A media without shame drives us towards energy poverty.
By: Dr. Tim Ball and Tim Harris
Said Thomas Jefferson: “The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers.” Jefferson’s comment may be expanded to include most of today’s mass media; this is especially true of television. As American linguist Samuel Ichiye Hayakawa said: “In the age of television, image becomes more important than substance.” It is effectively visual lying, dictated by Marshall McLuhan’s observation: “The medium is the message.” For example, TV news programs often illustrate air pollution with a smoke stack emitting water vapor, implying it is pollution when it is anything but.
Distortion and deception are accentuated by hyperbole. Television news and documentaries frequently report normal weather as “extreme weather,” implying it is abnormal and caused by human activity. But while a hurricane, for example, may inflict serious damage to our structures and cause major loss of life, it is a normal event in hurricane-prone regions, where it is foolish to live without preparing for the weather patterns of the area.
The problem is accentuated when supposedly prestigious newspapers like the New York Times present provably false information. “Summer’s Beast is Loose,” published in the Times on July 16, was an obvious attempt to sensationalize warm, but normal, summer temperatures:
Read the entire piece at http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-age-of-hyperbole/?singlepage=true.
According to Steven Goddard it’s because we’re ealing with criminals: http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2013/07/31/dealing-with-criminals/
This idiocy again! Can we please stamp this silliness out. It is embarrassing. It is like claiming the earth cannot be round because ships would fall off the bottom (“ask the shipping industry about that and watch them squirm!”). It seizes on a small fact and by abusing the heck out of it and completely ignoring the wider context blows it up into a purported “proof” that AGW is not possible.
Yes water is not easily heated from above with a heat gun. That doesn’t kill the possibility of AGW however and here is why. You don’t need to “heat” water (as in directly warm it up) from above with LWR to make it warmer. Changing the ambient level of LWR will change the rate at which it COOLS and that is enough. If you slow the rate at which it cools at night it will, over the passage of several days, end up warmer.
The oceans warm via SWR during the day. They then cool by radiating LWR at night. The two effects are of the same order of magnitude so an awful lot of heat gets shifted out of the oceans via LWR. It is true that only the top skin of the water can absorb or radiate LWR. That top skin does in fact radiate LWR at night. This cools it triggering convection; the cooler top layer sinks and is replaced by deeper warmer water that radiates LWR in turn. This overturning and cooling process goes on all night.
The ONLY reason why you can’t easily heat (as in directly warm up) water from above with a heat lamp is that if you make the surface layer warmer than the deeper layers, convection is not triggered. Hence only a very thin skin on the top of the water gets warmed. But it is false to suggest that the only way AGW could make water warmer is by directly heating it (raising its temperature). As explained above it is enough to slow the rate of cooling during those times of the day when the water normally cools, and raising the ambient levels of LWR could be expected to do exactly that.
I’m as skeptical about the “C” in “CAGW” as the rest of you. But I will not tolerate attempts to support a skeptical position using false arguments which quirte simply abuse and misrepresent physics.
Bloke down the pub says: @ur momisugly July 31, 2013 at 10:15 am
While it’s reasonable to say that hurricanes are not unusual, I think it’s pushing a point to say they are not an extreme of weather.
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They may be ‘Extreme Weather’ but they are not ABNORMAL weather.
Life is lethal and Ma Nature does not suffer fools gladly. Our technology has allowed these fools to continue living and multiply…. at least for a time. But do not worry they are busy trying to correct the problem.
“A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.” ~ George Bernard Shaw
Too bad the foolish parasites (Pauls) never bothered to find out what happens AFTER the ‘Socialist Utopia’ is achieved by the ‘Elite’.
THE CONCEPT
Fabian Socialist founders were George Bernard Shaw, the Webbs and H.G. Wells. They also founded the London School of Economics where many of today’s world political, banking and corporate leaders are trained. People like David Rockefeller, John F Kennedy, George Soros and where Bill Clinton and Pascal Lamy, the World Trade Organization Director -General who is calling for ‘Global Governance’, lecture.
