The ‘social cost’ of carbon dioxide emissions may not be $37, as previously estimated by a recent US government study, but $220. From the Stanford School of Engineering

The economic damage caused by a ton of CO2 emissions-often referred to as the “social cost of carbon-could actually be six times higher than the value that the United States uses to guide current energy regulations, and possibly future mitigation policies, Stanford scientists say.
A recent U.S. government study concluded, based on the results of three widely used economic impact models, that an additional ton of CO2 emitted in 2015 would cause US$37 worth of economic damages. These damages are expected to take various forms, including decreased agricultural yields and harm to human health related to climate change.
But according to a new study, published online this week in the journal Nature Climate Change, the actual cost could be much higher. “We estimate that the social cost of carbon is not $37, as previously estimated, but $220,” said study coauthor Frances Moore, a PhD candidate in the Emmett Interdisciplinary Program in Environment and Resources in Stanford’s School of Earth Sciences.
Based on the findings, countries may want to increase their efforts to curb greenhouse gas emissions, said study coauthor Delavane Diaz, a PhD candidate in the Department of Management Science and Engineering. “If the social cost of carbon is higher, many more mitigation measures will pass a cost-benefit analysis,” Diaz said. “Because carbon emissions are so harmful to society, even costly means of reducing emissions would be worthwhile.”
For their study, Moore and Diaz modified a well-known model for calculating the economic impacts of climate change, known as an integrated assessment model, or IAM. Their alternative formulation incorporated recent empirical findings suggesting that climate change could substantially slow economic growth rates, particularly in poor countries.
IAMs are important policy tools. Because they include both the costs and benefits of reducing emissions, they can inform governments about the optimal level of investment in emission reduction. The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, for example, uses the $37 average value from three IAMs to evaluate greenhouse gas regulations. Canada, Mexico, the United Kingdom, France, Germany and Norway have also used IAMs to analyze climate and energy policy proposals.
While useful, IAMs have to make numerous simplifying assumptions. One limitation, for example, is that they fail to account for how the damages associated with climate change might persist through time. “For 20 years now, the models have assumed that climate change can’t affect the basic growth-rate of the economy,” Moore said. “But a number of new studies suggest this may not be true. If climate change affects not only a country’s economic output, but also its growth, then that has a permanent effect that accumulates over time, leading to a much higher social cost of carbon.”
In the new study, Moore and Diaz took a widely used IAM, called the Dynamic Integrated Climate-Economy (DICE) model, and modified it in three ways: they allowed climate change to affect the growth rate of the economy; they accounted for adaptation to climate change; and they divided the model into two regions to represent high- and low-income countries.
“There have been many studies that suggest rich and poor countries will fare very differently when dealing with future climate change effects, and we wanted to explore that,” Diaz said.
One major finding of the new study is that the damages associated with reductions in economic growth rates justify very rapid and very early mitigation that is sufficient to limit the rise of global temperature to two degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels. This is the target that some experts say is necessary to avert the worst effects of global warming.
“This effect is not included in the standard IAMs,” Moore said, “so until now it’s been very difficult to justify aggressive and potentially expensive mitigation measures because the damages just aren’t large enough.”
The pair’s IAM also shows that developing countries may suffer the most from climate change effects. “If poor countries become less vulnerable to climate change as they become richer, then delaying some emissions reductions until they are more fully developed may in fact be the best policy,” Diaz said. “Our model shows that this is a major uncertainty in mitigation policy, and one not explored much in previous work.”
The pair notes two important caveats to their work, however. First, the DICE model’s representation of mitigation is limited. It doesn’t take into account, for example, the fact that low-carbon technologies take time to develop and deploy.
Secondly, while it explores the effects of temperature on economic growth, the model does not factor in the potential for mitigation efforts to also impact growth.
“For these two reasons, the rapid, near-term mitigation level found in our study may not necessarily be economically optimal”, Diaz said. “But this does not change the overall result that if temperature affects economic growth-rates, society could face much larger climate damages than previously thought, and this would justify more stringent mitigation policy.”
