Taking Keating's $30,000 skeptic challenge seriously, part 1

Contradictory contest criteria have been rectified via Keating “clarification” clarification

Guest post by Alec Rawls

At first glance retired physics teacher Christopher Keating’s challenge appears to be an obvious bait and switch. It opens as an invitation to “global warming skeptics” who charge that “the science doesn’t support claims of man-made climate change.” The central “claim of man-made climate change” is the IPCC’s assertion in AR5 that: “It is extremely likely that human influence has been the dominant cause of the observed warming since the mid-20th century” (AR5 WGI SPM p. 17, upped from “very likely” in AR4 and “likely” in the Third Area Report). So wait a minute. All we have to do is demonstrate that this assertion of great certainty that human activity caused most late 20th century warming is clearly unsupported by the available reason and evidence and Keating will give us $30,000? That is easily done. But then the first stated rule of his contest asserts a very different criterion:

1. I will award $30,000 of my own money to anyone that can prove, via the scientific method, that man-made global climate change is not occurring.

Ridiculous. There is hardly a skeptic alive who doesn’t think that human activity is causing some climate change, and in particular, some amount of warming. The question is whether one accepts the IPCC’s claim of extreme certainty that the human release of greenhouse gases is responsible for most late 20th century warming, and is on course to cause a dangerous amount of warming over the next century. Skeptics see this as unlikely, or as unsupported by the evidence, but it all comes down to the size of the human warming effect.

So Keating is putting forward two completely different criteria for gauging human influence on climate, one that pretty much all skeptics reject and one that pretty much all skeptics accept, and he is treating them as interchangeable. This raises an obvious suspicion.

When nobody can prove NO human-caused warming, will Keating claim vindication for the IPCC’s claim that MOST warming was human caused?

It would be a very crude switch, conflating two very different scientific positions, but we have been down this road several times already. Remember the bogus “consensus” study by Doran and Zimmerman that failed to distinguish skeptic from consensoid views, thereby lumping skeptics into their proclaimed “consensus”? According to their press release:

Two questions were key: have mean global temperatures risen compared to pre-1800s levels, and has human activity been a significant factor in changing mean global temperatures.

About 90 percent of the scientists agreed with the first question and 82 percent the second.

Wait, one in ten scientists don’t think global temperatures have risen since 1800? That’s actually a pretty amazing lack of consensus, but on the role of human activity, there are very few on the skeptic side who would say that human effects are insignificant, thus their real finding is that 82 percent of scientists can be categorized as either skeptics or consensoids. They hadn’t distinguished the actual competing viewpoints at all, but they pretended they had, and declared the science settled:

…the debate on the authenticity of global warming and the role played by human activity is largely nonexistent among those who understand the nuances and scientific basis of long-term climate processes.

Ditto for Cook et al. 2013. As documented by Legates, Soon, Briggs and Monckton, the Cook study’s own raters found that only 0.5% of the climate science abstracts they examined supported the IPCC “consensus” position that most recent warming was caused by human activity. To claim a 97% consensus they added this 0.5% figure together with the numbers of abstracts that support weaker claims of some human influence, positions that encompass virtually all skeptics. From Christopher Monckton:

In defiance of the evidence recorded in their own data file, they had then explicitly stated, both in their article and in a subsequent article, that 97.1% had endorsed the IPCC’s proposition.

Again and again the alarmists try to pull off this trick, fabricating a phony “consensus” on the IPCC position by falsely classifying those who reject the IPCC’s position as supportive of it, and the yawning slip between Keating’s cup and his lip seems to be an obvious set-up for more of the same, which must have put off many of the skeptics who came across Keating’s challenge. It certainly put me off.

I belatedly looked further only because these bait and switches have been turning into big propaganda battles and I figured it might be worth getting ahead of this one. That’s when I came across Keating’s clarification page, where he promises to fork over the money to anyone who can prove that the available scientific reason and evidence do not support the IPCC’s claim of extreme certainty that most recent warming  human caused.

Okay, that changes things. If these are the terms then Keating deserves to be taken seriously, not in any expectation that he would ever pay up, but because he might be an honest man who has simply never been properly exposed to the skeptic side. Of course that would have been self-selected but he is now self-forcing himself to engage with skeptic views and if he really is an honest man the result could be interesting.

Keating’s “clarification” page

Numerous commenters complained to Keating that there was no way to win his challenge because he was demanding proof of a negative: that human activity has no effect on climate (a negative that no skeptic ever claimed). This is what spawned his clarification page, where he lists “two different ways” that skeptics can win, with “Option #1” being:

The basic tenets of AGW are these two IPCC conclusions:

It is extremely likely (95-100%) that human influence has been the dominant cause of the observed warming since the mid-20th century.

