An actual email from the “Are you now, or have you ever been a member of any anti-science organization?” department and Barack Obama’s “Organizing for Action” front.
Friend —
It’s tough out there for climate change deniers.
One by one, literally every argument and excuse they’ve been using for years is being proven false.
They’re still grasping at myths and conspiracy theories, but deniers are on the run.
Let’s keep them there — join the team that’s calling out climate change deniers.
In reality, the debate on the basics is over.
Not only do 97 percent of climate scientists agree that climate change is real and man-made, but new reports are showing climate and extreme weather impacts are affecting us right now.
Droughts, floods, wildfires, and storms are hitting communities from California to the East Coast, and we’re already spending hundreds of billions on climate-related disaster relief — no one is denying that.
Instead, what you hear from climate change deniers are mostly excuses for not taking action. Some have hidden behind foreign countries, saying America can’t or shouldn’t lead on climate until someone else goes first.
Let’s set aside for a minute that this isn’t actually how we solve global problems. The fact is, President Obama is leading internationally through agreements with China and India to cut carbon pollution and expand the use of clean energy. (So there goes that denier talking point…)
Another thing you might hear from a denier is that we simply can’t get serious about cutting carbon pollution without destroying the economy. That’s just false. For example, the climate and public health benefits from President Obama’s Clean Power Plan outweigh the costs by at least six times.
Maybe deniers doubt we have the will and ingenuity to take such a huge problem on. Well, the American people are proving them wrong: Since 2009, we’ve increased solar power ten-fold and tripled wind power. Hundreds of thousands of Americans work in clean energy today.
The arguments from deniers are getting more and more ludicrous.
We have the facts on our side — and we have to drive that message home. Because as long as deniers and polluters are blocking progress, we’re not doing all we can to combat climate change.
Say you’ll help take them to task — join the team that’s calling out climate change deniers:
http://my.barackobama.com/Expose-Climate-Change-Deniers
Thanks,
Ivan
Ivan Frishberg
Senior Climate Advisor
Organizing for Action
[h/t to: TheLastDemocrat]
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Now Obama’s siding with scientists. Something evil is surely afoot.
He’s siding with his well-paid scientists employed by his government.
And forced to toe the party line of be thrown under the bus by Executive Order to remain silent about any conflicting science… EPA administrator once told staff that should they not believe in CAGW they were in her sights to be fired and to get out… She is such the benevolent dictator under Obama..
warren the ignorant, be so kind as to provide me with the study saying 97% of scientist agree that mankind’s CO2 contributions to the atmosphere will result in catastrophic global disaster.
David the Offensive: Can you falsify this much simpler metric?
ALL the National Science Academies of the world, plus NASA and NOAA, conclude ‘Earth is Warming, Man is the Cause, and the net effects are likely to be strongly negative’ or similar.
The world awaits your yes/no answer to this simplest of questions.
Oh, Warren Pound…,
Leaving aside the fact that your reply to David A. was rudely non-responsive ….
Let’s cut to the chase, to the underlying fact issue (which is not what ANY organization “concludes” about human CO2 emissions),
the issue is: is there any proof making AGW likely?
Thus, you skipped a step.
First, YOU, the proposer, need to prove:
1. The earth is warming.
AND
2. The warming earth was caused by human CO2 emissions.
AND
3. A warming earth is likely to be “strongly negative or similar.”
Until then, I would not expect David A. nor anyone else to waste their time responding.
***************************************
@ur momisugly David A. — in case you read this…
you may find this comment refuting the 97% l1e of interest: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/02/20/friday-funny-well-if-i-was-a-denier-i-guess-id-be-on-notice-by-barack-obama/#comment-1864532
warren, still waiting for your reply…
@David A.
You say “Still awaiting your reply….”.
Sorry, I never said anything about 97% of Scientists. I cited a FACT about 100% of the Science Academies.
Can you falsify that FACT?
If not, that Truth stands.
