January solar cycle 24 numbers, a new high for one, continued slumps for others

The NOAA Space Weather Prediction Center released their January 2014 solar data, and it has one small surprise, the 10.7 radio flux is the highest ever in cycle 24, the other metrics, not so much.

SSN has been about where the much adjusted prediction line says it should  be for the last four months. 

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The 10.7cm radio flux hits a new high.

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Meanwhile, the Ap magnetic index continues its slump as it has since October 2005, bumping along the bottom.

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February 6, 2014 8:15 pm

Bob Weber says:
February 6, 2014 at 8:06 pm
Uh, I made a mistake in how I said something. I meant to say that I believe the Universe is infinite in time and space, and that what is more absurd is saying that the Universe of everything is finite and started with a bang from nothing
Frankly, I can’t tell the difference between the two statements, but that doesn’t really matter. That you consider modern Precision Cosmology to be absurd just shows that you are not willing to learn about the greatest story ever told – for philosophical reasons (?) also known as prejudice. Just like your unwillingness to learn about the fundamental role of the magnetic field in generating the transient electric effects we occasionally see.

February 6, 2014 10:49 pm

Bob Weber says:
February 6, 2014 at 7:36 pm
I can’t wait to read your paper, “Geomagnetic Activity: Dependence on Solar Wind Parameters”, and see what I else I can learn from you.
A paper written a few years before that paper, gives a complimentary view of the physics of the interaction: http://www.leif.org/research/Geomagnetic-Response-to-Solar-Wind.pdf
Amazingly, very little has changed in the 41 years since I wrote that paper, except that we now have extensive experimental evidence that we were on the right track back then.
Note the prominence in both papers of the electrical currents generated by the neutral [but highly conducting] solar wind plasma running into the [almost stationary] magnetic field of the Earth, converting solar wind kinetic energy into electric currents with attendant magnetic and other effects.

Policycritic
February 7, 2014 12:13 am

lsvalgaard says:
February 6, 2014 at 10:49 pm
http://www.leif.org/research/Geomagnetic-Response-to-Solar-Wind.pdf

Thanks for access/link to this paper. I’ve been following this thread with some interest (in between the detours I apologize for adding). I was captivated by Dr. Hiroko Miyahara’s talk last year on GRCs and climate at the Tokyo conference you also presented at. As a layman, I know zip, but appreciate the significant time and energy those of you who know your stuff are willing to spend educating us, even though you must feel as if you’re pulling spinach out of your teeth. Your paper is on my iPad reading list and I am going to read it. Thx.

February 7, 2014 3:23 am

Policycritic (February 6, 2014 at 3:56 pm) “Wages have gone down 19% since the early 70s in the aggregate”
Right and that has nothing to do with double digit inflation, created in the 1970’s by Burns. You say:
“It proves one of my points: people still don’t understand what it means to be off the gold-standard 100% and how that affected monetary operations, and neither did Volker then, who thought that if you restricted the reserves you would control the money supply and curb inflation; he made it worse. It had nothing to do with gold because we were not pegged to it.”
Ok, the gold price chart was not a good choice on my part. Here’s the CPI: http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/fredgraph.png?&id=CPIAUCSL&scale=Left&range=Custom&cosd=1970-01-01&coed=1990-01-01&line_color=%230000ff&link_values=false&line_style=Solid&mark_type=NONE&mw=4&lw=1&ost=-99999&oet=99999&mma=0&fml=a&fq=Monthly
The chart shows that the psychological part of “price inflation” had responded to the “monetary inflation by the late 70’s. The predictable result of those excesses was the worst recession since the Great Depression, which can certainly be “blamed” on Volker and his tight money policy. The other result was taming of inflation in the 80’s. Volker broke the inflationary spiral which was caused by loose monetary policy. The psychological (spiral) part of inflation is shown by the concave shape of the curve. Once inflation became linear in the 80’s and 90’s most of the nonsense of hoarding precious metals, other commodities, artwork, etc went by the wayside.
Nowadays thanks to Greenspan and Bernanke and their policy of propping up large banks using monetary inflation, precious metal speculation is back. Price inflation is not, thanks to those same policies which hurt rather than help the economy by discouraging long term investment in favor of short term speculation. Overall, we have a deflationary tendency like Japan in the 90’s. That won’t end until sound monetary policy is restored, corporate taxes lowered, etc.

