Quote of the Week: 'We’ve got to get rid of all this green crap.'

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An about-face of epic proportions. You’ll never guess who said this:

David Cameron has ordered ministers to ditch the ‘green crap’ blamed for driving up energy bills and making business uncompetitive, it is claimed. The Prime Minister, who once pledged to lead the ‘greenest government ever’, has publicly promised to ‘roll back’ green taxes, which add more than £110 a year to average fuel bills.

But a senior Tory source said Mr Cameron’s message in private is far blunter. The source said: ‘He’s telling everyone, “We’ve got to get rid of all this green crap.” He’s absolutely focused on it.’ Tory high command has also privately abandoned Mr Cameron’s pre-election mantra ‘vote blue, go green’. ‘It’s vote blue, get real, now – and woe betide anyone who doesn’t get the memo,’ the source said. Downing Street denied the claims and said: “We do not recognise this at all.”-–Daily Mail, 21 November 2013

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No. 10 is tellingly refusing to deny the report in today’s Sun that David Cameron has ordered aides to “get rid of all the green crap”. A Downing Street spokesman merely stated that “we do not recognise this at all” (a classic non-denial denial). In reference to the environmental levies imposed on fuel bills, a Tory source earlier claimed of Cameron: “He’s telling everyone, ‘We’ve got to get rid of all this green crap.’ He’s absolutely focused on it.” The source added: “It’s vote blue, get real, now – and woe betide anyone who doesn’t get the memo.” –George Eaton, New Statesman, 21 November 2013

h/t to Dr. Benny Peiser of The GWPF

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November 21, 2013 12:39 pm

Actions speak louder than words. If he starts saying, “If you elect my party again…”, I’d call it hype. He’s in power now, he can prove something now – not after the next election. Pulling out of the EU would be a good start.

Man Bearpig
November 21, 2013 12:41 pm

At last a prime minister that has seen the world of green crap. Welcome to the real world Mr Cameron. You will get my vote if you follow through, at the moment UKIP are number one on my list.

November 21, 2013 12:43 pm

So now Dodgy Dave can soothe the furrowed brows of those who care about fuel poverty while denying he ever said such a thing – calm down greenies he’s one of you too.
Look, this is spin. The words of Davis Cameron mean nothing. He promised a referendum on EU membership before the last election but now he has re-promised for after the next one.
Look at what he does. Is Ed Davey still the UK’s environment minister?
Yes.
So this is just a spinmeister’s deception.

November 21, 2013 12:45 pm

Blimy, Man Bearpig.
I thought my support for Ed Miliband was overly compromising.
But at least I didn’t fall for any dog-whistle as feeble as this.

Admin
November 21, 2013 12:51 pm

Dave’s done this before – in the last election he fooled a lot of right wing voters by getting his network to tell them he had a “secret agenda”, that all the eco-freakery and soft liberalism was just for show, to woo the centrist voters. Of course, this all turned out to be a fib.

clipe
November 21, 2013 1:01 pm
Larry Butler
November 21, 2013 1:12 pm

Hurray! I’ve already gone out to the boiler room and added 4 shovels of soft bituminous to the boiler. We’ll have to leave all the lights on and run the hot water all night so the overpressure valve wooshing doesn’t keep the neighbors up all night…(c;]

Dung
November 21, 2013 1:53 pm

Ed Davey IS the green crap!

cgh
November 21, 2013 1:55 pm

Some of you have referred to UKIP. You’re absolutely right. Current polls show they’re at 17% of British voters, up more than 4 per cent in less than a month. The party’s showing in the municipal elections was extremely strong, taking a load of seats away from Tories even in traditional strongholds. At 17%, UKIP thus constitutes an existential threat to the Conservatives.
Think it can’t happen? In less than five years, the Progressive Conservatives in Canada in two elections went from more than 200 seats in 1987 to two in 1992. The party itself finally disapeared less than 10 years later when it was taken over by Reform to become the Conservative Party of Canada, a different animal entirely.
Of course Cameron is worried. His entire base is melting away underneath him, so it’s no surprise that stuff like this gets leaked. It’s standard procedure in politics. The only question is are the voters silly enough to believe him, again, while idiots like Ed Davey are still holding down the key government posts.
As for the voters, the issue becomes very simple. Why vote for faux Conservatives when you can vote for the real thing? Somewhere, Nigel Farage is laughing.

Eliza
November 21, 2013 1:56 pm

Me thinks people are going to get so so angry they will want to lynch anybody who mentions AGW in a year or so. It will become a worldwide phenomenom ALL of Europe ALL USA Russia etc
http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/9078561/the-real-energy-scandal/
If I was anyway involved in the opening scandal I would GET OUT NOW. LOL

November 21, 2013 2:43 pm

“Now what do we do with all of these worthless windmills?”
‘Affordable housing’ for ‘Romanian immigrants’?
I’ll get my coat.,..