Climate sensitivity is likely in the range 1.5°C to 4.5°C and extremely unlikely (95-100%) less than 1°C.

So if someone was able to scientifically disprove these two extremely likely / unlikely statements, then that should suffice.

To “scientifically disprove” the IPCC claims of extreme certainty is to prove that they are not scientifically justified. It doesn’t mean proving that human activity did not cause most post 50’s warming. It just means proving that the available reason and evidence does not justify any high degree of certainty about the latest warming being mostly human-caused. “Proof” is generally not easy to come by in science but this one is easy, on multiple grounds.

So now we have a challenge worth answering, an opportunity to turn Keating’s publicity ploy into a positive episode for skeptic understanding. His clarification also means that his challenge needs to be taken seriously as a threat. Right on his clarification page, before anyone had seen it, Keating was already crowing how nobody could show that the IPCC’s radical attribution claims are rejected by science:

So, there you go. I set the challenge up to favor the deniers and have now even produced two separate ways they can win.

And, yet, THE DENIERS STILL CAN’T PRODUCE.

Oh yes we can. Keating is one of those “believers” who flings the “denier” label like plosive spittle, and having changed his contest rules to be able to more legitimately claim to that he is vindicating the IPCC’s most unscientific excesses he needs to be shadowed henceforth by an unrebuttable insistence that HE OWES US MONEY. Then he can raise the subject as much as he wants.

Keating’s contradictory statements about skeptic views prove that he’s never thought this through

How else could a physicist make the following contradictory statements about skeptic views, issued almost in sequence on his “clarification” page? First he is stunned by all the people trying to let him know that skeptics generally do agree that human release of greenhouse gases does cause warming:

Some have even gone so far as to claim that no one has ever denied that man made global warming is not real. I swear, I didn’t make that last statement up. This is such a brazen lie that I wonder if the people saying this have lost touch with reality. Seriously, I wonder if they have lost touch with the real world. One question to those people, if deniers have never said man made global warming is not real, then just what have you guys been saying all this time? There is a long record of your statements about how global warming is a fraud, etc. Once again, if you don’t like being held accountable for what you say, stop saying it.

No distinction between people causing some warming and people causing most warming, even though he is responding to people who are pressing him on this very point. It’s like the idea is so new to him that he can’t get his head around it. Then at the end of his “option 1” he includes this little admission, perhaps in response to his recent forced engagement with actual skeptic views:

That said, the climate debate has shifted a bit over the past decades I’ve following it into at least “skeptics” grudgingly accepting (1) that the planet is actually warming [that should be “was actually warming”] and (2) the physics behind sensitivity excluding feedbacks being 1.1°C.

On the CO2 forcing effect it isn’t the debate that has shifted, only Keating’s awareness of it, and he must have only learned very recently (not “over the decades”) about the broad agreement among skeptics and consensoids alike that a doubling of CO2 should cause a temperature forcing of about 1°C. How else could he have been flabbergasted just a few paragraphs above by the idea of skeptics who do not deny that human activity causes warming?

So we’re talking about a babe-in-arms here. This senior citizen baby is unaware that the actual debate is over the size of the feedback effect and whether it is positive or negative. He has certainly never thought through the implications of agreement on CO2 forcing. So what to do with our senior baby?

I’m going to give him two answers. A little later I will post a “taking Keating seriously part 2” that recounts a few of the prima facie ways that the IPCC’s radical attribution claims are highly unscientific, as pointed out by numerous people in recent years. Then early next week I will post part 3, detailing a train of specific unscientific and anti-scientific steps in the IPCC analysis that render it not just scientifically invalid but properly classify it as a hoax and a fraud.

I documented two years ago how the First Order Draft of AR5 was marred by systematic “omitted variable fraud.” That critique is past due for an update and Keating’s challenge is a good second bird to kill with the same stone.

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Bill W
July 26, 2014 1:13 pm

One day Tokusan told his student Ganto, ‘I have two monks who have been here for many years. Go and examine them.’ Ganto picked up an ax and went to the hut where the two monks were meditating. He raised the ax, saying, ‘If you say a word I will cut off your heads; and if you do not say a word, I will also cut off your heads.’ Both monks continued their meditation as if he had not spoken. Ganto dropped the ax and said, ‘You are true Zen students.’

July 26, 2014 1:20 pm

If we throw in finding evidence that the Yeti doesn’t exist do we get an extra $20,000?

Dr Burns
July 26, 2014 3:45 pm

“There is hardly a skeptic alive who doesn’t think that human activity is causing some climate change, and in particular, some amount of warming.”
How do you explain the lack of warming for the past 2 decades?

