The sanctioned punishment of climate skeptics becomes more than just a few aberrant ideas, and is following some historical parallels
First, I loathe having to write essays like this, but I think it is necessary given the hostile social climate now seen to be emerging.
Yesterday, WUWT highlighted the NYT cartoon depicting killing “deniers” for having a different opinion, today I want to highlight Naomi Orekses and Suzanne Goldenberg, who seem seem to like the idea of having climate “deniers” arrested under RICO act for thought collusion, all under the approving eye of the Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs at Harvard.
Watch the video: The RICO quote is about 1:12:30 in the video. Note that none of the panelists blinks an eye at the suggestion. They are all smiling after Oreskes finishes.
From the description of the video:
The science is clear: drastic global climate change due to human activities threatens our planet. Yet, a well-funded international campaign continues to deny the scientific consensus, foment public doubt and oppose action. The media—especially social media—have helped fuel false controversy and climate skepticism. How can climate change communication be improved?
Panel discussion with:
Suzanne Goldberg, U.S. Environment Correspondent, The Guardian
Dr. Naomi Oreskes, Professor of the History of Science, Harvard University
Dr. Peter Frumhoff, Director of Science & Policy, Union of Concerned Scientists
Moderated by:
Cristine Russell, Senior Fellow, Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs’ Environment and Natural Resources Program
Introduction by:
Henry Lee, Director, Belfer Center’s Environment and Natural Resources Program
February 13, 2014
Of course, no prominent climate skeptics were invited to give a counterpoint, though WUWT does make an appearance.
An actual quote from Goldenberg in the video at 2:50
“I don’t know what CAGW was”
This makes me wonder just how competent she is to write about the topic. The irony is completed full circle though. At 2:20 she claims WUWT “actually isn’t about science” while our “best science blog” banners are projected near her head and while highlighting Justin Gillis, tell us again about “the Bigger Picture” (an opinion piece) and A relationship between Sea Ice Anomalies, SSTs, and the ENSO? (a science piece).
At least we know they are reading WUWT.
Goldenberg won’t cover the topics we cover, simply because she isn’t capable and is in the employ of a newspaper (the Guardian) with a clear goal to push only one viewpoint about climate. And, her objectivity, now that she runs in this circle of friends, is blown out of the water.
Oreskes, who authored the book Merchants of Doubt, seems to think that climate skeptics are little more than paid shills, deserving of criminal status, while Goldenberg works tirelessly to create strawmen houses out of the thinnest of research, which she publishes in the Guardian. She also follows the Oreskes mindset in thinking that we all must be on somebody’s payroll and that we are all part of a “secret network” of well funded climate resistance.
Lately, this sort of hateful and distorted thinking is getting a bit worrisome as statistician William Briggs observes:
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RICO-style prosecution. For what tangible crime? Well, heresy.
(Has to be heresy. The amount of money I have extorted from my skepticism hovers between nada and nil.)
This put me in mind of a passage from from Dawn to Decadence by the indispensable Jacques Barzun (pp 271-272):
The smallest divergence from the absolute is grave error and wickedness. From there it is a short step to declaring war on the misbelievers. When faith is both intellectual and visceral, the overwhelming justification is that heresy imperils other souls. If the erring sheep will not recant, he or she becomes a source of error in others….[P]ersecution is a health measure that stops the spread of an infectious disease—all the more necessary that souls matter more than bodies.
Even though not all admit this, their actions prove that souls are more important than bodies. Thought crimes are in many senses worse than physical crimes; they excite more comment and are more difficult to be forgiven for. Perhaps the worst crime is to be accused of racism (the charges needn’t be, and frequently are not, true; the accusation makes the charge true enough). It is now a thought crime to speak out against sodomy (and to say you personally are a participant is a matter of media celebration).
Barzun said that sins against political correctness “so far” have only been punished by “opprobrium, loss of employment, and virtual exclusion from the profession.” (I can confirm these.) Barzun said, “any form of persecution implies an amazing belief in the power of ideas, indeed of mere words casually spoken.”
The Enlightened, who simper when calling each other “free thinkers”, in one of their favorite myths tell us how they left the crime of heresy behind. The word has been forgotten, maybe, but not the idea.
Stalin sent his victims to the firing squad for the crime of “counter-revolution”, not heresy. Being repulsed by sodomy is not heresy, it is “homophobic”. Believing in God and practicing that belief is not heresy, but “fundamentalism.” Cautioning that affirmative action may cause the pains the program is meant to alleviate isn’t heresy, but “racism.” Saying that unskillful Climate models which routinely bust their predictions should not be trusted is not heresy, but is “anti-science.”