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Maybe this could be an entry in Anthony’s upcoming “Climate Madlibs” ?
__1__ said. “Our model shows that this is __2__ in mitigation policy, and one not explored much ___3___.”
1. Diaz, the Ayatollah, Bugs Bunny, Genghis Khan
2. a major uncertainty, worse than we thought, laughable, boring
3. in previous work, among disbelievers, in Hillary’s knickers, on other planets
I seem to have a problem with anyone connected to Stanford. They should change the medication of their ‘scientists’. For some reason whenever I hear ‘Stanford’ I think of one of those institutes in the past where they performed horrible experiments on patients and at some point the lunatics take over the asylum. I can never be sure which group is producing the reports. Shudder!
Fairly well known in academic psychology:
Professor Zimbardo’s planned 2 week experiment was shut down after only 6 day’s fearing imminent physical harm to the “inmates” from the guards’ sadistic impulses that Zimbardo cultivated.
http://www.psychologistworld.com/influence_personality/stanfordprison.php
Wow! Multi-colored spaghetti lines on a chart with no numbers on the vertical axis, all on a background of steam clouds photographed in early morning light for maximum humidity and contrast. Visually stunning – and meaningless.
Color me – Unimpressed.
Exactly. I too wondered how science-challenged people are supposed to “see” all that nasty carbon dioxide hiding in the “smoke.” Not saying there is no CO2 present in that photo, just that it is NOT visible. But, an image from NASA’s OCO-2 satellite wouldn’t have the same effect.
Geez. Who needs that ordinate anyway? “Science” now simplified by one entire dimension and we have art.
Bubba Cow:
Then from what you have said, the art of climate modelling should now officially be called: ‘CLIMATE ART MODELS’
Given that earth has not warming and given that they told us the current amount of CO2 concentration is worth ~2 degrees, couldn’t it then be argued that the ‘extra’ CO2 has prevented ~2 degrees of cooling which would have caused $X amount of climate damage so each ton of CO2 actually saved us $100’s? per ton?
Boils down to, “My B.S, is more outrageous than your B.S,”
…Their alternative formulation incorporated recent empirical findings suggesting that climate change could substantially slow economic growth rates…
Er… I thought ALL climate change mitigation proposals were DESIGNED to slow economic growth? That was always the hidden agenda.
They got away with it in the early years by claiming that ‘renewable energy’ would increase growth and jobs. We now have a host of proofs that it doesn’t.
This looks like another shot in the foot for the warmist side – they are starting to do this quite often, aren’t they…?
They merely omitted one word, accidentally on purpose –
“Their alternative formulation incorporated recent empirical findings suggesting that combating climate change could substantially slow economic growth rates…”
Duh. Poor countries emit very little CO2 compared to rich countries. Rich countries need to take the lead in developing renewable and low emission energy sources, and then pass these on to the poor countries after they’ve been able to develop further with “cheap” energy sources.
Any clue as to which “renewable and low emission energy sources” we should develop? I noticed that you didn’t include the words “safe, cheap and reliable” as metrics for these new resources.
Oh, but “cats kill lots of birds”, right? Do you defend that rationalization?
The recent image from the NASA CO2 observatory suggests you are wrong. Most of the central south of the continent is spewing CO2 in to the air. Who is right?
Africa that is!
You’re referring to about one month of data, I think. Let’s see how things average out over an annual cycle. Also, if the southern hemisphere emissions are primarily from savannas burning, the next question that needs to be asked is how much of this burning is natural (i.e., caused by lightening). Then, even if there is significant anthropogenic emissions, I still say let the poor countries develop (hopefully by managing their natural resources well), and the rich countries can offset their emissions.
Too funny Barry! So, in this case, the obervations are too short? LOL…serial…too funny!
OCO-2 Level 2 data is supposed to be available starting in March 2015. We’ll see.