rgbatduke
February 7, 2014 12:16 pm

Nowadays thanks to Greenspan and Bernanke and their policy of propping up large banks using monetary inflation, precious metal speculation is back. Price inflation is not, thanks to those same policies which hurt rather than help the economy by discouraging long term investment in favor of short term speculation. Overall, we have a deflationary tendency like Japan in the 90′s. That won’t end until sound monetary policy is restored, corporate taxes lowered, etc.
Or, maybe, possibly, the elimination of the Fed? I’ve heard that bandied about. Over its tenure, having a federation of banks under the nominal control of the government in charge of dynamically negotiating a national monetary policy and supposedly controlling it by the means of only a tiny handful of “controls” might be likened to putting tribal shaman foxes in charge of the henhouse to care for the hens by means of blessing them and cursing them with ritual chants and roosters slaughtered with a black-handled athame on the steps of the NYSE.
And that’s before one starts to think about money laundering and the shadow government/economy that accounts for a staggering fraction of bank business, where we rarely get to see more than the well-concealed tip of a mighty iceberg.
I don’t have strong feelings about this, BTW, but on the hijacked economics subthread you two both sound like you know a lot more than I do, and it is interesting to listen to you both propose entirely plausible and fact-supported theories for the super-inflation of the late 70s/early 80s — as long as I don’t have to pick which one of you is right…;-)
But the stuff I’ve read about the evils of the Federal Reserve system is somewhat compelling. I’m not sure what one might create to either replace it or how one might transition away from a complex economy being driven in a highly multivariate and nonlinear space by a single drunk one-eyed conductor who can only see back along the direction the train has come from, armed only with a brake.
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Reply to  rgbatduke
February 7, 2014 12:21 pm

Constitutionally, the individual states are empowered to coin money. The Federal government is not.
Not saying it’s an answer – just pointing out what the founding document has to say about it. Might be interesting to explore (theoretically) the possibilities of that becoming the case once again.

Policycritic
February 7, 2014 4:34 pm

eric1skeptic says:
February 7, 2014 at 3:23 am

Eric, that rise in the CPI (Consumer Price Index) chart you linked to was not psychological. It was real. It reflected the high cost of money and doing business when the interest rate on loans was so high. It pushed prices higher, which was one of my points earlier about inflation when it is on the cost side (energy, etc). Ordinary businessmen had to pay 20% rates–the cost of money–in the early 80s to borrow for regular business operations like financing raw materials and finishing operations of their manufacture.
It also started the outsourcing movement, incidentally. The consequences of Volker’s ignorance were real.
I’m glad this is the end of a thread and off the radar because if it was higher, I’d get screams and yells for what I am about to say, but the figures are there and there is an actual article (had to search for hours to prove it), and it is this: what really brought down inflation and improved the economy was not Volker but Reagan’s massive deficit spending. It fired the economy up, which was running ice cold in spite of an ‘apparent’ inflation (which should have indicated full employment and smokin’ aggregate demand, but didn’t) that was not real but manufactured. Reagan did it, or so he thought, to prevent the Democrats from introducing any more government social programs. He thought the deficit spending would bury the Democrats. Idiot savant.
In 1985, Stockman let the cat out of the bag; Tom Wicker reported it.

