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Naomi Klein has been invited to attend a top level conference at the Vatican, to advise leaders how to fight climate change and dismantle capitalism.
According to The Guardian;
Naomi Klein and Cardinal Peter Turkson are to lead a high-level conference on the environment, bringing together churchmen, scientists and activists to debate climate change action. Klein, who campaigns for an overhaul of the global financial system to tackle climate change, told the Observer she was surprised but delighted to receive the invitation from Turkson’s office.
“The fact that they invited me indicates they’re not backing down from the fight. A lot of people have patted the pope on the head, but said he’s wrong on the economics. I think he’s right on the economics,” she said, referring to Pope Francis’s recent publication of an encyclical on the environment.
Release of the document earlier this month thrust the pontiff to the centre of the global debate on climate change, as he berated politicians for creating a system that serves wealthy countries at the expense of the poorest.
Activists and religious leaders will gather in Rome on Sunday, marching through the Eternal City before the Vatican welcomes campaigners to the conference, which will focus on the UN’s impending climate change summit.
Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/28/pope-climate-change-naomi-klein
The madness of this latest development, is Capitalism is the single most important factor which has made the wealth of rich countries possible. Dismantling Capitalism would not make poor countries rich, it would make rich countries poor.
As for non capitalist societies being better stewards of the environment, what a busted myth that is – if you want to see truly horrific levels environmental destruction, you need look no further than the old anti-capitalist Soviet Union, which is now practically a byword for pollution, inefficient use of resources, and environmental degradation.
It has been said that a person takes on a large part of the era ,influence and area they grow up in .
Considering the antics in Argentina for last 60 years should answers many thoughts about the pope .
The Pope sure is taken to task here.
http://thefederalist.com/2015/06/24/where-did-pope-franciss-extravagant-rant-come-from/
Wow!! Liberation theology or what?! Trade mark of the Jesuits.
Kim Kardashian would be a better choice. That would get Il Papa into all the women’s magazines alongside the shock/horror celebrity mob.
The Popes encyclical on climate change states,
“For poor countries, the priority should be the eradication of poverty and social development of their inhabitants;”
This sounds great on the surface, but by endorsing the alarmist agenda to fight global warming , the Pope may be endorsing policies that may have the opposite effect;
• By denying cheaper fossil fuel energy to poor countries ,it may ensure their continued poverty because they will be unable to afford the expensive renewable energies
• By forcing over stringent emission standards and high price for fossil fuels, it will encourage many nations to turn to ethanol and thus limit the corn available to feed the poor
• By promoting carbon taxes or, cap and trade taxes , this will have the greatest effect on poor families as they will be least able to afford yet more taxes on their energies and goods
• By promoting renewables energies only ,this more expensive and subsidized energy will drive up the cost of electricity for all including the poor
• By forcing the poor to remain in poverty , they will be unable to raise their standard of living and will continue to experience the health, disease and social problems that they now have
For someone claiming to be interested in helping the poor of the world Pope seems to be ill advised. I wonder if he understands what he is doing by endorsing the quite flawed alarmists ideas ?
So now we already have the actual agenda unmasked by the now clearly untrustworthy deceiver with an ulterior motive. Didn’t take long for the deception to show.
I think this ends the discussion on the Pope’s political leanings. Talk about an unholy union.
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Sorry… Reference to the Old-anti- capitalist Soviet Union (Akka Putin demonising) just blew the credibility of this author out the window .. I’m getting that fundamentalist puerile conservative bigotry ‘creep behind my ears’ feeling!!! Not withstanding my new hero, Naomi Klein!!!! (Ok the Pope as well!!)
You know, jasonmakeig, the short-circut, cluless-diode incoherence of your last comment has left me very concerned that you just might be a lost-memory victim of some unsavoury bunch (aren’t they always) of privileged-white-dork youth-masters, who typically seek out vulnerable, zits-and-booger-phase, can’t-get-a-date socially-incompetent “dumb-kids” and brainwash them so that they emerge from their hive pupa-hood as a lefty-cant-spewing hive-bot. So if your adolescent years fit the above profile, jasonmakeig, then I’d say that you definitely need help, big-time, ol’ buddy. But it’s your call, guy.
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Vatican rebuffs critics who say Francis isn’t a scientist
Cardinal Peter Turkson points out the pontiff can develop policy on climate. The U.S. conservative climate doubters aren’t scientists, either
Speaking at the launch of the encyclical, John Schellnhuber said everything in it “is in line with the scientific evidence. This is very gratifying.”
In his presentation, Schellnhuber illustrated how the earth has warmed over the course of history. He discounted as a “myth” claims that a growing population in the developing world is responsible for destroying the environment.
Addressing an issue that is particularly dear to the Vatican, since it gets into questions of birth control, he said: “This utterly wrong, actually. It’s not poverty that destroys the environment. It’s wealth, consumption and waste. And this is reflected in the encyclical.”
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2015/06/18/vatican-rebuffs-critics-who-say-francis-isnt-a-scientist.html
Expert calls the science behind the papal encyclical ‘watertight
“The science of Laudato Si is watertight,” said Hans Joachim Schellnhuber, founding director of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research.
http://www.cruxnow.com/church/2015/06/18/expert-calls-the-science-behind-the-papal-encyclical-watertight/
Encyclical Ghostwriter: Pope Francis ‘Did Not Intend to Canonize’ Scientific Theories
In a recent interview, Bishop Mario Toso, who co-wrote the first draft of the papal encyclical on the environment, Laudato Si’, denied that Pope Francis had any intention of “canonizing” scientific theories regarding climate change, but only wished to assert his authority on the moral level.
Toso, who was secretary of the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace at the time of the drafting of the encyclical, said that in the encyclical letter the Pope sought to offer “reflections on the anthropological and ethical issues” related to the care of creation, but that he did not wish to “impose” the results of scientific studies on anyone or to confer his moral authority on scientific opinions.
“Everyone knows that many opinions today considered ‘scientific’ are not irrefutable or incontrovertible,” he said.
“The Church has no competence on the technical and scientific level,” he said, “but rather on the anthropological and ethical levels that relate to scientific phenomenology.”
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/06/30/encyclical-ghostwriter-pope-francis-did-not-intend-to-canonize-scientific-theories/
I don’t see anything in the quotation from the Guardian which justifies the headline to this post.
This Pope should remember history. When the Communists took over in eastern Europe, they immediately persecuted the church – nad did nothing for the poor.
Naomi Klein and friends will use the Pope for what they want and then when they are in power they will persecute the church – and do nothing for the poor.
Why blame capitalism? Is the pope also suggesting we just do away with commerce itself? The publicly traded equity of capitalism is a boon to small scale investors and those who wish to save for a future date. Without capital markets, matters are totally in the hands of an upper class or tycoons. This is all coming from an institution that once endorsed and enforced divine right. Thank goodness for the reformation. The pope is a simpleton. The church has no answers. The political processes of democracies do.