9.30am AEDT Saturday 04 January 2014
Aurora Australis released from tasking in Antarctica
Xue Long’s attempt to manoeuvre through the ice early this morning was unsuccessful. Xue Long has confirmed to the Australian Maritime Safety Authority (AMSA) it is beset by ice.
The Master of Xue Long has confirmed to AMSA that the ship is safe, it is not in distress and does not require assistance at this time. There is no immediate danger to personnel on board the Xue Long. The Xue Long has advised AMSA it has food supplies for several weeks. The Aurora Australis was placed on standby by AMSA’s Rescue Coordination Centre Australia (RCC Australia) last night to remain in open water in the area as a precautionary measure.
The Masters of both Akademik Shokalskiy and Xue Long agree that further assistance from Aurora Australis is no longer required and they will be able to provide mutual support to each other. The Aurora Australis has been released from search and rescue tasking by RCC Australia early this morning and continues to make its passage to the Casey base to complete a resupply. It will then continue to Hobart. RCC Australia will maintain regular contact with the Xue Long and Akademik Shokalskiy.
Turnery’s turkeys?
Eugene WR Gallun
Tom J
hahahahaha == loved it —
Eugene WR GAllun
AMSA has requested the US Coast Guard’s Polar Star icebreaker to assist vessels in Antarctica. bit.ly/1f3Cn3N
Just on Twitter. US now involved
Steve (Paris) says:
Turney in the guardian
“After sleepless nights thinking about keeping everyone safe, it is a relief to know everyone is on board the Aurora and well.”
So the Russian crew don’t count as ‘everyone’. Probably forgotten they even exist.
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Yes , I noted that too.
The Guardian did a similar think a few days ago and I posted a comment. They quickly added a line about the russians to the text.
What these inadvertent slips reveals about the way they think is rather ugly.
A climate scientice”s wife asked him to go to the store and buy a loaf of bread,and if they have eggs get a dozen. He comes back with twelve loaves of bread..
sunnygirlca says January 4, 2014 at 11:57 am
They’ll be about 7 days getting to Commonwealth Bay.
Here’s the full AMSA announcement, in PDF.
artwest –
very odd indeed: when i linked to the turney/randerson guardian piece, it opened with comments from under “Staff replies” which had a randerson response to each comment. it was so strange i actually looked further & noticed the various comment options for the first time ever – All comments, Staff replies & Guardian picks!
at the moment, when u click on Guardian picks, u get:
These comments have been chosen by Guardian staff because they contribute to the debate.
No comments have been picked yet.
under Staff replies, u only get about 22 comments, every second one a randerson.
under All comments, u get 115 comments.
from the Randerson responses:
Randerson: Thanks for the comment. I can’t speak for the BBC, but the Guardian has two people on the boat – a science correspondent (Alok Jha) and a videographer/photographer (Laurence Topham). They are there to report on the science that is being done and on the expedition aspect of the voyage. The media is often (rightly) criticised for representing science as a series of ‘eureka moments’ and not showing the reality of science being done in the field. This was an opportunity to do that in a visually interesting location/environment.
http://www.theguardian.com/science/antarctica-live/2014/jan/04/antarctic-expedition-was-worth-it-chris-turney
this entire Turney piece/Randerson response is obviously yet another attempt at damage control. the MSM have not even informed the public of the CAGW-biased intentions of this expedition, which can be found on the Spirit of Mawson website, & in interviews done prior to the trip, etc etc.
Spirit of Mawson: THE SCIENCE CASE
The little explored subantarctic islands in the Southern Ocean have experienced some of the most significant warming…
We are going south to:
1. gain new insights into the circulation of the Southern Ocean and its impact on the global carbon cycle…
http://www.spiritofmawson.com/the-science-case/
11 Sept: ABC PM: UNSW organises Antarctic trek to celebrate centenary of Mawson expedition
MARK COLVIN: One of the expedition leaders is climate change specialist Professor Chris Turney.
CHRIS TURNEY: There’s a number of things we’re hoping to do, and we’re going to start the science program as soon as we head south. This is very much not just for pure science research program: we’re taking the public with us, berths are for sale.