After the budget director’s resignation, Sen. Moynihan of New York said Stockman had told him that even in 1981 Reagan knew the tax cuts would mean loss of revenue, but that the president had accepted the resulting rise In the deficit in order to bring pressure on Congress to cut spending.
That sharply contradicts what Reagan then publicly argued that cutting taxes would expand the economic base and increase revenues. In his 1980 campaign, he even contended that the increase in revenues resulting from the tax cut would pay for the military buildup he also planned.
But Moynihan said Stockman had told him that in 1981, “the plan was to have a strategic deficit that would give you an argument for cutting back the programs that weren’t desired. It got out of hand. ‘
Stockman, a former student of Moynihan’s, has denied “any such conversation” but not the substance of the allegation. Moynihan said he had had dozens of private talks with the budget director; their “thrust,” the senator said, was that ” the principal purpose of the tax cuts was to provide a basis upon which to shrink Government.”
Sen. Ernest Hollings of South Carolina, the ranking Democrat on the Budget Committee, has made a similar charge. He told the Association for a Better New York in January 1984 that Reagan “intentionally created a deficit so large that we Democrats will never have enough money to build the sort of government programs we want.”

The interesting thing in that 1985 article I link to is Freidrich Hayek’s comment. He was 84 at the time. Perhaps he was unaware that the US was 100% monetarily sovereign as of 1971. Perhaps he had no clue was that portended. Because he made one of the singular most idiotic statements that reflect what many Americans still believe today about how our economy works.

“I really believe Reagan is fundamentally a decent and honest man. His politics? When the government of the United States borrows a large part of the savings of the world, a consequence is that capital must become scarce and expensive in the whole world. That’s a problem.”

The USA doesn’t borrow squat! We are the monopoly creators of the US dollar. No one on the planet can make them, or issue them, unless they are counterfeiting. We are 100% monetarily sovereign. Period. As I wrote above, after the US Treasury spends into the economy per congressional appropriations, it then issues treasury securities—bills, notes, and bonds, prints them up at the Bureau of Engraving and Printing, or did until April 1 of 2013 when they became electronic–then auctions them to Americans (Fed can’t buy them) and the world on the 15th of the month to rebalance the money supply, to rebalance the spending. It doesn’t have to issue treasury securities for any financial reasons; it does it to help the rich reduce their risk, or people/companies/foreign govts and banks, with more that 250Gs in their savings accounts. 11-12% of US money are physical cash/dollar bills and coins. The rest of US ‘money’ are treasury securities (‘net financial assets’). Separately, the difference annually between the amount congress spends and the amount received in taxes is the deficit, but that deficit amount does not take into consideration US Treasury operations just described! It’s a phony index by which to judge things other than to indicate when spending needs to be higher because unemployment is high (because people can’t pay the tax).
That said, I agree with you that we have “we have a deflationary tendency like Japan in the 90′s. ” But it’s fiscal policy that’s going to change it: constitutionally Congress (fiscal) has to act, not the Fed (monetary). Congress has to lower taxes, get rid of FICA to help the middle class and poor, and increase deficit spending. Our deficit is far too small right now in this economy for the size of government we need, but that’s a story for another thread. Nice talking to you.

Policycritic
February 7, 2014 4:43 pm

TonyG says:
February 7, 2014 at 12:21 pm
Constitutionally, the individual states are empowered to coin money. The Federal government is not.

That’s not true. The Legal Tender Laws of the 1870s ironed all that out in the US Supreme Court. The upshot: anything the US federal government slaps the US Government Seal on and declares as legal tender in the payment of taxes is legal tender. They could use logs or chopsticks.
The federal agency, the US Mint, creates coins.

