Author Russian Presidential Press and Information Office
Guest essay by Eric Worrall
h/t DailyCaller – Russian President Vladimir Putin has stated that he thinks the Western climate scare is a fraud, designed to restrain industrial development in countries like Russia.
According to the New York Times;
While Western media have examined the role of rising temperatures and drought in this year’s record wildfires in North America, Russian media continue to pay little attention to an issue that animates so much of the world.
The indifference reflects widespread public doubt that human activities play a significant role in global warming, a tone set by President Vladimir Putin, who has offered only vague and modest pledges of emissions cuts ahead of December’s U.N. climate summit in Paris.
Russia’s official view appears to have changed little since 2003, when Putin told an international climate conference that warmer temperatures would mean Russians “spend less on fur coats” while “agricultural specialists say our grain production will increase, and thank God for that”.
The president believes that “there is no global warming, that this is a fraud to restrain the industrial development of several countries including Russia,” says Stanislav Belkovsky, a political analyst and critic of Putin. “That is why this subject is not topical for the majority of the Russian mass media and society in general.”
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Putin’s scepticism dates from the early 2000s, when his staff “did very, very extensive work trying to understand all sides of the climate debate”, said Andrey Illarionov, Putin’s senior economic adviser at the time and now a senior fellow at the Cato Institute in Washington.
“We found that, while climate change does exist, it is cyclical, and the anthropogenic role is very limited,” he said. “It became clear that the climate is a complicated system and that, so far, the evidence presented for the need to ‘fight’ global warming was rather unfounded.”
Its difficult to know what impact Putin’s overt skepticism will have on the Paris climate meeting. The meeting is reportedly already in a lot of trouble, because even our economically illiterate leaders seem to be balking at the prospect of borrowing money from China, so they can gift the principle they just borrowed back to China as climate development assistance, then repay the loan back to China a second time, with interest.
To his credit Putin has no qualms about yanking the chain of climate obsessed Western Politicians. During the recent G20 conference in Australia, when asked why there was a fleet of Russian Warships just outside Australian territorial waters, the Russian embassy replied the ships were there to research “climate change”.
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Just a week ago, Putin called Obama, “Mush for brains.” or something to that effect. Vlad plays master chess while Barack plays marbles. Obama appeals to his fellow ideologues, so used to lying, it’s their new normal.
John Kerry is trying to out-propaganda Russia’s old propagandists, jetting world wide.
Al Gore has dug in his high heels, jet setting world wide spawning tiny, brainwashed MiniGore’s, soon, in ant-like fashion- spreading their mass hysteria to dark places.
Having grown up during the 1950’s when showing any support for the Soviets could have gotten you labeled a commie and when some considered fluoridation of water a pinko plot, you can imagine the discomfort I feel being aligned on the same side as the bear. But it is what it is, even though I still wouldn’t trust Putin any further than I could throw one of his 500 pound barbells.
Putin certainly makes Oblama look like a professional idiot !!!
Climate Change is Fraud
…climate scare is a fraud…
I think the headline of this article should be corrected.
Climate change never was a scare or a fraud.
Climate has always changed.
I second that motion. Eric Worrall seems to have coined a powerful new mantra: “Climate Scare is a Fraud“!
I don’t think we’ve seen those exact words uttered in print before. I think it could become a useful catch phrase to counteract the impact of the “climate change” meme, which has been very effective in recruiting new believers of CAGW.
The title of this post should respect the quoting of Eric’s words.
The post above seems to claim that Putin is somewhat skeptical of climate change. But this view seems to be entirely based on the views of analysts and critics who claim to know Putin’s private views. I don’t think Putin has ever stated this skepticism out loud (if indeed those are his private views).
Rather doubtful, actually, because Putin just addressed the U.N. a few days ago, promising to study and take action against the problems caused by изменением климата (“by climate change”).
http://lifenews.ru/news/162533
Putin said: “We propose to establish under the auspices of the UN special forum where comprehensive look at the problems associated with the depletion of natural resources, habitat destruction, climate change. Russia is ready to become one of the organizers of the forum”
So, publicly, Putin is not a skeptic. Please don’t quote this post post as “proof” that Putin is a climate skeptic. He’s not.
