Taking Keating's $30,000 skeptic challenge seriously, part 1

Contradictory contest criteria have been rectified via Keating “clarification” clarification

Guest post by Alec Rawls

At first glance retired physics teacher Christopher Keating’s challenge appears to be an obvious bait and switch. It opens as an invitation to “global warming skeptics” who charge that “the science doesn’t support claims of man-made climate change.” The central “claim of man-made climate change” is the IPCC’s assertion in AR5 that: “It is extremely likely that human influence has been the dominant cause of the observed warming since the mid-20th century” (AR5 WGI SPM p. 17, upped from “very likely” in AR4 and “likely” in the Third Area Report). So wait a minute. All we have to do is demonstrate that this assertion of great certainty that human activity caused most late 20th century warming is clearly unsupported by the available reason and evidence and Keating will give us $30,000? That is easily done. But then the first stated rule of his contest asserts a very different criterion:

1. I will award $30,000 of my own money to anyone that can prove, via the scientific method, that man-made global climate change is not occurring.

Ridiculous. There is hardly a skeptic alive who doesn’t think that human activity is causing some climate change, and in particular, some amount of warming. The question is whether one accepts the IPCC’s claim of extreme certainty that the human release of greenhouse gases is responsible for most late 20th century warming, and is on course to cause a dangerous amount of warming over the next century. Skeptics see this as unlikely, or as unsupported by the evidence, but it all comes down to the size of the human warming effect.

So Keating is putting forward two completely different criteria for gauging human influence on climate, one that pretty much all skeptics reject and one that pretty much all skeptics accept, and he is treating them as interchangeable. This raises an obvious suspicion.

When nobody can prove NO human-caused warming, will Keating claim vindication for the IPCC’s claim that MOST warming was human caused?

It would be a very crude switch, conflating two very different scientific positions, but we have been down this road several times already. Remember the bogus “consensus” study by Doran and Zimmerman that failed to distinguish skeptic from consensoid views, thereby lumping skeptics into their proclaimed “consensus”? According to their press release:

Two questions were key: have mean global temperatures risen compared to pre-1800s levels, and has human activity been a significant factor in changing mean global temperatures.

About 90 percent of the scientists agreed with the first question and 82 percent the second.

Wait, one in ten scientists don’t think global temperatures have risen since 1800? That’s actually a pretty amazing lack of consensus, but on the role of human activity, there are very few on the skeptic side who would say that human effects are insignificant, thus their real finding is that 82 percent of scientists can be categorized as either skeptics or consensoids. They hadn’t distinguished the actual competing viewpoints at all, but they pretended they had, and declared the science settled:

…the debate on the authenticity of global warming and the role played by human activity is largely nonexistent among those who understand the nuances and scientific basis of long-term climate processes.

Ditto for Cook et al. 2013. As documented by Legates, Soon, Briggs and Monckton, the Cook study’s own raters found that only 0.5% of the climate science abstracts they examined supported the IPCC “consensus” position that most recent warming was caused by human activity. To claim a 97% consensus they added this 0.5% figure together with the numbers of abstracts that support weaker claims of some human influence, positions that encompass virtually all skeptics. From Christopher Monckton:

In defiance of the evidence recorded in their own data file, they had then explicitly stated, both in their article and in a subsequent article, that 97.1% had endorsed the IPCC’s proposition.

Again and again the alarmists try to pull off this trick, fabricating a phony “consensus” on the IPCC position by falsely classifying those who reject the IPCC’s position as supportive of it, and the yawning slip between Keating’s cup and his lip seems to be an obvious set-up for more of the same, which must have put off many of the skeptics who came across Keating’s challenge. It certainly put me off.

I belatedly looked further only because these bait and switches have been turning into big propaganda battles and I figured it might be worth getting ahead of this one. That’s when I came across Keating’s clarification page, where he promises to fork over the money to anyone who can prove that the available scientific reason and evidence do not support the IPCC’s claim of extreme certainty that most recent warming  human caused.

Okay, that changes things. If these are the terms then Keating deserves to be taken seriously, not in any expectation that he would ever pay up, but because he might be an honest man who has simply never been properly exposed to the skeptic side. Of course that would have been self-selected but he is now self-forcing himself to engage with skeptic views and if he really is an honest man the result could be interesting.

Keating’s “clarification” page

Numerous commenters complained to Keating that there was no way to win his challenge because he was demanding proof of a negative: that human activity has no effect on climate (a negative that no skeptic ever claimed). This is what spawned his clarification page, where he lists “two different ways” that skeptics can win, with “Option #1” being:

The basic tenets of AGW are these two IPCC conclusions:

It is extremely likely (95-100%) that human influence has been the dominant cause of the observed warming since the mid-20th century.

