Add another one to the huge list of excuses for “the pause” in global temperature. Reader “Al Gorez” emails:
The climate alarmists have come up with a brilliant new excuse to explain why there has been no “global warming” for nearly 19 years: the satellite data is lying.
And to prove it they’ve come up with a glossy new video starring such entirely trustworthy and not at all biased climate experts as Michael “Hockey Stick” Mann , Kevin “Travesty” Trenberth and “I’d be tempted to beat the crap out of Dr. Pat Michaels” Ben Santer. (All of these paragons of scientific rectitude feature heavily in the Climategate emails) See more at Breitbart here.
Riiight. Because we all know how reliable their preferred surface temperature measurements are, as illustrated by these examples from NOAA’s USHCN climate monitoring network:
Those and hundreds of other stations have been encroached upon by heat sinks and heat sources. And, the proof is in the fact that when you get rid of all the garbage temperature monitoring stations like those shown above (which comprise about 90% of the US monitoring network) and use only the unperturbed stations that don’t have biases that need corrections applied, what you are left with is a lower trend:
Comparisons of 30 year trend for compliant Class 1,2 USHCN stations to non-compliant, Class 3,4,5 USHCN stations to NOAA final adjusted V2.5 USHCN data in the Continental United States
What an act of desperation by these politically oriented climate proponents. NASA GISS, an agency founded to do planetary studies in support of the Apollo program, that should be making use of satellite measurements based on NASA’s strategic plan which has shifted heavily to remote sensing (notice that picture of Earth from space on the cover?), still uses this high polluted, highly adjusted surface temperature data…for one reason only: it supports their narrative, and when their narrative is flowing, so does the funding. I’d wager that NASA GISS would be pretty much out of business due to funding cuts if that hadn’t reinvented themselves after the cancellation of the Apollo program and many other missions in the 70’s and 80’s. They just weren’t needed as much.
Stay tuned, there’s more to this story coming. The full transcript of the video follows (h/t to Monckton):
Here is the video from the “Yale Climate Connections”
Transcript of How reliable are satellite temperatures?
Senator Ted Cruz [described in onscreen text as “Climate Denier”, displaying the graph below, shown onscreen in the video]: According to the satellite data, there has been no significant global warming for the past 18 years:
Dr Michael E. Mann, Pennsylvania State University [The following four terrestrial-temperature graphs, from GISS, HadCRUT4, Japan Met and Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature series respectively, were shown on the video for 1-2 seconds each]: When the full data are available, we will find that 2015 was the warmest year that the globe has seen as far back as we have reliable records.
Dr Mann [continuing]: And what’s ironic is, it’s really those satellite datasets that critics like John Christy hold up, that Ted Cruz was emphasizing in that Senate hearing a week ago …
Senator Cruz: The satellite data are the best data we have.
Dr Judith Curry, Georgia Tech: We need to look at the satellite data. I mean, this is the best data that we have.
Dr Mann: It is those datasets that are subject to the most adjustments – that have historically been found to have been biased, um, actually in the direction of too little warming.
Sinclair: For a decade during the 1990s and early 2000s, climate skeptics John Christy and Roy Spencer argued that their reading of satellite data showed no atmospheric warming … even a cooling. Finally, a series of studies showed that satellite data was not being correctly interpreted. The problem was friction. Even hundreds of kilometers above the Earth, atmospheric friction slows satellites down and they lose altitude. Every year they were falling about a kilometer closer to the Earth. To derive the temperature, scientists need to know the correct altitude, and without that the results were distorted.
Santer: For many years John Christy and Roy Spencer claimed, based on their analysis, that the lower atmosphere was actually cooling. They were wrong. They had gotten, literally, the sign wrong in adjusting for the effects of satellite orbit drift on the sampling of Earth’s large daily temperature cycle.
Sinclair: In addition, this meant that a satellite that started off measuring the temperature at 2 in the afternoon in a few years was measuring at 6 in the evening, making it look like temperature was cooling, when it had not. Although chastened by their repeated mistakes and failures, Spencer and Christy remain very active in questioning the mainstream science of global warming.
Spencer: I can tell you as a temperature monitoring expert, in 50 years we won’t be able to see the effect.
Limbaugh: I got a note today from our official climatologist, Dr Roy Spencer.
Christy: The regulations being established will do nothing to alter whatever the climate is going to do.
Trenberth: When they made corrections they were still underestimated, and they managed to do that at least three times, I think, which was unfortunate.