But I still like Eric Worrall’s new slogan: “Climate Scare is a Fraud”!
😐
When you compare Putin with Obama……
Putin continues to act as the only sane world leader. He fights isis while usa and nato continues to aid the terrorists with ammunituon, money, intelligence (the military kind wich is the exact opposite of ordinary intelligence) and weapons. And all western media condemn both isis and Putin. No doubt media will come down hard on Putin if he speaks out against the global warming scheme. I know Putin is probably an honest man because all politicians and media of importance in Sweden hate and depise him. There is no greater praise to be honored with in my estimate.
At this point in time, on a continuum from total collectivism (totalitarianism always follows) to total freedom (e.g. the anarchy of centuries in Ireland) we find today Russia is much closer to the freedom end of the spectrum than the US Empire. Russia (USSR) used to be a total police state but no longer is one. The US Empire is now assuming that role as the world’s foremost police state and moving towards totalitarianism by leaps and bounds.
Putin is very popular in Russia, and one reason may be that he is trying to look out for Russia first. It would be darned nice to see some US politicians trying to look out for the USA rather than trying to run the whole world. (ah, but that is a pipe dream now that Empire has taken us over)
~ Mark
Russia has emerged to save the Middle East, Africa, and Eurasia from the social activists; Europe, America, South America, etc. from the refugee crisis; and now science and the scientific method from people with a god-complex.
Thus Russia’s recent insistent that the Climate Conferences follow their own rules. The conference rules require that the position adopted by unanimous. However, what happens in reality is quite different. The chair asks “anyone opposed?”. A bunch of nations indicate they are opposed, but the chair fails to acknowledge them. Instead the chair calls out “none opposed, motion carried”.
This is what happened in Bonn recently when the US led chair tried to remove the section on reparations. The US wants everyone else to cut emissions, but doesn’t want to have to account for their own historical emissions. The US wants a get out of jail card for itself, while locking everyone else up for the future.
However, the developing nations along with China and Russia are having none of it. They know Obama will pay anything to get his legacy, and so they are going to hold the US feet to the fire in Paris. And Obama will pay, to get the most expensive legacy in history.
“This is what happened in Bonn recently when the US led chair tried to remove the section on reparations. . . . However, the developing nations along with China and Russia are having none of it. They know Obama will pay anything to get his legacy, and so they are going to hold the US feet to the fire in Paris. And Obama will pay, to get the most expensive legacy in history. . . . .”
That’s what happened in the TPP negotiations recently: the US folded at the last minute on its demand for 8-year patent-protections for certain important pharmaceuticals, agreeing to the demand by Australia and others for a 5-year period. That deal was also important for Obama’s legacy.
Putin is right, we have had steel plants close here in the UK.
Not only that, but Russia is becoming a world leader in nuclear power plant production:
http://globalriskinsights.com/2015/10/russia-is-creating-a-global-nuclear-power-empire/
“Over the past five years, Rosatom (Russia’s state-owned nuclear vendor) has quietly cornered the market in nuclear energy, systematically seeking out agreements and contracts with roughly 30 nations interested in the installation of nuclear power plants (NPPs).
Thus, Russia’s nuclear power diplomacy has penetrated the international stage in an already significant manner. Countries that have signed on to Rosatom nuclear agreements span across all regions of the world, and include strategically significant players such as Argentina, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey.
As of 2014, 29 Russian reactors are planned for construction abroad, and Rosatom predicts that the number will grow to around 80 within a “few years.””
The irony is that Putin’s professional forbears planted the seeds that destroyed the Normal-American scientific culture that repulsed scams for 2 centuries.
The Comintern’s covert influence program, begun in the 1920s, inserted the anti-Normal-America message into our culture that has grown into Politically Correct Progressivism.
