50,000 attend rally with speech against climate agenda in Poland

From CFACT:

Not Welcome: UN climate summit in Poland greeted by 50,000 angry Poles rallying against UN

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As more than 50,000 enthusiastic Poles gathered in downtown Warsaw on Monday to celebrate National Independence Day, with millions more watching on live television, CFACT president David Rothbard was invited to the stage to deliver an impassioned address celebrating freedom and warning against the dangerous and oppressive climate agenda of the UN.

See video, CFACT warns 50,000+ against UN climate agenda:

Before what was one of the largest audiences to ever hear a speech denouncing UN global warming policies, Rothbard said he was honored to stand with the Poles in a “new battle for freedom against those who would use environmental and climate alarmism to steal away our liberties and give international bureaucrats control over our energy sources, our daily lives, our prosperity, and our national sovereignty.”

The address was carried live on national television and covered by a large number of international media outlets. It took place just as the UN was kicking off its COP19 climate conference a few kilometers away.

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Rothbard noted that at last year’s COP meeting, UN climate chief Christiana Figueres said that what the UN was undertaking is “a complete economic transformation of the world.”

“This is not good news for those who love freedom, and it is not good news for Poland,” Rothbard asserted.

“Standing next to a CFACT banner that read “No to UN Climate Hype” in Polish and surrounded by throngs who wore CFACT stickers bearing the same message in Poland’s distinctive red and white, the crowd gave hearty consent to Rothbard’s message.

He also quoted from the Book of Proverbs that “the wicked flee when no one pursues, but the righteous are bold as a lion,” noting that “the environmentalists and the bureaucrats don’t want to debate these issues because they know they are deceiving the world.”

“There hasn’t been any global warming in more than 15 years,” he noted, “and this is simply an excuse for more government oppression.”

“We stand for freedom. We stand for opportunity. We stand for our families. And we stand for a strong and prosperous future. Together let us be bold as a lion,” he concluded.

The rally took place one day after CFACT keynoted a climate policy conference in Warsaw co-sponsored by Solidarity, the Institute for Globalization, and other Polish and European NGOs. There, members of the European Parliament, along with representatives from the U.S., Italy, Sweden, Hungary, and Poland formally signed the “Warsaw Declaration” calling on the UN to discontinue work on a new treaty until a genuine “scientific consensus is reached on the phenomenon of so-called global warming.”

The UN made a big mistake choosing Poland to host its global warming treaty summit.  The Poles see right through warming propaganda. Enduring generations of socialism has left them with a deep distaste for propaganda and bureaucratic control. Polish prosperity was blocked first by war and then by ideology. Poland deserves freedom and prosperity and knows it can’t move forward without energy. The brave Poles are not about to cede their sovereignty to UN control.

Polish feelings about the UN climate treaty echo what Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher told the Soviet Union. “Let Poland be Poland!”

CFACT, which has been an officially recognized NGO at UN conferences for nearly two decades, will be in Warsaw throughout the two weeks of COP 19. Its delegation will be headlined by Apollo VII astronaut Col. Walter Cunningham who is highly critical of UN climate science.

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Robin Pittwood

Excellent work CFACT.

GlynnMhor

Slowly but surely the tide of public opinion is turning against the fear mongery of the CAGW movement, and particularly against the panic-stricken carbon strangulation economic policies that are hurting so many.

Do we have independent verification for this? Where the people out there for something else, to which somebody attached climate skepticism, a topic maybe of minimal interest to the mass of people in the square?
I am afraid we need to be more skeptical about this kind of claims than any of Gore’s or Romm’s.

Were not Where…oops

George Lawson

I lookm forward to the coverage of the rally on the BBC and other ‘unbiased’ media outlets.

Felix

“Later in the afternoon, nationalists and right wing groups held an ‘Independence March’. Organisers expected 50,000 to attend, and the demonstration was heavily policed after violence erupted for the last two years in Warsaw”
. – See more at: http://www.thenews.pl/1/9/Artykul/152550,Poland-celebrates-Independence-Day#sthash.0Q6pWul5.dpuf

TImothy Sorenson

Cheer them on. Cheer again.

