Cosmic Rays, Sunspots, and Beryllium

Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach

In investigations of the past history of cosmic rays, the deposition rates (flux rates) of the beryllium isotope 10Be are often used as a proxy for the amount of cosmic rays. This is because 10Be is produced, inter alia, by cosmic rays in the atmosphere. Being a congenitally inquisitive type of fellow, I thought I’d look to see just how good a proxy 10Be might be for solar activity. Now most folks would likely do a search of the literature first, to find out what is currently known about the subject.

I don’t like doing that. Oh, the literature search is important, don’t get me wrong … but I postpone it as long as I possibly can. You see, I don’t want to be mesmerized by what is claimed to be already known. I want to look whatever it is with a fresh eye, what the Buddhists call “Beginner’s Mind”, unencumbered by decades of claims and counter-claims. In short, what I do when faced with a new field is to go find some data and analyze it. After I’ve found out what I can from the dataset, and only then, do I search the literature to find out what other folks might believe. Yes, it costs me sometimes … but usually it allows me to find things that other folks have overlooked.

In this case, I found a gem of a dataset. Here is the author’s summary:

Annually-resolved polar ice core 10Be records spanning the Neutron Monitor era

Abstract: Annually-resolved 10Be concentrations, stable water isotope ratios and accumulation rate data from the DSS site on Law Dome, East Antarctica (spanning 1936-2009) and the Das2 site, south-east Greenland (1936-2002).

The only thing better than data is recent data, because it is more likely to be accurate, and here we have seven decades of recent 10Be deposition rates (fluxes). So, without fanfare, here’s the data in question

10be flux rates greenland antarcticaFigure 1. 10Be flux rates from Law Dome in Antarctica and from Southeast Greenland. Bottom panel shows the annual average sunspot count.

So … what’s not to like about these records? Well … lots of things.

The first unlikable item is that the correlation between these two 10Be datasets is pathetic, only 0.07. Seems to me like this would be enough in itself to put the whole 10Be—cosmic rays connection into doubt. I mean, if the two best recent dataset don’t agree with each other, then what are we supposed to believe?

The next problem is even larger. It is the lack of any clear 11-year signal from the variations in cosmic rays. It is well-known that cosmic rays are deflected from the solar system by the magnetic field of the sun, which varies in general sync with the sunspots. As a result, the numbers of cosmic rays, and presumably the 10Be flux rates, vary in an 11-year cycle inversely to the sunspot cycle. Here’s what the relationship looks like:

thule greenland neutron monitorFigure 2. Sunspots and cosmic rays (as indicated by the neutron count). SOURCE

So the relation between cosmic rays and sunspots is quite solid, as you can see above. However, the problem with the 10Be records in this regard is … they have no power in the 11-year cycle range. Sunspot data has power in that range, as does the neutron count data representing cosmic rays … but the 10Be data shows nothing in that range. Here’s the periodicity analysis (see here et seq. for details of periodicity analyses):

periodicity analysis greenland antarcticaFigure 3. Periodicity analysis of the two datasets shown in Figure 1, 10Be flux from Greenland and Antarctica

As you can see, we have no power in either the 11-year or 22-year bands … and if you look at Figure 1, you can see that their correlation with the sunspots is … well … pathetic. The correlation between Greenland 10Be and sunspots is -0.10, and between Antarctica 10Be and sunspots is even worse, -0.03 … like I said, pathetic. A cross-correlation analysis shows slightly greater correlations with a 2 year lag, but not much. However, the lack of the 11-year peaks periodicity analysis (or visible 11-year peaks in the 10Be data) suggests that the lag is spurious.

The problem is, both the sunspots and the cosmic ray counts have a huge peak in periodicity at 10-11 years … but the 10Be records show nothing of the sort.

So, at this point I’m in as much mystery as when I started. We have two beryllium-10 records. They don’t agree with each other. And according to both periodicity and correlation analysis, they don’t show any sign of being connected to anything related to the sunspots, whether by way of cosmic rays, TSI, or anything else …

Now that I’ve finished the analysis, I find that the notes to the dataset say:

Cosmogenic 10Be in polar ice cores is a primary proxy for past solar activity. However, interpretation of the 10Be record is hindered by limited understanding of the physical processes governing its atmospheric transport and deposition to the ice sheets. This issue is addressed by evaluating two accurately dated, annually resolved ice core 10Be records against modern solar activity observations and instrumental and reanalysis climate data. The cores are sampled from the DSS site on Law Dome, East Antarctica (spanning 1936–2009) and the Das2 site, south-east Greenland (1936–2002), permitting inter-hemispheric comparisons.

