An actual email from the “Are you now, or have you ever been a member of any anti-science organization?” department and Barack Obama’s “Organizing for Action” front.
Friend —
It’s tough out there for climate change deniers.
One by one, literally every argument and excuse they’ve been using for years is being proven false.
They’re still grasping at myths and conspiracy theories, but deniers are on the run.
Let’s keep them there — join the team that’s calling out climate change deniers.
In reality, the debate on the basics is over.
Not only do 97 percent of climate scientists agree that climate change is real and man-made, but new reports are showing climate and extreme weather impacts are affecting us right now.
Droughts, floods, wildfires, and storms are hitting communities from California to the East Coast, and we’re already spending hundreds of billions on climate-related disaster relief — no one is denying that.
Instead, what you hear from climate change deniers are mostly excuses for not taking action. Some have hidden behind foreign countries, saying America can’t or shouldn’t lead on climate until someone else goes first.
Let’s set aside for a minute that this isn’t actually how we solve global problems. The fact is, President Obama is leading internationally through agreements with China and India to cut carbon pollution and expand the use of clean energy. (So there goes that denier talking point…)
Another thing you might hear from a denier is that we simply can’t get serious about cutting carbon pollution without destroying the economy. That’s just false. For example, the climate and public health benefits from President Obama’s Clean Power Plan outweigh the costs by at least six times.
Maybe deniers doubt we have the will and ingenuity to take such a huge problem on. Well, the American people are proving them wrong: Since 2009, we’ve increased solar power ten-fold and tripled wind power. Hundreds of thousands of Americans work in clean energy today.
The arguments from deniers are getting more and more ludicrous.
We have the facts on our side — and we have to drive that message home. Because as long as deniers and polluters are blocking progress, we’re not doing all we can to combat climate change.
Say you’ll help take them to task — join the team that’s calling out climate change deniers:
http://my.barackobama.com/Expose-Climate-Change-Deniers
Thanks,
Ivan
Ivan Frishberg
Senior Climate Advisor
Organizing for Action
[h/t to: TheLastDemocrat]
Bullshit!
http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=11518047&authType=NAME_SEARCH&authToken=XlRF&locale=en_US&trk=tyah&trkInfo=idx%3A1-1-1%2CtarId%3A1424490827789%2Ctas%3AIvan+Frishberg
This is Ivan Frishberg’s Linkedin profile
…and this man is your President….? Who voted for this McCarthyistic tactic? Vote carefully next time….
He is not a man!
He is a chocolate Easter bunny.
Brown, sickeningly sweet, and completely hollow.
david I must humbly disagree
Brown, sickeningly sweet, and completely hollow. No he is definitely full of something
grinning
michael
233 comments so far and the word “Projection” hasn’t been used yet?
Embarrassing is a more accurate term.
The “97%” consensus myth is the last rusty leg of the CAGW pogo stick that still allows it to jump around the potholes of reality.
As long as the aggressively-ignorant masses believe this “97%” myth to be true, any irrefutable empirical evidence falsifying the CAGW hypothesis will simply be robotically countered with, “Well, since “97%” of all scientists in the world believe Climate Change is an existential threat, I’ll stick with the ‘science’.”……..
Oh, the studity……it hurts….
It’s no use countering this silly “97%” meme by explaining all the rules of logic and the Scientific Method this “97%” meme breaks, because they’ll just circularly repeat the “97%” meme, at which point, your head explodes…
As more and more scientists outside the climatology field start expressing their skepticism of CAGW, the more people will realize the “97%” myth was just propaganda and will eventually understand CAGW is a scam. When this happens, CAGW becomes a political liability, the research grants stop and CAGW dies.
Granted, under such a scenario, CAGW will die for all the wrong reasons, but hey, a win is a win…
We should ask for the list of ‘climate scientists’ who are for or against this consensus every time they state the figure. Don’t let the conversation proceed further until they provide this or their source.