Dessler: So what does a satellite actually measure? A satellite doesn’t measure temperature: it measures radiance, which means it measures basically photons of energy that the atmosphere is emitting: in fact, what it really measures is a voltage on some detector, and from that it has to infer radiance, which is these photons, you know, that are coming out of the atmosophere.
Schneider: The problems that these photons are emitted not just from the – from the oxygen atoms as in proportion to their temperature but from the surface, from thick clouds, at different elevations.
Dessler: … and then from that they want to derive temperature. How do they do that? Well, they use a model. Now, they don’t call it a model: they call it a retrieval algorithm. But it’s a model. If you look at the history of the satellite data, the model that has been used has been shown repeatedly to be wrong.
Titley: Dr Christy and Dr Spencer, when they put this out, they have been wrong, I think, at least four consecutive times. Each time the data record has had to be adjusted upward. We used to have a negative trend, and then we had no trend, and now we begrudgingly have an upward trend.
Dessler: I don’t want to bash them, because everybody makes mistakes, and I’m going to presume everybody’s being honest, but I would just point out that – imagine the howls we would get if my model predicted it was warmer at night than during the day: you would hear people on the other side just screaming bloody murder: “How can you believe this? It’s, ah, these people are incompetent. How could you possibly believe this model that has the wrong sign of the diurnal cycle in it? The physics is obviously all screwed up.” But of course you don’t hear anybody talking about that with the satellite data. It goes to show you the amount of confirmation bias that’s actually going on in this debate.
Cruz: The satellite data are the best data we have.
Curry: We need to look at the satellite data. I mean, this is the best data that we have.
Dessler: That these people would accept the satellite data completely uncritically because it tells them what they want to hear …
Cruz [displaying the graph below, shown in the video]: You asked about the source of the data on the right chart: it’s actually not Dr Christy’s data, it’s the Remote Sensing Systems – the RSS – data that is up there.
Dr Carl Mears [keeper of the RSS dataset]: I guess it depends on which graph exactly you’re talking about. One of the ones that Senator Cruz likes to show actually uses the data that I make, which is a measurement of the temperature of the middle troposphere over time. The entire dataset actually starts in 1979 and goes to the present. But he probably likes to focus on the part really after 1998. He starts at that time for a very specific reason. And that’s because there’s a huge el Niño then, in ‘97/98, which puts a huge spike in the global temperature. And of course if you start at the top of a hill and you start driving you’re going to go downhill at least in the beginning, and that’s kinda the effect we’re seeing here. You start your time series at a place when it’s really high and it’s pretty easy to get no warming, or even cooling, if you do that.
Titley [at the Senate subcommittee hearing, 8 December 2015]: Ah, 1998, big el Niño, so it’s kind of interesting we start at 18 years: we don’t look at a 15-year dataset or a 10-year dataset or a 20-year dataset. We look at an 18-year dataset.
Cruz [replying to Titley]: I fail to see the significance …
Titley [The graph below is shown in the video]: Senator, it’s not. If you take up that top really big spike and you take that out you start getting the upward bias. And this is what people do when you start looking at these relatively arbitrary times, is you start with a really high number at the left-hand side and that kind of influences your – your, basically, your linear trend:
Titley [continuing: the graph below is shown in the video]: So, when you start looking at things like every decade, you have an upward trend in the data:
Mears [the graph below is shown in the video]: I think the longer the time period you look at the better, and if you look at the longer time period then you get a better idea of what the overall trend is. Senator Cruz focuses on one dataset (mine) from one type of instrument (satellites) and he ignores all the other evidence: for example, the surface temperature record …
Mears [continuing: the graph below is displayed in the video]: … you know, things like the Arctic sea ice declining …
Mears [continuing]: … things like the time of year that plants flower or leaf out or whatever.
Santer [the graph below is shown in the video]: … an increase in the amount of water vapor in the atmosphere, changes in sea level …
Santer [continuing: the graph below is shown in the video] … changes in the heat content of the global ocean …
Mears: All those things he’s ignored, and he’s just kind of glomming on to this one piece of evidence that supports the story he wants to tell.
Santer: Scientists are looking at moisture, at rainfall, at water vapor, at surface humidity, at the cryosphere, at snow and ice, and all of this is telling an internally and physically consistent story, and that story is, the planet is warming and, despite our best attempts to see whether natural causes can explain that warming, they can’t.
