Quotes of the Week: Some early comments on the National Climate Assesment report

I had to laugh at this one, because well, it is soooo typical of Joe Romm and the Center for American Progress, which subsists on a daily diet of gloom and doom:

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Countering that, Dr. Roy Spencer has what I think is the best take on it: 

The report is gripping the nation like a global warming polar vortex trapped in place by the swirling toxic vapors emitted by a swarm of possessed SUVs.

The report contains claims of U.S. floods, droughts, severe weather, and heat waves, all of which are not unprecedented compared to centuries past, but are nevertheless known to be the fault of humans.

Ronald Wobbles, the report’s lead author, was quoted as saying (I am not making this up), “We’re already seeing extreme weather and it’s happening now”. This finding stands in stark contrast to 100 years ago, when ‘we saw extreme weather that was happening then’.

More here: Climate Change Mass Hysteria Grips the U.S.

Founder of the Weather Channel, John Coleman says:

So today to launch his new campaign the President has invited a group of television Meteorologist to the White House to interview him on the topic.  The barrage of publicity will be deafening.  I deeply regret that the global warming/climate change thing has become a partisan political issue.  Al Gore made global warming a Platform issue for the Democrat Party and it is now accepted without serious study or scientific consideration by a vast majority of liberals in this country.  And, as politics goes, the Republican Party denies global warming because it is a key issue of the other party without even studying the science.

There are thousands and thousands of scientists who know without a doubt that the entire matter is based on bad science. We fight with everything we have to inform the public of the truth, but the dominate liberal media shuns us and the global warming team calls us names and insults us.

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May 6, 2014 7:10 am

If you are foolish enough to belief that the IPCC is right and the planet will experience unprecedented warming then the logic of extreme weather makes no sense. Extreme weather i.e. violent storms is primarily caused by “large” differences in temperature between two air masses. The IPCC climate models show that the earth’s poles will experience the bulk of the warming they predict so there will have to be less of a difference in temperatures across the plant which means that the extreme weather they predict cannot occur.

May 6, 2014 7:14 am

” Al Gore made global warming a Platform issue for the Democrat Party and it is now accepted without serious study or scientific consideration by a vast majority of liberals in this country. And, as politics goes, the Republican Party denies global warming because it is a key issue of the other party without even studying the science.”
Well, I suspect most of that is true, although I do believe there are some Republicans that have actually studied the science whereas there can’t be any Democrats who have.
Just sayin’.

John Whitman
May 6, 2014 7:25 am

Increasing numbers of US citizens, even democrats, doubt the Democratic Party’s ability to focus on reality. The Democratic Party’s CAGW claims weaken the case for CAGW on that basis alone.
John

May 6, 2014 7:28 am

When in doubt… say it louder?

Ethan Shepard
May 6, 2014 7:33 am

Climate change is real, undeniable, and irrelevant.

Jim G
May 6, 2014 7:47 am

“You never want a serious crisis to go to waste,” Rahm Emanuel. The corallary evidently must be that if there is no such crisis, a good leftist must create one. Then it is a simple task of repeating the lie over and over again until it becomes ‘fact’. An easy task with a complicit news media.

george e. smith
May 6, 2014 7:48 am

“””””…..Ronald Wobbles, the report’s lead author, was quoted as saying (I am not making this up), “We’re already seeing extreme weather and it’s happening now”. This finding stands in stark contrast to 100 years ago, when ‘we saw extreme weather that was happening then’……”””””
So Dr. Roy,
Are you suggesting that ” It’s Now or Never ” ? Izzat what your saying; unless it’s “now” , at whatever time now happens to be, “stuff” happens, but otherwise it doesn’t ??
So time really does stop everything from happening at once.
I learn something everyday; come to think of it, if I don’t learn it now; whenever that is, I never learn it.
Simply wunnerful !!

tgmccoy
May 6, 2014 7:54 am

WW 3 is on our doorstep and they point to the sky and yell:”Squirrel!”

May 6, 2014 7:55 am

e. smith –
No, George, I believe Dr. Spenser is pointing out that we have, have had, and will continue to have, extreme weather, whether it suits the Alarmist position or not.

May 6, 2014 7:57 am

How can anybody honestly transmogrify a global statistical long-term effect such as global warming into localized short-term changes, is beyond science.

DrDanVA
May 6, 2014 8:00 am

Regardless of your beleif in CAGW or global climate disruption or whatever it is being called these days, we are now supposed to believe that an administration that took 3 years and hundreds of millions dollars to build a website that did not work, has the ability to understand all the complexities of the earth’s climate AND the answers to save the planet??
Fool me once, shame on you – fool me twice, shame on me.

