Guest essay by Eric Worrall
The LA Times, which frequently expresses strong support for climate alarmist themes, has printed an article expressing skepticism of Governor Jerry “Moonbeam” Brown’s attempt to link global warming to Californian wildfires.
According to the LA Times;
Gov. Brown’s link between climate change and wildfires is unsupported, fire experts say
The ash of the Rocky fire was still hot when Gov. Jerry Brown strode to a bank of television cameras beside a blackened ridge and, flanked by firefighters, delivered a battle cry against climate change.
The wilderness fire was “a real wake-up call” to reduce the carbon pollution “that is in many respects driving all of this,” he said.
“The fires are changing…. The way this fire performed, it’s not the way it usually has been. Going in lots of directions, moving fast, even without hot winds.”
“It’s a new normal,” he said in August. “California is burning.”
Brown had political reasons for his declaration.
He had just challenged Republican presidential candidates to state their agendas on global warming. He was embroiled in a fight with the oil industry over legislation to slash gasoline use in California. And he is seeking to make a mark on international negotiations on climate change that culminate in Paris in December.
But scientists who study climate change and fire behavior say their work does not show a link between this year’s wildfires and global warming, or support Brown’s assertion that fires are now unpredictable and unprecedented. There is not enough evidence, they say.
University of Colorado climate change specialist Roger Pielke said Brown is engaging in “noble-cause corruption.”
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Even in a warmer world, they say, land management policies will have the greatest effect on the prevalence and intensity of fire.
Read more: http://www.latimes.com/local/politics/la-me-pol-ca-brown-wildfires-20151019-story.html
I personally think it is disgusting that the Governor appears to be using local tragedies to promote his political agenda. A better use of the Governors time might be listening to and acting on the advice of fire experts, rather than seizing on photogenic disasters as a PR opportunity to promote his scientifically unsupported political agenda.
Last year, Brown made a claim that the Los Angeles Airport would be inundated by sea level rise and need to be moved, a story immediately refuted in WUWT as nonsense, and followed by a retraction story in the Los Angeles Times. If this keeps up, we might have a skeptical newspaper in Los Angeles.
I remember when I was a kid in New England, you could run through the forests and never come home with a “tick”. Everywhere there were either controlled burns or burn barrels on the farms and homes.
Go take a walk in the woods now, go home and count the guests. Odd I think CO2 has effected the “ticks”. They have become bigger blood suckers, and Morphed into “Politicians” and “Climate” Scientists.
michael
They are linked to Pacific cooling.
Thank goodness we stand a chance of breaking the drought this rainy season, owing to a warmer ocean (but for how long?).
Governor Brown would have derived excellent advice from one of my school teachers,
“It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear a fool rather than open it and remove all possible
doubt”
Time to downgrade him like they did with Pluto……. Dwarf Governor Brown
Unfortunately, this happens a lot: climate is the last thing politicians worry when they take actions regarding climate change. It’s both ironic and true and it seems this situation happens in most of the fields linked in any way to the climate. Many of them don’t even make the difference between climate and weather and don’t understand what climate change really means. I would suggest them to take a look here and learn a few basic things in this field: http://oceansgovernclimate.com/is-climate-science-a-monster/.
Mr. Worrall:
Are you aware that the LA Times was the first major news outlet to put in place a policy of not publishing letters from “climate deniers?”
If you’re expecting them to be an honest player on the subject, you should probably pull up a chair and get comfortable while you wait…
That’s why it’s so refreshing. When the alarmists are willing to call out their own side, it shows that they are at least starting to be willing to listen to reason.
You’re thinking of a time way back in the day before alarmists suffering from the toxic effects of CO2 in their drinking water even coined the term ‘climate deniers’; you know, before they were blown off the edge of the planet by these ever-increasing hurricanes. I think we were mere flat-earthers or deniers before the warmists developed a real appreciation of the threat of a 0.8 C temperature increase since 1880. This is climate psyence; factual accuracy is mandatory.
