How A Coal Baron Fooled Al Gore And The Greens
Andrew Bolt Herald Sun, 26 June 2014
What the hell was Al Gore doing at Palmer’s press conference? Why did the great global warming guru help to sanctify a press conference called by a coal baron to announce the destruction of Australia’s climate change policies?
AUSTRALIA will be left without a major scheme to cut greenhouse gas emissions after Clive Palmer last night backed the repeal of the carbon tax without supporting any concrete alternative…
Mr Palmer said the PUP would propose an emissions trading scheme to put a price on carbon but said it would only start when other nations did the same, an unlikely prospect in the short term.
He also vowed to vote against Tony Abbott’s alternative policy, the $2.8 billion Direct Action spending program, in a move that appears to kill off the scheme given it is also opposed by Labor, the Greens and minor parties.
But Fairfax newspapers buy the spin added by the introduction of warmist guru Al Gore to Palmer’s ludicrous press conference:
Clive Palmer has thrown into chaos Tony Abbott’s plan to abolish the carbon tax, demanding the Prime Minister instead create an emissions trading scheme that would swing into action when Australia’s major trading partners adopt similar measures.
That spin – that Palmer is demanding the carbon tax be scrapped in favour of an emissions trading scheme – is exploded just a few paragraphs later in the very same story:
Mr Palmer made clear that repeal of the carbon tax … would not be contingent on the other measures Mr Palmer proposed on Wednesday night, such as the proposed emissions trading legislation.
UPDATE
CLIVE PALMER: Repeal of the carbon tax is contingent upon the Government bringing into law a system where the energy producers will refund the benefit to their consumers…
TONY JONES: So – but you won’t make your repeal of the carbon tax contingent on any of these other things you want to see happen? That’s a critical question to answer tonight.
CLIVE PALMER: That’s right, yeah.
TONY JONES: So Tony Abbott, when he negotiates you with tomorrow, going on what Greg Hunt is saying today, will be able to offer you fairly easily the kind of agreement that you’ve asked for. Does that mean you’re now convinced you’ll vote the carbon tax out of existence?
CLIVE PALMER: If that’s the case, it is…
It is bad that Palmer will keep the Clean Energy Finance Corporation and (probably) the Climate Change Authority, and it’s alarming that he wants at least the framework created for an emissions trading scheme.
But it is very good that the emissions trading scheme won’t actually get off the ground under the conditions Palmer proposes.
And it is beautiful that Palmer is against Tony Abbott’s direct action policies as well, as are Labor and the Greens.
This means we could end up with a sceptics’ paradise: no carbon tax, no prospect of emissions trading and not even Abbott’s $2.5 billion direct action schemes. That is a huge win.
Thanks, Clive.
It appears easy to fool the gullible.
Support McKitrick’s T3 Tax
Global Warming – The T3 Tax. McKitrick proposed to the UK Parliament: Evidence-Based Approach to Pricing CO2 Emissions.
Please persuade Palmer of the wisdom of Ross McKitrick’s T3 Tax (Temperatures in the Tropical Troposphere). That would compliment his support for an emission tax when Australia’s trading partners also support it.
Together those would be game changers!
Al Gore gets fooled by his own shoe laces.
The key to understanding this is that:
…super genius!!
Maybe he was promised a cruise on Titanic II.
“Eustace Cranch says:
June 26, 2014 at 8:01 am
StoptheRot says:
June 26, 2014 at 6:35 am
I could never reconcile how an idiot could amass a fortune through business ventures. Everything that he did appeared to be further evidence that he was a complete idiot.
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Fervently religious people are always willing to send enormous amounts of money to their evangelist leaders.
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As I recall from ancient history recollections that algore was the son of a former school teacher
that became senator from armand hammer, oil tycoon and part of the family that received the pencil concession for the soviet union after the communists took over.
So what is Gore’s excuse? Has he explained why he was there?
“Kipper” => “Tipper”?
@D.J.Hawkins
Well. something is fishy with Gore. 😉
Here is the You Tube video: Palmer enlightened by Al Gore
That’s what Palmer said yesterday, I wonder what he will say today, and then will that be the same as what he will say the day after ? who knows ? Does he know? And maybe if Abbott waits long enough Palmer will have to leave Parliament over misuse of Chinese funds – then what ?
Palmer United Party, Published policies
Update June 27, 2014: Palmer United Party to vote to repeal carbon tax and emissions trading scheme
There is no doubt Palmer comes across as a complete imbecile. But my question has always been, how can you be in business and make an empire at the same time be a fool? The two are not compatible..
I really don’t understand all the high fiving by the warmists.
You only have to look at Palmers history of past statments on global warming.
He has been nothing less than consistant in his opposition to Abbotts
direct action plan and removal of the CO/2 tax.
I was up in arms over his support for an ETS but after looking closely at the
fine print.
I apoligize Clive.
It’s exactly what former prime minister John Howard said a DECADE ago.
“We will act on global warming but not before the rest of the world”.
All Clives done is give us one his media shows that is reminiscent with of
an organ grinder and his monkey.
A “monkey” who I might add doesn’t work for peanuts.
I wonder if its sunk into the warmists and alarmists heads yet, that they
have been played at their own game of deception?