Warren needs to learn and understand that we live in a world today where science and scientific, academic and government institutions are all willingly and easily corrupted by politics, massive amounts of money and activist (secular religious) agendas. Warren is sadly one of those who is foolish, naive and gullible enough to think that such a thing is not possible or likely.
Warren, human nature is at play here were lots of people can and do willingly become corrupted in the presence of massive amounts of money (billions) as well as the political power to advance there cause(s). If you can show us Warren where the same amount of money is is flowing in to the skeptic camp (and from where), I would like to see it. Please cite your evidence.
It is frustrating to see so many people like Warren in the world who are waaaay to trusting of the wrong people.
@CD153.
You say “It is frustrating to see so many people like Warren in the world who are waaaay to trusting of the wrong people.”.
I’m sorry you’re so frustrated. I’m not. I know what to trust – science from Scientists and B**S from amateurs that think all the world’s scientific institutions are in a conspiracy against them. Reminds me of Chemtrails, 9-11 Truthers, and those that believe LBJ killed JFK.
warrenlb,
Just about every comment you make is an appeal to authority.
You want authorities? These authorities are more honest than the entire IPCC combined:
http://s27.postimg.org/clvovjujn/Astronauts_quotes_pic.jpg
@dbstealey.
Astronauts as authorities on AGW? How about the Marines as authorities on Astronomy? Or, how’s that amateur hip replacement working for you?
@warrenlb,
Every astronaut is required to have a degree in the hard sciences. That makes them AUTHORITIES, whether you like it or not.
But of course, someone as pathetically ignorant as you would not know that. So you wrongly assume that astronauts are not authorities.
You don’t know much, do you, warrenlb? Not much at all. That’s why you always fall back on your appeal to your own corrupted authorities.
And how about the consensus here? If you look, you will see that you don’t have (m)any supporters here at the internet’s Best Science site. Why do you think that is, warrenlb? I’ll tell you why:
You come from a True Believer background, not a SCIENCE background. Catastrophic AGW is your RELIGION, whether you will admit it or not. You exactly fit Dr. Michael Crichton’s example of a religious lemming. Everything you write has the taint of your religious cult. Your religion causes you to get it wrong.
I don’t know of a single person you have convinced here. You are wasting your time, and you are wasting the time of everyone else here. Your arguments are a bunch of carp — they are almost entirely based on your appeals to corrupted authorities. The only true Authority is Planet Earth — and the planet has been busy debunking everything you believe in for the past 18+ years.
You are not fooling anyone, warrenlb. You are not convincing anyone, either. You are a major time sink here, constantly trolling with your logical fallacies.
Really, what good are you?
Warren says:
“I’m sorry you’re so frustrated. I’m not. I know what to trust – science from Scientists and B**S from amateurs that think all the world’s scientific institutions are in a conspiracy against them. Reminds me of Chemtrails, 9-11 Truthers, and those that believe LBJ killed JFK.”
Oh my, Warren. How easily you twist my words. I said nothing about a conspiracy against anyone. I talked about corruption and why it is happening. I have to laugh if you are naive enough to believe that government and its agencies are totally honest (i.e. NOAA and NASA) and never lie to us about anything—including climate change. NOAA and NASA have no choice but to toe whatever political party line on the subject of climate that the White House tells them to. Their funding and their jobs depend on it.
Believe it or not, money DOES talk Warren–whether you like it or not. When billions of $$ are pouring into academia, science and its institutions from government, those scientists and their institutions listen, and they will toe whatever party line the money tells them to. If you expect me to believe that the health of their bank accounts are not vitally important to them and doesn’t affect their behavior, well…think again. This easily explains why this website and many of its commenters can poke enough holes in climate alarmism to make it look like a block of Swiss cheese. That is why this website is so popular. The job has to be done somewhere.
As for calling me an amateur, it is patently obvious to me that there are considerable emotions at play here on your part. Probably hate and mistrust mainly. Emotions often prevent us from objectively looking at things and believing what is true when we choose not to. If you left your emotions out of this and understood and respected science properly and how it operates, what you are saying here would be very different.
