A lot of us look at the actions of climate change alarmists and wonder how what would seem to be educated people can justify their own actions given the way they sometimes behave. Personally, I often wonder if they aren’t just so off-the-rails that they end up becoming like the “crazy cat lady of climate” in Australia who spends most of her waking hours digging in her own virtual cat litter for nuggets to expound upon, to prove that somehow “climate deniers” are bad and that climate alarmists are good.
Dr. Judith curry has an interesting post about the editor of Science, she writes:
Here is a clear-cut example of advocacy by a scientist, Marcia McNutt, who also happens to be the Chief Editor of Science: The beyond-two-degree inferno. Read the whole thing, its only about 600 words. I cite here the passages that I particularly want to comment on:
The time for debate has ended. Action is urgently needed. The Paris-based International Energy Agency recently announced that current commitments to cut CO2 emissions [known as Intended Nationally Determined Contributions (INDCs)] from the world’s nations are insufficient to avoid warming the entire planet by an average of more than 2°C above the preindustrial level. To set more aggressive targets, developed nations need to reduce their per-capita fossil fuel emissions even further, and by doing so, create roadmaps for developing nations to leapfrog technologies by installing low-CO2–emitting energy infrastructure rather than coal-fired power plants as they expand their energy capacity.
I applaud the forthright climate statement of Pope Francis, currently our most visible champion for mitigating climate change, and lament the vacuum in political leadership in the United States. This is not the time to wait for political champions to emerge. Just as California has decided to go it alone, every sector (transportation, manufacturing, agriculture, construction, etc.) and every person need to do whatever is possible to reduce carbon pollution by conserving energy, adopting alternative energy technologies, investing in research, and capturing CO2 at the source.
In Dante’s Inferno, he describes the nine circles of Hell, each dedicated to different sorts of sinners, with the outermost being occupied by those who didn’t know any better, and the innermost reserved for the most treacherous offenders. I wonder where in the nine circles Dante would place all of us who are borrowing against this Earth in the name of economic growth, accumulating an environmental debt by burning fossil fuels, the consequences of which will be left for our children and grandchildren to bear? Let’s act now, to save the next generations from the consequences of the beyond-two-degree inferno.
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Re the Dante Inferno allegory. Digging In the Clay has an interesting and entertaining post Climate Scientists Road to Hell:
But there is another road to hell for climate scientists and editors of journals and professional societies, that involves
- Appeal to authority
- Absence of doubt
- Intolerance of debate
- A desire to convince others of the ideological ‘truth’
- A willingness to punish those that don’t concur
That last bit is something I have to deal with; it happens mainly because WUWT is so successful and reaches far more people [than] most of the alarmist blogs out there. I and others who dare to question the “consensus” get the “slime and punishment” every day. I wear it as a badge of honor, because if WUWT wasn’t effective, they wouldn’t bother.
As far as the way they use the knowledge they have (that they feel superior about) goes, I’d say that alarmists are “model” citizens, all. It reminds me of a Faustian bargain, whereby Faust traded his soul to the devil in exchange for knowledge and power.
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The question is; is the knowledge acquired worth anything? And will the power they assume they have over others due to this knowledge stand the test of time?
We’ll find out soon, because nature just isn’t cooperating. Hence, they have the need for adjusting reality to fit the bargain. And, it seems the Pope’s encyclical, our modern example of a Faustian bargain, isn’t making much of an impact beyond the already converted.
In somewhat related news, I’ll have an anti-Faustian announcement this week. Stay tuned.
UPDATE: I get word that there will be yet another “blockbuster” paper published this week that will attempt to explain “the pause”. From what I make of it, it is an attempt to explain the “missing heat” using “spooky action at a distance” in the oceans. Watching the entanglement will be hilarious.
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Anthony, you, and the rest of us unwashed heathens, will be made to care:
http://thefederalist.com/2015/07/06/the-new-totalitarians-are-here/
I hope this is not redundant; I did not read all the comments.
Willis E. wrote an open letter to Dr. McNutt and it was published here at WUWT on Aug 4, 2013.
McNutt’s climate activism pseudoscience has long been on display during her tenure at Sciencemag at Editor-in-Chief. Once history is written on this chapter of Western Civilization, she and her pseudoscience ilk will get a bashing for their perverse rationalizations of the noble cause corruption they represent.
and will change her opinion not at all. [snip]
I though Dr Curry was too busy setting up a fund to buy air-condtioners for people in hot climates.
1.Appeal to authority
2.Absence of doubt
3.Intolerance of debate
4.A desire to convince others of the ideological ‘truth’
5.A willingness to punish those that don’t concur
This is a description of Dr Curry.
