So far in 2014, record low temperatures outpace record highs nearly 2-1 in the USA

Numbers released today by NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center show that not only has July been abnormally cool in the USA, but so has 2014 in general. For the last 30 days, there have been 574 record highest temperatures in the USA, and 1,726 record lowest. A ratio of 3 to 1, indicating that July was very cool. But, the year so far has also been cool.

So far for the USA year to date, the numbers of record lows outpace the highs two to one.

This year, here have been been 12,644 daily record lowest temperatures versus 6,615 record highest temperatures in the USA, a ratio of 1.91 to 1.0.

For all types of high and low daily records for the year to date, there were 29,372 cold records versus  16,761 warm records, a ratio of 1.75 to 1.0

If all high and low daily record types are considered for the last 365 days, cold still outpaces warm. There are 46,712 cold records versus 36,650 warm records.

The ratios for monthly all time records also see cold records outpacing warm ones.

From the National Climatic Data Center:

The summaries below list the number of records broken for several recent periods is summarized in this table and updated daily. Due to late-arriving data, the number of recent records is likely underrepresented in all categories, but the ratio of records (warm to cold, for example) should be a fairly strong estimate of a final outcome. There are many more precipitation stations than temperature stations, so the raw number of precipitation records will likely exceed the number of temperature records in most climatic situations.

NCDC record high-low table

For all time records, cold and warm records are about evenly balanced for 2014, with 28 warm records year-to-date versus 32 cold records.

As mentioned earlier by NCDC recent records (30 days or less) are probably underrepresented.

NCDC record high-low table all time

Source: http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cdo-web/datatools/records

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July 31, 2014 3:57 pm

When global warming starts to make us cold…..that’s when I demand action! Someone….knit me a sweater!!!!

Rick K
July 31, 2014 3:58 pm

Cooling temperatures are to be expected in a warming world.
(do I really need a /sarc tag?)

Editor
July 31, 2014 4:08 pm

Brrrr!

Bill_W
July 31, 2014 4:17 pm

Changy-change is to be expected in a changy world. I may even change this theory if I need to.

July 31, 2014 4:21 pm

For educated people, these CAGW devotees sure can be dumb. Did they not realise the entire gravy train relied on the climate/weather only going up in temp?
go figure,
That was always going to be a sucker bet…

July 31, 2014 4:22 pm

I wonder if emulating the infantile weather as climate indicator of warming advocates is the best longer-term approach. At some point you would hope such superficiality would be more popularly rejected.

JimS
July 31, 2014 4:32 pm

But, but, but … the USA represents only 2% of the surface of the world. Just wait when the final GLOBAL temperatures are released for 2014. It’ll be touted as one of top 10 warmest years since records have been kept. That is what the media will report, and that is what the public will drink in.

mpainter
July 31, 2014 4:32 pm

Anthony:
NCDC will find a way, I’ll bet. Before this climate business and the perversion of science, who would have believed that temperature records would be “cooked” for propaganda purposes? But now we see that as commonplace.

July 31, 2014 4:33 pm

“Record temperatures are the one thing that NCDC can’t “adjust”, they are absolute and fixed.”
But what agency does keep all the records. For example, what is the record low for this date in Knoxville, TN and who keeps that official record? Or to put it differently, if I wanted to look at record lows for this date across the southeastern U.S. where is that data kept?

redc1c4
July 31, 2014 4:33 pm

they’ll get right on fixing this data, just you wait & see.

Robert Wykoff
July 31, 2014 4:40 pm

There could be a 1 mile thick sheet of ice stretching from the pole to the equator, and it will still be the hottest year evah

July 31, 2014 4:49 pm

Theme song for CAGW, Oh Susanna.

James Strom
July 31, 2014 4:55 pm

john robertson says:
July 31, 2014 at 4:49 pm
Let’s have a rousing chorus:
It rained all night the day I left
The weather it was dry
The sun so hot, I froze to death
Susanna, don’t you cry.

John M
July 31, 2014 5:00 pm

Boy, talk about bad timing.
Michael Mann writing in an op-ed in our local paper yesterday:
“If it’s seemed warm to you of late, you’d be right. It is warm — in southeastern Pennsylvania, throughout the state and around the world.”
Maybe someone sent him an e-mail saying “We’ve got to make this July cold spell go away.”
Or perhaps his mailbox his full of his “enlightened” supporters pointing out to him that weather is not climate.
Na-a-a-a-h

treeoflife
July 31, 2014 5:01 pm

Four biggest lies told in world today:
1) Liberals care about the poor and minorities
2) The economy is getting better
3) Man is creating global warming
4) Homosexuality is a form of ethnicity and not a behavior

littlepeaks
July 31, 2014 5:08 pm

What is the number of monitoring stations from which these data are derived?

Bruce Cobb
July 31, 2014 5:10 pm

The iceman cometh. He doesn’t give a sheet about “carbon”.

