'Climate scientists' laid bare: ♪ Feeelings…nothing more than feelings ♫

With apologies to Morris Albert.

Joe Duggan. A “science communicator”, writes on his blog:

What follows are the words of real scientists. Researchers that understand climate change.


Kevin Walsh

Associate Professor and Reader, School of Earth Sciences

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I wish that climate change were not real.

This seems like a strange thing for a climate scientist to say, but it’s true.

If climate change were not real, we would not have to be concerned about it. We wouldn’t have to worry about the future of our water resources, already strained by over population. We wouldn’t have to worry about sea level rise increasing the flooding of our coastal cities and of low–lying, densely–populated areas of poor countries. Above all, we wouldn’t have to worry about climate change being yet another source of conflict in an already tense world.

Life would be so much simpler if climate change didn’t exist. But as scientists, we don’t have the luxury of pretending.

Kevin Walsh

Associate Professor and Reader

School of Earth Sciences

University of Melbourne


Anthony Richardson

Climate Change Ecologist

The University of Queensland

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How climate change makes me feel.

I feel a maelstrom of emotions

I am exasperated. Exasperated no one is listening.

I am frustrated. Frustrated we are not solving the problem.

I am anxious. Anxious that we start acting now.

I am perplexed. Perplexed that the urgency is not appreciated.

I am dumbfounded. Dumbfounded by our inaction.

I am distressed. Distressed we are changing our planet.

I am upset. Upset for what our inaction will mean for all life.

I am annoyed. Annoyed with the media’s portrayal of the science.

I am angry. Angry that vested interests bias the debate.

I am infuriated. Infuriated we are destroying our planet.

But most of all I am apprehensive. Apprehensive about our children’s future.

Associate Professor

Anthony J. Richardson

Climate Change Ecologist


Dr Ailie Gallant

School of Earth, Atmosphere and Environment

Monash University

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Dear Joe,

I feel nervous. I get worried and anxious, but also a little curious. The curiosity is a strange, paradoxical feeling that I sometimes feel guilty about. After all, this is the future of the people I love.

I get frustrated a lot; by the knowns, the unknowns, and the lack of action. I get angry at the invalid opinions that are all-pervasive in this age of indiscriminant information, where evidence seems to play second fiddle to whomever can shout the loudest. I often feel like shouting…

But would that really help? I feel like they don’t listen anyway. After all, we’ve been shouting for years.

I hate feeling helpless. I’m ashamed to say that, sometimes, my frustration leads to apathy. I hate feeling apathetic.

But sometimes I read things, or see things, from individuals, from communities like ‘1 million solar panels installed in Australian homes”, and optimism tickles.

I will keep doing my work. I will keep shouting in my own little way. I will be optimistic that we will do something about this, collectively. I live in hope that the climate changes on the graphs that I stare into every day wont be as bad as my data tells me, because we worked together to find a solution. All I can hope is that people share my optimism and convert it into Action.

Kind Regards,

Dr Ailie Gallant

School of Earth, Atmosphere and Environment

Monash University.


Professor Andrew Pitman

Director of the ARC Centre of Excellence for Climate System Science

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Dear Jo,

You ask me how climate change makes me feel.

I do not have a single answer.

In equal measure, climate change makes me feel frustrates that my community cannot overcome ignorance and apathy. I feel scared that I cannot trigger action. I feel scared about what the future brings. But most of all, to be honest, I feel challenged by the science, I feel invigorated by how bright my group is and I feel very lucky that each day brings new challenges to confront and sometimes to overcome.

A.J. Pitman

Professor, Climate Science at UNSW.


Dr Sarah Perkins

Climate Scientist, Extreme Events Specialist

University of New South Wales.

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My Dear Friend,

For sometime now I’ve been terribly worried. I wish I didn’t have to acknowledge it, but everything I have feared is happening. I used to think I was paranoid, but it’s true. She’s slipping away from us. She’s been showing signs of acute illness for quite a while, but no one has really done anything. Her increased erratic behaviour is something I’ve especially noticed. Certain behaviours that were only rare occurrences are starting to occur more often, and with heightened anger. I’ve tried to highlight these changes time and time again, as well as their speed of increase, but no one has paid attention.