The “blame rich white capitalists for everything” message found its most fertile ground in the “global warming is caused by capitalism” movement.
But be sure that the efforts of PC-Progs are not limited to just destroying our economy with the global warming scheme.
The destruction of Normal-American culture continues apace, on all the fronts laid out by the PC-Prog belief system: “America is a racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, imperialist, capitalist hell-hole. And it must be changed.”
http://intelctweekly.blogspot.com/2014/07/politically-correct-progressive-belief.html
The irony continues when Pravda is a truthful source of news; and the PC-Prog American media (ABC, NBC, CBS, NYT, WaPo, CNN, etc) are the grim purveyors of the PC party line.
Right now where I am the price of gas is down to $2.19. And 45 cents of that is tax. All the bloviating aside, nobody’s going to be the least bit motivated to move to “alternative” energy while fossil fuels are more affordable. Most people also now realize that the AGW issue is political, since the climate has demonstrably not followed the modelling.
The media is making a push because of Paris, but this time no one is listening. They just aren’t getting any traction, except maybe with the 3% of the upper middle class progressives who wring their hands over ANYTHING and compete to be more PC than their neighbors. The rest of the country, indeed the world, has already moved on.
in sweden gas is almost 6 dollar per gallon, most taxes, of course a huge chunk is carbon tax.
Is that per gallon or liter?
“no one is listening. They just aren’t getting any traction, except maybe with the 3% of the upper middle class progressives ”
Not true–all the Democratic candidates are on board fairly forthrightly, and hundred (s?) of thousands paraded for climate action in NYC a few months back.
Goldrider-
You obviously are not in Canada where CBC radio is pushing the Paris conference and the like for all they are worth. Likewise our print media.
I presume that the story is much the same everywhere else.
Ian
Environmentalists and people who care about the well being of the poor should both be very angry at what their political leaders have done with all that political capital.
If AGW was not a scam, they could have done some good, instead of grabbing for loot with carbon credit trading schemes and subsidies for uneconomical crony energy scams. They could have reduced waste, encouraged conservation and allowed nuclear power.
The AGW propaganda created a lot of political power based on the support of well meaning, naive low-info types. Imagine if we had:
– taxed fuel used for private jets
-quit shipping raw materials and coal to the far side of the world, and products back.
– reduced speed limits – big fuel savings on the highway, and smaller cars more popular
– saved the nat gas for vehicles, no power plant replacement, no sun/wind backup gen
A lot could have been done which costed less than the benefits. Instead they increased the cost of energy and grabbed for the loot.
Yes. When pre-war Germans of Hitler’s ilk co-opted the popular nature-loving sentiment of the citizens, thus turning their environmentalism into a political entity, they wrote the play book for our modern so-called environmentalists.
The Green movement.
Almost makes me want to believe in climate change. Almost.
I don’t give a **** what Russian president thinks. But certainly if climate change was invented to ruin something, it was invented by Russians to ruin West.
Chinese weapon !!!
Putin is a thug, but he is also one smart cookie who can play Obama and the West, like a fiddle. He must have read Machiavelli, and Sun Tzu. I cannot help but admire the man and wish we had ruthless leaders like him in the West.
Um, look at who leads us…not the puppets but the thugs who control our media, political parties, etc. Thug City! Visit Wall Street to take a peek at a few of these creatures.
Hard to believe that Russia is the free worlds last best hope at defeating the socialist parasites that have infected the Earth !!! What a f#cked up world we are living in !!
How could we know that Mars ice caps were also shrinking in concert with our northern ice cap over 10years ago and just ignore it? NASA recorded it and the troughers dug up other possible causes!!! and laid it to rest. The MSM, of course, has been silent on this irrefutable fact.
http://news.heartland.org/newspaper-article/2005/11/01/mars-warming-nasa-scientists-report
“NASA’s findings in space come as no surprise to Dr. Habibullo Abdussamatov at Saint Petersburg’s Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory. Pulkovo … Heading Pulkovo’s space research laboratory is Dr. Abdussamatov, one of the world’s chief critics of the theory that man-made carbon dioxide emissions create a greenhouse effect, leading to global warming.