Peter Sinclair [Voice-over out of shot, to Mears onscreen]: Now, you were recently – er – doing some fact-checking for the Daily Show, is that correct?
Mears: That’s correct.
Sinclair: What did they want to know?
Mears: They just wanted to know, you know, they wanted to fine-tune their statement about, you know, whether , you know, the surface temperatures are more accurate or the satellite temperatures are more accurate, and initially they wanted to say something like “But you really shouldn’t trust the satellite temperatures, you should go with these surface temperatures”, and I said, “Well, what I would like to emphasize, you’d really want to look at all the different datasets, so you don’t want to trust only the satellite temperatures, you want to look at the surface temperatures, and – and that sort of thing.
Sinclair: OK, er, has Senator Cruz called you for any fact-checking?
Mears: No, he has not.
Sinclair: OK.
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There are two types of pseudoscience, distinguishable by the following assumptions:
1) Valid science is indicated by consensus
2) Valid science is obvious
The first tends to be associated with people who are politically liberal.
The second tends to be associate with people who are politically conservative.
Very often these two groups are at odds with each other on a particular issue. But when it comes to undermining the credibility of science they play for the same team.
About ten years ago I confronted the “settled science” of global warming. My examination revealed it as plainly inept. That brought me to wonder if there were not other, deeper, ineptitudes. I found myself examining the foundational assumptions of meteorology and, deeper still, core issues regarding the physical chemistry of H2O. And then I made a discovery:
BREAKTHROUGH: Hydrogen Bonding as The Mechanism That Neutralizes H2O Polarity
https://goo.gl/Hrb6Sb
They should throw out all data, agree on a single method of measurement that does not require adjustments and start over. This is wild guesses substituting for real data. No one knows, or even cares, as far as can be seen, whether the data is adjusted or made-up (they call it “interpolation”) as long as it shows what they want to find. However, the data is so bad I cannot see how any legitimate scientist can use the data. Different instruments, proxies up the eyeballs, conjectures at past climates and then claiming you can tell the average temperature of the globe has increased by .02 degrees. It’s simply insanity. Yes, there will be occasional adjustments, done at the time of the reading or soon thereafter, but when adjustments become the data, science has ceased to exist in any of this.
Either because they’re idiots, or it’s intentional.
The proof is in the data that the change in Co2 isn’t causing any measurable increase in temperatures.
And of course real idiots wouldn’t be clever enough to lie this well.
If regulations are passed then our pockets are picked clean the average temperature of Earth will decline…in fifteen years?
Look at the proxies.
We had record Great Lakes ice extent over a few recent years. The raw data says these years were much colder than average. The adjusted data says they were close to average.
CO2 does not affect the melting point of ice.
This is something we need to harp on: it’s irrefutable, easy enough for anyone to understand, and trivial to replicate.
Note — I am talking about Great Lakes temperatures above, not global or US temperatures. The AGW promoters are literally claiming Great Lakes ice coverage is not driven by Great Lakes temperature.
Indefensible and this point should be shoved into their flaccid defenses often and vigorously.
Dave are you suggesting the people get the government they deserve? Good and hard?
— Apologies to H. L. Mencken
I took a picture from my father’s news paper article collection (he does not do internet), from a letter to the editor by a scientist to German FAZ news paper:
It also talks about adjustments. The good Dr says:
There are 0.038% CO2 in the air.
Out of that, 96% is produced by nature, 4% by humans.
So those 4% CO2 are 0.00152% of the entire atmosphere.
Germany’s contribution to the human made CO2 is 3.1%.
Therefore, Germany’s influence with CO2 on the atmosphere is 0.00004712%
He says: “with that, we (the Germans) want to take a lead role in the world. That costs us 50 billion (Euros) in taxes.”
Now, the adjustments I am talking about are of course those to our tax bill – can you explain that? Because the few percent we want to knock off of our CO2 output of that already minuscule contribution make literally no difference, have no effect – and that costs 50 BILLION every YEAR. See, nobody denies climate change, not even Monckton – so please stop already calling people deniers. It is a straw man. People are questioning the efficacy of what you are doing with all the money… so now, please explain that adjustment to me.
After seeing that cover picture so many times, had to scroll down and comment that it reminds me of effusive production of a certain barnyard greenhouse gas.
Except, the surface measurements do show there is no warming because of a loss of night time cooling. And they do so since 1940.