Concentrations at both DSS and Das2 are significantly correlated to the 11-yr solar cycle modulation of cosmic ray intensity, r = 0.54 with 95% CI [0.31; 0.70], and r = 0.45 with 95% CI [0.22; 0.62], respectively. For both sites, if fluxes are used instead of concentrations then correlations with solar activity decrease.

If you use flux rates the “Correlations with solar activity decrease”??? Yeah, they do … they decrease to insignificance. And this is a big problem. It’s a good thing I didn’t read the notes first …

Now, my understanding is that using 10Be concentrations in ice cores doesn’t give valid results. This is because the 10Be is coming down from the sky … but so is the snow. As a result, the concentration is a factor of both the 10Be flux and the snow accumulation rate. So if we want to understand the production and subsequent deposition rate of 10Be, it is necessary to correct the 10Be concentrations by using the corresponding snow accumulation rate to give us the actual flux rate. So 10Be flux rates should show a better correlation with sunspots than concentrations, because they’re free of the confounding variable of snow accumulation rate.

As a result, I’ve used the flux rates and not the concentrations … and found nothing of interest. No correlation between the datasets, no 11-year periodicity, no relationship to the solar cycle.

What am I missing here? What am I doing wrong? How can they use the concentration of 10Be rather than the flux? Are we getting accurate results from the ice cores? If not, why not?

These questions and more … please note that I make no overarching claims about the utility of 10Be as a proxy for sunspots or cosmic rays. I’m just saying that this particular 10Be data would make a p-poor proxy for anything … and once again I’m raising what to me is an important question:

If the 10Be deposition rate is claimed to be a proxy for the long-term small changes in overall levels of cosmic rays … why is there no sign in these datasets of it responding to the much larger 11-year change in cosmic rays?

I have the same question about cosmic rays and temperature. There is no sign of an 11-year cycle in the temperature, meaning any influence of cosmic rays is tiny enough to be lost in the noise. So since temperature doesn’t respond to large 11-year fluctuations in cosmic rays, why would we expect temperature to track much smaller long-term changes in the cosmic ray levels?

Always more questions than answers, may it ever be so.

My regards to everyone, guest authors, commenters, and lurkers … and of course, Anthony and the tireless mods, without whom this whole circus wouldn’t work at all.

w.

COMMENTS: Please quote the exact words that you are referring to in your comment. I’m tired of trying to guess what folks are talking about. Quote’m or you won’t get traction from me. Even if the reference is blatantly obvious to you, it may not be to others. So please, quote the exact words.

DATA: 10Be original data, Excel spreadsheet

Extracted Data for Use In R

Monthly Sunspot Data SIDC

CODE: Just for fun, I’ll put it here to show how tough this particular analysis was:

source("~/periodicity functions.R")

par(mgp=c(2,1,0),cex.axis=1)

spotsraw=ts(read.csv("monthly ssn.csv")[,2],start=c(1749,1),frequency=12)

Annual.Sunspots=window(aggregate(spotsraw,frequency=1,FUN=mean),start=1937,end=2009)

plot(Annual.Sunspots)

theflux=ts(read.csv("Polar 10Be Flux.csv")[,2:3],start=1937,frequency=1)

theoxy=ts(read.csv("Polar 10Be Flux.csv")[,4:5],start=1937,frequency=1)

plot(cbind(theflux,theoxy))

fulldata=cbind(theflux[,1],theflux[,2],Annual.Sunspots)

colnames(fulldata) = c("Greenland 10Be Flux","Antarctica 10Be Flux","Sunspots")

plot(fulldata,main="",yax.flip=TRUE)

title(main="10Be Flux Rates in Greenland and Antarctica\n(atoms / square metre / second)",

      line=1,cex.main=1.1)

cor(ts.intersect(fulldata),use="pairwise.complete.obs")

periodsd(theflux[,1],doplot=TRUE,timeinterval=1,add=FALSE,col="blue3",

         maintitle="Periodicity Analysis, Ice Core 10Be Flux\nGreenland (blue) and Antarctica (red)")

periodsd(theflux[,2],doplot=TRUE,timeinterval=1,add=TRUE,col="green3")

You’ll need the code for the periodicity functions, it’s here.