Climate sensitivity is likely in the range 1.5°C to 4.5°C and extremely unlikely (95-100%) less than 1°C.

So if someone was able to scientifically disprove these two extremely likely / unlikely statements, then that should suffice.

To “scientifically disprove” the IPCC claims of extreme certainty is to prove that they are not scientifically justified. It doesn’t mean proving that human activity did not cause most post 50’s warming. It just means proving that the available reason and evidence does not justify any high degree of certainty about the latest warming being mostly human-caused. “Proof” is generally not easy to come by in science but this one is easy, on multiple grounds.

So now we have a challenge worth answering, an opportunity to turn Keating’s publicity ploy into a positive episode for skeptic understanding. His clarification also means that his challenge needs to be taken seriously as a threat. Right on his clarification page, before anyone had seen it, Keating was already crowing how nobody could show that the IPCC’s radical attribution claims are rejected by science:

So, there you go. I set the challenge up to favor the deniers and have now even produced two separate ways they can win.

And, yet, THE DENIERS STILL CAN’T PRODUCE.

Oh yes we can. Keating is one of those “believers” who flings the “denier” label like plosive spittle, and having changed his contest rules to be able to more legitimately claim to that he is vindicating the IPCC’s most unscientific excesses he needs to be shadowed henceforth by an unrebuttable insistence that HE OWES US MONEY. Then he can raise the subject as much as he wants.

Keating’s contradictory statements about skeptic views prove that he’s never thought this through

How else could a physicist make the following contradictory statements about skeptic views, issued almost in sequence on his “clarification” page? First he is stunned by all the people trying to let him know that skeptics generally do agree that human release of greenhouse gases does cause warming:

Some have even gone so far as to claim that no one has ever denied that man made global warming is not real. I swear, I didn’t make that last statement up. This is such a brazen lie that I wonder if the people saying this have lost touch with reality. Seriously, I wonder if they have lost touch with the real world. One question to those people, if deniers have never said man made global warming is not real, then just what have you guys been saying all this time? There is a long record of your statements about how global warming is a fraud, etc. Once again, if you don’t like being held accountable for what you say, stop saying it.

No distinction between people causing some warming and people causing most warming, even though he is responding to people who are pressing him on this very point. It’s like the idea is so new to him that he can’t get his head around it. Then at the end of his “option 1” he includes this little admission, perhaps in response to his recent forced engagement with actual skeptic views:

That said, the climate debate has shifted a bit over the past decades I’ve following it into at least “skeptics” grudgingly accepting (1) that the planet is actually warming [that should be “was actually warming”] and (2) the physics behind sensitivity excluding feedbacks being 1.1°C.

On the CO2 forcing effect it isn’t the debate that has shifted, only Keating’s awareness of it, and he must have only learned very recently (not “over the decades”) about the broad agreement among skeptics and consensoids alike that a doubling of CO2 should cause a temperature forcing of about 1°C. How else could he have been flabbergasted just a few paragraphs above by the idea of skeptics who do not deny that human activity causes warming?

So we’re talking about a babe-in-arms here. This senior citizen baby is unaware that the actual debate is over the size of the feedback effect and whether it is positive or negative. He has certainly never thought through the implications of agreement on CO2 forcing. So what to do with our senior baby?

I’m going to give him two answers. A little later I will post a “taking Keating seriously part 2” that recounts a few of the prima facie ways that the IPCC’s radical attribution claims are highly unscientific, as pointed out by numerous people in recent years. Then early next week I will post part 3, detailing a train of specific unscientific and anti-scientific steps in the IPCC analysis that render it not just scientifically invalid but properly classify it as a hoax and a fraud.

I documented two years ago how the First Order Draft of AR5 was marred by systematic “omitted variable fraud.” That critique is past due for an update and Keating’s challenge is a good second bird to kill with the same stone.

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eugene watson
July 25, 2014 2:49 pm

Applying the scientific method to the AGW hypothesis clearly determines it to be false.
1. AGW contends that rising levels of atmospheric CO2 results in rising planetary temperature.
2. The average planetary temperature has remained constant for the past 18 years.
3. The level of atmospheric CO2 has continued it’s monotonic increase over the past 18 years.
4. The scientific method requires that validating the hypothetical requires that it always be true.
5. Since the AGW hypothesis isn’t always true, it is therefore false.

James Schrumpf
July 25, 2014 2:53 pm

Trying to prove a negative is not science.

Gregory
July 25, 2014 2:53 pm

It’s still a moot point as AGW was never proven by the scientific method, but approved by concensus.