Again, I’m talking corruption here for the purpose of driving agendas, not conspiracies against people. And no, I don’t believe in chemtrail B.S., nor the 9-11Truthers or that LBJ killed Kennedy.
@CD 153.
Those that reject the findings of ALL the Academies often claim a universal conspiracy to deceive, either explicitly or implicitly. Furthermore, those same individuals who reject peer-reviewed science do not submit their own work (if they have any) to peer-review for publication, and many claim fraud or conspiracy and impugn those that do the heavy lifting. Perhaps you do not. But it’s not an admirable performance by those that do.
warrenlb says:
… the findings of ALL the Academies…
warrenlb is a parody of himself, constantly arguing with the only tool in his shed: the Appeal to Authority FALLACY.
It didn’t work with Albert Einstein, and it doesn’t work here.
warrenlb has no credible facts, so he uses fallacies. No wonder he’s lost the debate.
The Climate Jihadists will surely begin … The Inquisition. Ha Ha Queue Mel and the orchestra.
Time to be heard by representatives in congress.
It’s a cult. A pseudo religion with a distinctly material emphasis, where ostensibly rational and reasonable men and women defer their dignity to mortal gods. For a material return, of course. Their cause is helped by modern “scientists” common departure from the scientific domain. With politicians, educators, and scientists indulging in principles of uniformity and independence, and unqualified use of inference, it’s not surprising that many people do not understand the limits of the scientific domain, and the scientific method’s design and purpose to separate science, philosophy, and faith.
That said, deny rational, deny reasonable, deny science… deny thy mother and father. Send money. Submit.
“…and we’re already spending hundreds of billions on climate-related disaster relief — no one is denying that.”
The Administration
The Federal spending is a system of slush funds, set up to induce states to adopt Climate Change policies in the near future – sight unseen.
It is really shameless that this spending is used as evidence of changes in earth’s climate.
ref: “NEW HAVEN >> There’s a slice of $1 billion awaiting those with the best prepared states and communities when it comes to climate change and severe weather.
It’s the National Disaster Resilience Competition, and there was a chance Wednesday at Yale University’s Kroon Hall for the public to see the ideas and talk up the best practices that will go into Connecticut’s entry.
“This is a competition that the federal government is having to figure out better ways to build that are more resilient in the face of rising sea levels and increasing storms,” said Kathleen Dorgan of Dorgan Architecture and Planning, one of the participants in Wednesday’s public hearing.”
Darn Universities. Always interfering with our belief systems.
Pardon my ignorance, but what is a “belief system”?
Dawtgtomis
His religion. His ideas are based on what he believes to be true, on what he wants things to be true, not on what the evidence and data show to be true. Thus, to some, the Bible is literally and completely true – not a series of literatures of poetry, songs, stories and parables, histories and – in the middle of these – the Revealed Truth. In warrenlb’s faith-based indoctrination inside Big Government and Big Science and Big Finance (well, his religion), he actually believes that “science” is Written Wholly Formed in the Per Review Literature and – only then, after it appears in words on paper – is the Truth Revealed.
further, he believes that All Science is unbiased and unafraid to confront anomalies and controversies in political goals.
…and what interference are you referring to?
RACookPE1978
Isn’t YOUR religion based on the beliefs of free markets, limited government, individualism, and patriotic militarism ?
..
I guess that your belief system is no different than warrenlb’s belief system.
Sorry if i missed some dry humor, but as a retired university staff member it raised my curiosity. although i do see the statement in a delightfully sarcastic manor, when I look again.
Socrates says:
I guess that your belief system is no different than warrenlb’s belief system.
BZZ-Z-Z-Z-Z-ZT!!
Another wrong guess from the peanut gallery…
…but thanx for playing, and Vanna has some lovely parting gifts for you on your way out.