MARK COLVIN: It’s a privately funded expedition.
CHRIS TURNEY: Privately funded expedition, so we’ve just secured an ice-strengthened vessel, something called the Shikowski (phonetic), which is up in Vladivostok at the moment heading down towards us very soon…
MARK COLVIN: Alright, well Australia’s just elected a government which, I think it’s fair to say, is more sceptical about global warming and certainly about what to do about it. Do you think they’ll be listening to you when we get back?
CHRIS TURNEY: I think to be perfectly honest, that in the first instance, we’re just trying to get people excited by the science, and rather than it being an issue where people have a gut feeling about whether they believe in climate change or not, it’s actually getting them to be re-engaged and excited about the science.
And if politicians listen and get excited about what we’re doing, that’d be brilliant.
MARK COLVIN: And as you know, the scepticism has extended right into the science. What do you think about that?
CHRIS TURNEY: It has in the public domain somewhat. Certainly in the scientific community, it’s remarkably solid…
MARK COLVIN: But a lot of scientists feel kind of somewhat besieged at the moment because of this public scepticism.
CHRIS TURNEY: Yeah, some do certainly; those who engage a lot with the public and some individuals do struggle with that a little bit. Other people, though, I’ve met and I’ve given talks to – when you explain the science – completely understand the basic premise and at the end of the day for us, it’s so self-evident, what we see now.
MARK COLVIN: What is that?
CHRIS TURNEY: Well, the fundamental issue is if you didn’t have carbon in the atmosphere, the planet would be about minus 50 degrees centigrade, give or take – that’s what you’d have. So a little bit of carbon warms the planet, and that’s good, it’s where we’re at today – an average planet temperature of about 14, 15, degrees.
If you put more carbon in the atmosphere, you’d expect the planet to warm, and basically that’s what you see…
http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2013/s3846720.htm
it is my opinion any scientific research carried out on this trip is TAINTED precisely because of the presence, barely acknowledged in MSM coverage, of the MSM – BBC & Guardian on AS, & Fairfax on Aurora Australia, plus the presence of the Greens Senator-elect for Victoria in Australia. nothing they might try to publish will have any credibility, so they should write the trip off as a learning experience in how not to do science.
@anvilman:
No need to invent silly jokes.
OLD DATA says:
January 4, 2014 at 7:01 am
03 Leaders
24 Scientists
18 Graduate Students
05 Media
AkA 50 related to the ‘science’ experiment.
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How many Scientists etc. does it take to repair a skylight?
NOTE: See below correction to the most popular appellation for Turney and his entourage aboard the Akademik Shokalskiy.
Ship of
FoolsTools***It seems a more accurate name for Turney et al. N’est ce pas?
*** tools := academics uncritically supporting an IPCC-centric structure / process which has been reasonably demarcated as outside of science. Demarcated outside of science means it is in one of these realms: pseudo-science; religion; supernaturalism; superstition; mythology; mysticism; ideology ; etc.
John
Update, Bill.
Polar Star just spent three years being updated for the cost on the US 62 million for a service extension of 10 years. Last summer (in N. hemisphere) was spent in a shakedown cruise in/near the arctic assuring everything was operable. The effort was made to extend her usefulness out to 2023 or so.
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5:15 am Guardian Interview — Laurence Topham
God, what a pathetic little twit! Had he even the slightest understanding of what Mawson went through he never would have shown his face to an audience.
I am guessing he is suffering from a permanent hangover brought about by the 24/7 free bar the ship provided — which he left only to piss and make his self-humiliating little self-interview.
Or was it all an insider joke? Did he have his friends at the Guarudian laughing at how he could spin the harmless (I have a narrow bed) into disaster — which is what Climate Change reporting is all about. Look at me! Give me a raise! I can turn “inconvenience” into “life threatening”. See the evil of climate change — I cant have a milkshake!
This is a man who if his editors at the Guardian told him to do an article about space aliens — would claim to have found them and do a self-interview to prove it.
Climate change is to the Guardian what space aliens are to the National Enquirer.
Eugene WR Gallun
Spirit of Mawson? What an insult to his memory this bunch of middle-class bed-wetters are.