R. Shearer
July 31, 2014 5:11 pm

Outside of the EPA hearings in Denver yesterday, Gore’s “The Climate Reality Project” was giving out ice cream as part of its “I’m Too Hot” campaign. In real life, it should have been giving out hot chocolate instead, as the morning began in the 50’s and the record low temperature high (62F) set for the date was set.

noaaprogrammer
July 31, 2014 5:20 pm

My sister posted from Denver yesterday that it was definitely sweater and jacket weather.

July 31, 2014 5:28 pm

It has been a pleasant summer.

bluesky
July 31, 2014 5:30 pm

Whatever it is a carbon tax will fix it.

July 31, 2014 5:30 pm

The good news is the a/c was on twice this summer. Conserving power, sleeping at night and damning the GW crowd. Does it get any better than this?

Reds
July 31, 2014 5:32 pm

Climate = THE WEATHER Prevailing in an area……THE WEATHER….Google climate definition…..now where are those Democlowns who keep trying to say climate and THE WEATHER are different????
Democrats are so dim that they have just now figured out that THE WEATHER changes…..
The synonym for Climate is THE WEATHER conditions……..wet weather = wet climate, dry weather = dry climate….THE WEATHER!!!!!!Of course manmade global warming is a lie.
The lying never stops with the whackdoodle alarmists….

Reds
July 31, 2014 5:44 pm

It was 48 degrees last night when I was camping in central PA.
Can any global warming alarmist tell me which of the three laws of thermodynamics causes record cold temps IF it is WARMING ALL OVER THE ENTIRE GLOBE?
You alarmists do know what the term GLOBAL means right? I doubt you do, just like none of you knowthat Climate IS THE WEATHER prevailing in an area!

nameless
July 31, 2014 5:52 pm

A very long time ago humans learned how to burn things. It allowed them to survive the last Ice Age and unwittingly postpone the next one. That is the most inconvenient of all truths.

July 31, 2014 6:16 pm

To the person asking who keeps track of the records, when I used to write weather reports for a weekly paper, I would get all the temp data from the county road commission. They track highs and lows, precipitation, etc. They need to know what the weather is doing for road maintenance, particularly during snowy winters.

Jimbo
July 31, 2014 6:22 pm

They will find a way to make the ‘necessary adjustments’. Record cold will be converted into a tropical heatwave.

Richard Day
July 31, 2014 6:25 pm

As pleasant as this summer has been, it will be proclaimed as one of the hottest summers on record. I have dibs on #6.

July 31, 2014 6:28 pm

Where’s Zeke, Mosher and Stokes when you need them to explain this away? 😉

July 31, 2014 6:32 pm

When the temperatures are unusually cool the climate alarmists attribute it to weather instead of climate. When the temps are high they say it is climate change or global warming.

Jimbo
July 31, 2014 6:41 pm

Just this July we had this wonderful story from heatwave ravaged Russia.

“Swimsuits for snow boots: Freak summer snow & hail hit Siberia, Urals (PHOTOS, VIDEO)”
http://rt.com/news/172468-freaky-snow-urals-siberia/

July 31, 2014 6:54 pm

It was reported today that here in Central Florida, our average temperature this July was dead nuts on to the 30 year average. We’re trending average.

Sun Spot
July 31, 2014 7:09 pm

but, but, but the models show accelerating global warming. This dead stop for 17 years must be adjusted away until the weather reflects what the models tell us is happening.
btw; Ringo Florida being dead on 30 year average this July, is just weather not climate.
/sarc

john piccirilli
July 31, 2014 7:19 pm

Do these clowns ever go outside. This continues to be be the coolest year i can recall, and i’m no spring chicken.

Dave
July 31, 2014 7:25 pm

The warmers want the carbon tax and the facts be D@$ned. Every year this plot to tax carbon based energy to make the rich richer and keep the poor, poor is more and more evident. MAN MADE GLOBAL WARMING IS NOT HAPPENING. NEITHER IS MAN MADE CLIMATE CHANGE.
Climate has been changing because of force way beyond the influence of human being millions of years ago. There is proof of it all over the globe. There have been cooling and warming trends over the millennia before man ever built his first campfire.
Wise up people… the warmer fear mongers must be confronted. This continued lie has become a cult, a religion of the left wherein facts are irrelevant….

Leon Brozyna
July 31, 2014 7:29 pm

Summer … what’s that?
All this chill in the air … must be a spell of cold weather, except for that warm climate out Oregon way.

July 31, 2014 7:34 pm

Anthony Watts says:
July 31, 2014 at 4:22 pm
Record temperatures are the one thing that NCDC can’t “adjust”, they are absolute and fixed. Either there’s a record high/low on a day, or there isn’t. No homogenization, TOBs, or other adjustments need to be done.

Wait, when there is a “record” temp, the data doesn’t need to be “adjusted”, but when the same station(s) record non-record temps they do need to be adjusted?
I’m so confused!