“Mars has global warming, but without a greenhouse and without the participation of Martians,” he told me. “These parallel global warmings — observed simultaneously on Mars and on Earth — can only be a straightline consequence of the effect of the one same factor: a long-time change in solar irradiance.”
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/story.html?id=edae9952-3c3e-47ba-913f-7359a5c7f723
This is an Einsteinian finding and we are letting proponents of this egregious dishonesty get away with it. No wonder they jack the temperature records around with impunity when the greatest falsifying experiment of this science is being played out before our very eyes. Putin knows he is dealing with idiots. I do believe science is also be preserved by Russia – it is still a sacrosanct part of their culture- and Post Abnormal Stupidity will never get a foothold there.
PS: I speak a bit of Russian and Saint Petersburg seems like a good place to retire.
PSS. I don’t speak Russian and St. Petersburg still sounds like a good place to retire !!! Sad !!
I speak a bit Russian, I was two times in Saint Petersburg , lived two years in South Russia but I want to retire to the Black Sea area with my russian wife.
JJM, I wish you a good luck.
Putin is criticized as a criminal and a thug; for his venture into Ukraine I would agree.
Putin is criticized for “propping up” Bashar al-Assad by Obama, but our President says the US should never have deposed Saddam Hussein. Why is one tyrant acceptable and another not? He criticizes Bush for the same moral choice he has made; the only difference being Bush acted on his choice and Obama is too fearful of acting on his.
On CAGW Obama has made the immoral choice. CAGW is based on a falsified hypothesis, yet he persists to build a “legacy” that will ultimately prove him a fool. He will increase poverty throughout the world denying tens of millions access to energy, and as a result; food, water and shelter, all with the Popes blessing.
Indeed the world is upside down.
Russia intervened in Ukraine following a violent, Western-backed coup.
Syria (Libya, Yemen, etc.) did not invade a neighboring nation and then following removal refuse to comply with the terms of the ceasefire.
CAGW is constructed with a quasi-science that replaces deduction with induction, evidence with models/estimates, reproduction with consensus, assumptions/assertions of uniformity, and frames of reference far exceeding the scientific domain.
You say: “Russia intervened in Ukraine following a violent, Western-backed coup”.
The west did not intervene militarily, it was an internal matter.
You say: “Syria (Libya, Yemen, etc.) did not invade a neighboring nation and then following removal refuse to comply with the terms of the ceasefire”.
Both Saddam Hussein and Bashar al-Assad perpetrated horrific crimes upon their own people and those of other nations. Libya and Yemen are two more foreign policy failures of the Obama administration but I did not mention those.
GTL:
The West backed a violent coup in Ukraine. The regime change in Ukraine was not simply an internal matter.
Hussein invaded a sovereign nation. Assad is one of many examples of people who committed “horrific crimes”. Mandela committed horrific crimes to claim South Africa. Gandhi committed horrific crimes to secure India’s independence. Obama committed/commits horrific crimes as a social activist. Gosnel, Cecile, etc. commit horrific crimes in aborting and cannibalizing over one million wholly innocent human lives annually.
@n.n
You say “The West backed a violent coup in Ukraine. The regime change in Ukraine was not simply an internal matter”.
Russia intervened militarily at which point it was not just an internal matter any longer. The coup was executed by Ukrainians, not the “West”
You say; “Hussein invaded a sovereign nation”. / “Assad is one of many examples of people who committed “horrific crimes”.
I am not disputing this.
You say; “Mandela committed horrific crimes to claim South Africa. Gandhi committed horrific crimes to secure India’s independence. Obama committed/commits horrific crimes as a social activist. Gosnel, Cecile, etc. commit horrific crimes in aborting and cannibalizing over one million wholly innocent human lives annually”.