Editor
July 26, 2014 5:12 pm

Alec Rawls – An interesting challenge. I suggest that you spell out very clearly in your answer all the exact rules of the challenge in your own language, so that there can be no misunderstanding about what it is that you are addressing. The risk of using Keating’s rules is they can be misinterpreted, and hence your answer could be rejected based on something that you were not in fact addressing.

Editor
July 26, 2014 5:22 pm

Dr Burns. That’s a very strange comment of yous (3:45pm). Of course there can be some human influence and still no warming. Natural factors such as orbital variations, solar activity, ocean oscillations, atmospheric oscillations, etc, etc, are the main drivers of climate, and we don’t have any idea how some of them work. Yes, there’s some human influence, but no, it doesn’t rule the climate.

July 26, 2014 7:29 pm

The point whether implied or specifically asked is that co2 is the main driver on this planet. The answer is NO. After close to 18 years the warming stopped while co2 continued to increase. What is he providing as proof that AGW exist? Good luck with those papers and studies. Maybe he can keep warm burning them during the next downturn in temperatures. (if he hasn’t bought beach front property where it is warm all the time, Like Mr. Gore. Is his property still above sea level? Of course it is)
This entire debate will go down as one of the biggest boondoggle of all time. AGW is a waste of time, talent and money.

rogerthesurf
July 26, 2014 9:03 pm

pokerguy
There is such a challenge
See http://climateguy.blogspot.se/2010/11/10k-climate-challenge.html
Rather more commendable than Dr Keating’s (although Keating never replied to my request to see his PhD thesis), as there is an independany arbitrator appointed to judge and handle the cash.
Cheers
Roger
http://www.thedemiseofchristchurch.com

Greg
July 27, 2014 12:05 am

“One might wonder – Does Keating even have the necessary skills to adequately assess an entry to his challenge? There is absolutely no evidence that he does.”
He does not need “adequately assess” , all he needs to do is refute for some reason that pleases him and keep his money.
Rule no.5 says he’s judge and jury but he will release “comments”. That means NOTHING. So he does not even need to a proper rebutal of any credible claimant. He just decides what HE wants to accept and whether he wants to lose 30 grand. YEAH, RIGHT.
He’s also now imposed a deadline. Since when did science work to arbitrary deadlines?
This whole exercise is a political game and Alex was a fool to lend it a shread of credibility with “Taking Keating’s $30,000 skeptic challenge seriously”.

Trick
July 27, 2014 6:37 am

Arno 11:21am: “Carbon dioxide does not cause any warming whatsoever as I will demonstrate by the scientific method….AGW has been nullified.”
No. What you write is true only because CO2 uses up no fuel thus added CO2 alone cannot cause increased temperature (warming) in total planet atm. Added CO2 ppm and any IR active gas ppm in part enables the sun using up a fuel to cause planetary global increase in near surface Tmean above satellite measured Tmean due optical depth physics of an atmosphere.
Arno has simply made up an incorrect straw man and easily stabbed it to death i.e. nullified it. IR active gas is only one factor in global surface Tmean; there are many other factors each acting independently.
“If your theory predicts warming for 17 years and nothing happens, you as a scientist know that it is worthless and belongs in the waste basket of history.”
Agreed. However the basic text book theory of planet wide atm. optical depth does not predict this; only the GCMs do & in ensemble are shown incorrect by the past 17+ years observed surface Tmean. The obvious basic reason is current GCMs do not independently model from text book 1st principles each & every other global Tmean component factor.
The top post clip below is more correct in explaining results of scientific method and Arno’s straw man clipped herein above is incorrect explanation:
“…means proving that the available reason and evidence does not justify any high degree of certainty about the latest warming being mostly human-caused…the actual debate is over the size of the feedback effect and whether it is positive or negative”

Randy
July 27, 2014 9:23 am

Soooo… the IPCC lists low levels of consensus and understanding for ALL variables EXCEPT co2s influence. They are 95% sure about that one. Meanwhile they ignore empirical data on feedbacks that were supposed to cause 2/3 of the warming, except they arent. With co2 as a major factor we cannot model the present or even most of the last 100 years, nope just the few decades this glorious theory became prominent, until of course the last 1-1.5 decades. Well over a dozen major papers try to explain this lack of warming (many of them do this by altering some other variable and there is a wide range of implications from the various attempts) while still implying co2s effect is strong, because like the IPCC says were totally sure its correct, the world just isnt actually warming, nor is the ocean, and we cant explain the bulk of the last 100 years with co2 as a major factor so CLEARLY there is some other factor that we cant find that keeps co2 as a major factor. right? because the IPCC is 95% sure!! LOL. This isnt science, it is a social agenda that wears the mask of science.
wait I hear someone at the door, their uniforms say ministry of co-2ruth… Ill be right back.
I believe!!! clearly only people who are anti science could question the power of the one true climate driver, the rest are just climate heretics. have you heard the good news brothers and sisters!!! We might all be climate sinners, but co2 loves and forgives you!! Ignore the heretics, they will bow before the one true climate driver in the end for their final judgement.