KevinK
July 31, 2014 7:36 pm

Jeeze, it’s almost like the weather varies, and it’s really hard to predict it more than a few days into the future. Of course, I do not have a super computer or a “climate model”, so I guess I’m just a “rube”, but it sure has been a bit “colder than expected” around these parts lately,
Like the old (really old) joke in Upstate NY; “What do you do in the summer ? Well… if the summer happens on a weekend, we have a picnic”…..
Ok, I’m off to tune up the snowblower now, I think I might need it in a few months….
Cheers, Kevin (Note; Al Gore, please stay the heck away from here…)

North of 43 and south of 44
July 31, 2014 7:41 pm

Hey every one look —————————————>
ENSO Meter is headed to La Nina conditions.

busseja
July 31, 2014 7:55 pm

See OBAMA’s programs are working 😉

Alan Robertson
July 31, 2014 7:56 pm

North of 43 and south of 44 says:
July 31, 2014 at 7:41 pm
Hey every one look —————————————>
ENSO Meter is headed to La Nina conditions.
___________________
The ENSO meter is decidedly neutral, right now, but hasn’t moved in several days.

Eve
July 31, 2014 7:58 pm

I have my own way of measurement. It is called the number of nights I sleep without a comforter. So far this summer in Canada, it is 3. Last winter in the Bahamas, I used a comforter 2 nights. Last summer in Canada, the total without a comforter was 5. The two summers before that were 4 and 4. The last nice summer was 2010, but I did not write down the number of nights without a comforter then. 2009 was cold and 2008 was cold. I don’t remember 07 but I do remember that 06 and 05 were warm but my mother in law was up from Florida in August in 05 and almost froze. I also remember as a kid in the cooling period, summers were warm from May to end of Sept. Somebody is doing something strange with our temperature records.

July 31, 2014 8:00 pm

The climate debate was locked into stupid almost from inception. The very notion of the average surface temperature driving or a reflection broad climate is close to nonsense. At least in the recent time frame commonly debated which of course is a cherry pick as well.

lee
July 31, 2014 8:01 pm

North of 43 and south of 44 says:
July 31, 2014 at 7:41 pm
Hey every one look —————————————>
ENSO Meter is headed to La Nina conditions.
More like La Nada

clipe
July 31, 2014 8:31 pm

So who are we to believe? For a final word, I turned to the greatest climate change scientist of all, Dr David Viner, one-time senior research scientist at the climatic research unit of the University of East Anglia, who predicted in 2000 that, within a few years, winter snowfall would become “a very rare and exciting event”.
However, he was trapped under a glacier in Stockport, so was unable to comment at the time the Telegraph went to press.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/seanthomas/100222487/when-it-comes-to-climate-change-we-have-to-trust-our-scientists-because-they-know-lots-of-big-scary-words/

Alan Robertson
July 31, 2014 8:31 pm

Here in central Oklahoma, at least 2 record cools have been recorded this month, with a daily low average, a daily low min. and I saw a reference that we’re about to set a record for the coolest July, in a state where 60+ days of 100+F heat waves have been seen. Tomorrow, the 1st of August is only forecast to reach 83F, Life is good.
None of this info amounts to much, though. Just 2 yrs ago, 2012 saw both the hottest day recorded in the state (113F) as well as the lowest (-20F), so the best that can be said for the weather out here in the middle of the continent is that it’s a crap shoot.

Ed Martin
July 31, 2014 8:55 pm

Has it got Sunspot, New Mexico yet?

July 31, 2014 8:59 pm

Ignore it, “global warming” is REAL and the earth is only getting hotter, all because of humans! Damn science! Believe the insane leftist lies instead!

July 31, 2014 9:31 pm

Alan Robertson says:
July 31, 2014 at 8:31 pm
“None of this info amounts to much, though. Just 2 yrs ago, 2012 saw both the hottest day recorded in the state (113F) as well as the lowest (-20F), so the best that can be said for the weather out here in the middle of the continent is that it’s a crap shoot.”
There is room to agree and disagree here. But neither might be what you may presently think……
First, what kind of weather/climate are we supposed to be experiencing, were it not for the vaunted couplings of CO2 with climate? Well, that might be:
““In terrestrial records from Central and Eastern Europe the end of the Last Interglacial seems to be characterized by evident climatic and environmental instabilities recorded by geochemical and vegetation indicators. The transition (MIS 5e/5d) from the Last Interglacial (Eemian, Mikulino) to the Early Last Glacial (Early Weichselian, Early Valdai) is marked by at least two warming events as observed in geochemical data on the lake sediment profiles of Central (Gro¨bern, Neumark–Nord, Klinge) and of Eastern Europe (Ples). Results of palynological studies of all these sequences indicate simultaneously a strong increase of environmental oscillations during the very end of the Last Interglacial and the beginning of the Last Glaciation. This paper discusses possible correlations of these events between regions in Central and Eastern Europe. The pronounced climate and environment instability during the interglacial/glacial transition could be consistent with the assumption that it is about a natural phenomenon, characteristic for transitional stages. Taking into consideration that currently observed ‘‘human-induced’’ global warming coincides with the natural trend to cooling, the study of such transitional stages is important for understanding the underlying processes of the climate changes.” http://eg.igras.ru/files/f.2010.04.14.12.53.54..5.pdf
But what if CO2 is the heathen devil gas it is presently made out to be? Well then…
“The possible explanation as to why we are still in an interglacial relates to the early anthropogenic hypothesis of Ruddiman (2003, 2005). According to that hypothesis, the anomalous increase of CO2 and CH4 concentrations in the atmosphere as observed in mid- to late Holocene ice-cores results from anthropogenic deforestation and rice irrigation, which started in the early Neolithic at 8000 and 5000 yr BP, respectively. Ruddiman proposes that these early human greenhouse gas emissions prevented the inception of an overdue glacial that otherwise would have already started.”
conclude Muller and Pross (2007) http://folk.uib.no/abo007/share/papers/eemian_and_lgi/mueller_pross07.qsr.pdf
which necessarily brings us to:
“Investigating the processes that led to the end of the last interglacial period is relevant for understanding how our ongoing interglacial will end, which has been a matter of much debate…..”
“The onset of the LEAP occurred within less than two decades, demonstrating the existence of a sharp threshold, which must be near 416 Wm2, which is the 65oN July insolation for 118 kyr BP (ref. 9). This value is only slightly below today’s value of 428 Wm2. Insolation will remain at this level slightly above the inception for the next 4,000 years before it then increases again.” http://www.researchgate.net/publication/7666733_A_late_Eemian_aridity_pulse_in_central_Europe_during_the_last_glacial_inception/file/e0b495241f29d14e8a.pdf
Which more or less confirms your “crap shoot” hypothesis.
GHGs either can or cannot mitigate glacial inception. It is no more complicated or simple than that. Period.
a) If GHGs can get us over the next ~4,000 years of glacial inception risk, then why are we having this discussion at all?
b) If GHGs can’t vault us across the next ~4,000 years of glacial inception risk, then why are we having this discussion at all?
You are right, it is indeed a crap shoot. But maybe not necessarily the one expected…..

