Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Alarmists are busy recycling old debunked climate claims, in a desperate effort to build up momentum for the upcoming Paris climate conference.
According to the Sydney Morning Herald;
Glaciers in the Everest region could shrink at least 70 per cent or even disappear entirely by the end of the century as a result of climate change.
Researchers in Nepal, the Netherlands and France have studied weather patterns on the roof of the world and then created a model of conditions on Everest to determine the future impact of rising temperatures on its glaciers.
“The worst-case scenario shows a 99 per cent loss in glacial mass … but even if we start to slow down emissions somewhat, we may still see a 70 per cent reduction,” said Joseph Shea, who led the study.
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The IPCC, a group of scientists convened by the United Nations to warn governments around the world about the effects of climate change, was forced to apologise in 2009 for claiming that the Himalayan glaciers would melt by 2035.
The 2035 Glacier claim was presented, then hastily withdrawn by former IPCC head Rajendra Pachauri, who recently stepped down after being accused of sexual harassment.
The the fact that the rather transient IPCC position on glaciers was too silly even for the über green Guardian to defend, has not stopped other green journalist advocates from throwing it into the mix of absurd glacier claims, in the hope that something, anything, convinces the general public to care about climate change.

Think of the Yetis. Baby Yetis won’t know what ice looks like…
From the SMH article:
http://www.smh.com.au/content/dam/images/g/h/b/8/q/2/image.related.articleLeadwide.620×349.ghb8nf.png/1432770846728.jpg
As with Kim Jong-un’s North Korea, photoshop is clearly an important alarmist promotion tool.
That’s just a meltwater pond on top of a load of moraine covered ice. They can be very long lived features. There’s a circular one on the Gornergletscher above Zermatt in Switzerland that’s been there so long it’s on the maps:
http://www.panoramio.com/photo_explorer#view=photo&position=108&with_photo_id=1953050&order=date_desc&user=183535
The 2035 error was not a typo. The guy who exposed this error, a New Scientist journalist named Pearce who printed Hasnain’s claim initially after interviewing him, first suspected the mistake was the result of a typo from 2350 in a Russian report, and printed that. But a few weeks later he discovered, from tracking down the reference in the IPCC report to its ultimate source, that it had come, via New Scientist and the WWF, from an Indian scientist’s speculation, or horseback diagnosis. So his first guess, that it was due to a typo, has been superseded. Not even the IPCC uses that as an excuse.
Pachauri didn’t immediately retract the error when informed of it, despite what some comments near the top say.
Here’s a summary of the situation I posted here 3 or 4 years ago:
It was noticed first, but it was ignored for years, not only by the IPCC’s officials, but by the climatological community and environmental journalists. If it hadn’t been for the threat of online critics & a renegade journalist truly “outing” the situation (into the larger world), the coverup might (IMO) have continued. (See the boldfaced phrase below.) Therefore, the IPCC’s behavior was worse than a blunder–it was a crime. I.e., a bad-faith suppressio veri effort.
So Pierrehumbert’s characterization of it as a mere blunder is spin—at best. Below is a summary of the background of the situation that I posted (in separate comments) on WUWT at the time.
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It’s true that the error was dug out by Cogley, an IPCC accomplice, and by Fred Pearce, a red-hot warmist journalist who wrote for New Scientist, rather than by a blogger. However, saying the IPCC acted before the blogosphere put them up to it incorrectly hints that the IPCC would have taken action if it hadn’t feared that Pearce or Cogley would go public, perhaps via the bloggers, if a correction wasn’t made. The IPCC’s record prior to that point was one of denial and coverup as long as it thought it could get away with it:
1. Haisnain, the WWF, and I presume other IPCCers in attendance, ignored glacier expert Gwyn Rees’s 2004 UK-government-funded debunking of rapid-melting claims and his speech warning that Haisnan’s 2035 date was ridiculous. He forced New Scientist to publish a retraction in 2004 after it had published Haisnan’s claim that Rees’s study was alarmist about the melting rate, so this was widely known:
2. Raised-eyebrow comments during the review process from Japan and others about the source etc. of 2035 were dealt with perfunctorily. Only a citation of the WWF article was added.
3. Lead Author Georg Kaser’s e-mail to the IPCC’s technical support team prior to publication about 2035 was ignored.
Here’s the IPCC’s excuse for how it dropped the ball:
4. Lead Author Georg Kaser’s letter to Asia group head Dr. Lal was ignored. (Lal said in response that he never got it. A “likely story,” IMO.)
5. In early November ChooChoo scornfully dismissed the correction in the report issued by VK Raina of India’s Geological Survey, calling it voodoo science. Here’s WUWT’s thread on the matter then:
6. Later in November ChooChoo was informed about the error by Pavlia Bagla but he took no action. This is in line with the IPCC’s hear-no-evil precedents described above. Here’s a story by Andrew Bolt summarizing the matter:
PS: Don’t forget that the IPCC not only printed the wrong date, but backed it up by rating the likelihood of the glaciers disappearing as “very high”—i.e., more than 90 per cent.