It almost seems everyone has been ignoring me completely, and I’m not sure why. Is it easier to pretend there’s no illness, hoping it will go away? Or because they’ve never had to live without her, so the thought of death is impossible? perhaps they cannot see they’ve done this to her. We all have.

To me this is all false logic. How can you ignore the severe sickness of someone you are so intricately connected to and dependent upon. How can you let your selfishness and greed take control, and not protect and nurture those who need it most? How can anyone not feel an overwhelming sense of care and responsibility when those so dear to us are so desperately ill? How can you push all this to the back of your mind? This is something I will never understand. Perhaps I’m the odd one out, the anomaly of the human race. The one who cares enough, who has the compassion, to want to help make her better.

The thing is we can make her better!! If we work together, we can cure this terrible illness and restore her to her old self before we exploited her. But we must act quickly, we must act together. Time is ticking, and we need to act now.

Yours faithfully,

Dr Sarah Perkins

Climate Scientist, Extreme Events Specialist.

The University of New South Wales.


Emeritus Professor Tony McMichael

National Centre for Epidemiology and Population Health

Australian National University, College of Medicine, Biology and Environment

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Dear Joe

It’s hard to imagine that people are doing so much damage to the natural world. It’s sad when a society like ours can’t see further than its bank balance and stumbles blindly into a future when children won’t be able to enjoy the flowing rivers, mountain snow, coloured birds and bush animals. Don’t we have any responsibility for other creatures, forests and rivers? I’m rather ashamed of our behaviour.

It seems so silly to go on behaving like this – though, from hearing our politicians speak, it seems that making and consuming more and more is the point of life. Surely the dreadful heat we have suffered from in recent heatwaves, and the awful bushfires that have terrified rural communities in the past couple of years are telling us that something is going very wrong.

Scientist friends say it’s probably because we’re making the world hotter by adding ‘greenhouse gases’ into the air. So we are seriously harming the world around us and yet we understand how!

It’s really sad that some of our local children seem quite puzzled and worried by what they see on TV bout this and hearing what adults say. I hope my family and our community can try and help solve these frightening problems.

Sincerely,

Tony McMichael

Emeritus Professor, Australian National University


Associate Professor Katrin Meissner

Climate Change Research Centre, University of New South Wales

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Knowing how much is at stake, knowing that I am one of the few people who understand the magnitude of the consequences and then realizing that most of the people around me are oblivious. Some of the people are not only oblivious, they also do not want to understand. They have made up their mind, maybe based on the opinion of someone they trust, someone in their family, or a friend, maybe based on a political conviction, but certainly not based on facts.

It makes me feel sick. Looking at my children and realizing that they won’t have the same quality of life we had. Far from it. That they will live in a world facing severe water and food shortages, a world marked by wars caused by the consequences of climate change.

It makes me feel sad. And it scares me. It scares me more than anything else. I see a group of people sitting in a boat, happily waving, taking pictures on the way, not knowing that this boat is floating right into a powerful and deadly waterfall. It is still time to pull out  of the stream. We might lose some boat equipment but we might be able to save the people in the boat. But no one acts.

Time is running out.

Associate Professor Katrin Meissner

ARC Future Fellow


Professor Lesley Hughes

Department of Biological Sciences, Macquarie University

Founding Member of the Australian Climate Council

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I became a professional biologist because I just loved animals – watching them, catching them, studying them. I was the kid whose bedroom was full of jars and boxes of things that crawled and slithered and hopped. The notion that I could actually be paid for doing this, as an adult, was truly wonderful.

But where to for our species in the future? Our biodiversity is our life support system, each species a precious support system, each species a precious, irreplaceable heritage item. We have harvested and cleared and plundered and spoiled. Every year our natural capital declines a bit more as we squander our heritage and rob our descendants.

And now we have this new threat, likely to be the biggest one of all.

Climate change is likely to become the biggest species killer ever, impoverishing our planet and our race.

We have so much to lose.

Prof. Lesley Hughes


Dr Alex Sen Gupta

Climate Change Research Centre, University of New South Wales

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How does it make me feel?