February 7, 2014 4:56 pm

RGB, the Fed can bring out strong opinions. I don’t think the Fed needs to be abolished but it does need another Volker or someone even better.
It is a really bad idea to prop up big banks by buying mortgages that they churn while pretending that this helps the economy. It is ludicrous that the average Joe American should have the “right” to pay 4% or so for a loan on an overpriced house, while drowning in credit card debt, with generally diminishing job prospects, with little in the way of retirement savings, with a country that has unfunded obligations in the 10x GDP range. Properly priced credit would be a 15% mortgage at this point. Then a bank holding that mortgage would offer 10% on long term CD’s.
The essence of what Volker did is allow credit to become properly priced. When I put my money into a savings account in those days I got 15% interest because my money was highly valued, and even a little overvalued. But that switched the bulk of investors from short term speculation in commodities and collectables into long term investments which increased the productive capacity of the economy.
The other bad idea by the Fed is to print up money and give it to politicians to spend. That seems to be ok with some people but it is incredibly short sighted. It doesn’t necessary cause price inflation since a lot of the money goes to political connected investors who reinvest it in some way and a little to other constituents who live more or less hand to mouth. But it is a drug that it hard to withdraw and can lead to Zimbabwe style inflation in the worst case.
Our economy doesn’t need more credit or large banks or refinanced homeowners. It simply needs lower corporate tax rates (not the highest in the world) and lower long term gains taxes with those terms extended to 5 or 10 years. It also needs far fewer regulations. Price controls on debit cards? Come on.

February 7, 2014 5:08 pm

Policycritic said: “The USA doesn’t borrow squat! We are the monopoly creators of the US dollar. No one on the planet can make them, or issue them, unless they are counterfeiting. We are 100% monetarily sovereign. Period. ”
Sure, and as I point out that is not sustainable.
Policycritic also said: “Congress has to lower taxes, get rid of FICA to help the middle class and poor, and…”
That’s fine. But please leave printing and spending out of your equation, it is not sustainable.

Policycritic
February 7, 2014 5:32 pm

eric1skeptic says:
February 7, 2014 at 3:23 am
Nowadays thanks to Greenspan and Bernanke and their policy of propping up large banks using monetary inflation, precious metal speculation is back.

They’re actually mutually exclusive. Allowing banks to speculate in commodities is, in my view alone, another goddam criminal act of dicking with the resources of this country that are the wealth of the people. The stuff was here before we were born and it’s under our collective feet. We own it—just like we own the airwaves that get licensed to business altho’ the govt gets the money, not us—if the idea of a social contract of a government, of the people, by the people, blah-blah-blah is to be believed. Allowing the banks to drive up the prices of these national assets affects the cost of business, the manufacture of products, and ultimately aggregate demand. It should be business demand that decides these prices. This is financial—not industrial—capitalism at its worse. Where is Congress? Why aren’t they stopping this? Banks should be made to go back what they do best: making prosaic home and business loans. Nothing else. Banks are public-private entities—like the military, like the Post Office—regulated by federal government charter. What is Congress doing allowing them to run a casino that excludes but ultimately affects the American people?
This: “their policy of propping up large banks using monetary inflation.” You talking about QE?

Policycritic
February 7, 2014 6:03 pm

eric1skeptic says:
February 7, 2014 at 5:08 pm
Policycritic said: “The USA doesn’t borrow squat! We are the monopoly creators of the US dollar. No one on the planet can make them, or issue them, unless they are counterfeiting. We are 100% monetarily sovereign. Period. ”
Sure, and as I point out that is not sustainable.

Of course it’s sustainable! It is how our monetary system works–it’s how the middle class was built in the 50s and 60s–and we’re not alone. There are five countries in the world that are 100% monetarily sovereign, which means they can pay for any debts, buy anything they want that are denominated in their own currencies. The bond vigilantes can’t get them because they don’t have to borrow outside the currencies that they alone create: Great Britain (Cameron is an idiot), Canada, Japan, Australia, and the USA. Japan has a credit rating below Botswana, an extraordinarily high standard of living, and its currency is one of the strongest in the world even with a Debt-to-GDP of 200%: no bond vigilantes there, Japan can thumb their noses at them.
Look what happens when you don’t create and control your own currency: the Eurozone. Greece, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Iceland, Ireland, and 9 others all gave up their own currencies to adopt the experimental Euro controlled by unknown men with cruel tendencies no one votes for. Those formerly sovereign countries turned themselves into US states, incapable of creating (issuing) the currency that they could use to monetize their operations. The Eurozone countries are subject to bond vigilantes that swooped in to loan them money at high rates (because of the risk) taking the country’s national resources as collateral. Look at the unemployment. Look at the devastation to lives. Look at the destruction.
We have a fiat currency, what’s wrong with that? Joe Q Public should know how it works so that he benefits by sticking a hot poker up his congressman’s rear for his lack of action. Because right now those who do know how it works are using their knowledge to scarf everything up for themselves.
[And don’t get me started on Jack Lew–one of the architects of the 2008 Great Recession which no one knows–and Obama because we’ll be here until December. ;-)]