“Rich countries need to take the lead in developing renewable and low emission energy sources”
No they don’t. No one does, rich or poor.
Now why not start with Stanford NOT taking oil money? You know it makes sense.
And then of course there’s the AGU http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/12/17/a-side-of-the-agu-fall-meeting-sure-to-cause-some-alarmists-to-go-postal/
Barry:
Your comment appears to contain zero intelligence, or I don’t understand your point, or both.
This wikipedia link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions) has some nifty sortable tables regarding carbon emission by country & per capita.
About 66% of world CO2 comes from (descending sequence): China, USA, EU, Russia, India – note 3 out of the 5 are not rich. Oh yea, and total USA CO2 is actually going down.
Per capita, USA is 10th, somewhere below Luxembourg.
Stats are pretty much a dog’s breakfast without considerations like tropical (Fiji) vs tundra (Canada) countries, or countries that produce goods people actually want to buy (USA vs Russia).
Oh yea, and most small countries are poor – they’d use more energy if they could (Latvia, Lybia, Albania)
“Duh. Poor countries emit very little CO2 compared to rich countries.”
India? China?
Uh, Barry, check your facts..
Not so, sattelite says CO2 is NOT being generated in developed countries, rather the underdeveloped equatorial regions are to blame. Australia, the apparent winner of the CO2 sinner sweepstakes, sinks over 20 x its emmission so that with biosequestration being up some 6 or 7 % since 1990 our increase in sequestration is now about 1.2 times our TOTAL emission. In nett terms Australia emits less CO2 than it did in 1850 thanks to CO2 fertilisation.
I have seldom read such self-evident BS as this.
Anyone with the slightest shred of the scientific method within them would shudder at such nonsense – snouts in the trough alarmists excepted of course.
Peter
Hope your comment was not for me…
“If climate change affects not only a country’s economic output, but also its growth, then that has a permanent effect that accumulates over time”
An assumption made without justification. GIGO model – assume your conclusion and voila, your conclusion is deemed correct.
Regulations lower growth rates. The social cost of this GIGO model and paper could be measured in hundreds of billions, if it leads to bad policies.
“…could actually be six times higher…”
Which means it could be six times lower, too.
Anytime we see “could be”…we know it’ll be worse than we thought.
Delusional thinking/science. Imaginary, biased assumptions and the complete opposite of reality.
The real world?
The Social Benefit of Carbon: $3.5 Trillion in Agricultural Productivity
http://www.co2science.org/education/reports/co2benefits/MonetaryBenefitsofRisingCO2onGlobalFoodProduction.pdf
I wish I lived in a nice warm place like Palo Alto.
If they are going to pick numbers out of their … errr … hat, why not go with something really scary like $1 million.
I’m surprised they didn’t throw in a few decimal places to make it look more scientific.
Could this all be about rationalizing a massive transfer of wealth from rich countries to poor countries. Also, could someone explain what the $220 per ton “social cost” actually means? Is this a worldwide number multiplied times the tonnage of CO2 put into the atmosphere by humans? What about natural causes of CO2? This whole thing seems like nonsense.
The only ‘social cos’ is providing these m0r0ns with money, a total waste of resources.
Instead we should be worried about the social cost for the faux agenda of the climate change/global warming advocates. The US budget alone exceeds $20 Billion annually to combat climate change. Add to that the cost of green energy and the taxes on energy that is needed to keep our economy running as well as the impact of preventing 3rd world economies from getting access to fossil fuels. Think of all the fossil fuels and government $$$ are expended flying all those elites around to periodic UN and other climate change, and alternative fuel conferences.
It’s simple, really… this research was paid for and it’s conclusions ordained, in order to support the statist platform, that the populace must be more heavily taxed and controlled. Government radio (NPR) and gov’t TV (PBS) will quickly begin touting this paper as proof that the gov’t (really, a handful of elites,) agenda must be advanced.
“Nature Climate Change” publishes a lot of low quality papers like this. In general what we see in both Nature journals and Scientific Anerican (owned by the same publishing house) is serial publishing of low quality material.
