it cool and serve with modeled fruit or cream

Reply to  davidmhoffer
April 14, 2016 7:37 am

+

James Bull
April 13, 2016 11:40 pm

Sorry but as soon as you said there were no X I thought of this….

The late great Two Ronnies.
James Bull

Reply to  James Bull
April 14, 2016 12:33 am

James, these two guys were absolutely priceless, RIP

Reply to  James Bull
April 14, 2016 4:16 am

Love it. R.I.P. 2 R. N. E’s.

April 14, 2016 12:46 am

I have discovered the REAL cause of AGW… it’s PILTDOWN MAN!!

JLC of Perth
April 14, 2016 1:24 am

As a true blue Australian, I would like to add Tim Flannery to that chart. He should be rated as high on the Fraud axis and low on the Expertise axis.
He seems to have gone quiet lately. Perhaps he was feeling a little embarrassed about his repeated, wild, and wildly inaccurate predictions. If so, there is hope for him because he has some sense of shame.

Bulldust
Reply to  JLC of Perth
April 14, 2016 6:59 pm

Flannery made A$180,000 per year for part time work as the Climate Commissioner under our previous left-wing government. JLC is spot on. He has made countless failed climate predictions, like the famous “So even the rain that falls isn’t actually going to fill our dams and our river systems…” one might remember the disastrous Brisbane/Queensland floods which happened not long after.

david smith
April 14, 2016 3:25 am

I cannot believe Seth is on here trying to defend that ridiculous ‘graph’ with its x-axis displaying how weally, weally good they are.
If I was going to take it at all seriously (which is difficult) it just tells me that the so-called ‘experts’ are the ones who are completely wrong about the CAGW nonsense as they are foolish enough to believe so strongly in the fairy-story with its failed models and busted predictions (has anyone seen those 50 million climate refugees yet?)
Right, I’m sure Seth is going to reply to me by insisting that because I don’t have a PhD in Clim Sci I can’t possibly be expected to understand the graph and therefore shouldn’t be allowed to pass judgement. Sorry Seth, it doesn’t take a vet to spot a dog-turd.

Marcus
Reply to  david smith
April 14, 2016 4:16 am

..Little Seth is desperate for attention !

Dodgy Geezer
April 14, 2016 4:39 am

Has anyone noticed how the ‘Expertise’ axis can be replaced with a ‘Dependency on Climate Change for Pay’ axis, and still remain accurate…?

April 14, 2016 4:49 am

where’s tim flannery? he has made some of the most outlandish statements in the past such as “there will never be enough rain to fill our dams again” etc. he makes a hell of a lot of money out of climate change.

M Courtney
April 14, 2016 5:58 am

Mods. Please look out my reply to Seth from about three hour ago..
It’s disappeared into the aether.
But I think my comment added something to the discussion of how to use bar charts.
Thanks.

April 14, 2016 6:53 am

An outlier is the first stage of an out-and-out-liar

jsuther2013
April 14, 2016 6:59 am

Instead of relative expertise, one could label the x-axis relative stupidity, from seriously stupid to mildly stupid. It could well have been labelled as a climate ignorance indicator.

observa
April 14, 2016 7:20 am

Not fair! They’re cheating. The rules of Battleships demand where you have multiple Destroyers, Battleships, Cruisers, Submarines, etc then they have to be adjoining each of their own. Only the Aircraft carrier is free to be on its own and they’re cheating even more with their extra Rowboat, Frigate and whatnot. They’re making it up as they go along. Cheats! Cheats! Cheats!

Brian M
April 14, 2016 9:31 am

On a scale of 1 to 10 I give this post a logarithmic 36.8 degrees NNE and put it just above 6 Newtons of refraction.

Not Chicken Little
April 14, 2016 11:49 am

I watched the David Suzuki interview which AB posted above. Wow. Not even knowing the data sets a questioner referenced, yet just brushing them aside as if they were nut job outliers. Talk about “willful blindness”! By his own criteria he should be brought up on charges and jailed. But, as he says, he “hasn’t really thought it through” about the consequences and implications of jailing people for their free speech utterances. Others have thought it through, fortunately (most thinking adults by the time they are no older than, oh, 22).
He’s just another empty suit. Why are there so many empty suits in the “catastrophic Man-caused climate change” field? Why does anyone listen to them at all? Rhetorical question.

April 14, 2016 3:18 pm

I suppose there are no “error bars” because then there wouldn’t be room for graph?
PS Putting Mann out there in the “Ozone” and Anthony’s “[warning graphic content]” were my favorite parts.

Pamela Gray
April 15, 2016 7:24 pm

ummm. Where is the graphic content?