I was pointing out the different paths taken by two presidents taking similar moral positions. Why is any of this relevant all be it factually incorrect.
Gandhi committed horrific crimes? Can you be specific? You believe Gosnel and Cecile are cannibalizing aborted babies?
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>>Russia intervened in Ukraine following a violent,
>>Western-backed coup.
Simplistic and naive.
Ukraine hates Russia, always has, always will. Why do you think they greeted the Germans during WWII with roses? As did the Baltic States. In fact, in 2005 the Latvians raised a large memorial to the Waffen SS, because they were so grateful to be rid of Russian domination and oppression in the 40s. But the EU told them to take it down again.
During the USSR era, Russia engineered the destruction of the Ukrainian kulag farmers, creating a famine that killed tens of millions. They then repopulated Ukraine with Russians. And then they claimed this was Russian land. Standard tactic for Russia. They did exactly the same to Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania, and to Georgia with South Ossetia.
So the political divisions in Ukraine have been deliberately engineered by the USSR and Russia over the last century. And then they claim that all of Ukraine wants to be Russian, just as they did in the Crimea recently. But in reality that is the last thing Ukraine wants, which is why western Ukraine went to the EU for political and financial assistance.
Ralph
ralfellis,
It’s pretty clear that many European countries think they’re just playing a friendly game with Russia:
http://americandigest.org/sidelines/adefenseministers.jpg
>>It’s pretty clear that many European countries think
>>they’re just playing a friendly game with Russia.
LoL, LoL, LoL. Those pics sum up the Russia I know perfectly. For all their many faults, you have to admire the Russians for being a no-nosense, pragmatic and practical people.
You forgot a pic of the (unelected) EU foreign minister, Katherine Ashton. Commonly known as “the 33a from Picadilly Circus”. Aston was a former CND treasurer, and was accused on many occasions of taking slush money from the former USSR. So yes, she is a real patriot. /sarc
Ashton is a feminist, as you might expect. But when she met the Iranian minister he refused to shake hands with her, in front of all the media (because she is a woman). Did she complain about this overt discrimination? Did the media make a fuss? No. If a right wing politician had done such a thing they would have collectively screamed the house down, but as usual the Middle East gets a free pass on everything they do.
http://www.enational.ro/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/ashton12-479×500.jpg
CAGW is an intelligence test.
Putin is not stupid.
Very few of our western leaders seem to see the world as it is.
They seem to be fixated on how they hope the world could be.
Realism with a vision of the future is fine.
Ignorance of the state of the world,human nature and your own finances, while spending like crazy on your retirement, is insane.
By this standard, Putin is sane.
Putin for president!
If the presidential election were held today Vladimir Putin would be my write-in candidate.
1. Borrow money from China
2. Give the money to China for climate development assistance (whatever that is)
3. Repay the loan back to China with interest.
If I was China I would definitely be pushing the climate change agenda. Except internally I wouldn’t call it climate change I would call it, “Free money from dumb-asses in Washington” .
Who do you think started it !!! CHINA !!
Just in the interest of accuracy, the headline here to Eric Worrall’s essay is misleading. Perhaps Mr. Putin has said somehwere that climate change is fraud, but I couldn’t find anything like that in the NY Times article cited by Mr. Worrall.
“The president believes that “there is no global warming, that this is a fraud to restrain the industrial development of several countries including Russia,” says Stanislav Belkovsky, a political analyst and critic of Putin.
[…]
During a trip to the Arctic in 2010, Putin acknowledged that “the climate is changing”, but restated his doubt that human activity was the cause.”
— NY Times
Reading comprehension problem ????
Punctuation problems?
If Putin uttered the words “Climate change is fraud,” please provide source and link. The word “fraud” appeared once in the NY Times article, as I quoted it above, but the speaker was Stanislav Belkovsky, not Vladimir Putin.
Hoist by your own petard.
>>Perhaps Mr. Putin has said somehwere that climate
>>change is fraud, but I couldn’t find anything like that
What do you not understand about the phrase: “The president believes that there is no global warming, that this is a fraud”? Putin must have said this, otherwise Belkovsky would not know about it.