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davidgmills
April 15, 2014 9:23 am

Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alarmism — CACA?

E.M.Smith
Editor
April 15, 2014 9:30 am

@Willis:
Love your point about looking with fresh eyes… Somewhere or other I read a reference that most of the breakthroughs made in various fields came from newcomers to the field. Folks without the pre-existing dogma filters. Ever since then I’ve done a modified form of what you do. I look around a “little bit” to get the big chunks of what’s likely correct, then plunge in on my own; only then go back to a literature search.
In general, I’ve found far more interesting stuff in the “first plunge” than any time after. Usually a couple of dogmatic things end up naked and pathetic looking. It’s a great technique, IMHO.
Per Be: It sure looks like it is more of a precipitation proxy than a cosmic ray proxy.
So, can we show a 10-11 year precipitation cycle with solar coorelation? If so, then Be is still a valid solar indicator, just not a very good cosmic ray indicator… and for reasons other than radiation…. They might have the coorelation right, but the causality wrong 😉

April 15, 2014 9:59 am

lsvalgaard says:
April 15, 2014 at 9:19 am
“As long as you don’t specify what you call the Earth’s magnetic field the plot is useless. Is GMF the dipole component, the average total field over the surface or over a region, or what?”
Hi Doc
Nice to see that you are still around.
We discussed it on a many occasion. Data is calculated by LeMouel, Jackson & Bloxham; it is used by JPL-NASA, but if you do suspect quality of their data, please do tell them off.
I only put their data through my spectrum analyser.

April 15, 2014 10:14 am

vuk says:
April 15, 2014 at 9:59 am
We discussed it on a many occasion. Data is calculated by LeMouel, Jackson & Bloxham; it is used by JPL-NASA, but if you do suspect quality of their data, please do tell them off.
It is not them who are at fault here, but you. You did not specify what the data represent or give a link to them. Just to say that the data is calculated by something does not give people a clue to what the data are and how to get them.

E.M.Smith
Editor
April 15, 2014 10:18 am

cd says:
“I guess my first questioned is are the data smoothed?”
No, just annually averaged.
w.

Um, harvesting a nit here… Isn’t an “annual average” a kind of data smoothing?…

lsvalgaard says:
It then comes down to establishing whether or not a GIVEN person belongs to that population and THAT you cannot do without direct evidence about that person, and that is the flaw in your argument.

Unfortunately, the Global Warming Fuddites have done such a wonderful job of corrupting pretty much every organ of science with spurious papers “proving” that CO2 causes everything from hangnails to obesity to extinctions and volcanoes that it means ANY scientist is now tarnished with their brush.
I don’t say that lightly. Most of my sentient life I’ve loved science as a pure tool of truth. Any scientist was given the “benefit of the doubt” with a “probably correct until shown wrong”. Painted with a “trustworthy assessment” above all others.
Post AGW Alarmism, I find that my attitudes have been shifted (against my will and desires…) to ones that assert “ANY scientist is likely to be lying, self delusional, or a grant whore – possibly more than any other motivation – and with only a weak motivation for ‘the truth’; until shown otherwise.” Painted with a “trustworthy assessment” below that of politicians (to whom they are handmaidens, or worse, now…) and used car salesmen (who at least deliver a real product). I don’t like it; but there it is. There are now thousands (millions?) of obviously politically driven junk papers published as evidence.
So now I am skeptical first, doubtful second, suspicious third, challenging fourth, investigative fifth etc. etc. of ANYONE and ANY PAPER from “scientists”. That burns my soul more than anything else in the whole AGW farce. That they sacrificed honor in science on the altar of PC.
So you get splattered with “collateral damage” from that. Sorry, but “reputation” no longer matters… and “science” of today has a bad one anyway… (And that from someone who wanted to be in science from about age 5, and my first chemistry set, on to today; and cherished my first white lab coat…)

April 15, 2014 10:22 am

E.M.Smith says:
April 15, 2014 at 10:18 am
it means ANY scientist is now tarnished with their brush.
And so you would claim that because a nut shoots people in Kansas that ALL Americans are racist. I get your drift.