February 7, 2014 6:40 pm

“another goddam criminal act of dicking with the resources of this country that are the wealth of the people. The”
If the banks are incentivized to do speculate in PM’s then that is what they will do. It doesn’t matter whether you think it is criminal or should be regulated or not, they will find a way to do it.
“Banks should be made to go back what they do best: making prosaic home and business loans.”
I agree with that completely. Credit should be priced properly so that money is valued properly. With a (for example) 5% rate for savers, they could loan money to small businesses at 10%, absorb risks and make adequate profit. That means money being saved is both investment and deferred consumption.
“It is how our monetary system works–it’s how the middle class was built in the 50s and 60s–and we’re not alone.”
Total rubbish. We didn’t build the middle class by printing money and having the politicians hand it out, but rather by productive capacity created by long term investment that came from a sound currency. The downhill slide of the middle class started in the 70’s when we debased the currency and has continued more or less since then.
“Look what happens when you don’t create and control your own currency: the Eurozone. Greece, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Iceland, Ireland, and 9 others all gave up their own currencies to adopt the experimental Euro controlled by unknown men with cruel tendencies no one votes for.”
Those countries were destroyed by socialism not by tight money. But we can certainly agree that adopting the euro was a huge mistake. Just like in Ukraine right now where there is a fake populist movement to join the EU. But we both know that only a few Ukrainians benefit in the long run by Ukraine joining the EU. It is primarily the elite in those countries like Greece that benefitted. And oh yes, the people got some great purchases for a while with an excessively strong currency. Look at all the nice made-in-China crap in Greek households that is now probably broken.
Once that party ended the 50% civilian labor participation rate caught up quickly: http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SL.TLF.CACT.ZS
Very simply, if your country’s citizens are not working productive, private jobs, then you will need a weak currency to increase exports and that is when you are correct about that. A weak currency also depresses imports of crap from China which is generally healthy. But you cannot turn that into simply printing money and handing it out to people unless you want to create an inflationary spiral, black markets, etc.

Policycritic
February 7, 2014 7:31 pm

Eric, there’s a great little book, only 87 pages, that came out 10 months by the former Deputy Secretary of the US Treasury, Frank N Newman. It’s called Freedom from National Debt. Think that’s it. Available on Kindle, too. He explains US Treasury operations in simple plain language, and the logic of it, how our monetary system works operationally. How our fiat money works. You might be interested in picking it up. As he explains in the book, the National Debt (also called Debt Held by the Public), that huge $17 trillion+ number is nothing more than a record of all currency created by the federal government since 1791 minus the amount of currency destroyed (taxes). It’s a record of what we own, not owe. We should be experiencing a period of untold prosperity right now, not the shambles this ignorance of how our monetary system works from an accounting point of view is making of people’s lives.

Policycritic
February 7, 2014 7:43 pm

[Think this will be my last on this topic. Too much weekend stuff.]

rgbatduke says:
February 7, 2014 at 12:16 pm
Or, maybe, possibly, the elimination of the Fed? […] But the stuff I’ve read about the evils of the Federal Reserve system is somewhat compelling.