Wrong again, ROFLOL! #(:))
Even I have read enough WUWT comments to know D.B. and R.A. have some shared beliefs but most certainly do NOT share a “religion.”
ha, ha, haaaaaaaaaaa!
OBTW: Free market economic theories have been proven by experiment to create the most wealth for the most people. Socialist experiments have proven that they inevitably shrink economies and end up a “dictatorship of the elite” — every time. And there are a LOT of atheists who are: 1. Free market proponents; and 2. For a strong military/peace through strength and very patriotic.
rodmol says:
Oh…and if I am not mistaken, you and RACook both subscribe to the same religion.
As a matter of fact, yes rodney, you are sadly mistaken — as usual:
The antithesis of a religious belief is the Scientific Method — something completely rejected by the alarmist cult. Thus, the beliefs of the enviro-cult are ipso facto a religion, while the position of scientific skeptics is science, which is the Un-Religion.
I don’t expect Socrates to understand that difference. He is simply incapable of seeing the forest for the trees. Logical thought is beyond him. But for skeptics — the large majority of those who are posting here, and the large majority of lurkers reading these articles and threads — their rational analysis leads them to the inescapable conclusion that the religious alarmist cult has never proven it’s case. Not even close.
Socrates says:
Still bird dogging me?
Shall I post the original thread, where you came out of nowhere, and started attacking me?
That proves two things beyond any doubt:
First, that you are fixated on my comments. You can’t help yourself. I can also link to both comments showing where I first pointed out that you have been bird-dogging my posts. Would you like for me to do that?
You’re just an impotent little chihuahua trying to nip at my heels, but you can never seem to come up with any credible facts. So you just copy my own comments. Sad and pathetic, no?
Can you come up with an original comment? Ever? Or are you so completely unimaginitive that you are incapable of doing anything but being a copycat? Plagiarizing the comments of others is just one more reprehensible problem you have.
And second: I have easily thrashed you like a rented mule every time you’ve tried to debate me. You don’t have either the necessary facts, or the ability to hold your own. If I didn’t enjoy playing Whack-A-Mole, I would just disregard your juvenile nonsense. But I do enjoy playing Whack-A-Mole, and I get pleasure out of knocking you around every chance I get. As you can see.
Trot along now back to Hotwhopper, or wherever you get your usual misinformation from. You’re still a long way from wearing your bigboy pants, and you are way out of your depth here.
Your religion is a case in point. As Dr. Crichton makes clear, you are a religious acolyte. That is 180º away from being a scientific skeptic like RACook, me, and many others here. We are skeptics — the only honest kind of scientists. But you are just a religious lemming; an enviro-cult member who wouldn’t know the Scientific Method if it bit you on the a… nkle.
Rodney says:
Go bother Gates and leave me alone.
You wish. Until you start answering questions, I will take pleasure in pointing out your sad inadequacies.
I’ve repeatedly answered your questions. But so far, you have never answered any of mine. Not a single one. The reason is clear: you are not capable of answering. All you are capable of doing is emitting nonsense. As long as you tuck tail and run away from answering questions, you will never get to wear your bigboy pants. Maybe you don’t want to be mature. Your juvenile comments make that pretty clear.
Now, isn’t it about time for you to run to momma moderator again, and cry about being picked on? Answer some questions, and the big dogs might leave you alone.
OK, since I’ve answered all your questions, here are two questions from me, for starters:
1. Can you produce any measurements of AGW? Even one? And…
2. What are your credentials? What’s your CV? Do you even have a CV? Others have asked you that question, now it’s my turn. What qualifies you to be anything more than a member of the peanut gallery?
It’s your turn, “Socrates”. I’ve answered, but you have just hidden out. Time to put up…
” you are not capable of answering.”
Please stop bird dogging me..
..
@”Socrates/rodmol”:
Answer some questions, jamoke. And do try, at least, to come up with something original, instead of copying my ‘bird-dog’ comment. IF you can.
But if you can’t, I’ll take pleasure in pointing out that all you’re doing is copying what I originally told you. Twice.