July 27, 2014 11:28 pm

Richard
I say to “prove” in layman’s term whose meaning in science is to demonstrate that a theory or hypothesis is consistent with all observations and/or established scientific laws, Strictly speaking proofs are meaningful only in mathematics, not in science, because scientific theories must be falsifiable. Hence you cannot really prove they are true. However there is no need to disprove or falsify a theory that has not been “proven” to begin with.

E Morgan Schuster
July 28, 2014 12:01 am

What we are really facing here is a form of coercion by fundamentalist climate modelers.
They’ll continue saying whatever it takes to keep the cash flowing and their jobs (researching a case they claim is closed) until they retire and collect their pensions.
The only way to get them to change would be to offer them more money than they are getting from us (through taxation or inflation) already.
After all, 100% of all fundamentalist climate modelers will create whatever output you want….for the right price.
The American has no friend in this fight – no representation in our government – no power that operates in our best interests.

richardscourtney
July 28, 2014 1:18 am

Dr. Strangelove:
Your post at July 27, 2014 at 11:28 pm says in total I think to me

Richard
I say to “prove” in layman’s term whose meaning in science is to demonstrate that a theory or hypothesis is consistent with all observations and/or established scientific laws, Strictly speaking proofs are meaningful only in mathematics, not in science, because scientific theories must be falsifiable. Hence you cannot really prove they are true. However there is no need to disprove or falsify a theory that has not been “proven” to begin with.

I absolutely, strongly and vociferously agree! Over the years I have repeatedly pointed out on WUWT that ‘proof’ has no meaning in science, pseudoscientists try to prove their ideas but scientists try to falsify ideas.
Indeed, in this thread I wrote saying to you at July 26, 2014 at 4:24 am

Scientists do not try to “prove” anything because they cannot.
Scientists seek the closest possible approximation to truth by attempting to find evidence which falsifies existing understanding.
Pseudoscientists attempt to “prove” their ideas.
Pseudoscientists try to prove their ideas by attempting to find evidence which supports their understanding.
Most of ‘climate science’ is pseudoscience.

However, Keatings “challenge” is NOT science. It is a political ploy. And failure to respond to it would offer him the political ‘win’ on a plate.
It is important to note that Keating is likely to claim a ‘win’ whatever happens because he is the sole arbiter of responses to his “challenge”. But his refuting reasoned replies can be ridiculed, while no replies would offer him – and other warmunists – the opportunity to proclaim that climate realists ‘cannot dispute the science’.
And there are several ways to fulfill his challenge which he says is

1. I will award $30,000 of my own money to anyone that
can prove, via the scientific method, that man-made global climate change is
not occurring;

There are several ways to do that, and the obvious one is to apply the Null Hypothesis. That is the method I have adopted to answer his challenge. My submission in answer to the challenge and Keating’s acceptance of it can be read here and I anticipate Keating providing a facile excuse to reject it.
Richard

July 28, 2014 2:06 am

In rejecting the “disproofs” Keating will claim to have proven his theory. He reversed the process that’s why it contradicts the scientific method. Even if his rejections are valid, that does not prove his theory. The ploy will succeed. The accused failed to disprove the theory that he is guilty. Therefore he is guilty. IMO the best response to Keating is laugh at his challenge because it is pseudoscience.

Invisible Pink Licorn
July 28, 2014 9:33 am

Keating, challenge accepted.
I claim that GW is occuring because such is the mighty and holy will of Invisible Pink Licorn (IPL). IPL can, of course, decide to stop, resume, reverse or accelerate GW, at will (or by the magic vertues of His holy manure and its gas), and whatever will be, will be.
I challenge anyone to disprove this fact by the vary same rule that Keating decided to apply to his challenge, except for the deadline, which shall be 2014-07-30 at 00h00 GMT.
Obvioulsy no one will be able to scientifically challenge this Holy truth, so by 014-07-30 at 00h01 GMT it will be a well established fact (“consensus” )
According to the law of excluded middle, the deeds of IPL are not the deeds of Man, which scientifically proves that AGW doesn’t exist.
QOD
(PS : it may be, or not, that IPL or “Invisible Pink Licorn” are ill translated as “CO2” or “Homo sapiens” in some foreign langage. This is utter blasphem )

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