July 31, 2014 9:58 pm
ggm
July 31, 2014 10:01 pm

Anthony, we’ve just had the first spotless day in this solar cycle (since it ramped up)
http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/ftpdir/latest/DSD.txt
Maybe Leif can answer this – considering we are at about solar max at the moment – isn’t this highly unusual to have a spotless day ???

fhsiv
July 31, 2014 10:06 pm

Anecdotes from So Cal.
Only a few hot days in the coastal valleys so far this summer.
Some of the deciduous trees already beginning to drop their leaves. (Maybe because of the drought?)
But, the large wing of geese flying south this morning got me thinking,,,

ren
July 31, 2014 10:43 pm

Eve ,
important for Canada is also the development of the Gulf Stream.
http://www.opc.ncep.noaa.gov/Loops/GRTOFS/currents/GRtofs_Curr_Atl_03_Day_flash.shtml

ren
July 31, 2014 10:54 pm
ren
July 31, 2014 11:00 pm

Or in the Arctic will be ice record this winter?
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/arctic.sea.ice.interactive.html

pat
July 31, 2014 11:14 pm

posting for the claims of of high temps in Europe based on WSI data using the GFS model, whatever that is.
btw people paying attention would know by now that the EU placed no sanctions whatsoever on physical energy, yet –
1 Aug: Bloomberg: EU Power Set for Biggest Gain in 10 Months on Sanctions
By Marek Strzelecki, Jesper Starn and Julia Mengewein
European power prices for next year are headed for the biggest monthly gains since September amid concern sanctions against Russia will boost the cost of coal and gas, raising production costs at utilities…
“Traders bought in expectation of drastic sanctions against Russia and the potential impact on supply of gas and coal to Europe,” Nicolai Wuesten, a power market analyst at Energieunion GmbH, said yesterday by phone from Schwerin, Germany. “The market is nervous, because we are depending on Russian commodities.” …
“When sanctions were decided, the contract started falling again,” Wuesten said. ***“Traders were buying the rumor and selling the fact.”…
German average temperatures next week are forecast at 20 degrees Celsius (68 degrees Fahrenheit), 1.4 degrees above the seasonal norm, according to WSI data using the GFS model. The average for northwest Europe and the U.K. will exceed the seasonal norm of 18.5 degrees by 1.2 degrees, it showed. Temperatures in the Nordic region will average 21.8 degrees Celsius, 5.3 degrees above the seasonal norm, according to the model…
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-31/eu-power-set-for-biggest-gain-in-10-months-amid-russia-sanctions.html

ren
August 1, 2014 12:01 am

Pat
As I showed above, by the end of this year, the temperature in Western Europe will fall quickly.

John M. Ware
August 1, 2014 1:27 am

Here in central Virginia, July averaged 3.5 degrees F below the “long-term” average; a cool month. Highest temp for any day was 95; hot, but nowhere near a record. A couple of days ago the low was 56, two degrees less than the official record of 58. Probably the official record for July, taken at Richmond International Airport, won’t support my claim; I record the temps, precip, and other conditions at Mechanicsville, about 10 miles northeast of the airport as the crow flies. In the year since I started my record, there have been no record high temps either set or tied, and at least half a dozen record lows. Purely anecdotal, from a dot on the map; but supporting the general observations from elsewhere.

