Damon Linker writes at THE WEEK:
Is National Review doomed?
The conservative movement’s leading magazine faces a lawsuit that could bring it to its knees.
This part made me laugh:
The ideological descendants of the Birchers have since taken their revenge. Today they are the conservative movement’s most passionate supporters and foot soldiers. But they demand a steady diet of red meat, and National Review now exists in part to provide it.
Really? John Birchers?
Here’s a somewhat less volatile point of his argument, but still equally funny:
‘In July, Judge Natalia Combs Greene rejected a motion to dismiss the suit. The defendants appealed, and last week D.C. Superior Court Judge Frederick Weisberg rejected the motion again, opening the door for the discovery phase of the lawsuit to begin’
I guess he didn’t do much research into that fiasco and judge Natalia Combs Greene to see the whole story of how she reversed the plaintiff and the defendant in her ruling, which was later nullified by a competent judge.
Let’s say for the sake of entertainment purposes that Mann does win the lawsuit, how will he prove damages? Given Mann’s own propensity for self promotion, vitriol, and foot-in-mouth moments, IMHO Mann does more damage to his own reputation than anyone else. If Mann winning that lawsuit that were to happen, it would probably be a symbolic damages award, like $1. If the judge really wanted to send a message about frivolous lawsuits from climate scientists, he could make it 97 cents.
Read it all here: http://theweek.com//article/index/255756/is-national-review-doomed
But, the funniest part of it all, is the writer himself, Damon Linker, who could be a every-Mann climate scientist clone.
make that closer to 2 mins 30 secs
Dr. Evil and Minnie Me
When you are bereft of ideas, you slander and slur. I doubt he has had an original thought since he opened his mouth after the doctor smacked his bottom.
dbstealey says:
January 30, 2014 at 3:52 pm
Pat Frank,
Here is Mann’s “censored” file. No wonder he didn’t want it seen!
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Martin says:
“…William F. Buckley, Jr. basically threw John Birch out of the modern conservative movement…”
John Birch was KIA in Korea, IIRC, so he could not have been ‘thrown out’ of any organization.
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No, I did not say that, it was Wayne that said it. I merely quoted what Wayne said:
Wayne says:
January 30, 2014 at 3:13 pm
“…William F. Buckley, Jr. basically threw John Birch out of the modern conservative movement way back in 1962…”
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daveburton – refering to Ms
great example of the kind of nuttiness….medical quackery.. [appeals to ridicule, etc]
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No – what M. Simon said is correct / true / backed up by 100s of peer reviewed studies.
Search pubmed for the evidence.
sorry – should have been “DaveBurton, re: M Simon’s comment
M Simon was correct / backed up by peer-reviewed studies / not opinion; not Vioxx quackery.
daveburton says:
January 30, 2014 at 4:35 pm
Dear God only knows how I miss Wm F. Buckley, Jr! This is a great example of the kind of nuttiness that he kept tamped down at the conservative & libertarian ends of the political spectrum. He was actually sympathetic to pot decriminalization,
But so much less was known about the endocannabinoid system when he was writing. We know so much more now. You might like to search “NIH cannabis cancer” for the latest – from the US Government. Crackpot indeed.
Or maybe you might like to hear about it from the discoverer of THC. Dr. Raphael Mechoulam of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. He starts about one minute into this video: http://youtu.be/oUkl0zIl72c the title of the video is Dr. Raphael Mechoulam discusses medical cannabis: Cancer Cure the mention of cancer is only a few seconds.
Here is something on how it works by biochemist Dennis Hill including the biological pathways:
http://rockford-for-safe-access.blogspot.com/2014/01/how-cannabis-cures-cancer.html
So yeah. It is total quackery – if you are ignorant of the science.
You know – we think of the CAGW boys as promoting bad science. And the population going along out of ignorance. Pot (heh) meet kettle.
BTW Buckley was also against cocaine prohibition. He frequently interviewed Michael Gazzaniga on the issue.
Khwarizmi says:
January 30, 2014 at 6:01 pm
Thanks! for helping dispel the ignorance – one comment at a time.