I feel frustrated. The scientific evidence is overwhelming. We know what’s going on, we know why it’s happening, we know how serious things are going to get and still after so many years, we are still doing practically nothing to stop it.I feel betrayed by our leaders who show no leadership and who place ideology above evidence, willing to say anything to peddle their agendas – leaders who are at best negligent and at worst complicit in allowing this to happen with full knowledge of likely consequences. I feel bemused. That scientists who have spent years or decades dedicated to understanding how it all works are given the same credibility as poleticians, [sic] media commentators and industry spokes people with obvious vested interests and whose only credential is their ability to read discredited blogs.I feel concerned that unmitigated our inaction will cause terrible suffering to those least able to cope with change and that within my lifetime many of the places that make this planet so special – the snows on Kilimanjaro, the Great Barrier Reef, even the ice covered Arctic will be degraded beyond recognition – our legacy to the next generation.I also feel a glimmer of hope. China and the USA are starting to move in the right direction and beginning to show some global leadership on this issue, even if Australia is backtracking again to a position of laggard and obstructionist.

Alex Sen Gupta

Senior Lecturer (Oceanography)

Climate Change Research Centre

University of New South Wales


Professor Brendan Mackey

Director Of Griffith Climate Change Response Program

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I was unable to receive a hand written letter from Professor Mackey, but he kindly contributed the typed copy above.

Dear Earth,

Just a quick note to say thanks so much for the last 4 billion years or so. It’s been great! The planetary life support systems worked really well, the whole biological evolution thing was a nice surprise and meant that humans got to come into being and I got to exist!

I’m really sorry about the last couple of 100 years – we’ve really stuffed things up haven’t we! I though we climate scientist might be able to save the day but alas no one really took as seriously. Everyone wants to keep opening new coal mines and for some reason that escapes me are happy to ignore the fact that natural gas is a fossil fuel. Well, no one can say we didn’t try!

You’re probably quietly happy that “peak human” time has come and gone and it’s kind of all downhill got us now, though I guess you’re more than a bit miffed at what we’ve done to your lovely ecosystem (the forests and corals were a really nice touch by the way) and sorry again for the tigers, sharks etc.

In case you were wondering, our modeling suggests that your global biogeochemical cycles (especially the carbon one) should reach a new dynamic equilibrium in about 100,000 years or so. I guess it will be a bit of a rocky road until then but, oh well, no one said the universe was meant to be stable!

All the best and do try and maintain that “can do” attitude we love so much.

Prof Brendan G. Mackey, PhD

30 July 2014

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Two things:

1. Logic (Science) and emotion (feelings) are polar opposites. Mixing the two is a sure recipe for logical disaster. Ref: fMRI reveals reciprocal inhibition between social and physical cognitive domains. NeuroImage, 2012; DOI: 10.1016/j.neuroimage.2012.10.061

2. I feel like I want to hurl.

(h/t to Maurizio Morabito)

-Anthony

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Marose

Are these people all seeing the same psychiatrist?

MattN

I stopped reading at “Researchers that understand climate change”. No such animal exists.

hunter

Even if the question asked them to focus on their feelings it is still showing that these professionals are unbalanced and highly out of touch with reality. The misanthropic prejudice, the self-absorbed,self declared importance of how they see their work, the short term hysterical perspective they have on what climate is doing at this time. All their words illustrate while many of them are undoubtedly at an emotional level sincere, their work feeds their emotions, not their reason.

Old England

SDS – self delusional scientists.

DirkH

“Dr Sarah Perkins
Climate Scientist, Extreme Events Specialist
University of New South Wales.
My Dear Friend,
For sometime now I’ve been terribly worried. I wish I didn’t have to acknowledge it, but everything I have feared is happening. I used to think I was paranoid, but it’s true. ”
I would love to bold everything twice. I so love this. Hey they couldn’t have gotten anyone more predestined for that job. She must be so fun to watch.

Dr. Paul Mackey

Oh Dear,
I do hope Santa replies.
My (sur)namesake, Prof Brendan Mackey is a modeller it seems. I make my living from programming computer systems, usually trading systems for bonds and options. I know very well how computers can so very easily spue rubbish. Anyone remember Long Term Capital Management?
@Prof Brendan, I would look at that for an example of very misplaced faith in models.