I don’t see your problem.
R
ralfellis
October 30, 2015 at 11:33 am
What do you not understand about the phrase: “The president believes that there is no global warming, that this is a fraud”? Putin must have said this, otherwise Belkovsky would not know about it.
Some logic! Putin must have said it, else Belkovsky wouldn’t know about it. Of course, everyone knows that the NY Times would never bend the truth, but did you miss the part about Belkovsky being a Putin critic?
And more to the point, do you still not comprehend the simple fact that global warming and climate change are not the same thing?
Putin acknowledged that “the climate is changing”, but restated his doubt that human activity was the cause.
Do you see those quotation marks? Their presence means we can be reasonably sure that Putin has said “the climate is changing.” That being the case, it seems unlikely to me that he would also say “Climate change is a -f-r-a-u-d-,” but I’m willing to be convinced if you can provide a citation where Mr. Putin uttered those words.
There is no dispute that Putin seems to be a CAGW skeptic. The issue is journalistic accuracy and integrity.
@ralfellis
Except that Belkovsky is a big critic of Putin and has published a lot of sensational stories about him. So I’m guessing he has never met Putin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislav_Belkovsky
@Steve P
I think I found the report where Putin was quoted on this.
http://www.energytribune.com/5769/putin-no-battle-for-arctic-energy-riches
Not surprisingly, the NYTimes got the context wrong. It wasn’t “During a to the Arctic in 2010”, rather Putin was attending an conference in Moscow about the Arctic. The reporter, Peter Glover, wrote this about Putin’s “agnostic” stance on climate change:
So it seems to be true that Putin really did express some “skeptical” beliefs about climate change, as late as 2010.
Would he express those same beliefs in public today? I think not.
As Hillary would say, he has “evolved”.
Let’s be clear, both Obama and Putin are dishonest men who lie to the world and their own people to further their selfish political aims.
That said, the two men approach Global geopolitical problems at ver different intellectual levels. Putin approaches the geopolitical cat and mouse game as a master chess player at a chess board with many potential moves and opponent counter moves considered. Obama approaches the geopolitical problems with the intellect and skill of an 8 yr old to a game of tic-tac-toe. Then he whines like an 8yr old school mama’s boy everytime Putin drubs him and gives him a super-wedgie.
ALL politicians are dishonest !!! Most of them are / were lawyers after all !!
We used to called it an “Atomic Wedgie”.
This was when the underpants were pulled completely up over the back of the head of the victim, and then pulled back down the top of the forehead to hold them in place.
* See illustration below:
http://socialmediaseo.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/atomic-wedgie-technique.jpg
From the article: “While Western media have examined the role of rising temperatures and drought in this year’s record wildfires in North America, Russian media continue to pay little attention…”
This opening line contains so much that makes me want to throw up. Western media have most certainly NOT investigated what they claim to. If they did they would notice that land use is a huge factor in wildfires. They would also have noticed that we are in a large El Niño, and that in fact, America shows no warming trend over the last generation. Instead of examining, Western media have replaced observable facts with whatever the journalists imagine to be true. To then chastise someone else for not doing a similar “examination” is just disgusting. What a perversion of journalism.
Disgraceful.
Record wildfires?
What???
They are claiming that 5.5 million acres burned is a record.
The lies are getting bigger and are now completely divorced from reality:
http://realclimatescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/2015-10-30-11-17-37.png
I noticed that too.Western media has done zero investigation, they read the propaganda as it is handed to them.
The CRU emails AKA Climategate, are a gold mine for an investigative journalist.
Yet here in Canada the “Media” first ignored it, then played squirrel with it.
Environment Canada is another cesspit just waiting for proper investigation, yet few taxpayers have even heard of the $65 million theft, by the last director.
We have fully bought up Presstitutes.
They lie to us, we hate them for it, they wonder why their profits are plunging.