Admin
May 6, 2014 8:07 am

Obama wants to be remembered as something other than the first African American President. It is a shame that in his scientific ignorance he picked such a loser issue as climate change.

wws
May 6, 2014 8:10 am

To paraphrase an old saying, you may not be interested in Politics, but Politics is interested in YOU.
You either fight for what is true, or you settle for letting yourself be told what to do those who DID fight for the rest of your life.

May 6, 2014 8:10 am

This finding stands in stark contrast to 100 years ago, when ‘we saw extreme weather that was happening then’.

Love him or hate him, that has to be the classic line of all time! Well said Dr. Spencer!

Jim G
May 6, 2014 8:11 am

omnologos says:
Definition of TRANSMOGRIFY
transitive verb
: to change or alter greatly and often with grotesque or humorous effect
What a great new word for this old linguistically challenged engineer! Thank you.

Russell Johnson
May 6, 2014 8:29 am

The ferocity of Obama’s attacks on middle class life is beyond belief; apparently we are an enemy of the state that must be destroyed. Who else would he pick to pay for his ‘climate war”? His next military action will be to attack the Keystone Pipe Line.

Jim Clarke
May 6, 2014 8:30 am

The weather is little different today than it was hundreds of years ago, except that the incidence of extreme weather may be slightly less today than in centuries past. Still, extreme weather will always happen and the slight variation in frequency should not, in any way, impact our preparation and mitigation of it. Honestly, if you live on the Gulf coast you should be prepared for a hurricane. Does your preparation change if you experience 7 hurricanes in your lifetime as opposed to 8 or 6? Not in the least, and that goes for any other kind of extreme weather event. Any talk of changing policy to fit such minor variations is extreme weather frequency is nothing more than a power grab.
Another thing that has not changed over the centuries is the desire for one man or a small group to completely rule the masses. We grew up thinking that the age of kings and despotic rulers was over, at least in the West, but human nature has no more changed than the climate. There are still those who believe that they are anointed to rule and that the masses are idiots, requiring their ‘divinely’ inspired authority. They live in places like Washington, D. C., Brussels, Moscow, Bejing and Tehran.
Can there be any more doubt that the global warming myth was created for the sole purpose of consolidating power and control? Margaret Thatcher first used it to subdue the coal minors unions in England, but the left took her lead and ran with it. The science is irrelevant. The facts about the climate are irrelevant. Even an actual change in climate would be irrelevant, as the policies promoted to stop such a change would have no impact. This is all about power and control. It is a game…a game of thrones, and we, the people, are considered annoying little pawns by the anointed elite.

May 6, 2014 8:37 am

From a layman’s perspective:
We were told that based on “the science”:
1. Man is responsible for significant increases in CO2
2. Increased CO2 causes global warming.
3. Runaway warming will cause extreme weather events.
But although CO2 has indeed gone up, there has been no warming for 17-20 years. What is the science that allows them to now leave step 2 out of their explanations of “climate disruption”?
Are they saying that the run-up in temps between ’78 and ’98 caused a drought in California and floods in England THIS year?
……..just asking.

Colin Richardson
May 6, 2014 8:37 am

It’s really a shame to see a University of Miami Geology Professor join the CAGW zealots and make statements like this:
“We already have water in the streets in places like Key West and on Bayshore Drive,”
Key West has a long history of flooding. This article (The Blue Paper | Key West’s Lower Duval Street: A History of Flooding) describes why Duval Street frequently floods. The writer ends with: “Blame it on the hurricane of 1846 if you wish.” So, we “already HAD” that, Professor!
Assuming the good professor is speaking of Bayshore Drive in Miami, we can easily find an article (Hurricanes: Science and Society: 1926- Great Miami Hurricane) which shows this picture of Bayshore Drive, flooded back in 1926. Imagine that!
Another history describes the 1944 hurricane and says: ” Tides at Miami Beach were 4.5 feet above mean low water; portions of Miami saw flooding up to 10.7 feet; and at Cutler Ridge, about fifteen miles south of Miami, the … Boats of all kinds were tossed out of Biscayne Bay across South Bayshore Drive and ended up in piles of rubble near Mary Street.
Don’t geology professors check their facts??
Coli
EXTRACTS: The National Climate Assessment, which was overseen by a committee of 60 scientists, carves the nation into 11 regions, with the Southeast, as well as the Caribbean, sitting squarely in the crosshairs of climate change. In a draft of the report, which the final version is expected to mirror, the scientists call the area “exceptionally vulnerable” to risks from man-made climate change including rising seas, more extreme heat and dropping water supplies.
It is the first federal assessment since 2009 and comes at a time when climate change, particularly in South Florida, increasingly garners national attention.
“We already have water in the streets in places like Key West and on Bayshore Drive,” said Harold Wanless, a University of Miami geology professor who has long studied climate change. “We’ve created an immense problem.”
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/05/05/4099681/white-house-climate-assessment.html#storylink=cpy
Click here: White House climate assessment puts South Florida at high risk – Environment – MiamiHerald.com