Bob Barker
August 1, 2014 2:24 am

Ah Americans once again thinking that the world revolves around your country. Let’s put this in perspective shall we? Norilsk (a city in northern Siberia) just broke a record for the hottest summer temperature ever recorded. You can read about it here (bonus ladies in bikinis).
http://siberiantimes.com/ecology/casestudy/news/norilsk-breaks-records-for-arctic-heat-in-a-new-sign-of-changing-weather-patterns/
But don’t let reality get in the way of your Fox news fantasy world.

August 1, 2014 2:45 am

Bob Barker,
Fox news is not conservative enough for me.

August 1, 2014 4:00 am

ggm says:
“Anthony, we’ve just had the first spotless day in this solar cycle (since it ramped up)
http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/ftpdir/latest/DSD.txt
Maybe Leif can answer this – considering we are at about solar max at the moment – isn’t this highly unusual to have a spotless day ???”
It’s not unusual for weak cycles, see the daily ssn during previous weak cycles (SC 14 for example). It can drop to zero even at/around the cycle max.
http://www.climate4you.com/images/SIDC%20DailySunspotNumberSince1900.gif

Nick
August 1, 2014 4:58 am

I am a government paid climate scientologist …… for the next 5 years, I predict partly cloudy conditions with a chance of outright fraud ….
1350+ Peer-Reviewed Papers Supporting Skeptic Arguments Against ACC/AGW Alarm
http://www.populartechnology.net/2009/10/peer-reviewed-papers-supporting.html

August 1, 2014 5:22 am

a cold summer was predicted at the linked website, when everybody was saying hot, hot, hot. They also predicted a stock crash. hmmm. See all predictions here:
http://www.frontlineofdefense.com/10-summer-predictions

Bruce Cobb
August 1, 2014 5:33 am

Oh look, a Warmatard. Always fun when a cognitive-dissonance impaired Warmist troll drops by, with their obligatory “Fox News” straw man ad hom. They seem to be getting scarcer and scarcer.
Perhaps they should be put on the endangered specious list.

North of 43 and south of 44
August 1, 2014 6:02 am

Alan Robertson says:
July 31, 2014 at 7:56 pm
North of 43 and south of 44 says:
July 31, 2014 at 7:41 pm
Hey every one look —————————————>
ENSO Meter is headed to La Nina conditions.
___________________
The ENSO meter is decidedly neutral, right now, but hasn’t moved in several days.
_______________________________________________________________
If at a little over +0.5 it was foretelling a nasty huge El Nino then when it has dropped 0.5 and is now slightly over 0.0 it is indeed headed for a La Nina that it hasn’t reached that point yet is immaterial. What is good for the goose and all that ..
We can play loose just like the flat earthers (those who believe in consensus always being correct).

Some User
August 1, 2014 6:09 am

Had the Liberals simply used the phrase “Human-Influenced Climate Change” to push their agenda instead of “Global Cooling” (in the ’70’s) and “Global Warming” (more recently) they just might be taken more seriously.

August 1, 2014 6:20 am

In contrast the 2014’s CET was above the 20 year average.
England’s July daily maximum temperatures were about 2.5 C above its 20 year average, while daily July minimum was 0.8C up, both matching the last year’s July numbers.
Meanwhile for July’s SSN no major change (up to SSN=72.5 from June’s 71)

beng
August 1, 2014 6:22 am

The high minimums are classic examples of UHIE.

beng
August 1, 2014 6:28 am

***
John M. Ware says:
August 1, 2014 at 1:27 am
Here in central Virginia, July averaged 3.5 degrees F below the “long-term” average; a cool month. Highest temp for any day was 95; hot, but nowhere near a record. A couple of days ago the low was 56, two degrees less than the official record of 58.
***
Highest so far here is 89F in late May & July (out in the country – no UHIE). 48F couple nights ago. Certainly a cool summer, but corn looks very good. Wouldn’t be surprised if there is a record corn/soybean harvest here in western MD.

August 1, 2014 6:32 am

Some User says:
August 1, 2014 at 6:09 am
Had the Liberals simply used the phrase “Human-Influenced Climate Change” to push their agenda instead of “Global Cooling” (in the ’70’s) and “Global Warming” (more recently) they just might be taken more seriously.

No.
Had they said that, they would then be required to show what portion of the “Climate Change” was being “Human-Influenced”. Mere conjecture would not be enough.
By using “Climate Change”, “Global Cooling”, “Global Warming”, “Climate Disruption”, etc., they can just weasel out of being pinned down.
By the way, calling them “Liberals” isn’t exactly correct. Look up “Classic Liberal” and you’ll be hard pressed to identify this group with that definition.
“Progressives”, on the other hand, seems more correct.

tm willemse
August 1, 2014 7:01 am

James Strom, john Robertson,
It was midnight on the ocean, not a streetcar was in sight
And the sun was shining brightly, for it rained all day that night
‘Twas a summer night in winter, and the rain was snowing fast
And a barefoot boy with shoes on stood a-sitting in the grass
All together now…

mpainter
August 1, 2014 7:21 am

Ah, Bob Barker comes here and refers us to the Siberian Times for the latest in climate trends and sun-bathing tourist hotspots while simultaneously sneering at Americans for their points view. Now, is not that something?