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. So keep imitating me, I enjoy seeing it.
Sure. Just answer the questions, jamoke.
[FYI: a jamoke is someone who sits around in a coffee shop all day, solving the world’s problems instead of working at a productive job. He has no credibility — and everyone knows it.]
If you think that’s calling you names, that’s about as mild as they come. It is far milder than “contrarian”, or “denialist”. And you never seeme concerned that one of your alarmist pals constantly labels me “dishonest” and “stupid” — both of those names are far worse than ‘jamoke’. Isn’t that so, you delicate little flower?
Answer my questions, Socrates. Then I won’t call you a jamoke.☺
Calling someone names is disrespectful.
Then earn some respect. Answer the questions.
rodney me boi, I have been called much worse names by better than you.
You are still deflecting. Answer the questions.
“rodmol” sez:
I am truly sorry Mr Dbstealey.
No, you’re not. And you deserve no respect — sockpuppet.
Do you think people here are stupid?? You’re not sorry in the least. I think you’re a lowlife sockpuppet who goes by the screen names of ‘beckleybud’, and ‘David Socrates’, and ‘Edward Richardson’, and lots of others. Your M.O. is just too easy to spot. I can smoke you out no matter what sockpuppet name you use. It only takes a few of your comments. You’re not too smart, are you?
You are here only to run interference, trying to cause trouble at the internet’s Best Science site.
Well, you fail as always. Get a life. Quit acting like such a loser, “Socrates”.
[If I am mistaken, my sincere apologies. I could be wrong; I’m human, after all].
But I’m not mistaken, am I, “Gordon Ford”? No, your style is too easy to spot. From the first time you first posted [incorrectly] attacking my grammar under your current sockpuppet name, I suspected you were just another sockpuppet. I’m right, am I not?
Yes, Mr. Jamoke, I am right. You’re just a site pest. No bigboy pants for you, dummy! ☺
rodmol@virginmedia.com (replying to Janice Moore)
Not too bad. By the way, they were paid off a long time ago, but the ever-higher highway “maintenance” gas taxes? Got diverted to pay for other things Big Government wanted. Still not paying for the maintenance. Western dams and canals and highways? Getting torn up now by eastern socialists.
Failing. The students don’t know anything, but the socialist bureaucrats outnumber the teachers.
Going bankrupt. Even faster now with additional withdrawals to pay for extra claimants as disabled, youngsters added to the roles, etc. It will fail. Is failing.
Propping up central banks, and looking for 30 trillion in carbon trading futures, 150 trillion in futures trading in other commodities, and causing inflation. As usual.
About 1/2 the workforce is sitting at home in Obola’s economy. And not minding it at all.
Going bankrupt even faster than Social Security. What? About 5 years now to crumble, since Obola’s ObomaCare is taking money from Medicare to reduce the first 10 years funding needed for ObamaCare.
rodmol/socks says:
If that is all you can do……good luck.
Socrates, at least I use my real name. But you post under lots of sockpuppet names. You are a site pest who always tries to interfere here. You never really discuss science, you just keep posting about how wrong everyone is, and about your tender feelings.
How about posting under your real name for once? That would start you on the road to honesty. You have a long road ahead of you. You can start by taking that first step…
All you really need to know about rodmol is his sick answers to RACook’s response about the socialized US.
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The Australian fishing vessel Antarctic Chieftain was rescued Tuesday (Feb 17) when the US Coast Guard icebreaker Polar Star broke through 150 miles (240 km) of ice and towed the damaged vessel free.
The Reuters story here correctly notes the Polar Star (WAGB-10 — commissioned 1976) is almost 40 years old and the only US heavy icebreaker suitable for this job. Her sister ship Polar Sea (WAGB-11 — commissioned 1977) has been out of service since 2010 due to complete failure of 5 of her 6 diesel engines. A report submitted in 2013 claimed it was possible to refit and reactivate her, but to my knowledge has not been acted on.