Boy, has Science come up in the world to be a personage one can sin against.
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And AlexJC notes in Der Ewige “Denier” on the NYT cartoon depicting killing “deniers” that a pattern is emerging.
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Some commentators on WUWT have likened this little scene to Nazi anti-Jewish propaganda in the 1930s, and I’m inclined to agree. There’s a pertinent article, called “Defining the Enemy” on the website of the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum:
One crucial factor in creating a cohesive group is to define who is excluded from membership. Nazi propagandists contributed to the regime’s policies by publicly identifying groups for exclusion, inciting hatred or cultivating indifference, and justifying their pariah status to the populace.
There’s a picture you can find online of the “stereotypical Jew”, which was drawn by Nazi cartoonist Philipp “Fips” Rupprecht and published in the newspaper Der Stürmer sometime before the end of World War II. Although different in some respects to the “stereotypical Denier” in the NYT, there are a number of similarities. Both subjects are male, well-dressed, rather plump and well-fed and standing with their chests slightly thrust out. Both have distinctive noses – the Jew has a large hooked nose and the Denier has one that is more reminiscent of a pig’s snout. Both are smoking a cigar, which is clearly the mark of an evil plutocrat anywhere, Jewish or otherwise. The similarities are quite unsettling.
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Indeed, they are, and worse yet, few if any, in the general science community seem to have the courage to stand up and say anything about these people and the actions they do and/or suggest as being inappropriate or antithetical to science.
Roy Spencer is the exception for scientists who have decided to speak out against this hate and smear, and has decided to fight back by labeling anyone who calls him a “climate denier” as a “climate Nazi”. I’m not sure how effective or useful that will be, but clearly he’s reached a tipping point. He adds:
A couple people in comments have questioned my use of “Nazi”, which might be considered over the top. Considering the fact that these people are supporting policies that will kill far more people than the Nazis ever did — all in the name of what they consider to be a righteous cause — I think it is very appropriate. Again, I didn’t start the name-calling.

The parallels with what occurred in pre-WWII Germany seem to be emerging with the constant smearing of climate skeptics for the purpose of social isolation, and now Oreskes is calling for members of this group to be charged with crimes under RICO. This isn’t new, we’ve heard these calls for climate skeptics to be arrested before, such as Grist’s David Roberts who proposed Nuremberg style trials for climate skeptics, but lately it seems to be picking up speed.
We even have people in the same climate clique playing virtual dress up as Nazis, such as we’ve learned recently from the “Skeptical Science” forum showing proprietor John Cook in full Nazi uniform in the image seen at right. There were several Nazi images depicting SkS.
And, there’s the call for removing dissenting opinion from the press, such as from “Forecast the Facts” (a funded NGO that attacks media)
“Brad Johnson (@ClimateBrad), the editor of HillHeat.com and a former Think Progress staffer, boasted on Twitter that 110,000 people had urged the newspaper “to stop publishing climate lies” like the Krauthammer piece.”
We’ve already seen one prominent newspaper refuse to publish letters from climate skeptics with others following suit.
What is most troubling to me is that Oreskes and Goldenberg appear to be of Jewish descent (as does Dr. Michael Mann) and yet they all seem blind to the pattern of behavior they are engaging in and advocating; the social isolation and prosecution of climate skeptics which seems so reminiscent of the ugliness in times past. I honestly don’t understand how they can’t see what they are doing to silence climate skeptics is so very wrong.
It does seem true, that those who don’t learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
From my viewpoint, the only way to combat this ugliness is with taking a stand. These tactics must be called out when they are used. I urge readers to write thoughtful and factual letters, guest commentary where accepted, and blog posts, countering such smear whenever appropriate.
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Timetochooseagain, I’m pretty sure Jim Davidson meant to type unfortunately. Nobody would come on here and contend moderation in the pursuit of justice is a good thing.
Double damn, link went wrong…
P.S. see ‘The CAGW Memeplex’ here.
“Khwarizmi says:
February 24, 2014 at 12:49 pm
Yesterdays cartoon was a SKEPTIC cartoon not a warmist one.
Pretending otherwise doesn’t make it so.”
Problem is, if most of the people (I won’t say 97 percent ….) who view the cartoon see it as, er, skewering skeptics, if the cartoonist intended it to mock warmists, then he missed his mark. FAIL.
dbstealey says: February 24, 2014 at 12:53 pm
“The problem is that scared people with power are very dangerous…”
Very true!