Felix

“Violence and hooliganism marred Poland’s celebrations of Independence Day on Monday. Right-wing and nationalist activists held what they called the “Independence March,” which started in the center of Warsaw in the afternoon. Over the next two hours the participants were involved in several violent incidents took place.
Fire was set to cars and other objects in the city, including a police booth in front of the Russian Embassy and an artwork installation (a large rainbow) at Plac Zbawiciela.
Warsaw authorities withdrew their approval of the march, but the gathering continued. Some 19 people are said to have been injured in the incidents, including 12 police officers. Seventy-two people were arrested in connection with the disturbances.”
http://www.wbj.pl/article-64270-violence-overshadows-independence-day-celebrations.html

phlogiston

Long live Poland, freedom and solidarity! This time there will be no Molotov-Ribbentrop pact – the Russians see sense on this issue also. Sadly the UK are playing for the other side this time.

GO POLAND! YAH!
This is great! This is what I’ve wanted to see for a long time! Now these are real protesters, not rent-a-mob spaced out to look like more and cameras taking angled pictures so as not to show the gaps.
I am so thrilled this was seen live on television and that its been picked up by the international media. It should be an interesting two weeks for those in the thrall of CAGW and doing it for the UN Cause.
I pray this idea spreads across Europe and the globe. Sitting back and waiting for the alarmists to tire and go away peacefully isn’t going to do a thing – people have to get out there and get their message heard.
NO to the UN.

John Lord

Great news! Having had to stomach 40 years of socialist propaganda, they can easily spot something similar coming down the track. Green is the new red!

Bruce Cobb

The UN climate agenda is a giant, freedom-killing, economy-trashing machine waging war against all of humanity. We must rage, rage against the machine.

Nick in Vancouver

The people of Poland know what totalitarianism and the rule of bureaucracy mean. Will Poland help to save Europe from itself even though Europe has always failed Poland?

pokerguy

I hope this is accurate. It’s so welcome, I’m almost afraid to believe it.

I hate to be a wet rag, but I didn’t see many people in the audience clapping, let alone cheering…Great that the message is getting out, but I don’t know how much of it actually soaked in….

pokerguy

“hate to be a wet rag, but I didn’t see many people in the audience clapping, let alone cheering
Yes, they barely seemed to know what was being said. Most of them looked puzzled.

omnologos says:
November 12, 2013 at 3:39 pm “Do we have independent verification for this? Where the people out there for something else, to which somebody attached climate skepticism…”
The first sentence says, “As more than 50,000 enthusiastic Poles gathered in downtown Warsaw on Monday to celebrate National Independence Day, with millions more watching on live television, CFACT president David Rothbard was invited to the stage to deliver an impassioned address celebrating freedom and warning against the dangerous and oppressive climate agenda of the UN.”
I think it is not more skepticism needed, but a little reading comprehension. On the subject of independence, CFACT was able to present one of the greatest threats to independence – rule by unaccountable, unelected globalist bureaucracies and unscrupulous scientists under the guise of environmentalism.

milodonharlani

Yesterday Australia! Today Poland! Tomorrow the world!
¡Ojalá!

J. Fujita

I am truly in line with the aim of CFACT but I have to agree with omnologos in his earlier post – I, too, am puzzled by the seemingly unenthusiastic response to Rothbard’s speech. Is that typical of the Poles, or were they restrained by the presence of police due to previous acts of random violence at gatherings? Or were they there primarily to celebrate their National Independence Day? I’m just looking for accuracy here. The exaggerations often put out by warmists only hurt their claims of support of the masses; I wouldn’t want to be found to be in the same boat as they.

Perhaps the title of the post should change to “50,000-strong rally hear speech about the UN’s dangerous and oppressive climate agenda”