see http://www.theeuroprobe.org 2012 – 015 The Great Global Warming Fraud. If anyone can find any errors in the text please let me know. Mick G From: Watts Up With That? To: mickgreenhough@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Friday, 20 February 2015, 21:14 Subject: [New post] Friday Funny: Well if I was a ‘denier’ I guess I’d be on notice by Barack Obama #yiv2927340058 a:hover {color:red;}#yiv2927340058 a {text-decoration:none;color:#0088cc;}#yiv2927340058 a.yiv2927340058primaryactionlink:link, #yiv2927340058 a.yiv2927340058primaryactionlink:visited {background-color:#2585B2;color:#fff;}#yiv2927340058 a.yiv2927340058primaryactionlink:hover, #yiv2927340058 a.yiv2927340058primaryactionlink:active {background-color:#11729E;color:#fff;}#yiv2927340058 WordPress.com | Anthony Watts posted: “An actual email from the “Are you now, or have you ever been a member of any anti-science organization?” department and Barack Obama’s “Organizing for Action” front.Friend –It’s tough out there for climate change deniers.One by one, literal” | |
Oh lord. What a load of tripe.
horrors,
Brain Washing at its most malignant,
Hard for me to believe that this site is for real, especially if you have researched at least one of their so called ‘facts”. eg reading Cook on the 97% of scientists claim and the exhortations to target “dissenting” politicians.
We can only hope the the US public at large can see through this site and recognize it for what it is.
Cheers,
Roger
http://rogerfromnewzealand.wordpress.com
Hey, Ivan Frishberg, those must be some REALLY good mushrooms you are dipping into, there… Can I have some? I need a break from reality, too.
The President has been very poorly advised.
He has chosen the advisers he wanted & with whom he agrees.
There is a twist of freakish and bizarre to the rants of this Ivan Frishberg…
It is likely that a substantial amount of money will be raised, given the total media domination by the pro-AGW camp.
Are there rules in the US about how it is audited. I could not see on the link exactly how it would be used or to whom it would be distributed.
Do such matters not concern US regulatory bodies – I think that they would in the UK or we would all be setting up websites to gather in money for heart – tugging good causes and then buying villas somewhere warm along the Med.
mikewaite
No. But it is worse than you think. Like the other writer who noted that the form “was already filled out” … The political parties and their agents and publicists receiving this money DON’T WANT TO KNOW who is “donating” (giving) them money so they can deny accountability. They also, if foreign money is coming in – and it foes! – via anonymous “too low to require disclosure amounts” then the foreign net billions in foreign money can be accumulated with no repercussions nor acknowledgement.
And, if there is no statement about “how” the money is to be used, it can be used for anything, right?
A nice little “game” the democrats play, isn’t it?
Does Ivan even realize how creepy he has let himself become?
And is Obama aware of mybarackobama website and its contents? If yes, AGW cannot possibly sink any lower.
Yes. Since he won re-election, he morphed his campaign msocial media apparatus into this group and site, with permission to post using his name. Officially sanctioned. Sad, but true.
“All kneel before the great storm god Baal! Unbelievers will be dealt with! Bring your tithes and offerings to the temple so Baal will be merciful to you, and for the support of Baal’s priests, lest Baal strike the land with storms!”
Not much has changed in 3000 years, has it? Humanity still fears and collects idols in its own image, except larger, and lets itself be led by false prophets and priests who claim they can set the world right. Ironically, it’s those idol-worshipping cultures that live in chains as they destroy their environment.
It’s the pathological messianic self-importance and judgementalism of these people that astounds. When did the archangel anoint this special one to save humanity again? Oh, you mean there was never any of that? He’s just acting on pure ego ignorance and arrogance for a community organizer in-chief? Oh, yeah? Well, that’s OK then. Whew, I almost took him for an over-zealous radical crackpot extremist there for a moment.
Or someone who follows the Science. His one virtue.
warrenlb, if you are referring to Oh!Frigging!bummer! (that translates to ‘obama’ btw) then we have a problem.
But warren, Obama DOESN’T follow the science.
He lies about everything–so lying about the climate is par for the course.
If he has any virtues, I’ve yet to see them.
And since Science has been eliminated, you must agree.
Talk about McCarthyism!
“We’re doomed to repeat the past no matter what. That’s what it is to be alive. It’s pretty dense kids who haven’t figured that out by the time they’re ten…. Most kids can’t afford to go to Harvard and be misinformed.”
― Kurt Vonnegut, Bluebeard
I tried replying, but they request donations of at least $3.00 . It looks sort of like a “Nigerian Bank” con game to me.