milodonharlani
April 15, 2014 10:30 am

davidgmills says:
April 15, 2014 at 9:23 am
Yes. IMO CACA or CACCA is now preferable to CAGW. But they both stand for BS.
At best, a scientific case can be made for MAGW, where M stands for Mild, or BAGW, with B for Beneficial.
But the GCMs remain worse than worthless WAGs. They overstate the positive feedback from water vapor by a factor of 3, 4 or more (in earlier IPeCaC reports), while ignoring the powerful negative feedback of clouds condensed from higher atmospheric molecular H2O content, if indeed that is ever shown to happen at all from increased CO2.
GCMs commit the logical fallacy of begging the question, ie assuming what they intend to demonstrate. They’re designed to show global T increasing with CO2 concentration alarmingly, so that’s what they do. However they bear no (or negative) relationship to the real climate system, as shown by comparison with actual observations. Models just look sciency, allowing CACA prophets of doom to profit from the scam more readily. It’s a hoax & were it not for a possible chilling effect on real science, its charlatan tricksters should be hauled up on fraud, conspiracy, theft, extortion & manslaughter charges.
Continued CO2 increases might make the world as much as 0.3 degrees C warmer over the next 30 years than it would have been without further increase from 400 ppm, but I doubt even that mild, beneficial effect. As indicated by my prediction for the next climate fluctuation, IMO more CO2 won’t offset natural variability enough to prevent global cooling between now & c. 2036.

milodonharlani
April 15, 2014 10:36 am

davidgmills says:
April 15, 2014 at 9:23 am
(Tried to post this previously, but it didn’t take. Have removed a possibly offending sentence. Apologies for duplication if the original appears too.)
Yes. IMO CACA or CACCA is now preferable to CAGW. But they both stand for BS.
At best, a scientific case can be made for MAGW, where M stands for Mild, or BAGW, with B for Beneficial.
But the GCMs remain worse than worthless WAGs. They overstate the positive feedback from water vapor by a factor of 3, 4 or more (in earlier IPeCaC reports), while ignoring the powerful negative feedback of clouds condensed from higher atmospheric molecular H2O content, if indeed that is ever shown to happen at all from increased CO2.
GCMs commit the logical fallacy of begging the question, ie assuming what they intend to demonstrate. They’re designed to show global T increasing with CO2 concentration alarmingly, so that’s what they do. However they bear no (or negative) relationship to the real climate system, as shown by comparison with actual observations. Models just look sciencey, allowing CACA prophets of doom to profit from the scam more readily.
Continued CO2 increases might make the world as much as 0.3 degrees C warmer over the next 30 years than it would have been without further increase from 400 ppm, but I doubt even that mild, beneficial effect. As indicated by my prediction for the next climate fluctuation, IMO more CO2 won’t offset natural variability enough to prevent global cooling between now & c. 2036.

E.M.Smith
Editor
April 15, 2014 10:43 am

No, Leif, you don’t get my drift.
“Once a significant percentage of folks from Kansas have started shooting at folks, I’ll wear a bullet proof vest when visiting Kansas” is a more accurate paraphrase. All people in Kansas then being looked at cautiously, though not convicted nor even accused.
Note that “significant percentage” is not the same as your “a nut”. You also transition from “shoots people” to “racist” in a strange lack of connection. “A nut” often shoots people for non-racist reasons. So no, your non-sequitur is non-useful.
It is really a very simple thing. Rather like the problem with Priests and little boys. There was a time when Priests were seen as impeccable by many folks (myself included). Those days are now gone thanks to a “significant percentage” of Priests caught doing bad things. That does not mean “ALL” Priests are bad and can not control themselves around little boys; but it does mean I’d not hand my kid over to ANY Priest without a lot of checking…
Your resort to an “reductio ad absurdum” argument may make you feel better, but only hides the truth, rather than advancing it.
The simple truth is that the reputation of ALL scientists is tarnished and made suspect (until proven otherwise by investigation, possibly repeatedly) by the follies of the “science establishment” that has vetted and published so much junk under their auspices of authority while wrapped in the mantle of Science. They roll with the pigs, and got muddy. Now the mud flies to anyone near them. That’s all scientists. Folks like you now need to find ways to wash it off or distance yourselves. That’s not happened yet.

milodonharlani
April 15, 2014 10:44 am

davidgmills says:
April 15, 2014 at 9:23 am
Yes. IMO CACA or CACCA is now preferable to CAGW. But the whole scam is BS.
At best, a scientific case can be made for MAGW, where M stands for Mild, or BAGW, with B for Beneficial.
But the GCMs remain worse than worthless WAGs.
(Haven’t been able to post. Apologies if prior attempted versions of this show up later.)