eo

It was not a mistake for the UN in selecting Poland to host the COP and MOP of the UNFCCC and the expired Kyoto Protocol. Human social instinct calls for the host to be gracious and accommodating. A high ranking official of the host country chairs the meeting and often the highest official of the country attends one of the session. It is the duty then of the chair ( which is a high ranking official ) to resolve and try to reach a compromise to successfully attain the objective of the agenda. In return the grateful participants will name the agreement reached during the meeting after the country or the place. So we have Kyoto Protocol, Dubai agreement, etc. As the party responsible for reaching the agreement and being constantly reminded of the agreement named after one of the cities of the country it is now incumbent on the leadership of the host country not just to live up to the agreement but to lead to its successful implementation. Japan is now reluctant to go on board a new Kyoto Protocol and if the protocol was not agreed, signed and named after Kyoto, Japan it is doubtful if Japan would have ratified the protocol, lead and supported the subsequent accord, compromise, etc on the implementation of the Kyoto protocol. Like Dubai, expect Poland to be on the front line of the post Kyoto agreement. I will not be surprise if the post Kyoto Protocol will be called Montreal Protocol, Washington Protocol, Canberra Protocol as Canada, USA and Australia are now wavering on its support of the UNFCCC and would be most likely be called to host future meetings. A Washington Protocol or name any US city is big candidate for the protocol replacing the Kyoto Protocol. It would be a big Obama legacy as his successors will be forced to support and lead its implementation irregardless of the successor’s current position on climate change.

Bill Parsons

Bravely done by CFACT president David Rothbard. I say this because he’s speaking to a crowd clearly not very receptive. The chilly response doesn’t jibe with the headline and sub-head for this post. Scattered applause is covered by the overdubbed Polish national anthem.

Was looking up the relation of Poland to the fall of the Soviet (socialist) Empire and found this from this reference:
http://www.history.com/topics/fall-of-soviet-union
“The first revolution of 1989 took place in Poland, where the non-Communist trade unionists in the Solidarity movement bargained with the Communist government for freer elections in which they enjoyed great success. This, in turn, sparked peaceful revolutions across Eastern Europe. The Berlin Wall fell in November; that same month, the “velvet revolution” in Czechoslovakia overthrew that country’s Communist government. (In December, however, violence reigned: A firing squad executed Romania’s Communist dictator, Nicolae Ceaucescu, and his wife.)
This atmosphere of possibility soon enveloped the Soviet Union itself. Frustration with the bad economy combined with Gorbachev’s hands-off approach to Soviet satellites to inspire a series of independence movements in the republics on the USSR’s fringes. One by one, the Baltic states (Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia) declared their independence from Moscow. Then, in early December, the Republic of Belarus, the Russian Federation and Ukraine broke away from the USSR and created the Commonwealth of Independent States. Weeks later, they were followed by eight of the nine remaining republics. (Georgia joined two years later.) At last, the mighty Soviet Union had fallen”
Maybe the fall of the CAGW Wall will start in Poland (already in Australia).
Hey it’s a stretch, but Poland and Czechoslovakia don’t seem to like this UN catastrophic anthropogenic global warming (CAGW).

Jimbo

Poland can get a little nippy sometimes and it’s understandable why they like to keep warm – especially in winter.

Europe plunged into energy crisis as Russia cuts off gas supply via Ukraine
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1106382/Europe-plunged-energy-crisis-Russia-cuts-gas-supply-Ukraine.html
————–
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2009/01/07/uk-russia-ukraine-gas-idUKTRE4BU2V420090107

Warmists only truly wake up when there is a threat of no gas in winter. It almost happened in the UK last winter when their reserves were down to a few days. Have cake and eat it is my motto. Politicians in the UK feel they must act on climate change then refuse gas shipments. It’s easy.

Madman2001

I agree that the title is misleading. A better title might be “50,000 Poles rally for independence, hear impassioned CFACT speech against UN climate agenda”

High Treason

This is great news. Of course, the most important thing is that it gets picked up by mainstream media. May there be more such rallies in Poland to expose the UN.

omnologos says:
November 12, 2013 at 4:35 pm Perhaps the title of the post should change to “50,000-strong rally hear speech about the UN’s dangerous and oppressive climate agenda”
That would be an improvement. The video clearly says, “CFACT warns against UN climate agenda. Polish National Independence Day Rally.”
CFACT does great work and have informative email updates on their work.

