Just what you’d expect from 3 decades of dangerous global warming
CBS Boston has published a story with photographs of giant Icebergs washing ashore at Cape Cod, many of them metres thick.
According to CBS Boston;
WBZ-TV Chief Meteorologist Eric Fisher says this could be a “once-in-a-generation” event due to the extraordinary amount of ice on the Massachusetts Bay. Fisher says the ice won’t be around for long.
There have been several remarkable images left from the record-setting winter, including the nearly frozen waves captured off the coast of Nantucket last month.
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/03/09/giant-icebergs-wash-ashore-on-cape-cod/
Meanwhile, the Boston Globe reports:
The beaches of Cape Cod are taking on an Arctic look, even as the temperature warms.
Months of bitter cold created huge sheets of ice that are now breaking up and washing ashore. In Wellfleet, there are chunks of ice reminiscent of those found in much harsher climates.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/03/10/mini-icebergs-washing-ashore-along-cape-cod/jZJ8RIkyG9Rztlv0eJ3kMO/story.html
I guess nothing says “dangerous global warming” like a frozen ocean, or pictures of giant lumps of ice washing up on American beaches.
h/t IceAgeNow, story submitted by Eric Worrall
Give me half a billion in funding, and I’ll tell you why the climate is changing. Heck, I’ll do it for free.
The climate has ALWAYS been changing, up or down, since this planet was formed. When oceans and the air-blanket we have started to interact, stirred by the sun and the lunar/solar tides, climate change began– and it’s been going on ever since. Not much you can do to stop it or change its course either. When a planet that’s 8,000 miles in diameter and that weighs six sextillion tons decides it wants to change a couple of degrees up or down, there’s not much you and I can do about it— anymore than we can stop it in its orbit.
This reminds me of a recent episode of Alaska Railroads. It showed massive chunks of ice being pushed up onto the ground as the river started to melt (I think they did mention it had been a hard winter). Some big chunks of ice actually ended up on the rail tracks. There was no mention of climate change, fortunately. What’s the betting that they would have presented this as further proof of global warming?
Chris
It’s either climate change or a pause, both prove climate change, an obvious example of an extreme weather event where I live is that one day it will pour rain and another day there will be absolutely zero precipitation. Send me a million$, thank you
Good luck on this being the once in a lifetime occurrence!! The death spiral of arctic ice works in mysterious ways. I didn’t note NSIDC or Cryosphere today recording this +15% frozen ocean off the coast of Massachusetts in their graphics. If it was frozen there it must have been frozen right up to the Gulf of St. Lawrence which was indeed frozen.
Looks like the persons maintaining that we are entering an ice age due to solar activity are looking more credible every year
There ought to be a way to measure the cooling effect of the ice and its albedo on local temperatures. Certainly, persisting ice in the Great Lakes region as well as sea ice off of the New England coast should impact temperatures in the summer months as well as next fall and winter in that region.
Fred Byrne at 4:18.
“The earth has become unbalanced, and is tipping over.”
Thank you for bringing this possibility to our attention. The US Navy needs to look into this immediately.
http://www.YouTube.com/watch?v=cesSRfXqS1Q&feature=YouTube_gdata_player
EdA were did you get that too funny exchange and how did the Admiral manage to remain sitting and straight faced? But on the down side it shows just how cowardly bureaucrats are when they are talking to people that might influence their funding.
Hey, Hank used the correct word – “capsize”.
I thought Cape Cod rang a bell. That’s where M. Mann said SST’s were 11.5C (21F) above normal last month.
I guess that’s why the sea ice went out early in Cape Cod.
I’m going to the Cape this weekend … I can’t wait to find these things!!
Is that an Canis Bogus I see all stranded and alone on the icy wastes, or just another dog that won’t hunt?
I agree with pointman that skeptics and any other interested sane persons should continually replace “Climate Change” with “Global warming” in conversation or publication.
If “Climate change” cannot be avoided then it must be emphasized that there is no singular “climate” as the planet has a range of climates. Such distinctions may just bring
enlightenment to the population of undeniers at the margin.
At the present rate of “pause” or “hiatus”, in trading terms, the alarmist group are maxed out on their temperature long, leverage is at an all time high, the market is at the end of a very long bull run, is currently in stag, and once it reverts to the mean and ursus makes his shaggy pelt felt, may just let us witness the largest margin call in the history of margin calls.