I, as a German, would strongly recommend that Roy Spencer not use the “climate nazi” term.
Not out of some kind of sensibility for the past but for a completely different reason – you see; Germany today has as its founding myth being against fascism. So the “Nazi” is the eternal scapegoat in all debates here. You really don’t have to deviate far from the party line to be called one. For instance, being against the Euro might suffice. Because somewhere in some Euro country some Nazi is against the Euro, you must be one as well etc. And as all our journalists are pretty left wing, including the state broadcasters, we hear the warning of mythical Nazis day in day out, and five Hitler documentaries a day.
So please don’t use the word where it’s not applicable; it just gets lame so fast.
The climate fanatics will unite their followers behind them. But they will also unite everyone else against them. Of course they are too stupid to realise this.
Khwarizmi says:
February 24, 2014 at 12:49 pm
“Yesterdays cartoon was a SKEPTIC cartoon not a warmist one.
Pretending otherwise doesn’t make it so.”
Stereotyping skeptics as Monopoly millionaires smoking cigars? If you or the cartoonist think that’s funny or a good depiction of climate skeptics… For me it looked like typical “Kochtopus” style NYT agitprop.
Maybe the cartoonist just tries to crawl into the NYT’s backside to keep the job. Well, Judas, if he’s a skeptic.
All of this is why the Mann lawsuits are so important to defeat. I love that Steyn has countersued on freedom of speech grounds. I don’t know if you can do that in Canada, but it would probably be nice if Ball could do it in his case as well.
I wonder if Lord Deben is reading this posting and comments. I hope so. His call for a more civil debate would be welcome if he started by directing towards Oreske and other of her ilk. He should call these folks out for their behavior. Unfortunately, there are so many of them it would be a full time job.
I hope that Anthony has sent a copy of this posting to Lord Deben. He needs to read it.
They keep saying “The science is clear: drastic global climate change due to human activities threatens our planet.” yet I’m a scientist and have followed the studies since the mid 1980’s and to me, it’s not clear at all. What’s clear is the climate is incredibly complex and we have very little understanding of the vast majority of it.
So what evidence do they have, that I haven’t seen, to be so darn sure of themselves?
Judith Curry kids you not! Merchants of Doubt is about to become a movie:
http://judithcurry.com/2014/01/03/week-in-review-10/
I don’t know how good the dialog will be.
“Why that’s outrageous Dr Santer! I can’t believe that they … ah … they … ah, what was it they did again?”
People like MM get funded by a university which in turn is funded by the government. An example of making fun of this whilst making a point is to do a Monty Python skit eg “I’m a Lumberjack” and turning it into a song where he fleeces money from the public.
I’m a scientist and I don’t care
I take you’re money and I fleece you bare.
This type of stuff has to be put out there for example you tube and publicized.
@James Baldwin Ard-I don’t think anyone anywhere should really be thinking moderation in the pursuit of justice is a good thing. But a lot of people do think so. So I don’t know that I can assume that was just a typo. I’d certainly hope so.
“DirkH says:
February 24, 2014 at 1:01 pm”
Yep, it’s amazing how the left is about all that’s left….not much difference, if any, between Spiegel, Stern, and Focus; and when Focus quotes Bild….oh my….I guess I’d say an out-of-focus picture of a star in the mirror….
How about Carbon critters? Warmist weenies? Chicken Littles (the sky is falling….)?
Weathermelons…False Profits of Doom?
Godwin’s law and “Nazis”
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck. ..
No “law” should require calling it something else.
The truly frightening thing about the 10-10 snuff flick was not the gory simulated murder of children in front of their classmates. It’s the fact that of the several dozen people involved in making the video, not one stood up and said, “What we’re doing here is hideously sick.” They all thought it was “just a joke–very funny.” These people have been emotionally readied to light the ovens.
We are lucky in these United States. Here is what life CAN be like. (This is a blog that I follow most every day.) It is about one of the Left’s great heroes.
http://www.worldaffairsjournal.org/blog/michael-j-totten/only-way-out-exile
Regards,
Steamboat Jack (Jon Jewett’s evil twin)
The notorious AGW proponents are now witnessing their faith, reputation, career and life’s work go down the drain. They have pushed their uncompromising stance so forcefully that the inevitable is likely to qualify as extreme, awful fate. This would explain the anger – the second of the five stages of grief by Kübler-Ross. But no worries, the next stages will be more productive. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model
DirkH, that’s why I used the term…because it IS applicable….for several reasons. If it doesn’t play well in Germany (which I expected anyway) that’s OK by me.
