Guest essay by Andi Cockroft
In a carefully orchestrated propaganda campaign that is actually flying very low under the radar NZ’s Ministry for the Environment is seeking Public Consultation on just what targets should be set heading into Paris.
The spin is already quite well established, since all the usual pre-conceived “CO2 is bad”, “renewables are good” memes are played out.
With mind-numbing adherence to IPCC doctrine, the documents and slick video presentations attached to the consultation website already lay down the idea that NZ must cut its emissions, with no mention of any supporting science as to why we should cripple our economy.
The earth is heating up (well no its not), sea levels are rising (well no more than they have since the mini ice-age) and mankind is doomed unless urgent action is taken.
So we have NZ’s Government already demonstrating pre-conceived ideas and then looking for Public Consultation to support that.
Here’s their video:-
…and their preconceived propaganda – a 20 page PDF here
Well, perhaps WUWT readers – and certainly the Kiwis amongst us – could deliver a different message to the one they expected.
Submissions must be in either online, or via email to climate.contribution@mfe.govt.nz by 5pm on 3rd June 2015
To read the whole thing, visit the MfE Website here, or simply complete an online submission here. Better yet, download a Word Document file that you can edit to your heart’s content here
Consultative meetings have already started, and I’m sorry I only became aware of these today
How to find out more
Public meetings and hui
Public meetings and hui will be held in the following cities. All meetings and hui are open to everyone. There is no need to RSVP.
| Date | Location | Venue | Type | Time |
| Wednesday 13 May | Nelson | Rutherford Hotel
27 Nile Street West |
Hui | 4:00 pm |
| Public meeting | 6:30 pm | |||
| Wednesday 13 May | Gisborne | Te Tini O Porou
Cnr of Tyndall and Huxley Roads |
Hui/Public meeting | 5:30 pm |
| Thursday 14 May | Invercargill | Ascot Park Hotel
Corner of Tay Street & Racecourse Road |
Public meeting | 2:00 pm |
| Thursday 14 May | Whangarei | Discovery Settlers Hotel
61 – 69 Hatea Drive |
Hui/Public meeting | 5:30 pm |
| Friday 15 May | Hamilton | Hotel Novotel Hamilton Tainui
7 Alma Street |
Public meeting | 2:00 pm |
| Monday 18 May | Rotorua | Copthorne Rotorua
328/348 Fenton Street |
Hui/Public meeting | 5:30 pm |
| Monday 18 May | Auckland | Copthorne Auckland City
150 Anzac Avenue |
Public meeting | 7:00 pm |
| Tuesday 19 May | New Plymouth | Copthorne Hotel Grand Central
42 Powerderham Street |
Public meeting | 11:30 am |
| Hui | 2:30 pm | |||
| Tuesday 19 May | Wellington | The Thorndon Hotel
24 Hawkestone Street |
Public meeting | 7:00 pm |
| Wednesday 20 May | Christchurch | Russley Golf Club and Function Centre
428 Memorial Ave |
Hui | 5:00 pm |
| Public meeting | 7:15 pm | |||
| Thursday 21 May | Dunedin | Kingsgate Hotel Dunedin
10 Smith Street |
Public meeting | 6.30 pm |
Contact for enquiries
You can also find out more by calling the consultation hotline (0800 678 345) or emailing climate.contribution@mfe.govt.nz.
MfE Proffer These Extra Sources:-
You might find the information listed below helpful when preparing your submission. You don’t have to read these; the discussion document provides the key information.
New Zealand’s greenhouse gas inventory 1990–2013 snapshot
A summary of New Zealand’s Greenhouse Gas Inventory 1990-2013
New Zealand’s Sixth National Communication (2013)
Includes current domestic policies and projected emissions out to 2030.
Other useful links
- United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change website
- What is an INDC? [World Resources Institute website]
- Other countries’ INDCs [United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change website]
- IPCC Fifth Assessment Report [Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change website]
I went to the Auckland meeting last nite ( conspiracy theorists might wonder that the venue was changed at the last minute to the Rendevous Hotel) .
I’d like to apologise to all realists – the meeting was so full of loudmouthed eco loons that completely shouted down the one brave guy who tried to point out the propaganda in the printout – that I chickened out from saying the same .
I can report that the ecoloons were in full flight with the general consensus being ( from speaker after speaker) that NZ must commit to reducing all emissions by 40% by 2020.
You gotta laugh .
I wanted to ask how – do they suggest killing very cow and sheep in NZ or banning cars and planes ??
The ignorance was gobsmacking .
One loon stood up and and said we should abandon all cows and only allow chicken farming – I kid you not .
I wanted to ask – how would she suggest we milk chickens to keep the economy from collapsing .
The “Professor ” stood up and said “when we get to 4degree warming ” blah blah .
I mean – 4degrees – where on any paper published anywhere does it even begin to look like we’ll ever get to 4 degrees warmer ??? What are the chances ??
Another professor stood up to point out Climate is changing and hurricanes , floods and droughts were so much worse thanks to global warming
Note : Floods and droughts .
I mean – what global warming ??? – there is none so how can it have caused any floods and droughts and surely a professor would take the time to read up on the subject before speaking – to discover there is no increase in any of these weather related events .
This is the complete rubbish being reguritated at these meetings .
II am a coward – sorry everyone .
Don’t feel too bad. I salute you for just turning up.
It had crossed my mind to go to the Whangarei meeting but the very thought of being alone in a room full of econazis turned my spine to jelly. Plus an hour’s drive each way holds no appeal.
I may be wrong about being alone, though. Provincial New Zealand, apart from the Coromandel, seems less enthused with the Greens than are central city types. Lord Monckton filled the top floor of the Okara Park rugby grandstand on a Sunday four or more years ago and packed out a smaller venue for a midweek meeting at the city library a couple of years later.
I’m interested to know how the meetings go in the smaller centres.
Yeah, lots of echo loons and shouting, weeping, emotion at last night’s Wellington meeting too. Crazy stuff being spouted. The venue was changed at the last minute to a nearby girls school due to numbers. A total fact free zone. Rational thinking and facts definitely not welcome
I went the New Plymouth’s meeting today. There were 23 members of the public in the room if I counted correctly. 21 on the side of ‘we need a bigger emissions target’, and 40% reduction by 2030 was proposed by the green MP. She sat next to me. There was only me and one other guy on the ‘we don’t need any emissions target’ side. The green MP put a vote to the meeting. It was obviously 21 to 2. The discussion went way off topic at times. Even into the psychological benefits of organic farming and gardening. Both me and the other guy were able to put our points to the meeting. But as others here have said, it was really a wasted effort.
I salute your bravery nzrobin , well done for speaking up .
This “discussion ” is turning into “ecoloon ” field days where they can all piss on each others backs .