The books that started it were those by Eustace Mullins, Thomas Scharf (Sharf?), and Gary Kah. All of them understood the monetary system as if we were still on the gold-standard, and all of them were subject to the arrogant opacity of the Federal Reserve, who refused for decades to reveal their operations. So these authors guessed. If you eliminate the Fed, you’re still going to want a central bank to be a lender of last resort and regulate the nation’s payment systems. Not to mention as a check-and-balance against corrupt politicians who might otherwise have access to the nation’s treasury through their congressional power to spend alone. Only Congress can tell the US Treasury what to spend, not the Fed or central bank. The Fed does not print up dollars to give to politicians to spend.
The Fed is nothing more than a fancy payday loan operation with big buildings and wood-paneled walls, the better to justify a couple of bottles of Opel for lunch on their expense accounts. It has two kinds of bank accounts: checking and savings, just like your bank. The Fed gives them fancy names to bamboozle the public and especially journalists who prefer exotic theories to operational reality: reserves (checking) and securities (savings) accounts. That’s it.
The Fed is the US Treasury’s banker. The US Treasury has a general account at the Fed. By law, from the days of the gold-standard—pre-1934—the US Treasury is not allowed to run a negative balance, although hat wouldn’t matter. When Congress appropriates a spending bill, it contains the authority for the US Treasury to spend that interest-free real money into the economy. The US Treasury then authorizes the Fed to mark up its general account by the amount of spending. They probably use Excel. So let’s say Congress appropriates $250 billion to fix all the roads in the national parks. The Fed would mark up the US Treasury’s general account by $250B with a keystroke, then pay the vendors by marking up with a keystroke their banks’ checking accounts at the Fed (for onward forwarding to the vendor), increasing the money supply by $250B, and at the same time subtract each payment to each vendor—marking down with a keystroke—from the US Treasury’s general account. The US Treasury issues treasury securities in the amount of $250 billion to restore this spending to balance. The US Treasury, of course, now owes interest on those treasury securities as they come due (3 months to 30 years), which they pay for by issuing more treasury securities once a year after they calculate the interest needed.
QE, when it involves treasury securities, is the Fed buying treasury securities on the open market. It is not allowed to buy them at auction. So if Duke University decided to cash in its 10-year $10 million treasury note before maturity, it would go to one of the 12-20 dealers authorized to sell them. Duke would have no idea that the Fed was buying. The Fed would purchase it and now the Fed would get the interest income that Duke would otherwise get on that 10-year note. Here’s the rub. It wasn’t Harvard buying the note. It wasn’t Nestle, the State of Georgia, or Bill Gates’ trust fund buying the note. It was the Fed. The Fed gets the interest income, which it sticks in its checking (reserves) account. Also, from the Fed’s POV, it was an asset swap from savings (securities) to checking (reserves), like you cashing in a CD. Because the Fed is getting the interest income, that money has now been removed from the economy. Why? Because the Fed is required by law since 1947 to return all net profits to the US Treasury every year. So Duke doesn’t have that interest income to pay for scholarships. Neither does Harvard. The State of Georgia doesn’t have that interest income to pay for roads. Bill Gates wouldn’t have that interest income to buy malaria medicine. The interest income, this real money, is removed from the economy because the Fed bought the treasury security. Last year the Fed returned nearly $100 billion to the US Treasury, destroying its existence in the process. It’s basically a tax on the economy. So why are they doing this? Because Bernanke thought the excess reserves in the banks’ checking accounts at the Fed would cause them to loan money to the real economy, and it was about the only thing he could dream up in light of the utter failure and abdication of responsibility of the US Congress to enact fiscal policy. The complete abject failure of Congress to do its job as the only legal entity that can authorize spending and jumpstart this economy because they are too busy occupying themselves with inconsequentials, and not fixing the mess they created over the last 15 years.

Policycritic
February 7, 2014 9:06 pm

OK, One more because I owe Eric an answer on the things we differ on.

eric1skeptic says:
February 7, 2014 at 6:40 pm
If the banks are incentivized to do speculate in PM’s then that is what they will do. It doesn’t matter whether you think it is criminal or should be regulated or not, they will find a way to do it.

Only since 1999 when they destroyed the common people’s protection of Glass-Steagall, which they should restore. Before that there were separate investment banks that used their own money at the casino, not the public’s. And they didn’t have access to the Federal Reserve as a lender of last resort. This is like me waltzing into the Sports Book at the Bellagio and betting with the full faith and credit of the US Government behind me. I don’t even have to use my own money.