Bozo

Some parts of Australian science aren’t what they used to be. I never regret that I dropped out of my PhD (at ANU) on modelling back in 1990.

PaulM

Pity he didn’t ask them if they had any empirical evidence that the current climate change is not natural. If they did have some good empirical evidence then they would probably get they action that they desire.

M Seward

Sniff, sniff…. sniffle…….. I feel so emotional. My fellow, educated Australians writing such heart rending insights into their humanity. As an an alumnus of USNW …. I so FEEEEL (sob sob) for these scientists now putting their hearts and souls into saving us from potential catastrophic and anthropogenically caused climate change…. NOT.
What an obviously orchestrated bit of utterly childish drivel. It shows the sniffling, self important little sook level at which these disgusting creeps are prepared to operate at to get their way and maintain their status and privilege..
Honestly, it is like listening to paedophile priests saying bring unto me the little childrem….

Tommy Roche

Dear Earth, I think it’s high time you had a clearout of your “friends” list. Stay cool bro. Love Tommy xxx.

I suppose when you have no understanding of thermodynamics, heat & mass transfer and fluid dynamics (which are engineering subjects and under pin analysis of climate and weather) and your job hinges on other peoples assumptions which could be shown to be incorrect (in fact can be proved to be incorrect) then you could be worried about the your future, you could be anxious. Not one of these so-called scientists has appropriate qualifications, experience or understanding. Those who live in Queensland could be in breach of the Professional Engineers Act (applies to everyone in Queensland including the Crown) and the Public Sector Ethics Act (applies to Universities, government organisations and contractors to government) which come under the criminal code. Under the Professional Engineers Act to provide an engineering service (which includes analysis of engineering data) one needs to be registered, to be competent in the area of your service and comply with a code of ethics.

Rob Dawg

There is a common reaction in the letters. They are frustrated no one believes them. The truth is they are ineffectual in making the case for their opinions to prevail. Appeal to authority positions are notorious for generating pushback yet they seem surprised by the reaction.

latecommer2014

I feel like they are sincere, emotional, and wrong….. The fragile earth they have constructed is not the real earth, but the virtual earth made by computer. I also feel that anything that happens in the world is the fault of mans action in their minds, and that this self loathing has crippled their scientific point of view.
I feel happy to be a geologist with a longer perspective.
I feel concerned that mitigation efforts to prepare for the colder climate coming are not being done.

luvthefacts

What a synchronised load of nonsense. And to think that this group of sad souls might be also wondering about their own livelihoods as the Government is shedding some of the wasteful fat that clings to the soft parts of the Australian Universities.

Paul in Sweden

Why can’t these people just get together with Bob Geldof, do a We are the Climate Saviors rock tour, sell a few T-Shirts, feel all warm and fuzzy, be done with it and leave the rest of society out of their non-sense?

Erny72

This post is the most embarrassing I’ve read on WUWT; all that chunder inducing waffle came from Australian academics?
How many mincers are we breeding in the lucky country today?
The only small comfort is that none of those sob stories were signed by professors from my old University; one of whom observed during a talkback show on a local outpost of ABC radio that anyone frightened of the reported rise in the atmospheric concentration of CO2 should panic when ever they opened a can of Coke in their longue room, at which point the call was disconnected because of ‘technical difficulties’ and the talking head from Greenpeace got started.

SasjaL

… real scientists. Researchers that understand climate change.
😀

Thanks for the mention Anthony. This sad story suggests a specific kind of individual is attracted to research climate change for a living. But hey, I am no Lewandosky, what do I know about psychology.
Furthermore it indicates science communicators are as effective and as attached to the world as community organizers, one of whom has been wreaking havoc the world over since promising change a few years ago. But again, what do I know the Nobel Peace Prize committee wouldn’t know already.

lawrence Cornell

You almost want to feel sorry for the poor sadly deluded (read indoctrinated) “scientists” … until you realize that their favorite solution to their personal dilemma is to end or diminish YOUR existence in order to improve THEIR OWN.

Robin Hewitt

This is wonderful. If these people are disappointed and frustrated that we are not stupid enough to fund and support solutions suggested by models that have lost all touch with reality, maybe there is still hope. Phillip K Dick defined reality for us, “Reality is everything that doesn’t go away when you stop believing in it”. Delusion is believing something to be true despite all evidence pointing to the contrary.