April 15, 2014 10:47 am

E.M.Smith says:
April 15, 2014 at 10:43 am
The simple truth is that the reputation of ALL scientists is tarnished and made suspect
Painting everybody with the same brush is not a reasonable thing to do. But, hey, there should be room in this world for all kind of people, so have it your way.

April 15, 2014 11:03 am

Just a quick comment here regarding the Younger Dryas, as I see it was mentioned briefly earlier. There are many scientists such As Dr. William Napier and a number of other scientists, mostly Astronomers, that link the large increases in both carbon 14 and 10 Beryllium to encounters with comets and or asteroids. I concur with that view. Rod Chilton, climatologist.

milodonharlani
April 15, 2014 11:55 am

davidgmills says:
April 15, 2014 at 9:23 am
Yes. IMO CACA or CACCA is now preferable to CAGW. But by any acronym, the scam is BS.
At best, a scientific case can be made for MAGW, where M stands for Mild, or BAGW, with B for Beneficial.
But the GCMs remain worse than worthless WAGs. They overstate the positive feedback from water vapor by a factor of 3, 4 or more (in earlier IPeCaC reports), while ignoring the powerful negative feedbacks of evaporative cooling & clouds condensed from higher atmospheric molecular H2O content, if indeed that is ever shown to happen at all from increased CO2.
GCMs commit the logical fallacy of begging the question, ie assuming what they intend to demonstrate. They’re designed to show global T increasing with CO2 concentration alarmingly, so that’s what they do. However they bear no (or negative) relationship to the real climate system, as shown by comparison with actual observations. Models just look sciencey, allowing CACA prophets of doom to profit from the scam more readily. It’s a hoax & were it not for a possible chilling effect on real science, its charlatan tricksters should be hauled up on fraud, conspiracy, theft, extortion & manslaughter charges.
Continued CO2 increases might make the world as much as 0.3 degrees C warmer over the next 30 years than it would have been without further increase from 400 ppm, but I doubt even that mild, beneficial effect. As indicated by my prediction for the next climate fluctuation, IMO more CO2 won’t offset natural variability enough to prevent global cooling between now & c. 2036.

milodonharlani
April 15, 2014 12:29 pm

davidgmills says:
April 15, 2014 at 9:23 am
Yes. IMO CACA or CACCA is now preferable to CAGW. But regardless of acronym, the hypothesis is BS.
At best, a scientific case can be made for MAGW, where M stands for Mild, or BAGW, with B for Beneficial.
But the GCMs remain worse than worthless WAGs. They overstate the positive feedback from water vapor by a factor of 3, 4 or more (in earlier IPeCaC reports), while ignoring the powerful negative feedbacks of evaporative cooling & of clouds condensed from higher atmospheric molecular H2O content, if indeed that is ever shown to happen at all from increased CO2.
GCMs commit the logical fallacy of begging the question, ie assuming what they intend to demonstrate. They’re designed to show global T increasing with CO2 concentration alarmingly, so that’s what they do. However they bear no (or negative) relationship to the real climate system, as shown by comparison with actual observations. Models just look sciencey, allowing CACA prophets of doom to profit from the scam more readily. It’s a hoax & were it not for a possible chilling effect on real science, its charlatan tricksters should be hauled up on fraud, conspiracy, theft, extortion & manslaughter charges.
Continued CO2 increases might make the world as much as 0.3 degrees C warmer over the next 30 years than it would have been without further increase from 400 ppm, but I doubt even that mild, beneficial effect. As indicated by my prediction for the next climate fluctuation, IMO more CO2 won’t offset natural variability enough to prevent global cooling between now & c. 2036.

milodonharlani
April 15, 2014 12:30 pm

davidgmills says:
April 15, 2014 at 9:23 am
Yes. IMO CACA or CACCA is now preferable to CAGW. But regardless of acronym, the hypothesis is BS.
At best, a scientific case can be made for MAGW, where M stands for Mild, or BAGW, with B for Beneficial.

milodonharlani
April 15, 2014 12:38 pm

Mods: Please remove duplicate postings above after the initial comment. I didn’t receive a pending notice on any of them. Sorry. Thanks.

ren
April 15, 2014 12:46 pm
April 15, 2014 3:27 pm

Steven Mosher says:
“CET is from a location that is quite unique geographically speaking. That is, it is not representative.”
It is an ideal location for a proxy for the NAO/AO.