Ed Martin
August 1, 2014 8:20 am

Ren says August will be warmer.
That’s what a veteran forecaster I follow is saying. We’ll take it, hope it lasts, but fall is approaching.
http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-blogs/Lundberg/summer-will-ret/31374350

ren
August 1, 2014 8:34 am
Alan Robertson
August 1, 2014 8:38 am

North of 43 and south of 44 says:
August 1, 2014 at 6:02 am
If at a little over +0.5 it was foretelling a nasty huge El Nino then when it has dropped 0.5 and is now slightly over 0.0 it is indeed headed for a La Nina that it hasn’t reached that point yet is immaterial. What is good for the goose and all that ..
We can play loose just like the flat earthers (those who believe in consensus always being correct).
_________________
Those are good points, but how is it playing loose to point out that instead of “heading for”, the ENSO meter hasn’t moved for several days? Maybe was heading for La Nina…
The great Bob Tisdale just pointed out a few days ago, that there was an unexpected build- up of warm water in the mid- equatorial Pacific and that there is still a chance of El Nino, I don’t have any idea what’s going to happen, but I listen to what Bob says, because he does. (It looks like the meter may have crept closer to zero, this morning.)
The safe money’s probably on Lee
lee says:
July 31, 2014 at 8:01 pm
North of 43 and south of 44 says:
July 31, 2014 at 7:41 pm
Hey every one look —————————————>
ENSO Meter is headed to La Nina conditions.
————-
More like La Nada

Alan Robertson
August 1, 2014 8:48 am

William McClenney says:
July 31, 2014 at 9:31 pm
GHGs either can or cannot mitigate glacial inception. It is no more complicated or simple than that. Period.
a) If GHGs can get us over the next ~4,000 years of glacial inception risk, then why are we having this discussion at all?
b) If GHGs can’t vault us across the next ~4,000 years of glacial inception risk, then why are we having this discussion at all?
____________________
Fantastic write- up and great info, thanks!
With odds like that, I’m going with Sea Biscuit, in the 3rd.

Ed Martin
August 1, 2014 8:49 am

Hey Ren, do you comment on winter forecasts this early?
http://firsthandweather.com/270/preliminary-2014-15-winter-forecast/
I cannot help but notice that these polar vortex follow the same contours of the ice age ice sheet.
http://www.atmos.washington.edu/~dennis/Hartm.ice.new.gif
That’s my polar vortex stress disorder active…

rho1953
August 1, 2014 9:00 am

We can’t let facts stand in the way of the NWO. Global governance is what is at stake here. How better excuse for global government than global warming? Can the little people stand up to the big power brokers? That is the question. It is only our freedom and way of life that is at stake.

Steve
August 1, 2014 9:00 am

Bob Barker says:
August 1, 2014 at 2:24 am
So let me get this straight… Record cold in the US means NOTHING but record hot in Siberia is a “new sign of changing weather patterns?”
To quote from the article you referenced …
“The average temperature in July is 13.6 but the mercury was touching 32C, a long way from the coldest-ever recorded temperature of minus 61C.
The previous hottest was 31.9C, more than three decades ago.”
WOW a 0.1C difference. “OH MY GOD”

ren
August 1, 2014 9:15 am

Ed Martin
“Sunspot activity is also a factor that I often look into when I’m putting together a winter forecast. This is something that I will likely look into more when I’m putting together my final winter forecast in October, but generally, sunspot activity has been decreasing in recent months. In fact, we just had our first spotless day since 2011 just a few days ago. Winters tend to be colder when there is a lack of sunspot activity, so if this trend continues, that could be another variable that drives temperatures down across the United States this winter.”
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/intraseasonal/temp30anim.gif

Myron Mesecke
August 1, 2014 9:16 am

All of my 52 years in the same central Texas city. This is the coolest summer I can remember. No one in their right mind would expect a high of only 90 here on the first day of August.

ren
August 1, 2014 9:18 am
August 1, 2014 9:21 am

Bob Barker says:
August 1, 2014 at 2:24 am
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Bob says that the world revolves around Norilsk, Siberia.

ren
August 1, 2014 9:25 am

Ed Martin says:
I cannot help but notice that these polar vortex follow the same contours of the ice age ice sheet.
http://www.atmos.washington.edu/~dennis/Hartm.ice.new.gif
http://www.opc.ncep.noaa.gov/Loops/GRTOFS/currents/GRtofs_Curr_Atl_03_Day_flash.shtml

Steve
August 1, 2014 9:26 am

Bob Barker says:
August 1, 2014 at 2:24 am
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The sunbathers picture as taken at Lake Baikal (see caption) over 1000 miles away from Norilsk. Apparently it’s not only the American media that misrepresents the facts.

Ken
August 1, 2014 9:46 am

I was shocked yesterday, High of 74 at 4.p.m. in Plano, TX, Got to Denton at 5 p.m. and the car temp said 70, Bank temp said 69. Unheard of on the last day of July in Texas!!