‘…and we cannot make the social life and the world-peace we are determined to make, with the ill-bred, ill-trained swarms of inferior citizens that you inflict upon us.’ …
In 1913, the eugenicists succeeded in getting the Mental Incapacity Act through parliament. As a result, some 40,000 men and women were incarcerated without trial, having been deemed to fall into various specious categories such as ‘feeble-minded’ or ‘morally defective’. …Edith Huthwaite, from Yorkshire, was categorised as a moral defective after being convicted by Ripon magistrates of theft. She was held for 18 years….
Even the Gruniad verifies this: Eugenics: the skeleton that rattles loudest in the left’s closet: Socialism’s one-time interest in eugenics is dismissed as an accident of history. But the truth is far more unpalatable
VERIFICATION
THAT in a nutshell is what CAGW and Agenda 21 are really about.
Considering that heating radiation from the sun only penetrates a few meters into the ocean it can not directly heat below about 30 feet. (particulate matter, algae, etc). This deep pond theroy is only possible in perfectly clear water with out any impurities, but they fail at mentioning that.. Gee I wonder why?
This heat is hiding at great depth is such a farce yet they continue to spew it. Agenda trumps everything.. Even facts..
Gerry Parker says:
July 31, 2013 at 9:22 am
My fellow sailors have noted that modern life also disconnects people from wind and it’s power.
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after 20 years cruising offshore, returning home I found I could forecast the weather much better than the weather report. The weather man life doesn’t depend on getting it right.
I don’t think that weather alarmism is anything new. It seems to be hard-wired into the human species. Perhaps it has something to do with almost all of our history, where weather determined whether we lived or died.
People are scared by weather, and rightly so. Civilisation is largely about finding ways to ameliorate its effects, especially on food supplies.
While I agree that a lot of rubbish about weather is a staple of the media, people who think rationally about it are a minority, IMO. That’s why it’s a staple of the media. It may also be one reason why those who promise to control it (eg the CAGW crowd) have gotten so much traction.
Many early religions were animist; things like rain-dances and similar ceremonies to appease the weather gods are a common feature. In a weird way, CAGW alarmism goes back to the most primitive aspects of humanity.
cynical_scientist says:
“The ONLY reason why you can’t easily heat (as in directly warm up) water from above with a heat lamp is that if you make the surface layer warmer than the deeper layers, convection is not triggered. Hence only a very thin skin on the top of the water gets warmed”
This is plain wrong!!!!!—please watch the video above from minute 39 to 44 and you will learn why you can’t heat the water from above with long wave (heat) radiation. Most of the energy goes into assembling water crystals and not into heat.
So true! And there’s more that is even less well known. Five years later this was repeated on July 4, 1831 when James Monroe, the 5th President passed away. While not a core founder, he was Madison’s protégé and the final Jeffersonian Republican President.
And, then again five years later exactly one week shy of July 4th James Madison passed away on June 28th, 1836. Quite an astounding set of coincidences. One might think they all held on purposefully to leave the Earth on Independence Day.
It was stunningly appropriate for Adams and Jefferson to pass away the same day on the 50th anniversary. These two were the embodiment of the most fundamental divide in American politics – Adams the focal point of the big government Federalists, and their arch-nemesis Jefferson the founder of the small government Democratic-Republicans. One can draw a direct line to the Red-Blue State divide straight back to (DR) and (F) parties during Washington’s administration when Adams was Vice-President and Jefferson was Secretary of State.
The split already was evident with the Adams-Hamilton blue state Federalist faction clashing with the Jefferson-Madison red state Republicans. In fact Jefferson resigned as SoS in Washington’s 2nd term in frustration over government growth only to come back to challenge Adams for President in 1796, although losing he became Vice-President and then focused his efforts on growing the opposition (DR) party and winning in the 1800 rematch.
Years later, after Adams angrily returned home in 1801 and after Jefferson returned home in 1809, they would correspond in private letters from around 1812 for the last 14 years or so of their lives.
Another amazing fact is that these four were very long lived for their era, Adams was 90, Jefferson was 83, Madison was 85, and Monroe the youngest at 73.
Bill H says:
July 31, 2013 at 5:05 pm
Considering that heating radiation from the sun only penetrates a few meters into the ocean it can not directly heat below about 30 feet….
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“heating radiation” = IR???