May 6, 2014 8:38 am

So the Obama administration is sounding the climate alarm with this NCA report as the basis to wage war on our coal-fired power plants. The irony of this is that the Clinton administration terminated a project which would have provided a superior, emissions-free alternative to these coal-fired plants back in 1994, claiming that “we didn’t need it”. And Nixon did the same thing back in the early 1970s with another such project at ORNL. I am talking of course about the IFR/PRISM and LFTR nuclear reactors, respectively.
The stupidity truly does burn.

Editor
May 6, 2014 8:38 am

National Climate Assesment Report is a political document, not a scientific one.

Reply to  Bob Tisdale
May 6, 2014 12:24 pm

Tisdale – just like the IPCC ARs

climatologist
May 6, 2014 8:38 am

Irresponsible.

pochas
May 6, 2014 8:44 am

Political stuff the liberals came up with…

Walter Allensworth
May 6, 2014 8:49 am

It pains me to say so, but I must quote George Carlin…
“Consider how stupid the average person is… and now consider that half of them are stupider than that!”
The Democrats are just lapping up this guilt-driven wild grab for power by their leaders. Hey, as long as they can get free stuff, paid for by the working class, why not?
They will do so until they see themselves enslaved, and then it will be too late.

William Astley
May 6, 2014 8:53 am

tgmccoy says:
May 6, 2014 at 7:54 am
WW 3 is on our doorstep and they point to the sky and yell:”Squirrel!”
William:
The number one issue for the US and most developed countries is well paying jobs. “it is the economy stupid!’. The US is copying the EU plan for economic ruin. How is the EU plan working out?
It is pathetic and dangerous to the functioning of our democracy that the liberals and some climate change ‘scientists’ believe it is acceptable and constructive for governments and the UN to create propaganda to push AGW as a crisis and to waste money on green scams.
As it is a fact that extreme deficit spending and printing money leads to a currency collapse – the issue is the insidious scheme can continue for years kicking the can down the road before the consequences move to the nightly news – national and international problems must be prioritized. There is a limited amount of money to spend on everything. Fiscal reality applies to both liberals and conservatives. If budgets must be balanced, then money must be spent effectively, treated a precious limited resource.
Subsidizing (by increase the cost of electricity for all users) green scam wind farms and solar farms and/or increasing the cost of energy for all users by carbon taxes, will not significantly reduce CO2 emissions and will most certainly not stop the climate from changing, will definitely result in an indirect tax on all US consumers and industry, and will result in more well paying jobs moving from the US to Asia.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/06/20/if-things-continue-as-they-have-been-in-five-years-at-the-latest-we-will-need-to-acknowledge-that-something-is-fundamentally-wrong-with-our-climate-models/
J Bryan Kramer writes of this interview with IPCC lead author Hans Van Storch in SPIEGEL.
Storch: …. ….Temperature increases are also very much dependent on clouds, which can both amplify and mitigate the greenhouse effect. For as long as I’ve been working in this field, for over 30 years, there has unfortunately been very little progress made in the simulation of clouds.
Storch: Certainly the greatest mistake of climate researchers has been giving the impression that they are declaring the definitive truth. The end result is foolishness along the lines of the climate protection brochures recently published by Germany’s Federal Environmental Agency under the title “Sie erwärmt sich doch” (“The Earth is getting warmer”). Pamphlets like that aren’t going to convince any skeptics. It’s not a bad thing to make mistakes and have to correct them. The only thing that was bad was acting beforehand as if we were infallible. By doing so, we have gambled away the most important asset we have as scientists: the public’s trust. We went through something similar with deforestation, too — and then we didn’t hear much about the topic for a long time.
Storch: …Unfortunately, some scientists behave like preachers, delivering sermons to people (William: James Hansen for example. The problem is once you have stated the sky is falling and the science is settled it is very, very difficult to admit you were 100% incorrect.). What this approach ignores is the fact that there are many threats in our world that must be weighed against one another. If I’m driving my car and find myself speeding toward an obstacle, I can’t simple yank the wheel to the side without first checking to see if I’ll instead be driving straight into a crowd of people. Climate researchers cannot and should not take this process of weighing different factors out of the hands of politics and society.

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