August 1, 2014 10:07 am

Carbon dioxide, a gaseous plant metabolite, comprises 0.0038 of the atmosphere. Most of the man-made portion of this gas is made in China and Asia, thanks to free trade treaties. But the liberal elite and their progressive, patrician plutocrats want to foster a redistribution of wealth scheme, where they get a slice of every pie. The Wall Street plutocrats and DNC donors will obtain mandated Chartered monopolies to sell carbon ration cards at lucrative commissions. the non-elected Bolshevik bureaucrats will obtain capricious power and more tax revenue extorted from the waning productive elements of society. This pretext of saving the planet is jut a ruse and guise to implement Karl Marx’s dream of controlling the means of production by controlling the means of combustion. And the controllers will be those enlightened Platonic Philosopher kings and infallible high priests in an Anti-Christ religion in which Government is God.

Earl P. Holt III
August 1, 2014 10:12 am

[snip – policy violation. calls for violence .mod]

Brian Gulbranson
August 1, 2014 11:00 am

“Bob Barker says:
August 1, 2014 at 2:24 am
Ah Americans once again thinking that the world revolves around your country. Let’s put this in perspective shall we? Norilsk (a city in northern Siberia) just broke a record for the hottest summer temperature ever recorded. You can read about it here (bonus ladies in bikinis).
http://siberiantimes.com/ecology/casestudy/news/norilsk-breaks-records-for-arctic-heat-in-a-new-sign-of-changing-weather-patterns/
But don’t let reality get in the way of your Fox news fantasy world.”
The article is from July 24, 2013 Bob. Are you that deluded, or just a garden-variety troll?

Johna Till Johnson
August 1, 2014 12:06 pm

Hm. I sit here typing this from St. Pete Beach, Florida…..Where I’m sitting outside wearing jeans and a long-sleeved (albeit lightweight) button-down shirt.
And I’m perfectly comfortable.
That’s assuredly not typical weather for northwestern Florida in August.
But, of course, global warming produces regional cooling. Or something. /sarc.

milodonharlani
August 1, 2014 12:15 pm

Bob Barker says:
August 1, 2014 at 2:24 am
Forecast for next Friday is high of 6 degrees C & low of one degree in Norilsk. Currently 36 degrees F.
Get current, Bob.

ren
August 1, 2014 12:31 pm
Ed Martin
August 1, 2014 12:35 pm

Got it, Ren, thank you! You live in Australia? We don’t hardly know anything about you. You are obviously heavy into weather, your links and analysis is super.
One of the most miserable places on earth where I live, seems like. Can’t make up its mind if it wants to hold glaciers or become a desert. Right now the glacial relics are healthy and thriving and the desert relics look a might peckish.
Plants Profile for Yucca arkansana (Arkansas yucca)
http://plants.usda.gov/core/profile?symbol=yuar2
Ozark Highlands of Missouri: Glacial relicts
http://allisonjvaughn.blogspot.com/2008/02/glacial-relicts.html?m=1
http://theozarkmountains.com/ozark_mountains.htm
Lunch is over, got to get back to work. Finally got all the new siding, doors, insulation, windows, etc… done on my house. But there’s nothing affordable that repels glaciers that I know of.

De Paus
August 1, 2014 1:23 pm

Dear mister Watts,
I assume that all these records are based on raw, non-“adjusted” data. Many of the warm records however should be adjusted for the UHI effect. That means the data should be adjusted downwards, and not upwards as the so-called climate-scientists are doing to keep the CAGW scare (and their own funding) alive. The problem is that we do not exactly know how much the data should be corrected downwards. What we do know is this: the UHI effect is the greatest during the night in big cities. In order to be able to understand at least some of the way the UHI effect influences these record numbers I suggest that we should make a distinction between temperature records that regard the day-time and those that regard the night-time temperature records. In my view it should appear then that the most of the high temperature records are established in big cities in the night time. Also there would be more low temperatures records that regard the day time maximum temperature and less that regard the night time minimum temperature. The UHI effect influences both high and low temperature records, but since night-time temperatures are effected more than day-time temperatures, the high temperature records should appear mostly during the nights and the low temperature records should appear mostly during the daytime. I think it is worth to investigate this further.

ren
August 1, 2014 1:35 pm

Ed Martin
Beautiful mountains and people close to nature. I am only an “urban shaman” and I live in Poland. I love Crazy Horse, as my countryman.

ren
August 1, 2014 2:02 pm

Ed Martin, this Polish glacial lakes. Masuria.
http://mazurycudnatury.org/index.php?id=3&L=0

Catcracking
August 1, 2014 3:29 pm

After reading some of the posts, I immediately looked up the definition of Barking mad and found:
Barking mad
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/barking-mad.html
Insane; intensely mad.
Origin
Barking: There are a couple of stories which link ‘barking mad’ with the east London suburb of Barking. One is that the phrase owes its origin to a medieval asylum for the insane which was part of Barking Abbey.

August 1, 2014 3:48 pm

Can i make a suggestion..
All alarmists sprouting AGW nonsense should be known as Global Cooling Deniers.

milodonharlani
August 1, 2014 4:39 pm

ren says:
August 1, 2014 at 12:31 pm
Thanks. Yamal T is currently below average for this time of year.