Please don’t call it ” The pause ” It is not a pause until it starts warming again. Until then the warming has stopped.
Kerry will just send out government ice breakers to protect his sail boats while pushing the carbon tax campaign trail in warmer climates.
Wouldn’t all of that ice be staying put where it belongs, up yonder, if it were not for AGW?
Clearly we have crossed a tipping point with the relocation of all this ice.
They came ashore to get away from all that Mannian warmer sea water. They are actually climate refugees, running up hill trying to out-pace man-made global warming. Hear that, Willis? Climate refugees at last!
not to worry… the scarealarmists are now predicting accelerating warming at a rate not seen in the last thousand years.
Never mind that they’ve been predicting this for the last 18 years, and we know how well that worked out for them.
The lamestream media is keeping mum about this; probably busy trying to figure out how to spin it into “climate change”.
There’s also some coastal sea-ice off the US southern Delmarva Peninsula. Quite rare — 1977ish.
If we’re able to edit posts here would someone tell me how? I hate when I make spelling errors or when my auto-correct changes a word on me. I was under the impression that we can’t edit our posts. Thanks.
It appears the mods have the ability to modify posts, the rest of us are stuck with our mistakes.
[Snip. You overstepped again. ~mod.]
Oops, looks like Phil got modified by a mod…again.
[snip – Phil. you don’t know what you are talking about here, give it a rest. Nothing nefarious going on. And, unlike you. Mr. Stealey has the courage to put his name to his words. We all look forward to the day when you step up – Anthony]
New England did have a “year without a summer” in the early 1800s Freezing temperatures in June and July ruined crops. While it was during the Little Ice Age the 1815 eruption of Tambora, in Indonesia, was a major factor in forcing temperatures lower. Source: “Nantucket Weather Book” – David M. Ludlum
Volcano also defeated Napoleon in 1812 in Russia.
Which is way impressive as Tambora didn’t erupt until April 1815. Call it a prequel. Cheers –
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/blast-from-the-past-65102374/?no-ist
Not forgetting the unknown one in 1809.
Napoleon defeat Napoleon with his own arrogance.
Why doesn’t NASA advertise a picture of the sea off Massachusetts for public interest.
I’m actually encouraged reading that neither of the linked news reports seemed to even remotely imply that human CO2 was responsible for the ice. More so by WBZ saying it is a “once in a generation” occurrence thus implying the truth that it is not something “new”.
OT / BTW – Reminding everyone that we are now down to the FINAL year of the ten year countdown since Al Gore predicted earth will be scorched in ten years if we did not stop emitting greenhouse gases. http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2006/01/27/algore_we_have_ten_years_left_before_earth_cooks
Here is a photo of ice floes in the moonlight off Cape Cod in 1875 from the Library of Congress!
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2004680203/resource/
Here is how serious the Cape Cod ice jamb really is – U-tube:
Speaking of ice … the famous Emanuel Leutze painting of General Washington crossing the Delaware River on or about Christmas day of 1776 shows that the river was indeed navigable at the time despite chunks of ice in it. Because of that painting the navigability of the Delaware in late December has always been a thorn in the side of warministas. If ice is still forming on the river in late December these days then there certainly has NOT been much in the way of “climate change” since 1776. The only way it could be true is if the painting was a total fake and Washington had actually marched across the Delaware.
Has anyone been able to nail down historical records documenting or related to the navigable status of the Delaware River over time? For example, the river was already being used for commerce back in 1776 which would have been interrupted when the river froze over creating shortages or at least longer lead times for various commodities that arrived via the river.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Crossing_the_Delaware#mediaviewer/File:Emanuel_Leutze_%28American,_Schw%C3%A4bisch_Gm%C3%BCnd_1816%E2%80%931868_Washington,_D.C.%29_-_Washington_Crossing_the_Delaware_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg
http://www.nj.com/mercer/index.ssf/2014/01/partial_ice_jam_on_delaware_river_causes_localized_flooding_in_trenton.html
Mike M
: Because of that painting the navigability of the Delaware in late December has always been a thorn in the side of warministas.:
Shouldn’t that be “a thorn in their ballooning claims”?