Just because others have overused the term doesn’t mean it never fits. And I probably would have restrained myself from using it, if not for being accused so many times for being as evil as a Holocaust denier.
Yes, they know just what they are doing when they call us “deniers”. It is NOT a generic term.
Extraordinary for someone in such a position of responsibility to make threats and incite people to persecute others. It is irresponsible and foolish for Oreskes to threaten people for no other reason than she disagrees with their constitutional freedom to have a different point of view. It is especially dangerous to do it from her post at a university where her inflammatory language could potentially put students and staff at risk from any idiot who takes offence. Parents of students at her university should be concerned.
It is appalling that those who appear to be of Jewish descent could so quickly forget that their ancestors were violently persecuted throughout their history. That they are so easily able to persecute others for not accepting their beliefs is a betrayal of the welcome the United States gave all those who escaped from fascist genocide.
Concerning Mann, I understand (though this could be wrong) that his grandfather, Max, emigrated from Russia and found refuge in the United States. He was apparently a physician who set up a private practice in Philadelphia.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-27809-32846-4?cc=2000219&wc=M9QX-M51:n1790760009
Oreskes and company would seem to be more vulnerable to RICO prosecution than any skeptic; not to mention obtaining government funding under false pretenses – and conspiracy to violate the civil rights of skeptics.
Hitler and Giebbels would have been proud.
I remember towards the end of the Soviet Union’s tenure, some of its dissidents spoke out for the “right to be wrong,” the right to be mistaken in one’s opinion, the right to hold erroneous views (erroneous in the state’s view). It sounded, and ought still to sound, like something controversial only in a dictatorship, not in a free country.
But I can’t help feeling that the current nasty talk involves an effort to bait or distract.
Dear Mr. Duster,
In the light of Anthony’s post on smearing people, your question regarding my post refers to Mr. Courtney who is of the mind to make personal attacks on the character of others. He is of the belief that labeling a person wins the day. And Mr. Courtney continues down his path of character assassination even though the obvious truth is staring him in the face. To answer your question, yesterday there was this post (typically I would just move on, but Mr. Courtney insists on dragging me through a sewer) :
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Paul Westhaver says:
February 23, 2014 at 9:31 am
Anthony,
I am sure you are well aware now that your pantomimed death is not an aspiration from the greenies alone.
I maintain that the culture of death, largely overlaps with the green movement and as such influences the green movement at an operational level. The culture of death comes from left political wing.
The green death culture, the socialists, have no qualms about lying to achieve a political and social end nor do the have any qualms about killing to achieve their goals.
Look at history, the socialists are responsible for the death of 262,000,000 people in the last 110 years. See: Death by government::
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE1.HTM
This cartoon should be taken very seriously by Anthony et al because this web site (WUWT) is not just about asserting true science and wonder, it is a major thorn in the side and obstacle to very evil forces that mean to have their way, come what may, even it that involves killing Mr Watts.
If you wait long enough, evil murder-oriented leftists will always show their true natures. This cartoon is just an example of what is really on the mind of the left. If they could get away with it, they would kill us all. It has happened in the past and it is happening now and it will happen again. It always starts from a socialist government and their supporters asserting some phony leftist ideal. This time it is Earth God. It always ends with mass-murder. Cambodia,, China, Germany, Ukraine etc… 262,000,000 dead at the hands of the socialist left.
Today Anthony is a cartoon vampire in the New Your Times. Tomorrow he is an obituary.