Except that you are being harassed into it. There is no “con” in this case. It is assault.
aaaahhh!! What a disappointment that. I tried to participate, to call out myself. I figured the right answer to that is to try and overwhelm them. And to get one’s name up there to able to say I told you so. But of course you can’t call out anyone unless you’re willing to pay 3$ for the privilige. Well, I guess that would work. I’m not going to donate so that I can get a label on my name. The campaign is aimed at people who’d shell out money for a political organization so that they can rat on their neighbours. Great direction from a peace nobelist. Maybe use the info for directing propaganda, maybe save for later when one needs the scapegoats when the climate presumably has deteriorated unbearably.
Went to the link above to check it out. I was concerned about leaving my info there, but the name and zipcode blanks were already filled in with someone else’s information. Clicking to enter that information leads to a page asking for a donation, as Alan McIntyre mentions. Seems like they must be making multiple entry counts from the same information. If the email address that was automatically filled in was a legitimate address, they are making people’s email addresses public. More bad programming.
Why on earth would action be taken against people because they disagree? Why is it important to force dissenters to go along with things? Shouldn’t they just write us off as ignoramuses? or dinosaurs? and get on with what they want with 97% support. An earlier generation would never have contemplated such an action. The only explanation I think of is that they are sliding, failing badly. All the polls say there are too many people against to put into jails. Yes, ironically, they are becoming the “D”nyers.
It is not that hard to figure out. Jews (an others) were massacred to frighten the population at large into compliance. It’s a tactic often used by political organizations with access to institutional power. Deniers are simply convenient scapegoats. The goal is intimidation and the target the electorate.
“We have the facts on our side”
I wish they would list them instead of keeping the facts to themselves. These people must be out of their minds, Why do they detest anyone who disagrees with the global warming fanatics? Is it because they have no case to answer, or Is it perhaps because they are making a great deal of money from spouting their untruths? in which case their lies have some purpose to them.
A total straw man letter, with enough reasonably sounding quips to sound like it’s coming from a position armed with “facts”.
Notwithstanding the “97%” meme, the second part of the sentence, meant to cause alarm, is a “true” statement. As commented on earlier, climate and extreme weather have ALWAYS affected “us”. The above was carefully worded, to imply that humans are now the cause of the “extreme” part of weather.
I had a “conversation” yesterday with someone, and was surprised to find out that this person thought that d3ni3rs do not believe that the climate NATURALLY changes!!?? The non-interested person or child on the street appears to have no clue to what the debate is about. The only information they get is from letters like the above that attempts to make anyone questioning the warming orthodoxy sound absurd. This is just an observation, but I think the vast majority of people who are “concerned” with AGW (although they’ve never heard the term) unwittingly use straw man arguments, because that is all they’re ever presented with.
Ivan, Ivan, Ivan . . .
You have the ‘totalitarian’s dilemma’ in which the necessary secret police force and its informers must be surveilled as well and the surveillers must be surveilled ad nauseum. Your missive promotes self-absorbing climate change paranoia when all you need to do is to actively promote the free and open marketplace of climate focused scientific ideas in a broadly balanced multitude of very public venues.
John
Propaganda comes in two forms. The lies they tell and the truth they withhold. How can so many on the left so easily fall for one for or the other?
Just got this email from the White House:
The President’s science advisor is at your fingertips:
Have a question about our changing climate? You’ve got the President’s science advisor at your fingertips.
Since November, Dr. John Holdren has been encouraging the public to ask him anything about climate change on social media using the hashtag #AskDrH. You’ve been asking — and he’s been answering.
Most recently, students asked what the U.S. is doing to prepare for future storms, and how we can cut carbon dioxide emissions without hurting our economy — among other critical questions.
You should watch his responses. Listen to what Dr. Holdren had to say, and make sure to pass these responses on.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2015/02/09/president-s-science-advisor-answers-your-climate-questions?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_content=email433-text1&utm_campaign=climate
“No challenge poses a greater threat to future generations than climate change.”
That’s what the President said in his State of the Union address last month.
The fact is that there’s a lot of misinformation out there about our climate, and it’s on all of us to do our part to set the record straight and make sure people are as informed and knowledgeable about the very real effects of climate change as possible.
Check out Dr. Holdren’s video answers here, and share them with anyone else — young or old — who has questions about our changing climate.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2015/02/09/president-s-science-advisor-answers-your-climate-questions?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_content=email433-text2&utm_campaign=climate
In fact I am a member presently of one of the most blatantly “anti-science” organizations ever. I am a registered Democrat!
Changes happen from the inside.