Josh writes in with a new cartoon.
This is a spoof on the xkcd.com/1321/ cartoon that was doing the Twitter rounds the other day.
First, the XKCD cartoon on global warming:
![cold[1]](http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/cold1.png?quality=75)
Now, here’s Josh’s spoof of it:
Josh writes in with a new cartoon.
This is a spoof on the xkcd.com/1321/ cartoon that was doing the Twitter rounds the other day.
First, the XKCD cartoon on global warming:
Now, here’s Josh’s spoof of it:
I love the way history always starts around 1970 whenever we are discussing global warming.
Brilliant.
When I saw XKCD I was so disappointed because he didn’t acknowledge the actual temperature records.
worse, he claimed to have them. But he didn’t.
Still like his take on Correlation though.
What’s the source for the HS “was a mistake” claim?
Mark W, be fair, sometimes it starts in 1979 when Arctic Sea Ice was at all-time satellite era high.
omnologos , that was after the XKCD cartoon came out. It was the House of Commons DECC committee on AR5.
Three leading UK alarmist scientists were asked about errors in AR3 and the answer was “Mistakes were made”.
Check out the videos that are linked on the comments of the live coverage and the article that reports on Guido – both on WUWT,
Chuck L says:
“Mark W, be fair, sometimes it starts in 1979 when Arctic Sea Ice was at all-time satellite era high”
…and scientists were panicking about Global Cooling because the ice was increasing at an “unprecedented rate”
Don’t forget that part
For the spoof to be complete, it should have some interesting mouseover text.
Unfrozen Caveman beat me to it. By habit I went for the mouseover and it wasn’t there.
I’d say his own cartoon made his interlocutor’s point for him: used to be a handful of days below zero every year. Then for a while there weren’t. Now there are again.
So much for global warming.
@Josh:
Much as I love your political cartoons, XKCD is a geek cartoon and one of the greatest ever. Your stuff really falls flat when compared to true wit, such as found in your target. Randall has said so many witty things, maybe he now thinks wit can substitute for research. It is difficult to embarrass such people if they don’t agree to it.
I don’t think anybody here was making the “St. Louis is cold this winter” argument. What I recall are a few comments pointing out that CONUS has had declining temperatures for the past ten years. (Maybe there’s a cartoon in that.)
I expected this from the cartoon. While it is witty, it is very much a quasi-elitest cartoon written by someone who knows (and wears on his arm) how smart he is. Once I knew my boss, who is a good boss but an admitted filthy hippy, started quoting them, my taste for the cartoon soured. After he started using this cartoon in his casual mentions of how a cold day proved global warming, I decided to politely keep my mouth shut, plug-in the headphone, and stick to my work.
JDN says:
February 2, 2014 at 2:34 pm
@Josh:
Much as I love your political cartoons, XKCD is a geek cartoon and one of the greatest ever. Your stuff really falls flat when compared to true wit, such as found in your target. Randall has said so many witty things, maybe he now thinks wit can substitute for research. It is difficult to embarrass such people if they don’t agree to it.
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XKCD is witty? That’s news to me. I don’t mind some of their cartoons. But XKCD is wrong so often that I wouldn’t be putting it up on a pedestal. It’s mostly a circle jerk for like minded people.
Someone please tell me if I’m doing a mistake here.
Using the SkepSci temp trend calculator, default settings of 12 month moving average and °C/decade units, and not fussing too fine (1/4 year steps), GISTEMP land+ocean yields 0.106 +/- 0.108 from 1995.75 to 2014, so that’s at least 18.25 years without provable warming, amount is still below uncertainty.
(Note: Elsewhere I posted yesterday it was 0.106 +/- 0.107 from 1996.75 to 2014, 17.25 years, but I just double-checked and now it says as above.)
NOAA land+ocean yields 0.088 +/- 0.095 from 1994.75 to 2014, thus at least 19.25 years.
HADCRUT4 land+ocean yields 0.095 +/- 0.098 from 1994.75 to 2014, thus also at least 19.25 years.
Satellite records, RSS yields 0.118 +/- 0.120 from 1989.5 to 2014, thus over 24.5 years without provable global warming.
UAH yields 0.152 +/- 0.152 from 1993.5 to 2014, so 20.5 years where technically there might have absolutely no warming at all.
So the “17 year plateau” is only close for GISTEMP, on average “The Pause” has been at least 20.35 years, just over two decades with no provable warming.