Ed Martin
August 1, 2014 7:58 pm

Wow, Ren is in Poland, a peaceful and beautiful place I would love to visit. Lots of forests, parks, national parks, nature reserves, protected areas and biodiversity. You guys have it pretty good, place has made a lot of progress. People there are hard working, tolerant, peaceful, good food and enjoy a lot of freedom.
It also explains why you’re so into weather. Ice sheets shaped almost all the geographical structure. The cold fronts that come from out of Siberia and Scandinavia. Awesome place though!

Ed Martin
August 1, 2014 8:19 pm

I have to ask what an urban shaman is, I’ve never lived in a big city. Like spiritual healing or a medicine man living in a concrete jungle?

ren
August 1, 2014 10:27 pm

Ed Martin
Low solar activity is an increase of ionizing radiation at the Earth’s surface. Remember the black fruit.
My city Lodz is not as big. You can live peacefully.

Ed Martin
August 2, 2014 7:53 am

Yeah, you are talking about cosmic rays getting in. But what black fruit? Black plumbs, figs? I always try to eat black berries and grapes over light colored.
Kiwi fruit contain a rich supply of phytochemicals, substances known to prevent or sometimes cure many chronic diseases. Strong antioxidant with a high concentration of magnesium and other useful minerals plus vitamins C & E. KIWI

ren
August 2, 2014 11:12 am

Ed Martin You are also a shaman. You have an eagle feather.

Ed Martin
August 2, 2014 12:30 pm

Harrier feather, they leave me feathers, harriers absolutely love it here. We must be distant cousins. Family came over from Germany & Poland area back in the early 1900’s.
Cousin Ren, so Sunspot, New Mexico… conversation goes like this…
Richard Altrock, “Leif, we sure set some low temperature records down here at SP, brrr!” LS, “Was there a massive volcano eruption?” RA, “No, just a small one or two in the last year. Sun has been pretty much been sleeping on the job as you know.” LS, “Nonsense, it just can’t be.” Solar physicist visiting from Sunman, Indiana, “Golly, you guys sure do live in a bubble.”

ren
August 3, 2014 12:20 am

Ed Martin probably due to a decrease of ozone increases UVB at the surface. In Poland, significantly increased the number of malignant melanoma.
http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/odgi/odgi_fig3.png

ren
August 3, 2014 12:59 am

Ed Martin here’s live map of ozone anomalies. You can see a clear excess over the Antarctic.
http://exp-studies.tor.ec.gc.ca/ozone/images/graphs/gl_dev/current.gif
http://exp-studies.tor.ec.gc.ca/clf2/e/forecasts.html

observa
August 3, 2014 2:29 am

See you a Siberia and raise you an Oz Bob Barker-
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/travel/holiday-ideas/cold-temperatures-across-southeast-australia-dip-as-low-as-minus-16-brrr/story-fni0bda9-1227011762468
“When Charlotte Pass locals say it’s cold, you know it’s cold. The small community with five ski lifts holds the record for Australia’s lowest temperature (not including Antarctic territories).
That record was set on the evening of June 29, 1994, when the mercury plummeted to minus 23 degrees. Yes, minus 23. Interestingly, that’s a colder official temperature than has ever been recorded in New Zealand, although that’s only because New Zealand has fewer weather stations than Australia.”
And that’s the problem Bob. There aren’t enough thermometers and what there are haven’t been around for any worthwhile time series and that’s before the usual suspects get to fiddle with them or disappear them. And don’t let anyone kid you Noo Zulland is a warmer country than Oz.

ren
August 3, 2014 4:32 am

Ed Martin I would recommend, especially during hot weather.
GrepoSept contains pure concentrate of bioflavonoids and vitamin C.
Is extracted from the seeds, pulp and membranes of grapefruit.

cassidy421
August 3, 2014 4:33 pm

AGW is an excuse for depopulation, unfortunately, The depopulation agenda preceded the AGW theory. David Rockefeller referred to the NWO depopulation agenda in 1969, a year after The Club of Rome was founded at his estate in Bellagio, Italy to create an environmental scenario to rationalize the Committee of 300’s depopulation agenda. (they really use these terms; I’ve heard Edmund de Rothschild refer to the Group of 7 and the Group of 20, and there are probably nearly as many secret organizations with >90% membership redundancy as the total number of their members).
The AGW-scam is an incredible opportunity for those of us with basic knowledge of climate science to expand our knowledge
http://real-agenda.com/2014/02/11/what-is-the-state-of-the-global-depopulation-program/
http://www.naturalnews.com/037498_chemtrails_depopulation_agenda.html
http://truth11.com/2009/12/31/illuminati-vowed-in-1969-travel-will-be-more-difficult/
http://www.theeventchronicle.com/study/cabal-insider-revealed-entire-nwo-plan-1969/

Ed Martin
August 3, 2014 7:22 pm

Got it, Ren, thank you very much. I’ll check out your posts as soon as possible. Been very, very busy working, pretty wore out. All appears like very plausible at a glance. Thanks again.
May take a little while but will catch up with you. 🙂

Ed Martin
August 4, 2014 6:44 am