July 25, 2014 2:54 pm

Technically, no one can prove or disprove CO2 caused global warming. Keating is just using this as a publicity stunt and laces every other sentence with some version of “deniers” deny science. He deleted some my comments regards Antarctica and then banned me from his site.

July 25, 2014 3:04 pm

“1. I will award $30,000 of my own money to anyone that can prove, via the scientific method, that man-made global climate change is not occurring.”
“When nobody can prove NO human-caused warming, will Keating claim vindication for the IPCC’s claim that MOST warming was human caused?”
I am not a scientist, so anyone out there is welcome to correct me if I am mistaken here. It is my understanding though that science cannot prove a negative. Correct? If so, isn’t that what Keating is requiring of science here….that a negative be proven? Isn’t he demanding the impossible of science?

July 25, 2014 3:06 pm

Total nonsense.
YOU DO NOT PROVE ANYTHING by the scientific method. You simply fail to disprove your hypothesis. The pesky “p” is never zero.
Building a nuclear reactor and making it work is not science. It is engineering.
Building a machine to throw a ball into the air doesn’t prove the existence of gravity.
This alarmists are really, really, showing their ignorance. And, they are being insincere, as usual. They want the burden of proof to be on the skeptic. It never is, with the scientific method. The burden of proof lies with the proponent.
How about the bet as follows. If this fellow can’t prove catastrophic man made global warming exists, he gives 30,000 to the charity of my choice.

jimmi_the_dalek
July 25, 2014 3:06 pm

a negative that no skeptic ever claimed
(referring to the non-existence of skeptics who say there is no human caused warming)
Oh yes they have. There are those who say the Greenhouse Effect does not exist e.g. the “Slayers”, those who say human activity has contributed nothing to the rise in CO2, those who say it is all the Sun, those who say it is due to natural cycles all mysteriously adding in the same direction, or who say it is the movements of the planets, or that the temperature data has all been faked, and probably more. Some or most of these will turn up on this thread.
On the other hand, if you are going to argue that the Greenhouse effect is real, and that the rise in CO2 is (mostly) human caused, but that the net results is less than claimed, then this is a scientifically valid argument, but to prove it you would have to find firm evidence of the relative proportions of human and natural effects – which is of course what a lot of climate science is trying to do.

Bill Marsh
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July 25, 2014 3:07 pm

“1. I will award $30,000 of my own money to anyone that can prove, via the scientific method, that man-made global climate change is not occurring.”
So he’s trying the age old trick of asking someone to ‘prove a negative’? Has he offered proof, via the scientific method, that man-made climate change IS occurring? The key ‘catch’ is ‘scientific method’. If I understand that correctly it requires proof by experiment. I would submit that this is impossible when dealing with the planetary atmosphere and I would further submit that he knows it.
The steps of the scientific method are to:
Ask a Question
Do Background Research
Construct a Hypothesis
Test Your Hypothesis by Doing an Experiment
Analyze Your Data and Draw a Conclusion
Communicate Your Results
It is important for your experiment to be a fair test. A “fair test” occurs when you change only one factor (variable) and keep all other conditions the same.
Exactly how does the science teacher propose that we ‘experiment’ with earths atmosphere?

pokerguy
July 25, 2014 3:07 pm

“consensoids”
I like it!

eyesonu
July 25, 2014 3:09 pm

Alec Rawls
This is going to be interesting. I will be watching for parts 2 & 3. I hope you win the cash prize.

Clay Marley
July 25, 2014 3:11 pm

Remember Keating’s original challenge, point 5:
“5. I am the final judge of all entries but will provide my comments on why any entry fails to prove the point.”
No matter what evidence is provided, Keating will reject it based on his own criteria.
The challenge is still bogus.

pokerguy
July 25, 2014 3:11 pm

How about turning it around on them, and offer 30K to anyone who can prove, via the scientific method, that man-made global climate change will not be a net positive for the world.

Tilo
July 25, 2014 3:17 pm

LOL. If there is a single human being alive and breathing on the face of the earth, then there is some man made climate change.
Keating’s bet is as phony as his alarmism.

urederra
July 25, 2014 3:18 pm

Joel Hammer says:
July 25, 2014 at 3:06 pm
Total nonsense.
YOU DO NOT PROVE ANYTHING by the scientific method. You simply fail to disprove your hypothesis. The pesky “p” is never zero.
Building a nuclear reactor and making it work is not science. It is engineering.
Building a machine to throw a ball into the air doesn’t prove the existence of gravity.

Exactly.
Besides, CO2 levels are rising, temperatures are not. CAGW R.I.P.

Mike McMillan
July 25, 2014 3:18 pm

The challenge will be to get him to cough up the money.