Credit should be priced properly so that money is valued properly. With a (for example) 5% rate for savers, they could loan money to small businesses at 10%, absorb risks and make adequate profit.

The only thing credit at a bank should be based on is the creditworthiness of the borrower, and that is based on income, or sufficient collateral. It shouldn’t be based on the underlying value of the financial asset because that incentivizes the lender to increase the value, oftentimes corruptly. And setting a specific saver interest rate is tantamount to a guaranteed income for their clients which banks should not be involved with. Yes, savers get a low end of the deal when borrowers get low interest rates, but we need to get the 70% of the economy that spends the most, the households, back to consuming the goods and services that they can’t afford to buy right now. They need jobs. And once they get jobs and have income for spending on durable goods like refrigerators, TVs, and air conditioners, or non-durables like travel, education, food and clothing, then business (which accounts for only 10-14% of spending) will come back.

Total rubbish. We didn’t build the middle class by printing money and having the politicians hand it out, but rather by productive capacity created by long term investment that came from a sound currency.

You have the procedure backwards. No one prints money and has the politicians hand it out. It doesn’t happen. The term ‘printing money’ is an artifact of the gold-standard days when you printed money against your pile of gold. The US Treasury creates interest-free real money out of thin air on the authorization of Congress with a keystroke. That’s reality. The politicians—our congressmen—appropriate spending in the economy through Congressional appropriation bills: roads, bridges, airports, Hoover Dam, education, telecommunications infrastructure, scientific research, Space Program, et cetera, et cetera. Unless the government spends first, there is no new money possible in the economy (the old money just circulates between spenders and savers). Where else is it going to come from? Unless you want to risk counterfeiting. Only the US government can create new money. I’m talking from a macroeconomic POV.

Those countries were destroyed by socialism not by tight money

They are being destroyed by tight money. No sales, no jobs. No jobs, no income. No income, no spending. No spending, no sales. Repeat.
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Yeah, I agree that the Ukrainians are nuts to want to join the EU. And look who is pushing them to do it. Someone is salivating after their oil resources.

Carla
February 8, 2014 9:43 am

What might make someone think that Earth’s magnetic field would twist up. Which we now know isn’t the case on Earth at least but that’s not the point.
Earth’s magnetic equator. Earth’s magnetic dip equator is what made me think that there is a twisting up.
After learning that there were seen over 7000 electric double layers in a one minute interval inside Earth’s radiation belt, to me this was saying that this is a current sheet.
The dent at the magnetic dip equator, radiation belts containing current sheet like structure are in close proximity to Earth’s surface
and the warp produced (dip) made me think that the magnetic field was twisting up.
And in the case of Saturn’s current sheet and warp, changes in solar wind pressure affect the tilt angle.
Which makes me think that changes in the solar wind pressure affect the radiation belts and current sheet angle at Earth, which might alter the location of some primary vortex structures, which is implicated in the Saturn ref. abstract above.
For an example of large scale magnetic structure. The dent in the nose of Protostar0 another of the abstracts above, is a good example.

Carla
February 8, 2014 10:12 am

Just some further thoughts on current sheets and their interactions from solar to planetary and interstellar to solar.
Astrophysisits think that the interstellar wind, in the solar neighborhood, has changed directions in the last 40 years. How accurate are our measurements of heliospheric current sheet tilt angles at 10-100 AU…?

Carla
February 8, 2014 10:15 am

How is this relevant to the solar cycle..
lots of little bipolar regions on the solar disk with a “strangley tilt angle,” and spots not forming.

February 8, 2014 10:18 am

Carla says:
February 8, 2014 at 9:43 am
Which makes me think that changes in the solar wind pressure affect the radiation belts and current sheet angle at Earth, which might alter the location of some primary vortex structures, which is implicated in the Saturn ref. abstract above.
You are not precise. What does ‘at the Earth’ mean? on the surface? 100,000 miles out in the magnetosphere? or where? The changes way out in the magnetosphere do not alter the surface polar vortex and the situation cannot be compared to conditions at Saturn. Now all of this ‘discussion’ could have been avoided right up front by you recognizing this.