You want a climate change plan? How about: build more icebreakers, preferably nuclear powered.
I have an idea for the rising seas. Everyone living within 2 miles of the coast gets a canoe, a bottle of water, and 2 cans of beans. Don’t know of my idea for increasing storms is worth it since storms aren’t increasing. But if they insist, everyone gets a free umbrella and galoshes.
Where do I pick up my check?
I liked the suggestion of an Australian guy on rising sea levels. “Every 50 years take one step back away from the sea.”
Alx and DD — lololololololo
Cheque?
rodmol@virginmedia.com February 20, 2015 at 7:16 pm
PS Janice Moore
..
With regard to your ““dictatorship of the elite”
…
The USA is a plutocracy……
rodmol Oh do please ..define “plutocracy”, I wish to make sure you and I have the same understanding of the word…
michael
p.s. so so many throw out these type of words with out understanding them and instead have a problem with them fact that a majority of the population simply does not buy their point of view or sees it as a non issue.
Hi, Mike — #(:)). (and R.A., too) — Thanks for the back up. I got tired of punching a pillow pretty quick.
rodmol/beckleybud sez:
The USA is a plutocracy……
And:
Face it Mr Cook, we live in a socialist system.
First off, there is nothing wrong with a plutocracy, so long as opportunities exist for anyone becoming plutocrats. In the U.S. that happens all the time. It’s called ‘churn’, and it allows everyone the opportunity to get rich.
Next: to the extent the U.S. has become socialist, it has denied opportunities to individuals, and it has reduced our national wealth. It’s like the old joke: “Looks good, but feels bad”.
Socialism is for losers, not for winners. No wonder rodmol/Socrates likes it.
Hi janice he seems to have called it a night. is he Socrates under a new name?
michael
oh and look up the newburgh affair 1783. if you have head of it The continental army war was bordering on mutiny.The war was won but now the peace was at risk. Anyone can write laws but it is traditions that carve them into stone
It seemed appropriate to what you were discussing.
Dear Mike,
How did you know I was wondering why… . 🙂 I vaguely remembered reading about the Newburgh Affair … . Well! I just looked it up and, yes, I think I finally see your fine point: the heart is the seat of wisdom and the key to true valor. The American soldier (or sailor or marine or airperson) can be counted on to do the right thing. Just as the Constitution supercedes all conflicting mandates of a president, so, too, when selfish (pardonably) interest (whether to protect their retirement benefits or another interest or to get paid as Washington’s troops wanted) says to obey what the letter of the law demands, they will follow a Higher Law and instead of serving self, serve Love (of country/of others). There are many modern examples that show this noble spirit is alive and well in the U. S. Armed Forces (that Capt. Mark Philips is alive bears witness to one of them).
The Revolutionary troops’ brains’ icy, just, conclusion (“You owe me.”) melted away before love’s tears. Love is the highest wisdom. True love is never in conflict with the facts; it simply places them in their proper light. Love makes us do the right thing with what we know.
Thank you for sharing some of your excellent scholarship and for persevering in getting me to understand.
Janice
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that “John Edwards for President” deal didn’t go so well and
the exciting climate movement merger was orchestrated by Rockefeller Brothers Fund
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The political left has succeeded in bullying and intimidating people into silence. What they have failed to do is to persuade people to their position. And, by blurring the lines between science and politics, Climate Science, as an institution, has rendered itself un-trustworthy. I don’t think that climate science can ever recover from the damage they have done to themselves.
They can recover, but requires politics first losing interest in them and their science and then climate scientists getting a passing grade in a remedial course in Science Principles 101.
The political left has succeeded in bullying and intimidating people into silence. What they have failed to do is to persuade people to their position.
That’s not necessary. Someone bullied into silence can be ignored.
We are definitely moving into the twilight zone. If facts and analysis supports your theory pound the facts, if the facts do not support your theory, try name calling and repeating your rhetoric.