Martin says:
“No, I did not say that, it was Wayne that said it…”
My sincere apologies. I did not read the comments as closely as I should have.
Yeah, Birchers. The Koch’s daddy, Fred, was one of the founders.
REPLY: John Sully, I suppose that gives you just one more justification to give in to the irrational hate of the Koch espoused by Mann and other warmners, eh? It suits you. – Anthony
I would miss NR about as much as I miss TWC on Direct TV (Weather Nation is still going strong, has 24/7 Weather, not TruTV rejects, Antropogenic Global We’re Destroying The Planet nonsense and an occasional weather update).
That said, it would be unjust for them to be brought down by Mann instead of their own crony, corporatist, moderate irrelevance.
M Simon quotes approvingly a bunch of protectionist nutjobs, and then calls other people socialists.
Well. I lol’d.
Are they hatching these guys somewhere. I receive NRONLINE and consider it a valuable resource. Consider giving them a hand if you agree with that. Even if I did not read the magazine I would help them against the loathsome Mann.
This thing is a zero sum game in many ways so just avoiding the -1 because we didn’t fight hard enough is worth it to me.
The obituaries are quite premature. This is so far from over, and is not at all likely to turn out as the AGW hypesters wish.
Buckley pushed out the John Birchers. John Birch died long before.
Let us not let some Manniac ignoramus infect us as well.
Besides, that was “Wayne” and not “wayne”.
It may be a good time to change my too-simple login name to prevent these name collisions.
Well, I kinda thought that Mann would NOT like for the judge to order discovery, what with his opposition to the FOIA requests. Now he will have to comply.
Far from being an “effete metro-sexual”, Steyn is a no-holds-barred polemicist and a fierce advocate for free speech, and for personal and economic liberty. He broke the back of a suit brought against him and Macleans magazine by the Canadian Islamic Congress, which claimed they had violated a British Columbia hate speech law. Yes, he likes show tunes, and is a musical historian as well. He’s also one of the wittiest writers around. Mess with him at your peril.
Mann, OTOH, is a public figure. As such, the American law of libel (since NY Times V. Sullivan) requires that he prove Steyn acted with actual malice.. “The actual malice standard requires that the plaintiff in a defamation or libel case prove that the publisher of the statement in question knew that the statement was false or acted in reckless disregard of its truth or falsity. Because of the extremely high burden of proof on the plaintiff, and the difficulty of proving the defendant’s knowledge and intentions, such cases—when they involve public figures—rarely prevail.” (Wikipedia).
Since Mann will be subject to discovery regarding the “truth” of the Hockey Stick, he’s going to have to reveal his data and methods in order to show that their purported results are not “fraudulent”. Up until now he has been loath to do so.
The real cost to the National Review is the lawyer fees, not the damages.
wayne,
I give up…
CodeTech said at 3:02 pm:
Me too, My digestion of the facts, and what gets presented as facts, goes a long way toward determining who gets my vote. Local gets priority, statewide becomes more difficult because the money involved goes up, With Federal elections I’ve taken to writing in my brother-in-law who (despite being ineligible because he was born in Albania) would do a better job than anyone on the ballot in recent years.
Give me a valid third party and I’ll consider it.
@Just Steve, and others –
I have a goatee (and mustache) and I’m as bald as the cue ball on a pool table.
I never had them until seven years ago when I was diagnosed with leukemia and had to have chemotherapy. The only hair I didn’t lose was my goatee and mustache – so I’ve kept them, as my battle flags as I still fight this disease and its aftereffects.
I do NOT, however, look anything like the Womann-named-Sue, who obviously continues to be up to her old tricks.
And I have to ask, when will we ever really see the collapse of AGW, in practical terms? Not as long as the serpent inhabits the White House, methinks – and unfortunately he’ll be able to do a lot of damage before he leaves, to both science and the US’s economy and well-being.
dbstealey says @ur momisugly 7:03 pm:
I give up…
Smokey wouldn’t have given up so easily.
Think I might need to grow myself a bearg.
Amusingly, the opening of the Soviet archives proved the Birchers were substantially correct. Oops!