Further, although all the experts except Kaser failed to try to get this corrected afterwards (too good a story to spoil?), this was not something that others overlooked:
Incidentally, the passage above continues with some interesting background material:
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PPS: Here is a piece of a letter to the London Times. It contradicts Wakefield’s proxy claim that the IPCC made a good-faith error:
Here’s another comment, on dot.earth, that indicates the great usefulness this 2035 “error” had for the alarmist cause:
And here’s a WUWT comment that’s another indication that it was “no accident” that the IPCC made the 2035 “error”:
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PPPS: Here’s more background info., from an earlier WUWTer:
More criticism of the good-faith-error defense:
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bubbagyro says:
June 18, 2011 at 12:50 pm
To sum up what Roger said, in a nutshell, it is the cover-up that attests to the seriousness of the crime.
D. Patterson says:
June 18, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Roger Knights says:
June 18, 2011 at 11:08 am
That’s quite a summary. Thank you for presenting it.
Thanks for that extensive summary.
I had done my own research at the time the 2035 claims was being discussed, searched back to the cites, which was tougher than it should have been, stumbled across the 2350 article, thought I found the smoking gun, but looked further and concluded that the 2350 was a weird coincidence. That article exists, but did not seem to be the source for the claim.
Had it simply been a typo, they might have recanted more quickly, albeit red-faced, but it took them some time, because it wasn’t simply a typo, it was “supported” albeit by papers that didn’t stand up to scrutiny.
Eventually, they had to recant, but it took time, probably because they realized how much they had hanging on this claim.
IPCC AR4 concluded that Himalayan Glaciers will melt by 2035. Then we wrote to the Ministry of Environment and Forests, Government of India countering this statement/conclusion based on the data — Geological Survey of India monitoring the Himalayan Glaciers says no melting and in the case of Gangotri due to fault zone disturbance it started melting/destruction and later it started recovering. On this Pachauri the then IPCC Chairman issued a note saying it is a voo-doo science. With mounting pressure at Copenhagen Summit in December 2009, IPCC with drew this conclusion and expressed regret for inclusion of such un-verified information finding a place in the report. Same was the case with Al Gore’s Greenland ice melt by five years. Unfortunately both received noble prize in 2008 for such poor quality reports and after withdrawal they did not return their award.
Dr. S. Jeevananada Reddy
Dr. Reddy,
Please write this up and send it to Anthony Watts using submit story.
Given that alarmists are recycling silly glacier claims, an authoritative insider account of events surrounding the 2035 glacier claim would be very interesting to readers.
Thanks,
Eric Worrall
Reblogged this on Public Secrets and commented:
Amazing. This claim was totally debunked, yet the Green Cultists are pushing it again. They must think the public has the memory capacity of an ant, or something.
This is NOT a recycled claim about 2035. The study, and the newspaper report about, make it very clear that the forecast is for the end of the century NOT for 2035. A lot can happen in 65 years. Did Worrall even read the article before posting this, or just see the “the Himalayan glaciers would melt by 2035”. At least read the whole article, then maybe try reading the paper.
Sorry, Sir every body knows the article prediction is for 2100 and not 2035 but the issue is not when but the issue is “scientific evidence”. See the observational data by Geological Survey of India. In the past few years several such reports were released to media. And received heavy snow fall.
Dr. S. Jeevananda Reddy
I myself have remained rather mystified by what came to be known as Glaciergate. How could world-class scientists possibly think it was OK to base any factual claim – never mind one this dramatic – on nothing more than a report written by activists?
Now things make a bit more sense. Chapter 10 may have had twice as many coordinating lead authors as the usual IPCC chapter (four rather than two), but even then it had less than half the brains. This is because two of its four top people have a cozy relationship with the WWF. They are members of its parallel panel.
Since coordinating lead authors Hideo Harasawa (from Japan) and Murari Lal (from India) were predisposed to view the WWF in a positive and benign light, it apparently wasn’t a big leap for them to regard anything that organization sets down in black-and-white as gospel.
http://nofrakkingconsensus.com/2011/09/29/glaciergates-other-wwf-connection/
Giant space moths could gobble the moon and vomit green goo all over the IPCC in 2020 due to AGW according to models.
Jbird May 28, 2015 at 5:10 am
They’re throwing anything they can grab at the wall and hoping something will stick. All of the current furor is obvious desperation.
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Snowsnake May 28, 2015 at 6:10 am
Hopefully not their underwear?
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LOLZ I know it’s off topic, but I first heard that phrase from a sorority girl I was dating waaaay back in the Early Jurassic.
If your underpants stuck after being thrown against the wall, it meant you had just returned from a very good date.
According to Bahuguna et al (april 2014) Are the Himalyan glaciers retreating?
from 2018 glaciers
1752 are stable,
248 are retreating and
18 are advancing
I am just back from a 3 week tour of Peru. Everywhere we went, the guides were telling is about glaciers melting, reducing water for agriculture and hydroelectricity (BBS story below). Does anyone know if this is true?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-30359091