Is that correct, or is that SkepSci tool not working right? Tell me what you think.
“You’re from St Louis, right?” There’s a phrase that could be used to death. Here goes:
You’re from St Louis, right? On average, the Thames used to freeze about every year and people would hold so-called Frost Fairs on it. It was an annual tradition. But we haven’t had a year like that since the early 1800s.
You’re from St Louis, right? From the late 60s through the early 70s the alarm of the day was Global Cooling. There are many documented articles on the phenomenon. But we haven’t had a Time Magazine article like it since 1974.
kadaka (KD Knoebel):
At February 2, 2014 at 2:52 pm you ask
Sorry, but that is not correct.
You cannot average the averages: it is meaningless, especially when the different estimates use different methods.
What you can do is state the maximum and minimum estimates to present a range.
So you can say something like
All the estimates of global average surface temperature anomaly (GASTA) indicate there is no trend of warming or cooling which is discernibly different from zero at 95% confidence for at least 17 years, and RSS says 24.5 years.
Richard
Yet another skewer from Josh. Well done.
very funny. however, it can’t beat this! one taxpayer-funded CAGW loony down, thousands to go:
3 Feb: Sydney Morning Herald, Australia: Michael Mazengarb: Why I quit climate’s dark art
If you are a public servant and passionately disagree with government policies, and you believe it no longer respects the “advice that is frank, honest, timely and based on the best available evidence”, then quit.
As the story goes, in the world of Harry Potter, a magical quill records the names of newborn wizards and witches who are destined to study magic.
I’ve occasionally joked that such a quill exists in Canberra, which records the name of every child born and the government department for which they are destined to work when they reach 21.
The fact the acronym of the agency I ended up being employed by – Office of the Renewable Energy Regulator – was pronounced the same way as Harry Potter’s eventual profession (a badass Dark Arts fighting ”Auror”), helped me to perpetuate this idea in my head. I also have a scar on my forehead from a dramatic childhood incident with a postal van. So, I’m basically the lame Australian Public Service version of Harry Potter.
Why am I telling this story of mostly nonsense?…
I enjoyed working in the public service, as it felt like I was making a real difference, and I worked with some amazingly intelligent and passionate people.
However, the party couldn’t last forever and, inevitably, we had a change of government.
The problem for me, and for climate and energy policy, was this change of leadership was only ever going to be catastrophic for the environment. We went from a government that understood and acknowledged the need to limit Australia’s contribution to climate change to one dominated by climate change sceptics***…
You can avoid the need for a self-inflicted Imperius Curse by seeking to instigate the change you want to see, by doing so outside of the public service.
And that’s why I quit.
(Michael Mazengarb is an energy market analyst and until last week worked for a federal government agency responsible for major climate change and renewable energy programs)
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/why-i-quit-climates-dark-art-20140202-31v2o.html
***if only!
“It IS too cold.”
That is the take away line.
Given the choice, people prefer warmer to colder temperatures.
pat says (February 2, 2014 at 3:14 pm): “one taxpayer-funded CAGW loony down, thousands to go:”
Don’t let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya, Michael! 🙂
@Kadaka and @richard. I believe we should enhance their own arguments and state: “The ensemble mean of GISS/NOAA/HADRUT4/UAH and RSS implies that there has been no global warming for 20.35 years.” Let them blubber about that the ensemble would be incorrect and then make them acknowledge that for the IPCC ensemble mean of models is inappropriate at best and downright fraud from scientists with any math skills.
@ur momisugly richardscourtney on February 2, 2014 at 3:07 pm:
Thank you, Richard. I’m pretty sure the averaging of averages and mixing of methodologies is occurring during the sausage making at NOAA-NCDC which is then thrown back into the grinder with added spices for GISTEMP, but it’s certainly not a good practice. The advice on the wording is also appreciated.
So over 18 years on the low end without provable global warming, and certain (C)AGW-pushers are saying we shouldn’t discount their projections due to the only 12 year old pause in warming? The dissonance is deafening.
David, UK~ Upon an argument with someone who claimed humans were responsible for the lack of Frost Fairs, I had found two times when the Thames Has frozen over recently- if I recall rightly, 1945(?), and 1963.
“Much as I love your political cartoons, XKCD is a geek cartoon and one of the greatest ever.”
Really? The weather network loves this stuff but I see it more like a less sophisticated version of the kind of material Gary Trudeau draws and writes; about as subtle as a forging hammer.