Richard M
November 21, 2013 2:45 pm

I suspect this is testing the waters. Throw it out there and see what the reaction is. If it is positive then something real might happen. If it is negative then he never said it.

Mr Green Genes
November 21, 2013 3:10 pm

Cameron is a proven liar so there is unlikely to be any truth in this.
Tragically, the leader of the opposition, Milliband, is at least as bad. He is, as I will never tire of reminding people, the architect of the most expensive piece of legislation ever to pass into law in the UK – the Climate Change Act, which all but five MPs supported.

November 21, 2013 3:21 pm

Mr Green Genes says at November 21, 2013 at 3:10 pm..
True Ed Miliband pushed through a piece of legislation that got near unanimous support from the House of Commons.
But does that mean he is committed to the cause? If he thought a tough fight then yeah, he is obviously a zealot. But if he didn’t.
He took an easy win so he may well be a cynical career politician looking for an achievement for the record books.
And we know Ed is a career politician. So why tie him to being “Hug a Husky 2”?
Give him the chance and he will cynically charge at the windmills… if he think the votes are there.
Don’t force him to commit to the Green.

Jimbo
November 21, 2013 3:28 pm

How about ‘We’ve got to get rid of the Medieval Warm Period’? An Mann managed it for a while.

Jimbo
November 21, 2013 3:37 pm

David Cameron is smacking head first with reality. High energy bills are a vote loser. Dead Conservative voters are vote losers too.

2013 Headlines
[UK] “

Excess winter mortality

2012 to 2013″
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/excess-winter-mortality-2012-to-2013

Energy bills: As prices rise for winter

, is it really worth switching and where are the best fixed rate deals?”
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-1607475/Energy-bills-As-prices-rise-winter-really-worth-switching-best-fixed-rate-deals.html

US’s cheap energy pricing out UK industry

America’s shale gas boom allows it to offer low energy prices to power-intensive industries as

cost climbs in Europe


http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/nov/12/us-energy-shale-gas-uk-industry

Germany is seeing the light and has increased its coal use. It is not going completely to plan I think. Give it a few more years, they have to get smacked on the head a few times yet. Reality is sometimes like that.

ba
November 21, 2013 4:23 pm

Put University of East Anglia on a rigorous tuition basis.

November 21, 2013 4:27 pm

This is just another blatant attempt to steal UKIP’s clothes. Unless British people see action on the scale of what Tony Abbott has done in Australia, then it is all empty rhetoric. UKIP need to hammer home this point at every opportunity. Why wait until the elections?
There is still 18 months to the UK elections. I just hope UKIP don’t end up peaking too soon. Neil Kinnock, anyone?

Chad Wozniak
November 21, 2013 4:50 pm

Proctor –
Der Fuehrer is supporting giving away the store to third world kleptocrats, so it’s safe to assume Bloody Mess would also if he had become president..

DirkH
November 21, 2013 4:57 pm

Chris says:
November 21, 2013 at 11:15 am
“The Financial Times is as bad as The Guardian when it comes to “green power””
Financial Times Deutschland was so far out left in the end that even its host organism Hamburg rejected it. Imagine NYC run by the Khmer Rouge and you get Hamburg; and still.

Chad Wozniak
November 21, 2013 5:10 pm

Smith –
Tear the windmills down, and make the “investors” in them pay for the demolition and the restoration of the land around them,.

RoHa
November 21, 2013 5:54 pm

“Downing Street denied the claims…”
The basic principle is “never believe anything until it has been officially denied”. That looks like a pretty official denial.

November 21, 2013 7:24 pm

Arrrrrrrrhhhhhhh. Had to scream, attended one of al benedict arnold gore’s “climate reality
Gw talk. 100% propagada 0% reality. Jumped out of my chair screaming when he compared deniers to
People who denied Tobacco causes cancer. Never mentioned the reality that gore owned a tobacco farm or the fact that part of his business is wind farm efficiency. ( I didn ‘t know this at the time ,luckily, could be writing this from a jail cell.

rogerknights
November 21, 2013 10:39 pm

jimmithe_dalek says:
November 21, 2013 at 12:21 pm
This is a story based on a Daily Mail article – never believe anything in the Daily Mail

The Daily Mail’s investigations are defended in chapter 16 of the 2nd edition of Investigative Journalism. ed. by Hugo de Burgh.

Mr Green Genes
November 22, 2013 1:26 am

M Courtney says:
November 21, 2013 at 3:21 pm

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Let’s not fall out about UK politics on a US science website!! I think we’ve established that they’re both career politicians (along with “I agree with” Nick of course) so I can easily accept their equal culpability.

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