I’m used to seeing this type of work performed by undergrads. But I haven’t seen graduate students spend time performing this type of simulation and getting it published afterwards.
We also have to recall that an integrated assessment model isn’t a climate model. Its a dynamic model. Think of it as a very complex spreadsheet running with macros, and you’ll get an idea. I’ve assembled simple versions of these models, reviewed the manuals prepared for very complex versions such as DICE, and can confirm they are easy to modify to perform what if exercises.
The problem I see is the complete lack of support and verification for the internal logic, as well as the validity of what goes in the what if questions themselves.
How can we get our hands on the code and data to run one of these ourselves? If gradual students can do it, why not us. Why should universities have the exclusive voice in creating virtual reality?
You could try reading about DICE.
http://www.econ.yale.edu/~nordhaus/homepage/documents/DICE_Manual_103113r2.pdf
Fernando, thanks for the pointer to DICE. (the reply button in missing on your comment, so not sure where this will show up, sorry)
The DICE manual says it all:
“The DICE model views the economics of climate change from the perspective of neoclassical economic growth theory (see particularly Solow 1970). In this approach, economies make investments in capital, education, and technologies, thereby reducing consumption today, in order to increase consumption in the future. The DICE model extends this approach by including the “natural capital” of the climate system. In other words, it views concentrations of GHGs as negative natural capital, and emissions reductions as investments that raise the quantity of natural capital (or reduce the negative capital). By devoting output to emissions reductions, economies reduce consumption today but prevent economically harmful climate change and thereby increase consumption possibilities in the future.”
GHGs are “negative nature capital” emission reductions are “investments” and “harmful climate change” is assumed. I didn’t look too deep, but maybe somewhere in the function set they have a “grant auto-generate” button.
Stanford students are smart. They know how to suck funding out of the government funding trough. Well done, Stanford students. Keep this up and we taxpayers will pay for your 2 million dollar San Jose bungalow one day.
Well, the government grant research slurpers are not the ones buying the $2 million houses. Stanford works in wondrous ways. Their real business is technology transfer. After WWII a very smart prof, Dr. Fred Terman, set up a research (industrial) park on the property of Stanford, to capitalize on the talent coming out of the school. First big success was HP. Cisco, Sun, Intel, AMD and most of the Silicon Valley feeds (or has fed) off their technology research, turning it into companies. Jimbo is right on pointing out the corporate sponsors of Stanford research.
One clear example: The first DARPA challenge for autonomous vehicles (in the desert, remember?) was won by a vehicle designed and built at Stanford by some very, very smart students. Afterwards, the best were snapped up by the BMW/VW research labs (and others) that are located virtually on the campus. The second DARPA challenge was won be a VW vehicle, designed by the very same, now employed, engineers.
After an initial small slurp facilitated by the school, successful people and tech moves directly to private companies with stock options and public offerings, which is how engineers buy the $2 million “starter houses.”
If you want to make big money out of government slurping, you have to set up a company designed from the ground up to do mega-slurping. For that you need to go to the Stanford Business School. Then you can afford the $50 million “grownup” houses and laugh with your VC (venture capital) buddies about how the government overpaid for that crappy solar technology that nobody in the private sector would touch.
There is only one kind of quantifiable cost- ACTUAL COSTS.
Anything else is trying to calculate how much I like the colour blue.
How does this stuff get published?
Tell the people in China that the social cost of carbon is $220 a ton and they will laugh in your face. The US is living in a fools paradise. Carbon regulations will drive industry and jobs to China, weakening the US to the point of economic collapse.
This process is already well underway. China is a booming, modern economy, while the US continues to struggle. Compare Detroit with Shanghai. Tens of thousands of abandoned buildings as compared to one of the most modern cities on the planet.
There is a lot of hype over sustainable policies. The national debt is never mentioned. Yet it is the only true unsustainable policy. When you spend more than you earn, year after year after year, the end result is unsustainable.