If there really is warming (the majority from land use changes (just measure asphalt and nearby grass on a sunny day with an IR thermometer), it’s because things got warmer, but it’s not because of Co2.
Everything else done with surface temps is trash or intentional obfuscation.
Everything needed to provide proof of this is in this document.
https://micro6500blog.wordpress.com/2015/11/18/evidence-against-warming-from-carbon-dioxide/
Don’t take my word, I’ve made the code and all of the resultant processed data available in links in the url.
Many of you quibble over the same nonsense for years, years.
Feel free to prove me wrong, by showing all of the lines of evidence I provide are somehow wrong.
Mosh has blamed it on that I don’t normalize station weights, but don’t look at my results as a global average, it isn’t. Mosh think just saying it’s wrong somehow makes him right, it doesn’t.
It’s an average of the derivative (as well as anomalies) from multiple points over some defined area. I do multiple different sized areas, including global, but I do as small as 1 degree by 1 degree as well.
Lastly some areas in the larger analysis areas are “over represented”, but that is only because with more stations in a single area we know the uncertainty of that area better than other less sampled areas, and isn’t that how it should be?
Or you can keep arguing over the same stuff for a few more years…………
Ya know Micro? I’d just like to say that for my part, the science is settled. The debate is over. I’d like to go home and raise cattle now. There’s no catastrophic anthropogenic global warming and I wish I’d never learned to spell anthropogenic. My spell checker can’t even spell anthropogenic. Whatever happened to real threats? Nazis? Nuclear War? Toenail fungus? I’d just like to rest now. My adrenals are finished, I don’t even think I could survive another soft core beer commercial…
And for that outrageous rant, I had to await moderation. What in god’s name has the world come to?
Seems the post in moderation disappeared. So I only got part of it in email, butI too would just as soon let the science work it’s way forward.
Except the morons got in bed with those wanting to revert the world, at least for normal people back to the 19th century. And that just annoys me.
If I wanted to live like a hippy in a commune, I’d have joined one out of High School, I want the world of the Jetson’s, not the flintstones.
there it is….
[micro & Bartleby, sorry about the delay. WordPress puts some comments into moderation hold. They’re approved now. Keep on keeping on… -mod]
One criticism of the satellites made by Sinclair is that they show cooling because they start off “measuring at 2 in the afternoon in a few years was measuring at 6 in the evening.” I do not understand what he is talking about, but in any case, if there is such a place there should also be one where they start off at 8 AM and end up at 12 noon. THAT would show HEATING. Since it circles the whole Earth, his argument would cancel out giving zero effect to first order.
It’s sad to see the name Yale associated with this thing. It’s ad homenin and the technical arguments are weak. However, I am not sure it will catch up with them. More and more people are believing this drivel and look at Paul Ehrlich: a big Stanford prof even after being spectacularly wrong.
None of the [… ‘BS’] above matters one bit. not the math, not the science, not the statistical analysis, not the data – corrupted or not….
What does matter is the corruption, greed, and lying of these so called climate change scientists, the UN, governments and pols and bureaucrats. Lets face it you all have been caught lying, stealing, cheating over and over again in so many ways and so many places….avoid salt, use salt, avoid eggs, eat eggs….water is safe, water is unsafe, climate change is bad….[snip] you cant predict the weather in three days let alone in 10, 50 or 100 years.
This is about money, power, control. Go fuck yourselves….the day the world falls apart….I suggest you run and hide….you will be held to account.
If I understand this correctly, these nonexperts in satellites are saying that for 20 years the experts in satellites were wrong and that these Climate Scientists, Not Satellite Experts, are suddenly smarter and better than the experts in the field and we should listen to them. Wasn’t that why they said doubters were wrong—they weren’t experts? So, if I follow this correctly, a bunch of guys who demand peer-reviewed articles by experts in the field are asking us to believe them, the nonexperts, because they know best? So now we can believe the doubters, too, it seems, because they may know best.
I don’t think Carl Mears qualifies as a non-expert. He produces the RSS of which Lord M is so fond.
Hmmmm. Words thrown carelessly may come back round and bite the ass of the thrower hard enough to make them shut up. One must carefully approach criticism of research published by colleagues. Yes, one may say “mistake”. Yes, one may say “statistical issues”. Yes, one may say the data does not support the conclusion because of this or that. Yes, you may say that correctly done research in the past is now wrong. But to say that another researcher has lied? That would be libel that will end in court. Two results happen. One, the accusation appears to be valid and research articles are removed, along with even a license to practice. Two, the accusation appears to be not valid and coinage is exchanged.