Solar radiation can penetrate much deeper (100 meters) but the low energy IR wavelengths of the greenhouse effect can only penetrate ~ 10 micrometers
GRAPH
Google translate:
That increased CO2 greenhouse radiation warms the AGW is a fable, the long-wave infrared radiation from the atmosphere has a lot to low energy (wavelength) is a no deeper than a fraction of a millimeter (10 micrometers). This is much less than the boundary layer where evaporation takes place (500 micrometers), and that’s the only thing the infrared radiation can do, help to evaporate water.
In other words any heating of the ocean is from solar radiation (but only to the depth of 100 meters) and not from bounced back ‘Earthshine’ If there is heat ‘Hiding in the oceans’ it is because of the changes in the amount of UV as noted by NASA – SORCE’s Solar Spectral Surprise
So the amount of UV entering the ocean depends on ozone and clouds per this paper.
From NASA again.
“During dissociation the atomic and molecular oxygens gain kinetic energy, which produces heat and causes an increase in atmospheric temperature. I am not going to get into it but this heat causes the atmosphere to be more ‘Puffed-up” Back to NASA.
More info from Physicist Nir Shaviv in language a layman can under stand.
http://www.sciencebits.com/NothingNewUnderTheSun-II
http://www.sciencebits.com/NothingNewUnderTheSun-III
And the earth’s global temperature has not been increasing for the last ~ 15 to 17 years or since the late nineties….
Gail, even the 10um thick surface description you list is not correct. The brand-new science shows “water crystals” growing from a “battery” effect at the air-wtaer interface causing water molecules (dipoles) to align themselves from the energy of the long wave IR. Please watch video above from about 38mins to 44mins
Dr. Ball, as a Canadian you should have a better understanding of McLuhan. His intent was to communicate that the existence and capabilities of the medium were far more important than its transient content. That there are radio, TV, phones, and the Internet affects the culture and people more (= is the message) than what they happen to be carrying (apparent messages).
Bob B says:
August 1, 2013 at 11:03 am
…. Please watch video above from about 38mins to 44mins
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Remote Sensing of Water – GERS Laboratory at UPRM also shows IR barely penetrating the surface skin of water in slide 3.
My computer does not support video (too old)
All I found with a web search is the 18th International Couette-Taylor Workshop (Physics of Fluids Group) (24 – 26 june 2013) but it had nothing on what you are talking about. The infrared search word referred to a ” a co-rotating infrared camera”
The other papers I found were:
“Infrared Reflection–Absorption Spectrometry of
Monolayer Films at the Air–Water Interface” by Richard Mendelsohn and Carol R. Flach
Interesting but not what you are talking about.
“On the Structure of Water at the Aqueous/Air Interface”
Yubo Fan, Xin Chen, Lijiang Yang, Paul S. Cremer, and Yi Qin Gao
Again interesting
This one is especially interesting
And this paper:
I am not finding any thing that seems close to what you are talking about.
From Bob B on August 1, 2013 at 11:03 am:
From 1992: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF00655849#page-1
Studies on the electrical double layer structure at the water/air interface
And this is just a quickly-Googled example. This “brand-new science” is old hat, the double layer “battery effect” structure has long been known, can be brought about by UV, common chemicals in seawater, etc.
Wrapping it up as “water crystals” does not make it “brand-new”, nor convey to it special newly-discovered powers.
Besides, you’ve completely ignored what was said. You’re arguing there is no heating from LWIR, which wasn’t being debated. What happens is a slowing of the loss of LWIR from the oceans, which you completely bypassed to defend (again) what wasn’t being argued.
On dial-up? I don’t have the hours to download just three minutes of this nonsense.
Man, I love it when I find free wireless for fast downloads like software updates, or do the anti-virus updates on the Windoze partitions in minutes vs overnight. But if DSL makes one susceptible to watching hour-long videos you know are anti-scientific garbage to demonstrate an “open mind”, it might not be worth getting!
kadaka, hear, hear.
I have fast broadband, but whenever someone says “just watch this 90 minute video” as a justification, forget it. Why can’t they just explain their point?
Gail, some references
Kadaka, Dr Pollock discovered some of these effects in 2003
Johanna, I did explain it but the video provides wonderful images of the “water crystals”
http://www.uweb.engr.washington.edu/education/pdf/mork.pdf
http://faculty.washington.edu/ghp/research-themes/water-science/
http://www.i-sis.org.uk/liquidCrystallineWater.php
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16952332