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From which I took the link and posted this so all could see the links basic content:
highflight56433 says:
February 23, 2014 at 12:33 pm
“Look at history, the socialists are responsible for the death of 262,000,000 people in the last 110 years. See: Death by government:”
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE1.HTM
JUST IN CASE YOU NEED A GOOD VISUAL OF THE NUMBERS
1. 169,202,000 Murdered: Summary and Conclusions [20th Century Democide]
I BACKGROUND
2. The New Concept of Democide [Definition of Democide]
3. Over 133,147,000 Murdered: Pre-Twentieth Century Democide
II 128,168,000 VICTIMS: THE DEKA-MEGAMURDERERS
4. 61,911,000 Murdered: The Soviet Gulag State
5. 35,236,000 Murdered: The Communist Chinese Ant Hill
6. 20,946,000 Murdered: The Nazi Genocide State
7. 10,214,000 Murdered: The Depraved Nationalist Regime
III 19,178,000 VICTIMS: THE LESSER MEGA-MURDERERS
8. 5,964,000 Murdered: Japan’s Savage Military
9. 2,035,000 Murdered: The Khmer Rouge Hell State
10. 1,883,000 Murdered: Turkey’s Genocidal Purges
11. 1,670,000 Murdered: The Vietnamese War State
12. 1,585,000 Murdered: Poland’s Ethnic Cleansing
13. 1,503,000 Murdered: The Pakistani Cutthroat State
14. 1,072,000 Murdered: Tito’s Slaughterhouse
IV 4,145,000 VICTIMS: SUSPECTED MEGAMURDERERS
15. 1,663,000 Murdered? Orwellian North Korea
16. 1,417,000 Murdered? Barbarous Mexico
17. 1,066,000 Murdered? Feudal Russia
I do not see it as a joke. It is as many here have said. History will repeat. The list of what they think has become what they say. Soon it will be what they do. Go stand in those places listed above and think of the number of full football stadiums of souls wasted.
Be vigilant.
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However, Mr. Courtney took some offense. Here is his post:
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richardscourtney says:
February 23, 2014 at 12:50 pm
highflight56433:
Your post at February 23, 2014 at 12:33 pm is yet another example of an anonymous ultra-right troll trying to pretend that anything they don’t like is “socialist”.
Totalitarians come from all parts of the political spectrum. Your list is of murderous totalitarian governments. For example, any list is plain daft when – as yours – it claims to be of “socialists” and includes e.g. “Feudal Russia”.
Russia
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And from there Mr. Courtney went to a new level:
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richardscourtney says:
February 23, 2014 at 1:31 pm
highflight56433:
You compound your offensive, untrue and silly post at February 23, 2014 at 12:33 pm by your childish excuse for that troll;ing which you provide in your post at February 23, 2014 at 1:21 pm.
YOU POSTED THAT LIST TO THIS THREAD. AND YOU MADE THE LIE THAT IT WAS A LIST OF “SOCIALIST” GOVERNMENTS.
It does not matter where you obtained the list. And it does not matter if anyone else had made ther lie before: you have made the infantile excuse that “Little Johny did it first”.
I really despise anonymous trolls!
Richard
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Mr. Courtney continues his personal attack with:
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richardscourtney says:
February 23, 2014 at 2:13 pm
highflight56433:
This thread is about hate against a group being expressed in a cartoon.
Your posts expressed similar untrue demonisation of another group; i.e. socialists.
How dare you accuse me of “hate” in your post at February 23, 2014 at 2:00 pm!?
You expressed the hate and I objected – and object – to it.
I am angry at your hateful, unprovoked and untrue attack.
As I said, murderous totalitatarian governments are from across the political spectrum. Indeed, your list demonstrates that. But you lie that only “socialists” do such evil things.
Allowing hateful lies such as yours against any group enables H1tlerianism. Indeed, such lies are H1tlerianism. You are nasty, very nasty.
But you say “Bye” before apologising for your behaviour.
Richard
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However, Mr. Westhaver stepped in to explain to Mr. Courtney the error has slipped in to:
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Paul Westhaver says:
February 23, 2014 at 3:39 pm
M Courtney,
I defined the group at 9:31 am after Roy Spenser at 8:06 am.
Climate alarm-ism is well-known to be wealth redistribution scam…that is axiomatic.
In fact, to say that AGW is socialism borders on a tautology. You don’t actually have to say it anymore.
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Thus, my post that there are individuals HERE that make personal slanderous attacks on others, similar to what we get from CAGW warmistas, hence creating the necessity to defend yourself. Which I did. Nicely. Less the name calling.
Now this post from which being civil seems to escape Mr. Courtney.
Socialists are people who embrace using aggression, coercion and violence to force their will on others, so this isn’t surprising at all.
DirkH says: “I, as a German, would strongly recommend that Roy Spencer not use the “climate nazi” term.”
I agree, they should use a more country specific term.
For example in Germany they should use:
National Socialist German Climate Workers’ Party
It describes the devotees perfectly
Suzanne Goldberg, a journalist of a British newspaper, is talking with casually aristocratic airs as if she was a US politician. I am British and find this embarrassing – like the Guardian’s attempt to influence the Iowa vote during the Bush – Gore election. Are there any Americans who find this offensive?
There is a large pile of journalists who need to understand that they are not elected and that their grabs for political power always undermine democracy. They need to ask themselves how much they care about democracy and, if they don’t, what does this make them?