So, question. Did one or more of these climate scientists accuse another scientist of lying about the satellite data? If so this thread needs to explore that.
It looks like Peter Sinclair (AKA Greenman Studio) is the Lili Riefenstahl of the Turd Reich, creating videos that inspire people to viscerally dislike anyone who doesn’t believe malicious disinformation in the service of decarbonization is morally justified.
Is there no copyright restriction against cutting and pasting congressional videos for propaganda purposes?
Some might think it somewhat hypocritical that the video is apparently funded by Jeremy Grantham’s hedge fund, 2015 stock assets of which included over $1B in Philip Morris and $400M in Chevron and Suncor.
Carl Mears is in a real pickle. His fellow alarmist climate scientist buddies are basically calling all his work total shite but instead of telling these bozos to go F! themselves his ideology forces him to deflect by giving the usual disingenuous answer about the 1998 El Nino driving the pause while completely ignoring the impacts of the La Nina periods just before and after the 1998 upwards spike. The actual total effect over this period works against the pause as can be seen by looking at the trend from 2000 onward where it is actually negative!
“Dessler: So what does a satellite actually measure? A satellite doesn’t measure temperature: it measures radiance, which means it measures basically photons of energy that the atmosphere is emitting: in fact, what it really measures is a voltage on some detector, and from that it has to infer radiance, which is these photons, you know, that are coming out of the atmosophere. [sic]”
This argument is invalid. It’s the pot calling the kettle black.
So, what does a tree ring measure? Biologists use tree rings as proxies for precipitation. Climatologists claim tree rings as proxies for temps. Which is really invalid – using a single proxy for TWO completely unrelated qualities. You can’t read both out of one proxy.
AND TO BOOT, the tree rings don’t have signs on them that say, “25.4°C”. THOSE have to be manipulated considerably by algorithms in order to generate temperature values.
When I moved into my current home, that first summer we planted 10 blooming pear and 10 blooming crab apple trees, all the same size, 2 of them within about 25 feet from each other, one of these is about 25% smaller dia of the biggest one, and most are within 5-10% of the biggest. Most are smaller due to reduced water, but the smallest is reduced because of too much water.
All have the same temp and rain, so unless you actually know why the trees are different sizes, tree rings are a rather worthless proxy.
+100
This shouldn’t be so hard. Tropospheric temps follow directly from surface temps, and OLR at the ToA follows directly from tropospheric temps:
It’s always been like this. It’s not something that all of a sudden changed abruptly around 2005.
If you for some reason choose not to ‘trust’ the lower two, then you better trust CERES EBAF ToA Ed2.8 …
HadAT2 (radiosondes) vs. UAHv6:

HadAT2 (radiosondes) vs. CERES OLR:
Carl Mears’s critique about starting the trend at the top of the hill (El Niño 1998) doesn’t hold. Let’s pick the trend starting from 2001 until today: http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/rss/from:2001/to:2016/plot/rss/from:2001/to:2016/trend
That trend also shows cooling!
Well they would say that when it’s increasingly obvious they can’t rely on Stevenson Screens, now wouldn’t they?
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/turnbull-governments-plan-to-make-cities-cooler-and-greener-20160118-gm8fdz.html
So-called climate science is an odd thing. Apparently, our knowledge of orbital mechanics is so poor that the satellites measuring global temperature can drop an extra kilometer or so each year before anyone even notices — but at the same time, our satellites measuring sea level are in orbits so well documented that we can measure changes of global average sea levels to within a fraction of a millimeter over the course of a year.
Inconceivable! (And yes, I DO know what that word means.)
Though there has been no global warming during the pause there has been global warming during the pause. Contradictory conclusions can be drawn from the associated argument as under the definition of “the global warming” that is used in reaching the conclusion of this argument “the global warming” in a given interval of time is multi-valued.
Terry Oldberg on January 20, 2016 at 8:14 am
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Terry Oldberg,
I would think that ” ‘the global warming’ in a given period” is undefined so can be anything. The problem is not multi-value, rather it is non-identity.
John
Dr Spenser discusses this Satellite Data Measurements in this Video Clip:
https://youtu.be/QowL2BiGK7o?t=27m25s
This video clip highlights the corruption of the locating of the temperature stations, and other issues.
https://youtu.be/QowL2BiGK7o?t=24m27s