Ian Sloan

When science and facts don’t cut the mustard …. try emotion !!
cue tears

Alba

Based on existing real-life date, I believe that a hurricane could inflict immense physical damage and could result in many deaths. I feel very sad about the prospect of these things actually happening.
Could anyone tell me how these two things are incompatible: my belief about the destructive power of a hurricane (based on real life data) and my feelings as a result.
I don’t see why these people should not have the feelings they state. Do any of them state that their understanding of climate change is based on those feelings? Is it not that their feelings are based on their understanding of climate change?
So, by all means slate them for their understanding of climate change but let’s not criticise where criticism is not due.

This is why we have Schadenfraude

Somebody

I feel sick.

Craig

Astounding, these people have doctorates? Really? Do these people really go home and cry into their pillow every night, wailing at the injustice of being ignored and ridiculed because their piss ass models refuse to work? THIS.IS.COMPLETELY.F’ING.INSANE!!

philhippos

All jobsworths worried about keeping their sinecures.

Dave Ward

“1 million solar panels installed in Australian homes”
Installed IN homes??? I suppose it will make them easier to clean. And, like in Spain, they will generate power after dark – just turn on the light, and hey presto!

Chris Curnow

I notice there are no geologists in this unhappy collection

Alan the Brit

Marose says:
August 21, 2014 at 3:52 am
Are these people all seeing the same psychiatrist?
Exactly! If they feel all those they should be a UK structural engineer! They have it easy me thinks!

“2. I feel like I want to hurl.”
The effects of hurling on “climate change” have yet to be quantified.
“I used to think I was paranoid, but it’s true. ”
It is true – you are paranoid. We have an accord.

steveta_uk

Bizarre to read these weeping souls bemoaning that they are being completely ignored by everyone and politicians will do nothing, whereas a few minutes ago I was reading about how as an EU resident, from next month I cannot buy a vacuum cleaner with a motor more powerfull than 1600W, and that by 2017 I will be limited to 900W cleaners.
Isn’t this politicians “doing something”?

latecommer2014

It is natural for a liberal mind to think and feel on the emotional level, and natural to believe that “feeling” makes them a better person than those who do not “feel”. Nothing new here

I often wake up from a Climate Change nightmare, usually involving trying to explain the science to someone. I used to worry about Climate Change, back when it was global cooling. Now my concern is that these charlatans will get away with this junk science. But I have a plan, and I just spent a chunk of money improving my computer hardware to increase my productivity on software development for my plans implementation.
P.S. You can participate in the feelings here :
http://isthishowyoufeel.weebly.com/how-do-you-feel.html

Johna Till Johnson

“I get worried and anxious, but also a little curious. The curiosity is a strange, paradoxical feeling that I sometimes feel guilty about. ”
That’s the problem right there. A scientist who feels guilty about feeling curious.
Intellectual curiosity is the foundation of science. It’s the source of all discoveries and inventions.( “I wonder why…? I wonder if…?”)
A scientist who has been brainwashed into feeling guilty about feeling curious isn’t practicing science, whatever else s/he might be doing. It might be scienc-y,with graphs and papers and conferences and stuff, but it’s not science.

M Courtney

If our Australian friends are a little embarrassed by this, I do have something complimentary to say about these esteemed researchers.
They do have good handwriting.
Australian academia should be proud of its achievements.

Graphite

That last guy has beautiful handwriting; way ahead of the scribblers.

NikFromNYC

Wonderful additional example of straight up desperate bargaining stage of grief, as they project the ongoing collapse of their own world view out onto the whole planet and the culture that surrounds them. In this stage, prior to depression, they are indeed expected to double down on dumb, to grasp for anything they can to restore their former stages of first denial and then anger, and only after depression will they be able to accept that they enabled a scam to balloon into a madness of crowds self-organizing money pit which they cashed in on for both money and fame compared to having the same old boring careerist third rate scientific careers. It was Climategate and hide the decline and threats of data destruction done did it, pah, not apathy or denial or big oil money misinformation. At this late stage, every one of these people cannot deny being fully aware that nearly all the major headline claims turned out to be fraudulent, coming out of the central mafia like hockey stick team, Steig’s red Antarctica and now Marcott’s faux vindication of Michael Mann’s life work being bold examples. Their real demon is the upcoming youthful backlash against them and indeed loss of family income, as their halos turn into horns in the eyes of a generation of indoctrinates who didn’t expect science itself to willfully deceive them.