Dr Curry has a bad case of projection. She “jumped the shark” a long time ago. I do not understand why a professional scientist has allowed herself to become an attack-dog.
You wanna insult Dr. Curry, harry? Then I say verbal pistols at 20 paces, you and me. You are the kind of guy she and others have been talking about. The only projection here is yours and yours alone. You are a cretin if you want to insult a responsible scientist like her. When I read some of the true believers like yourself here and elsewhere, there is no question in my mind that these five points come to mind. As they did the first time I saw Al Gore show the hockey stick in An Inconvenient Truth. I burst out laughing, because the first three points came out loudly in all of that hooey and blatant manipulation of statistical methods.
Larry in Texas .
Dr Curry forfeited her right to respect when she started slagging off Michael Mann, the IPCC and anyone else she disagreed with. She now has a lot of history of this kind of behaviour – go look it up.
Why mention Al Gore, he wasn’t a scientist. Do you see Al Gore in your dreams or something?
re: harrytwinotter July 7, 2015 at 2:59 am
If you do not understand why someone would bring up Al Gore then you either do not know who the major contributor to this scam is or you are being purposely evasive knowing you cannot defend the Gorester for his actions.
Climate Summit of the Americas, Toronto, July 7-9, 2015
Climate speakers at this event sponsored by the Ontario government include Al Gore and is by invitation only.
http://www.downloads.ene.gov.on.ca/files/climatesummit/CSA_SummitSpeakers.pdf
This week Toronto is hosting the Pan American Summit at the same Toronto hotel with speakers from North and South America.
Google for more information on both events.
March For Jobs, Justice and the Climate, Toronto, Sunday July 5, 2015
About 10,000 marched.
Special guests included Naomi Klein and Bill McKibben.
http://www.jobsjusticeclimate.ca/media
An event out ahead of COP 21 and the other two events taking place in Toronto this week.
I have no idea how anyone of those points describe Dr curry. I think Harry is offended by Curry’s climate “micro-aggressions.” She made the technical foul of having a backbone and not standing for unethical conduct. At the very least she is standing up for integrity of Science and against corruption of authority. If that is wrong I don’t want to be right.
Charlie.
“micro-aggressions.”
Is that why they call being a jerk these days?
With your absolutely outrageous comment, you have just provided an almost perfect description of the entire warmist movement. As well as demonstrating one of their favorite techniques – accuse the opposition of exactly what you are doing in order to camouflage yourself. An extremely low-life tactic, based on deception, group-baiting, and provocation. I’ll say this for you and your warmist ilk – you’re predictable and your hypocrisy is as absolute as it is without fail.
Joel Snider.
Dr Curry is now considered a joke by her peers.
Anyway as I said before she is irrelevant. She has exposed herself as a Republican and fossil fuel industry toadie.
Her next step will be to join the Heartland Institute or the UK GWPF.
harrytwinotter
If 25,000.00 dollars to one think tank one time for one research project is enough to “contaminate” forever that group’s research and conclusions as a fossil fuel toadies and tobacco junkies, how many government-paid self-called “climate scientists” will 92 billion dollars buy in three years? When government-paid self-selected scientists are paid and promoted to promote one theme and one religion to generate 1.3 trillion in CO2 taxes every year, why should we believe anything they have published when their own numbers contradict their tantrums and propaganda?
How did Marcia McNutt become head of the United States Geological Survey? How can someone who has held that position know so little about geological history? Is she a REAL geologist? Or just someone who plays with computer toys?
Recently I noticed a small sign of hope from Australia.
There’s an ad campaign for natural gas with the slogan
“Natural gas-make the connection.”
There’ve been quite a few of these ads over the last few years and they have always included the young guy featuring in them saying “…and it won’t cost the earth.”
The latest one doesn’t.
Dare I hope that this means enough people have complained about the CAGW implied in this?
Once you start seeing CAGW not being used to flog products, that indicates the beginning of the end, because it’s only ever been about money/power.
Early days with this reluctance to use it so far, of course.
” accumulating an environmental debt by burning fossil fuels, the consequences of which will be left for our children and grandchildren to bear? Let’s act now, to save the next generations from the consequences of the beyond-two-degree inferno.”