April 15, 2014 3:40 pm

lsvalgaard says:
April 15, 2014 at 10:14 am
“Just to say that the data is calculated by something does not give people a clue to what the data are and how to get them.”
Dr. Svalgaard
No need to look for clues, I have added 10Be Concentration 1932 – 2009 vs SSN 1932 – 2009 spectra
http://www.vukcevic.talktalk.net/GMF-10Be.htm
You have data, so you can check it out.

Gary Pearse
April 15, 2014 4:03 pm

First question (anyone) is it not possible to measure 10Be flux or concentrations directly at the present time to establish that there is an actual relation with cosmic ray flux? Perhaps this might be possible using an air sampler on an airplane. Second, there are lots of reasons why 10Be is unlikely to be properly sampled from the atmosphere in the snowfall building up the ice:
a) I think there is too much weather going on to expect an accurate accumulation measure by year in ice core. If the stuff even fell down as a reasonable sample, frequent blizzards and drifting would disrupt the record before there was any consolidation.
b) Isn’t there supposed to be a grand mix up in the firn for last 60 years or more of accumulation? Presumably this is the reason we can’t get CO2 or 18O2 measures in the ice for the period of the instrumental temperature record.
c) What is the settling rate of a very light atom, lighter than the atmospheric molecules and what about Brownian motion – minute particles in a gas (or liquid) move chaotically because of collisions with the gas molecules. It seems to me they would never settle. The sample is likely from the small percentage of atoms that would collide with the surface of the earth. These, logically, would be part of multiyears of formation, maybe even suspended in the atmosphere over several solar cycles.

April 15, 2014 4:54 pm

vukcevic says:
April 15, 2014 at 3:40 pm
You have data, so you can check it out.
You are evasive (again), but even if I had, that would not help other folks trying to understand what you are showing.

Gary Pearse says:
April 15, 2014 at 4:03 pm
First question (anyone) is it not possible to measure 10Be flux or concentrations directly at the present time to establish that there is an actual relation with cosmic ray flux? Perhaps this might be possible using an air sampler on an airplane.

The total amount of 10Be produced over the globe per year is 2 ounces (55 gram) so there is not much to sample.

April 15, 2014 5:18 pm

Tony
No contradiction
Just perspective
1 people need to realize that there are other long records beside cet
2. Its not geographically representative. Northern latitude island with a very small seasonal range
3. Its well correlated but thats true of many records
4. A solid analysis would look at all data.
5. Its not some sort of magical gold standard.
I dont mind measured reasoned claims about it. Claims made that are fully caveated and compared with others.
You guys never do that.
Get it

April 15, 2014 6:14 pm

Very interesting post Willis,
This is the data from the “Polar 10Be flux.csv” file you posted above (Greenland), I’ve manually plotted the data to a SSN record to investigate timescale issues.. You will notice a remarkable pattern, which has a similar frequency to the sunspot record.
Graph n. http://thetempestspark.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/10be-n.jpg
Graph p. http://thetempestspark.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/10be-p.jpg
Awhile ago I also noticed in the ‘noise’ of the 10Be data a similarity between the overall trend of solar activity and the 10Be data.
Here is a graph of the ‘noise’: http://thetempestspark.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/ngrip-10be-1.gif
Here are three graphs showing 10Be v SSN to ponder.
The first one is a 600-year-annual-10be-graph, ngrip-10be-4
http://thetempestspark.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/ngrip-10be-4.gif
The next two graphs show the sunspot record and 10Be manually plotted the same way as graph “n” and “p” above.
http://thetempestspark.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/ngrip-10be-6.gif
http://thetempestspark.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/ngrip-10be-8.gif

April 15, 2014 6:46 pm

Sparks says:
April 15, 2014 at 6:14 pm
The first one is a 600-year-annual-10be-graph, ngrip-10be-4
http://thetempestspark.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/ngrip-10be-4.gif

400-year

April 15, 2014 6:50 pm

lsvalgaard says:
April 15, 2014 at 6:46 pm
“400-year”
Thanks Leif. D’oh!

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