Only the current near zero interests rates allow the debt to be maintained. When interest rates return to their past levels, as they must eventually, the US will wake up to find itself bankrupt.
You cannot spend yourself out of debt. No matter how high you run up the charges on your credit card, the balance will not go to zero, except by way of bankruptcy court.
You are hitting the nail on the head there. I remember when a certain Ontario NDP government tried to spend it’s way out of a recession. Ended up turning a 8 billion dollar deficit into a 40 billion dollar deficit in one four year term.
It’s
turtlesmodels all the way down…What future discount rate did they apply in their DICE model?
Paywalled, but check the references.
All IAMs are so laden with assumptions as to be able to create any answer. See MIT’s Pindyk paper critique or Dr. Murphys congressional testimony available oon YouTube. (Both available via the Hockeyschtick link upthread).
This new paper used negative agricultural impacts from the Lobell (also Stanford) papers. Those are fatally flawed, discussed at length in the climate change chapter of Gaia’s Limits. So put provably faulty extreme negatives, themselves predicated on GCMs that are too sensitive by half, into the manipulable DICE IAM, and Ph.D candidates can easily produce the catastrophic modelled result needed to be admitted to the CAGW academic priesthood, and get published in CAGW’s main academic propaganda organ.
GIGO.
When projecting economic or social impacts far into the future, you have to use a discount rate. The discount rate chosen largely determines the results of your analysis. If your discount rate is too small, you effectively end up valuing future lives more highly than people alive today. There has been debate over appropriate discount rates since at least the Stern Review in 2006.
Here is a non-paywalled link to a 2013 publication (Stanford lead author) that recommends using two discount rates — one for economic outcomes (presumed to be more objective) and one for social welfare outcomes (more subjective). In case the link won’t work for you, the title is “The Choice of Discount Rate for Climate Change Policy Evaluation” by Goulder and Williams.
http://web.stanford.edu/~goulder/Papers/Published%20Papers/Choice%20of%20Discount%20Rate%20for%20Cl%20Ch%20Policy%20Evals%20(Goulder-Williams,%20CCE%202012).pdf
I’ve discussed using two discount rates in the same run. When I bring it up I get blank stares from economists. I suppose they just don’t have enough exposure to real life.
Best summary so far, Rud. It doesn’t take much scholarship to come up with such stuff.
The worrying thing is that irrelevant and distorted nonsense like this is published, cited, re-cited, expanded upon, beatified, and finally incorporated into policy. Leaves me feeling pretty miserable.
‘social cost’ and ‘environmental cost’ calculations have been a most useful invention and can be deployed to justify just about any authoritarian intervention you desire.
Their paper is mainly an argument in economics and factors such as CO2 mitigation , expressed forcibly above and below , are dealt with by reference mainly to a paper by Schlenker and Roberts . The latter conducted a historical analysis of harvest data for corn and soybean correlated against growing season temperatures (US) and indeed established optimum temperatures for both crops , after which yields decline sharply . However S and R add a caveat , namely they have not, obviously, allowed for CO2 mitigation . For that one has to look elsewhere such as the formidable review by Long et al , on the results of CO2 enrichment on yields ; eg
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1569581/
and many other papers on the subject .
In open field studies the effect of CO2 enrichment does not follow the increased yields found in enclosed studies , it seems , nevertheless there is mitigation of the effects of temperature and it is disappointing that the students’ supervisors did not direct them in the direction of the Agriculture Dept ( Although to be fair they may cover that aspect more thoroughly in their theses) .
Neither do they allow for the work such as that at Monsanto on commercial development of heat resistant strains.
The episode shows that when writing economic analyses on problems that are basically technical or scientific an ignorance of the surrounding scientific literature can result in undesirable consequences , even if the analysis itself is conducted well by its own terms.
Did they consider both sides of the ledger?
Or did the Stanford School of Engineering’s graduating candidates just splashed into the gravy pool?
The sound of one hand clapping. Ka-Ching!