Reality check for warmist scientists. After no warming for 18 years, there is now suddenly record sea ice in the Antarctic for all months of the year and a recover of sea ice (including multiyear sea ice) in the Arctic. What caused the past warming and cooling cycles in the paleo record? Did you guys notice the sun was at its highest activity level in 8000 years during the global warming period?
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/seaice.anomaly.antarctic.png
Could a warmist scientist explain why there has been almost no tropical warming?
http://www.eoearth.org/files/115701_115800/115741/620px-Radiation_balance.jpg
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/07/16/about-that-missing-hot-spot/
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/05/05/benchmarking-ipccs-warming-predictions/
Greenland ice temperature, last 11,000 years determined from ice core analysis, Richard Alley’s paper.
http://www.climate4you.com/images/GISP2%20TemperatureSince10700%20BP%20with%20CO2%20from%20EPICA%20DomeC.gif
http://www.drroyspencer.com/wp-content/uploads/TMI-SST-MEI-adj-vs-CMIP5-20N-20S-thru-2015.png
http://www.drroyspencer.com/2013/02/tropical-ssts-since-1998-latest-climate-models-warm-3x-too-fast/
Facts are not important. This is a political agenda.
COUGH, COUGH,,,,,BS,,,COUGH
Moron. Trying intimidation because nothing else is working.,
Unfortunately Obama is incredibly divisive. It is ironic because his platform was about “uniting” the country. Anyone who looked at his political career in Chicago would know politically he was a back-stabbing SOB. In order to wrest the nomination from Hillary, the Obama campaign had to turn Bill Clinton into a racist. That took some doing, but he managed it. He needed 90% of the black vote to win and he got it.
This letter is not unusual, it is typical Obama. Slanderous, dishonest, ugly and of course divisive. He has no scruples when it comes to making political points. This is a guy who publicly communicated his grandma was a racist. He is just another creepy politician, have no idea why so few do not see through the facade.
Also do not understand why they haven’t dropped the Obama logo. It looks like a label for bottled water. Probably designed by the same outfit that does Poland Springs.
Well he is keeping his promise to “fundamentally change America”. The MSM did not bother to ask what those changes would be. Hope we don’t get fooled again.
Obama is the “front” man. it is the people like Ayers, Jarret, Dorn and others that drive the agenda. Fritshberg is just another mouthpiece. Very similar people of his ilk are now driving Clinton’s campaign. This is really, really ugly and going to get worse. Just see how they are attacking people that are center right and it is not only happening in the US MSM, it is becoming a worldwide campaign. They are scared and are now using the lowest vile attacks. It seems we are always on the defensive ( as the DB/rolmod ” debate” shows) and thanks DB and as usual it ended with nothing from the guy that made any sense, if he had a point to make I am still looking for it.
asybot,
I think you’re right. They’re scared.
Sockpuppets like beckleybud/Socrates/rodmol are running interference.
“Rodmol” is a perennial site pest here, banned repeatedly for his despicable sockpuppetry. After only a few comments, I can spot him now.
He is the type that runs interference since M. Mann and the rest of the alarmist crowd now decline to debate. Since Mann and the rest of his ilk have lost every debate with skeptical scientists, now they hide out in their Twitter accounts, and issue press releases — anything except man up and debate.
They leave that for their lemmings, like the rodmol/Socrates jamoke. There isn’t a stand-up guy among them.
Thank you dbstealey. The whack a mole session demonstrated your point so effectively that it’s doubtful warmists volunteer you another opportunity very soon. Either way there is now one more reason to read the discussions here in full. Great work.
Thank you, Jaakko. I appreciate your support. It is tedious fighting trolls like ‘rodmol’. But the misinformation they post cannot be allowed to go uncorrected.
For every valid point there is a mountain of misinformation. Just look at the comments on economics, social security, etc., where RACook runs circles around him.