Jared
July 25, 2014 3:19 pm

In the 21st Century there has been no warming and CO2 has sky rocketed. Positive feedback beliefs were that of the Neanderthal 20th Century man, in the 21st Century we base things on observational data and CO2 has proven to be a bit player in temperature.

P@ Dolan
July 25, 2014 3:22 pm

Bravo, Alec Rawls!
Gregory, I don’t necessarily agree that it’s moot. This is a method of engaging some of the AGW acolytes who seem to simply believe. It’s an article of faith, not science—even very highly educated, brilliant people like Keating have bought into it. I won’t go into the psychobabble about the dogma/faith etc. sort of syndrome many of these folks appear to exhibit. But here’s one who makes a statement which proves that he only just learned what the community of free-thinkers have been saying all along: yes, there’s warming, but to claim it’s a “crisis” that requires all the brouhaha that people like Mann and Hansen are demanding is nonsense.
Anyone who has read anything about the subject will agree that yes, the climate has warmed since 1850. I don’t know anyone who claims otherwise. But here we have a believer in the crisis and the need for dramatic, destructive measures, who has only just learned what free thinking people have been saying?
Is that not a breakthrough? Most of them ONLY read literature and opinions that are re-inforcing of their dogma—isn’t that true of nearly all religions? This—this is heresy in the church of global warming, almost. He’s flirting with apostasy.
And even if Keating remains unconvinced, it’s very likely that the commotion will attract the attention of some who aren’t died-in-the-wool believers in AGW, but haven’t read any other information—like children in high school, fed a diet of nonsense & lies like “An Inconvenient Truth”, and have never (apparently like Keating) been exposed to any other ideas at all.
The argument won’t be won overnight. There isn’t likely to be any single experiment or proof that answers all their arguments, and forces the UN et al to announce they were wrong.
Think of the lawsuits over THAT one! How much money have people made selling the scary story? How many people have gotten grants knowing that they’re hyping a non-issue? Think of Solyndra, et al, who made millions off taxpayer dollars due to what appear to be political favors?
The important thing here isn’t being right about is there is there not— We’re more concerned about the abuses being made in the name of AGW that are literally killing people and making them miserable in poor nations. It will take public influence to stop politicians from pursuing policies which are destructive and that will mean that instead of trusting the UN (and what school kid is taught to be skeptical about the UN or it’s motives?), they’ll have to first learn that the AGW Abusers aren’t the only source of information, and that they DON’T have all the answers. But that process will necessarily be gradual.
I humbly submit this is a very good place to start, and ironically fitting that one of theirs provided the opportunity.

July 25, 2014 3:25 pm

Keating: “One question to those people, if deniers have never said man made global warming is not real, then just what have you guys been saying all this time? There is a long record of your statements about how global warming is a fraud, etc.”
I suspect one problem Keating has it that he has allowed Alarmist/Warmists to define the skeptical position.
A very naïve beginner level mistake.

SandyInLimousin
July 25, 2014 3:27 pm

You may regard this as semantics. If the temperature of the global is lower than the peak of this inter-glacial, which was lower than the peaks of previous how can
1. The climate said to be changing as it is within previously experienced levels?
2. If it is varying between previously experienced levels and CO2 is as high as it ever been for the last 800K years then how can it be connected to temperature.
3. Rates of change are within previously experienced levels.
4. Other things like precipitation, cloud, hurricanes, sea level etc. are also within previously experienced levels and rates of change so what exactly is changing.
This really puzzles me greatly, surely if something is changing then it must be doing something measurably different from previously experienced?
Could someone explain it to me in simple terms, I’m not stupid but simple is the only way I’m going to understand this.

July 25, 2014 3:30 pm

Good article. I generally agree 100% with Alec Rawls. But I don’t think he will ever see a penny from this so-called ‘challenge’.

July 25, 2014 3:31 pm

Regarding the “skeptical” position, since skeptics aren’t a close-knit, well organized group, there really isn’t an agreed upon, formally accepted position.
However, many accept:
“There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth’s atmosphere and disruption of the Earth’s climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth.”
from the Petition Project – http://www.petitionproject.org/index.php

Latitude
July 25, 2014 3:35 pm

oh good grief….
If you can prove, via the scientific method, that man-made global climate change is not occurring….
…then you can prove that it is
They haven’t been able to prove that it is………

July 25, 2014 3:45 pm

Bah. You could prove the Earth has actually been cooling for the last hundred years and still not get the money. He would simply say it would have been even colder without manmade warming. What else would you expect from someone who clearly does not understand the scientific method?

July 25, 2014 3:45 pm

Part 2 not found WUWT ;>) it’s broken ;>(

July 25, 2014 3:49 pm

lorne50 –
Uh, this is Part 1.
Part [2] will follow, as noted in the text.

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