I’m aware of that 🙂 – so its fascinating that they criticised this climate claim.
It is fascinating. There must be some other overriding factor at play. It’s unfortunate newspapers aren’t exemplars of the openness and transparency they demand of others. Then we could just ask how this article squares with their editorial policy…
What does a fire need to start / burn? Remember the ‘fire triangle’. A fire needs Oxygen, fuel and a source of ignition / heat. No Govenor not a fraction of a degree more heat, something really hot, like a lit match.
Lightning strikes are the number one fire starter mechanism.
And very low humidity.
Brown is as DUMB as Biden when it comes to facts
I hope those two are never in the same building at the same time.
That much stupid in one place at one time could form a rip in the space time continuum.
Much of California is covered in types of trees and plants that only reproduce with fire. Also, in my home town of Santa Barbara, idiots built their houses on the mountains behind the city, then prevented frequent yearly fires to burn the chapparal back. The problem was, these shrubs needed to be burned back at least every couple of years or they would grow so large that when the inevitable fire happed, the fire would have far more fuel than normal and burn at a far higher temperature that would turn the bushes to ash instead of just scorching them, this in turn meant there would be nothing to hold the soil in place, and when it eventually rained, everything came tumbling down the hillside. If you build in areas that have frequent fires naturally, you are screwing with the local ecology when you prevent that from happening because of a goddamn vacation home.
Nothing against vacation houses, but you build in a stupid place, you pay the price, same for fools who park their houses on the edge of loose soil cliffs in Santa Monica or on the sandy beach front property.
Then there is the reality that California has quadrupled in population over the last 65 years. Plus there are drifters all over the state, who make camp where ever they feel like until they are chased out. They seldom obey any rules, and their bad habits reinforce reckless/thoughtless behavior.
Bingo!
Dead right, CFT. The practice of building homes within two maximum tree heights is also only done by greenhorns, for reason of leaves, limbs. and whole trees falling on inhabitants etc.; light and wind optimisation. As well as avoiding a roasting.
I thought CO2 was used in fire extinguishers. But apparently Jerry Moonbeam thinks it makes fire juke and dance like Barry Sanders. What a jackass.
This man is a major figure in Democratic politics. A man of respect, not a far out left winger ranting in the wilderness.
Think about that.
Here is what I think: The Democratic party is beyond hope.
The Californian Democrats rebelled against Governor Brown recently. http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/09/12/californian-climate-mutiny-democrats-side-with-republicans-to-defeat-jerry-brown/
Some other leading climate skeptics are left wing.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/10/12/freeman-dyson-democrat-supporter-climate-skeptic/
Don’t judge the entire Democrat party by the current shower of Democrat leaders, thats what the leaders want you to do, they want to divide and conquer.
The last thing the current leadership of the Democrats, and possibly some of the RINOs in charge of the Republican Party want, is for people to reach across party lines, to defeat their lucrative climate madness.
Will wonders never cease? But Enquiring minds want to know whether this is because the editorial staff of the LA Times actually did some independent research, or because the paper has taken a general dislike to Governor Brown for other reasons? The former would be tremendously encouraging, but I suspect the latter is the more likely scenario.
EPA and Oblama chicken out of attending Senate hearing on Glo.Bull Warming !!!!
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/10/19/republican-epa-obama-hearing/
Many thanks to all.
I actually had tears in my my eyes from laughing at some of the comments. I’m sure a standup comedian could come up with a whole show, based on just some of them.
Even though wildfires can be terrible things, a little humour on the subject of their cause is not out of place.
Cheers.
I truly think Alzheimer’s has come to Moonbeam. He’s losing rationality. Some of his statements/actions are becoming bizarre.
Something Jerry Brown says is nonsense? Wow, I’m shocked, shocked.
It would be more news if Jerry Brown said something that was not nonsense.