I would say 99% of climate change is Natural. Extreme weather events have natural causes. However if you asked me if Carbon Dioxide was a significant factor in global warming over the last century I would agree with the 97%. Having a technical background the word significant means “contributing factor”. Most people that misquote the 97% number are not bright enough to realize that it only pertains to a subset of the global warming of the last 100 years. The 97% number includes people that believe CO2 is a minor part of the problem or do not believe the problem requires any action. In other words the 97% consensus INCLUDES DENIERS.
WTF. Sorry. Is this for real? Can it be?
It’s a Friday Funny. Where is the sarc tag.
Odd. I’ve been getting these calls from Ohio …
It’s been depressing me for a long time. Since this blog started and was a ray of hope. I changed my views in the 90s when my understanding of biology just didn’t add up to the claims made back then by global warming. I realised this would be a generational time scale. Like eugenics. I listen to people talk about becoming lawyers to sort out the science. I listen to people that have less of an idea about science than I do spout off about what they don’t know. it’s depressing to see science subverted, distorted and driven by consensus. I want to swear. I hardly bother anymore. Just listen and read in silent disbelief. I visit here as a reassuring comfort that some people are still fight. Still, it’s sad sad sad how ignorant and mythical it becomes. I still think of the weather bloke from Oregon that last his position over a decade ago. Because, of #insert swear word of choice# politics! One screamer there. Very restrained of me!!!!!
join the team that’s calling out climate change deniers.
Hunt them down, persecute them, re-educate them.
I am reminded of the Chinese Cultural Revolution.
Some have hidden behind foreign countries
Denounce the spies!
Heh … Three times pitiful or even ten times pitiful is still pitiful.
Actually, I find this reassuring. Nice to know that they are scraping the bottom of the barrel with their “arguments”. It looks like they are down to stupid, anecdotal “evidence”. Only a moron would believe this stuff and they are going to believe it no matter what.
Not worried by this.
+1
This is the most loathsome thing I’ve seen. Why not just have Holder round all the deniers up put in in a re-education camp.
Imbeciles.
Has anyone petitioned NASA to take down that “97% Consensus” tripe?
http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
Their cited sources don’t even support that consensus. Dr. Anderegg found less than 90%, for example, though I have an e-mail from him saying that I read his study incorrectly..
Yes. And they responded that that Cook’s paper was legitimate since not retracted.
Same old, same old, if you can’t have a sensible science debate just talk about the ‘enemy’ in derogatory terms and try to radicalise more impressionable people.
ISIS would be proud.
In fact, if ISIS supported their ridiculous ‘team’ they would probably be stupid enough to put a link to their site and say “Sponsored by ISIS”. After all, don’t these idiots think “climate change is a bigger threat to humanity”?
The US state common core will also lend a propagandist hand:
https://www.masterresource.org/debate-issues/common-core-climate-indoctrination/
Please help me out here. This is a joke, isn’t it? As english isn’t my native language, I just have to ask.
A simple No / Yes answer will do.
No. (Ivan is serious)
And yes! #(:)) (it is a BIG JOKE as you can see from the above comments)
Andre,
The email appears to be real and it appears to be from Barack Obama’s “Organizing for Action” front. That means it is a joke to independent thinkers who are scientifically critical of the claims of the climate change cause’s observationally challenged theory of significant warming by CO2 from burning fossil fuels. Real life does sometimes imitate comedy. I am LMAO.
John
Thks Janice and John.
One somewhat hoped that kind of insanity ended after the 1930s.
Andre,
Fanatical power grabbers are ubiquitous in history, the present included as history in the making. Vigilance needed as usual.
John
The author is a joke! He is serious, but seriously delusional. So the simple answer is: a joke, wrote a fundraiser full of whoppers, aimed at folks willing to be bamboozled.
Extremely threadbare and preposterous are the shouted arguments – this guy wouldn’t fare too well in any debate. I especially like that “Six times more cost effective” line. One can only imagine the crazy assumptions behind that piece of nonsense.
Hmmmm…..CAGW hype has been six times more in promoting my agenda than Al Gore’s Ozone Hole?