“So what is Gore’s excuse? Has he explained why he was there?”
I can explain it partially. The Australian “carbon tax” was a fake out by the Labor party, big banks, the Baker law firm, etc. to co-opt the Green Party votes into agreeing to cap and trade. It is/was a delayed bait and switch. Many green true believers know that cap and trade is a scam (no less than James Hansen says so) and want a carbon tax. But carbon dioxide tax money goes to the government, not to the bankers, Chinese offset inventors, all the gang that return money to politicians. So the lobby created a trick bill that looks like a carbon tax, but converts into cap and trade in three years. I call it the “Australia trick”, but it was likely invented by American lawyers.
Gore was there because he was misinformed, or it was unclear that the repeal of the “carbon tax” was just of the tax, not the whole legislation that enacted it, including the cap and trade conversion. He probably thought he and others at Kleiner Perkins were outsmarting the righties.
Goldman Sachs’ Hank Paulson, whom Goldman Sachs loaned to the USA as a past treasury secretary, just went public in opinion pieces about supporting a “carbon tax”. I can guarantee you with 97% certainty, not based on model, meta-analysis, or such junk, that what he is positing is an “Australia Trick” like GS, et al. pulled in Australia. How else would GS profit?
Lewis, all coal fired power is from pulverised coal.
I will add there is a peculiar confusion about what a “carbon tax” is in general discussion (not here) that emanates from American right-wing politics. Someone decided some years back to call cap and trade “a carbon tax” and that caught one with some righties. Sometimes I have read chats where these types incessantly rename cap and trade a “carbon tax.” It is not a plainly not a tax. Why they do this, one can speculate. I think many have a cultic outlook about big business and industry, and it is scary for them to fathom these business interests don’t work in the country’s general interest. Scarier for them is to imagine various business interest use the government against each other, and that is what is the primary motivator here. They like to think of “business” as a “victim” of government. Cap and trade is all about business, carbon tax is money for the government. It is like they have a hole in their head that reality rushes into, and right out of, without leaving any education.
To be “fair and balanced” the lefties I’ve communicated with cannot fathom that their side is mostly business interests too, that have their own, not the people’s, best interest at heart. Many of them are cultic too. The Obama-worship, much of which is worship of themselves projected onto the president, shuts down any critical discussion about something the president supports. Strange times.
Delicious. Hopefully all the bureaucratic paraphernalia will die a death another day.
“Scheme” has a negative denotation only as a verb. The noun is positive. The connotative usage of language, to put it very politely, is killing it!
In North America “scheme”, the noun, has a negative denotation. At least in my parts! Not so in Australia apparently.
About my comments about cap and trade being misnamed a “carbon tax”, I’ll correct that to being misnamed a “tax.” Darn, these crafty PR wordsmiths got me saying “carbon” rather than “carbon dioxide” as a custom almost!
This appears to be a master stroke by big Clive: No Carbon Tax, no effective ETS, no Direct Action Scheme, and all done with the endorsement of Big Al.
I don’t think most of the punters have figured it out yet!
Didn’t Hitler make a pact with Stalin?
@Thingadonta – Molotov Ribbentrop Pact
Ah I feel a new cartoon by Josh, A gleeful Clive Palmer leading his new al gore headed PUP onto the media alter of public opinion. I’m sure Clive would treasure the original image in his rapidly growing selfie collection! A nice dog chain and studded collar would complete the image.
can u imagine how dazed & confsued our CAGW academics/MSM in australia are of late. keep in mind, they – one and all – detest the Prime Minister, Tony Abbott….and they love – one and all – the US President and former VP:
first, following Abbott’s visit to the White House earlier this month, we had:
Barack Obama has offered an olive branch to Prime Minister Tony Abbott on climate change, conceding that he won a mandate in 2013 to get rid of the carbon tax
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/abbott-obama-in-frank-climate-talks-20140613-3a160.html
then, from Gore, yesterday, via Bloomberg:
The former vice president had convinced Palmer to consider Abbott’s laws and that the world needed to work together to combat climate change, the lower-house lawmaker said today.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-25/palmer-to-support-abbott-s-australia-carbon-price-repeal.html
our MSM, which gladly picks up Bloomberg reports that suit the CAGW agenda, have taken no notice of Gore’s advice to Palmer! u have to laugh.
for the benefit of non-australians, Clive Palmer is not the only eccentric (?) entering the Senate next month. perhaps even more incomprehensible, policy-wise, than Clive, is Ricky Muir of the Australian Motoring Enthusiast Party, who is now making his vote to repeal the carbon tax conditional on getting something in return.
CLIVE Palmer’s alliance with incoming Australian Motoring Enthusiast Party senator Ricky Muir may unravel on the very first vote of the new Senate after July 1.
The Australian understands that Mr Muir plans to vote against the carbon tax repeal bills unless the Abbott government supports the automotive transformation scheme…
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/policy/ricky-muir-link-to-pup-strains-on-repeal-bill/story-e6frg6xf-1226968255774
i would have thought motorists stand to suffer more than non-motorists from the many consequences of such a tax, not to mention how such a tax impacts on distribution (trucks, other vehicles) which then increases the cost of EVERYTHING, but Ricky is apparently considering throwing his own spanner in the works. sigh.