Village Idiot

Re 1:
Climate scientists should have their emotions surgically removed, then they’d see the truth.
Re 2: “I feel like I want to hurl.”
Me too, Tony, not because of the same reason as you, but

I’d be crying too, if I’d planned on being on a good thing until the end of my days, and the end was looming well before I expected. Poor things, I guess a degree in climate quackery might get them a good job flipping burgers.

George McFly......I'm your density

What a bunch of emotional little sissies. For God’s sake grow up

jhborn

Science is so hard that very few scientists can do it. Unfortunately, very few of us non-scientists realize that.

This is why rational arguments and scientific evidence have so little effect on this crowd. You are going to tell a group ofdelusional paranoid narcissists with delusions of grandeur that the problems are all in their heads?
This is why they go on about mass funding conspiracies – to them, the very fact that anyone is against them is PROOF of a conspiracy. They FEEL that there is a vast conspiracy opposing them, so there MUST be one.
This conflict will never end with the warmists changing their minds – they are as incapable of that as they are incapable of gaining control of their emotions. Thorazine or prozac would have far more of an effect on their positions than any hard evidence we can show ever will.

In actual fact, the whole scare of AGW is about feelings. Not science. Mann’s “feelings” were hurt so he is suing everyone and everything. We must “feel” for the endangered species (except when minced or fricasseed by non Fossil fuel energy generation). We must feel for the future children. Etc., etc., etc.
Some like to complain about Steven Mosher or Nick Stokes and their view. But thank god at least they discuss the issue from the standpoint of the science, and not “feelings”.

Scott

It doesn’t matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn’t matter how smart you are. If it doesn’t agree with experiment, become even more entrenched in your position by scientifically expressing your feelings of disappointment in a cursive writing style while blaming others for their failure to grasp the science, to give your scientific opponents one final chance to voluntarily concede before resorting to the final scientific option, brute force.

Jared

The movie ‘Pretty Woman’ was on the other night and what was the main point of that 1990 movie? Do not let emotions get involved in your work. These climastrologers are way too emotional to be doing their job right. Las Vegas casinos would love to welcome these irrational climastrologers into their buildings to gamble. Their model says red is coming up next and they really feel it will.

PhilCP

Alba says:
August 21, 2014 at 4:24 am
Being sad about some tragic event is not the issue here. There will always be tragedy and death in the world (hurricanes, car accidents, cancers), but ‘feeling’ that reducing CO2 is going to change that is beyond ridiculous (and profoundly un-scientific).
The truth is, many of the actions that are proposed to fight CO2 will actually make the world poorer, and less able to cope with climate events like hurricanes, resulting in more tragedy. And that makes me sad.

starzmom

Is there any particular reason these esteemed scientists with fancy degrees print instead of writing? Most of these letters were as neat as a third grader’s paper. At least compared to when I was in third grade. Then we learned to write. They also make almost as much sense. I expect third graders to let feelings guide their actions.

On a serious note, it is somewhat disheartening to see that some “climate scientists” are expressing their positions in such an emotional manner. Especially when we here on WUWT see real scientists, such as Richard S. Courtney and Dr. Robert G. Brown, express the honest truth that we still don’t know enough regarding our chaotic climate to be losing sleep worrying that “we are all gonna die” because atmospheric CO2 levels have gone from 3 parts in 10,000 to 4 parts in 10,000.

These people are activist’s not scientist’s, these bad actors are trying to prove what they “feel” is true, scientist’s try to disprove theories.

Chip

That made for uncomfortable reading.
But what really struck me is that they have all subscribed to the catastrophic variant of AGW. With so much uncertainty emerging around the the influence of CO2 on temperature, they haven’t blinked and remain convinced – literally – that life on this planet is coming to an end.
I pity the sober, rational climate scientists out there. It must be like working with children.