I am constantly amazed how much the alarmists care for the future generations but don’t give a hoot for the poor nor their children of today. The alarmists anti- global warming policies of today are harming the poor of today and their future generations :
• By denying cheaper fossil fuel energy to poor countries ,it may ensure continued poverty because they will be unable to afford the expensive renewable energies
• By forcing over stringent emission standards and high price for fossil fuels, it will encourage many nations to turn to ethanol and thus limit the corn available to feed the poor
• BY promoting carbon taxes or, cap and trade taxes ,, this will have the greatest effect on poor families as they will be least able to afford yet more taxes on their energies and goods
• By promoting renewables energies only ,this more expensive and subsidized energy will drive up the cost of electricity for all including the poor
• By forcing the poor to remain in poverty , They will be unable to raise their standard of living and continue to experience all the health, disease and social problems that they now have
It is amusing how many people go to significantly warmer climates for their vacations, and some even move to significantly warmer areas after they retire … yet they almost panic when told the average temperature has increased one-half degree C. in their lifetimes, and might increase a little more!
Canadians who flock to Hawaii and Florida for the winter ?
Anthony wrote;
“I and others who dare to question the “consensus” get the “slime and punishment” every day.”
Yes indeed, and it is not in any way deserved. You have raised valid questions that “believers” are not able to answer sans “energetic hand waving”.
As one who does not believe that the “Radiative Greenhouse Effect” controls the climate of the Earth in anyway whatsoever I get “Derision” as well, aka the “real” deniers. Who knew that there where classes of “deniers” ?
But no matter, the alarmists hypothesis has failed utterly, the lukewarmers hypothesis (the “saturated GHE”) has little merit and we are left with: “the GHE is not an EFFECT after all” hypothesis. Which is remarkably like the null hypothesis which folks well trained in scientific endeavors accept as the “reality” until extraordinary proof otherwise exists.
Good post Anthony, thanks.
Cheers, KevinK
Moderators:
Larry Wirth July 7, 2015 at 12:10 am
and will change her opinion not at all. These people need [trimmed].
[No. That’s not the answer, that’s not the method. .mod]
Mods, Larry Wirth said that. I was trying to draw it to your attention.
Chaotic discussion of chaotic a discussion of climate chaos brings larger chaos to the discussion.
CatholicCulture, July 8, 2015
‘US mayors to attend Vatican conference on climate change, human trafficking’, July 21, 2015
US mayors: Boulder (Colorado), Minneapolis, Portland (Oregon), and Seattle. Mayor of Vancouver, B.C. also slated to attend.
http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=25463
CBC News, Toronto, July 9, 2015
“Al Gore speaks at Climate Summit of the Americas in Toronto’
An invite-only conference.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/al-gore-speaks-at-climate-summit-of-the-americas-in-toronto-1.3144537
This event/conference sponsored by the Ontario government.
Ontario Ministry of the Environment and Climate Change is organizing a Climate Change Summit of the Americas July 7-9, 2015 Toronto, Ontario.
This event is available through invitation only.
http://www.ontario.ca/environment-and-energy/climate-summit-americas
Just in case additional information is required.
FCM/Federation Of Canadian Municipalities, June 7, 2015
‘Canada’s Big City Mayors make united call for climate action’
Scroll down to: Michael Bloomberg, UN Secretary-General’s Special Envoy to Cities and Climate Change, said “I applaude Vancouver’s Mayor Gregor Robertson for his leadership in passing it at the perfect time, as the World Summit convenes in France.”
The “it” above is the FCM Climate Resolution
Gregor Robertson is also a Board member of FCM.
Scroll down to page bottom for the PDF link to the actual “Resolution”.
http://www.fcm.ca/home/searchresults.htm?q=climate+resolution
Select the above article.
ICLEI, HQ Bonn, Germany, founded 1990
David Cadman, Vancouver, B.C. Pres. since 2007
FCM Canada is in a partnership with ICLEI Canada.
Mayor of Vancouver slated to attend Vatican Conference.
ICLEI Council North America includes:
Matthew Appelbaum, Mayor of Boulder, USA who is slated to attend Vatican July 21, 2015, Conference.
http://www.iclei.org/fileadmin/user_upload/ICLEI_WS/Gexcom_Files/ICLEI_Leadership_2015-2018.pdf
Google for more information on this subject.
USDN/Urban Sustainability Directors Network, Launched March, 2015
Carbon Neutral Cities members make up some of those who will be attending the July 2015 Vatican Climate Workshop.
For member list:
http://www.usdn.org/public/Carbon-Neutral-Cities.html. Also note the foundations supporting this organization.
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Corporate Knights, Posted May 20, 2015
Gregor Robertson helped found the Carbon Neutral Cities alliance.
http://www.corporateknights.com/channels/leadership/canadas-greenest-mayor-14321016
According to the USDN website, USDN is a project of the Global Philanthropy Partnership (GPP) Chicago founded 2003.
http://www.global-philanthropy.org
‘Sustainable’ is cripplingly sclerotic.
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