If they had encountered a REAL problem down there , they would not have lasted one hour outside.
Prof Turkey was likely intending to use this to promote his little side-line venture CarbonScape
http://carbonscape.com/#2
It’s going to take a mountain of charcoal granules to “offset” this little fiasco.
HOW MUCH ?!
Can I pay by Carboncredit Card please?
John Whitman says:
January 4, 2014 at 12:44 pm
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Thanks, John.
_Jim says:
January 4, 2014 at 11:32 am
“Grasshopper, you have much to learn on your journey, and this is not getting off to a good start.”
Ok, I missed the comment where you linked to the account of the founding of the Fed that you prefer. It offers nothing new; it just omits a description of the Jekyll island meetings. As to the efficacy of public control over the Fed; well, if you like your bubbles, you can keep your bubbles.
The BBC World Service Radio has ” passengers on a sight-sees cruise ” now in the latest AA reporting.
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Alan Robertson,
¡Por nada! {you’re welcome} : )
John
_Jim says: @ur momisugly January 4, 2014 at 11:32 am
Much OT, but Dirk started it …
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Now that is a blatant LIE if I ever heard one! – SEE: _Jim says: @ur momisugly January 4, 2014 at 8:05 am
_Jim, at least you think FDR was useless, I will agree with you there.
03 Leaders
24 Scientists
18 Graduate Students
05 Media
Isn’t there supposed to be a dippy politician in there somewhere … to show the flavor of this ‘science’ mission?
By my estimates the AA is still about 2-3 days away from Casey station in Antarctica given good sailing conditions. A couple more days could then be required to complete off-loading of Casey’s supplies and load any gear and pax for the voyage back to Australia.
Given the statement by the expedition’s medical person, Andrew Peacock, that frustration has set in to the rescued passengers, plus the report that medications were having to be flown to Casey for some passengers, I wonder if an emergency medical evacuation flight will be the next rescue request for several persons suffering anxiety, paranoia, depression and other conditions (perhaps delusions about need to undertake urgent service crucial to the national interest) amongst the “high-value assets” that comprise the expedition’s complement.
Demanding a flight from Casey to Hobart would be mighty tempting to beat 10-14 more days at sea for these CAGW-seeking legends in their own lunch-rooms.
KJ;
With any luck, the AA will offload at Casey and just before reaching port will be called back into SAR duties in the ice.
The stage is set for Act III, cue Action!
“””””……DocMartyn says:
January 3, 2014 at 6:11 pm
“Aphan
We also know that they couldn’t even afford to purchase another $8,000 Argo for the trip because the website/fund didn’t earn enough. So where did the other MILLION come from?”
1st Argo, submerged under tow and could not be used
2nd Argo cut out every 5 mins due to fuel failure and required 15 mins to restart.
Brain dead Republican Todd Palin has won the 2,031 miles Tesoro Iron Dog off-road snowmobile race across Alaska, four times……..”””””
Outstanding Doc; I always thought I was pretty good at “stream of consciousness” gobbledegook writing. Figuring out how to string completely unrelated prose elements together; leaving no evidence of a logical, or even illogical relational connection, is a challenging art form. You are a master at it, for sure.
I’ve been to Alaska; seems like I have driven over every road in the State; well all the ones connected together, sans air or water passages. There are NO roads across Alaska. So ANY race across Alaska, would, by definition, be “off-road”.
Having driven only “on-road” in Alaska, and only in the “off-snow” summer season; I would welcome being as brain dead, as ANY person, who was even allowed to enter that race.
But you really scored in disconnectivity, with that “Republican” appendation. No, I simply can’t figure the linkage for that. I wonder if it would assist me , if perhaps I were a Republican ?
On a side note, it seems to me, that Dec 21 (22) 2013, was the Winter solstice Druid priest’s vegan sunrise ceremony at Stonehenge; which coincides with the Summer solstice sun worshipper basking on Bondi Beach; denoting the point of Southern most latitude of the Sun.
Since then, the sun should have been heading North, thus shortening Antarctic days. Why would the ice start melting now, rather than re-freezing ??