The painting was done about 75 years after the event in Germany and the ice was modeled on the ice on the river Rhine, so using it as an accurate representation of the conditions in 1776 is a bit of a stretch. The crossing was also made during the night despite the indication of sunlight in the painting.
You make a good point.
Are we saying it wasn’t colder during the Revolutionary War in US. How about this from the NYT:
http://www.nytimes.com/1995/02/07/science/q-a-537095.html
“Dr. Thaler recounted the results of one of the worst New York winters on record, that of 1779 to 1780, during the Revolutionary War. Exact temperature records were not being kept, but it is known that Upper Bay froze so solid that the British occupying Manhattan could slide heavy cannons five miles across the ice from the Battery at the southern tip of Manhattan to fortify Staten Island.”
Phil. ” using it as an accurate representation of the conditions in 1776 is a bit of a stretch.”
Okay Phil, you say it was a stretch so then please tell us, temperature wise … WHICH WAY was it “stretched” exactly? More ice? Less ice? And then next explain THIS:
Elisha Bostwick, Continental Army:
http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/washingtondelaware.htm
I already did, it was painted 75 years after the fact in Germany and modeled on the ice on the Rhine which has a different look to the ice we normally see on the Delaware (often the ice is broken up slabs which flow down the river and get caught at the bridge, which didn’t exist in 1776).
Regarding your quote, Elisha’s memory might be a little faulty since the crossing didn’t start until after dark and rather than completing the crossing ‘late in the evening’ it was completed by 3am. The march started at 4am.
Mike M
Crispin in Waterloo
On the other hand, Cornelius Vanderbilt (he of the New York railroad tycoon fame of the 1800’s) made his first money in transportation by being able to be one of the few Staten Island ferry captains who could get through the Hudson River ice to Manhattan in the 1810-1815 time frame. That is, the Hudson River regularly froze over completely upstream from Manhattan, completely across from Manhattan to New Jersey, and between today’s Statue of Liberty and Staten Island!
This was over a period of several winters – NONE related to the later volcanic eruptions after 1815.
I don’t understand your phrase “on the other hand” because the Hudson still freezes and the ice is regularly broken up by the Coast Guard. Vanderbilt made his money on steam power. Prior to steam boats there likely wasn’t any vessel capable of breaking up the ice on the river. It is also possible that it got colder after the late 1700’s into the 1800’s because there are accounts of the East River freezing over several times in the 1800’s with the first in this account saying 1813 – http://gothamist.com/2013/01/24/new_yorkers_cross_frozen_east_river.php
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But the East River also had a lot of ice this winter as well, not quite as bad as in the 1800’s but wait till next winter – http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/2015/02/25/nycs-east-river-ice-floes-are-a-throwback-to-the-1800s-video/ (At least I learned something today, the Brooklyn Bridge was apparently built because of river ice!)
This is the Hudson from only a month ago –
My point was that, despite NCDC and GISS homogenization and allowing for short term variation, river ice conditions are showing no remarkable difference between the average climate of back then versus now.
On March 5th NOAA CPC declared and unusual late season El Nino, after a 12 month watch period of watching waiting and possibly hoping for ENSO to give birth to its boy child. So here today a jet stream of pineapple express proportions is bringing (wait for it) something like a tenth of an inch to the higher ski areas of the northern Sierra. To say this is underwhelming is perhaps and understatement.
According to AccuWeather.com Chief Long Range Expert Paul Pastelok, “We expect a slow start to spring from the Great Lakes to the upper mid-Atlantic and New England into the first part of April.”
The combination of frequent unsettled conditions, many cloudy days, lingering snowcover, extensive Great Lakes ice and soggy ground will work against lasting warmth building northeastward into this area through the first part of spring.
Depending upon the recipe of that plus snow cover
and how Gulf moisture is pumped northward by upper level wind patterns we could soon begin to see another bumper crop of tornadoes. http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/eaus/wv-animated.gif
Sigh. They are NOT ice bergs. Ice bergs are calved from glaciers. These are nothing more then frozen water (ice) from spring break-up on the nearby inlets and rivers, or the Atlantic. I have walked on this crap in Canada’s North on the McKenzie river for over 30 years. When the river freezes to a minimum of 25 feet, well, you get a few huge chunks of ice coming ashore. Not big enough for Dean Martin’s cocktails, but big.