Leo Morgan

Anthony, please edit the headline for accuracy. That sort of misleading spin is a significant reason why the alarmists are losing credibility- lets not do the same thing to climate realism!
The story says the facts are that 50,000 Poles who gathered in downtown Warsaw on Monday to celebrate National Independence Day were addressed about Climate. That’s a very different thing from the headline.
REPLY: Sure no problem…was a quick posting -A

milodonharlani

The crowd waved flags & there was scattered applause. Poland has unusual customs for showing approval, as anyone who ever heard Pope John Paul II make a humming sound in appreciation will know.
But even if the crowd could have been more demonstrative, how many US Independence Day celebrations include addresses by CACA skeptics? In a rally organized by Solidarity, it’s even more impressive, IMO.

albertalad

eo says: I’d like to see Obama trying to pass that crap through the Republican controlled house. Not gonna happen in your Obama lifetime after he messed up their health care so badly. And only congress can ratify treaties, period!

Jquip

“The Poles see right through warming propaganda. Enduring generations of socialism has left them with a deep distaste for propaganda and bureaucratic control. ” — OP
And it gets terribly cold. Hard sell to state “You must freeze by law, or women might wear swimsuits.”

omnologos says:
Do we have independent verification for this? Where the people out there for something else, to which somebody attached climate skepticism, a topic maybe of minimal interest to the mass of people in the square?
Poland has a massive coal industry, so there is great resentment against EU and UN attempts to impose job destroying costs on carbon.
I’m sure there were many other grievances being aired that day, but just as the NAZIs had Eugenics crisis, so the EU justifies its anti-democratic excesses in the name of saving the world from the carbon crisis – so it would have been a real issue, for many in that square.
As recent emigrants from occupied Europe, you have to live there to experience the rise of totalitarianism. Bit by bit, sliver by sliver, people’s freedoms are being eroded. A little press control in the UK, excessively powerful EU police powers, child “protection” procedures which are beyond public scrutiny or review – bit by bit, the vice is tightening.
It is natural that the Poles, who endured decades of Soviet oppression, are among the first to recognise the new direction as an ugly rerun of the old.

CFACT is the only website I know of that provided the draft text of the document agreement from Rio +20. And we learn from CFACT that they were not allowed access to the final draft.
You all will remember Rio+20, the international meeting attended by Hilary Clinton and Lisa Jackson, the unelected, unaccountable ex-head of the unelected, unaccountable EPA. What was she doing at an international meeting? She has no authority to agree with international leaders on domestic energy generation and use issues.

Poland and independent spirit can often be used as synonyms!
Though the CFACT speaker does not seem particularly Polish ethnically or culturally, many of his statements are prima fascia consistent with Polish news and history.
Full Disclosure: I am 50% Polish. My mother was bred, born and raised in Poland. She was taken in her teens from her farm home in Poland to a work camp near Heidelberg Germany by WWII era Germans after their invasion of Poland. My father’s American Army unit liberated the workcamp near Heidelburg . . . romance and marriage ensued.
John

When the Berlin Wall fell, America and the West thought we had won. What we forgot is the wall which kept us out, also kept them in.
Do you know what Secretary Gorbachev, the last absolute ruler of the Soviet Union, did when he lost his job? He helped set up the UN Environmental Agency.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Gorbachev
Angela Merkel’s family were senior figures in the old East European Communist family. She would like you to think she was a warrior for freedom against Soviet oppression, but the truth is her family under the Communists enjoyed privileges – foreign travel, wealth – which few of their fellows had access to.
There are an awful lot of former Soviets in positions of global authority these days, using their Soviet era skills to climb the bureaucratic ladder to senior management.
I’m sure though, they’ve all learned the lessons of the past, and now embrace freedom and democracy, right?

JMurphy

“Polish police used rubber bullets against masked youths who had attended an ultranationalist march that attracted an estimated 50,000 supporters.”
http://www.rferl.mobi/a/25165359.html
“Far-right Rioters Leave Trail of Destruction in Polish Capital.”
http://m.voanews.com/a/1788222.htm
But never mind – someone from CFACT addressed a rally and that can be spun into a story claiming “…one of the largest audiences to ever hear a speech denouncing UN global warming policies…” and stating unsubstantiated “…Polish feelings about the UN climate treaty…”.
Desperate stuff.