February 8, 2014 10:20 am

Carla says:
February 8, 2014 at 10:15 am
How is this relevant to the solar cycle..
lots of little bipolar regions on the solar disk with a “strange tilt angle,” and spots not forming.

The Sun is a messy place…

February 8, 2014 10:26 am

Carla says:
February 8, 2014 at 10:12 am
Astrophycisits think that the interstellar wind, in the solar neighborhood, has changed directions in the last 40 years. How accurate are our measurements of heliospheric current sheet tilt angles at 10-100 AU…?
This is favorite misconception of you that those two fields are related in some way. They are not. The solar wind is supersonic and magnetic information about the outside cannot travel upstream. You may also have misunderstood the interstellar data [link please – no abstract needed]. Our measurements of the HCS latitudinal extent are good, and the HCS is not ’tilted’ in any meaning of that word.

Carla
February 8, 2014 10:40 am

Coincidently .. was there a shift of tilt angle in the radiation belts.. at the same time as the strong perturbation in Earth’s polar motion Dec. 10 2013.. which coincidently correspondes with some strong polar air shifting,descending..
http://hpiers.obspm.fr/eop-pc/products/combined/realtime/realtimeplot.php?laps=60%20&eop=1&graphe=12&dimx=600&dimy=600&tver=0
that’s quite a jerk..

February 8, 2014 10:46 am

Carla says:
February 8, 2014 at 10:40 am
Coincidently .. was there a shift of tilt angle in the radiation belts.. at the same time as the strong perturbation in Earth’s polar motion Dec. 10 2013.. which coincidently corresponds with some strong polar air shifting,descending..
‘coincidence’ is the operative word.

Carla
February 8, 2014 12:10 pm

Just so happens ALL of us need to rethink our perception of the so called “ballerina skirt,” adaptation of the heliospheric current sheet..
And yes Dr. S., another abstract.. another stamp without and article in my stamp collection. And it’s a 2014 stamp woo woo woo…
EVIDENCE FOR TWO SEPARATE HELIOSPHERIC CURRENT SHEETS OF CYLINDRICAL SHAPE DURING MID-2012
Y.-M. Wang et al.
2014 ApJ 780 103 doi:10.1088/0004-637X/780/1/103
During the reversal of the Sun’s polar fields at sunspot maximum, outward extrapolations of magnetograph measurements often predict the presence of two or more current sheets extending into the interplanetary medium, instead of the single heliospheric current sheet (HCS) that forms the basis of the standard “ballerina skirt” picture. By comparing potential-field source-surface models of the coronal streamer belt with white-light coronagraph observations, we deduce that the HCS was split into two distinct structures with circular cross sections during mid-2012. These cylindrical current sheets were centered near the heliographic equator and separated in longitude by roughly 180°; a corresponding four-sector polarity pattern was observed at Earth. Each cylinder enclosed a negative-polarity coronal hole that was identifiable in extreme ultraviolet images and gave rise to a high-speed stream. The two current sheet systems are shown to be a result of the dominance of the Sun’s nonaxisymmetric quadrupole component, as the axial dipole field was undergoing its reversal during solar cycle 24.
And there is that “hourglass” structure again like we see in Protostar0..

February 8, 2014 12:24 pm

Carla says:
February 8, 2014 at 12:10 pm
Just so happens ALL of us need to rethink our perception of the so called “ballerina skirt,” adaptation of the heliospheric current sheet..
Nonsense, only those few misguided souls who believe in that silly over-simplification. If you watch this animation http://www.leif.org/research/WSO-SS.gif of the current sheet neutral line on the source surface you will see many examples of such disconnected cylindrical magnetic tubes. This has been known and understood for decades and is not special or unusual and has nothing to do with your ‘Protostar0’