JMurphy, when people can no longer vote their politicians out of office, they turn to violence.
The real power in the European Union is the European Commission, headed by Jose Manuel Barrosso, former president of Portugal, former leading figure in the Portugese Communist Party.
Only the Commission has the power to source legislation – the parliament only has the power to approve or deny legislation presented by the Commission. The Commission has many means at its disposal to secure the votes they need, for example, the commission controls enormously lucrative special committee allowances, which they can award to senior members of parliament who vote the “right” way.
Democracy in Europe is a sham – the EU has enormous powers to override the laws of member states, but citizens of the member states have no real power to change the membership of the European commission, and the Commission gets what it wants from the parliament.
So what do citizens who are trapped in this nightmare do, when they want change?
There are two choices – protest, or leave. We chose to leave. The people you see rioting on TV, are some of the people who chose to stay.

PaulH

Imagine that… The Poles don’t like the idea of being pushed around by communists.
/snark

OssQss

The most vulnerable part about life on Earth is human dependence on energy provided by others.
Think about it.
What is the goal of the UN in the end with respect to CO2?
I am happy, even if those at tthe rally didn’t really fully understand what was said, they were at least exposed to the truth.
Truth is a very powerful weapon.
It is about greed, control, and history in the end.

OssQss says:
November 12, 2013 at 5:44 pm
Good one – hadn’t seen that Milton Friedman clip .

rabbit

Energy underpins our entire civilization, and thus the consequences of misguided energy policy are dire. When starry-eyed activists cripple energy infrastructure by replacing cheap and dependable power sources with expensive and intermittent ones, people suffer and sometimes die.
It’s good to see that point being made in a loud and obvious way.

Txomin

That’s A LOT of people in the pay of Big Oil. Poland must be swimming in money.

TomRude

Jmurphy, France is next in 2015 and if one can judge from the climate over there, their government has made a deal with the EU, introducing a CCE Climate Contribution Environment, otherwise known as carbon tax while the EU won’t be too harsh on France’s deficits. Check what’s happening to ecotax cameras… This is the start and the EU bureaucracy and its enablers from the left or the right will see what social explosion means.

milodonharlani

John Whitman says:
November 12, 2013 at 5:11 pm
Maybe you’d like to comment on Polish customs for applause & otherwise showing public approval. Do you find the crowd of your mom’s countrymen receptive or not to the sometimes awkwardly translated speech?
BTW, what a great wartime love story. Out of terrible events came great goodness.

Mark Urbo

Love the Polish people !!! Kick these eco-freak “green” whack-a-doos of the CAGW agenda driven cult religion off the planet.

Janice Moore

*******GREAT POST, A-TH-Y********
(yours, too, OssQss — Go, Milton Friedman!)
Dedicated to All the Heroes of Truth in Science —
Carter, Salby, Soon, Watts, … and all the Science Giants of WUWT:
United — for Truth

In every age, there is a new battle in the perpetual war of good against ev1l.
Our fight is against the l1es of Envirostalinism.
Each battle with ev1l goes on for many long years,
but, in the end,
truth wins.
With the help of God, truth wins.
Some will have to suffer to make that goal happen.
Some of us already have.
Don’t give up, O weary scientists. Fight on! With courage, integrity, and a refusal to give in to doomsaying defeatism, we will win through to victory.

Janice Moore

“France is next… .” (Tom Rude)
Yes! Go Brittany!
Protesting “Eco-tax” 2013

Janice Moore

Forgive me, J. Philip Peterson — forgot to acknowledge your inspiration (at 4:42pm today) for my post (at 6:41pm today). Thanks! (no “hat tip,” lol, but a smile and a wave of the hand)

J. Fujita says:

I am truly in line with the aim of CFACT but I have to agree with omnologos in his earlier post – I, too, am puzzled by the seemingly unenthusiastic response to Rothbard’s speech. Is that typical of the Poles, or were they restrained by the presence of police due to previous acts of random violence at gatherings?

My ancestry is Polish and Russian, and I can say that in the communist system, you were not allowed to show much emotion–fear and the law. I worked there and also visit my family there from time to time. I am always asked for my passport in the former Soviet block because we (Americans) smile in our passports and by law, they were not allowed to smile. I was told, when I worked there, to stand straight and look ahead and don’t look anyone in the eye. Be serious. Don’t show enthusiasm except at home in the apartments. All emotion is for family only and that is only behind closed doors. So the fact that they are not showing much emotion is perfectly in keeping with how the Soviets forced them to be for so many years.

noaaprogrammer

All Polish jokes should now be rewritten to be U.N. jokes!