Josh writes:
Dana said in a tweet that I don’t ‘put any intelligent thought’ in my cartoons, see screen shot below. I guess that means he thinks they are clever! I will take that as a compliment.
Worth repeating from this post.
The prominent climatologist Mike Hulme has slammed the Cook et al 97% “nonsensus” paper in a comment at the Nottingham University Making Science Public blog.
The blog post at Nottingham University and the subsequent comments are well worth reading.
Josh
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Apparently i’m being pre-moderated at the guardian
My sin? Disagreeing with dana
I predict a ban from his twitter feed
Those are my principles, and if you don’t like them… well, I have others.
Groucho (Dana) Marx
if he can’t be honest about how the company he works for makes it’s money, why should anyone believe he can be honest about anything else?
So he admits it, Josh’s Cartoons have that certain je ne sais quoi! (;
http://bishophill.squarespace.com/display/ShowImage?imageUrl=/storage/screening2scr.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1339576210655
“Ooo.”
Proponents of AGW should look back to the initial international global warming conferences. Those conference were chaired and headed by a person who is strongly connected with the oil and gas industry almost to the day when he moved out of public view. There is no need to hide, just be open and frank. Oil and gas industry just like any big business are considered in politics open targets for making profits by taking advantage of the public or the voters. In any political rhetoric the cheapest and simplest way of labeling an opponent as dirty, greedy and other expletives without being libelous is to associate them with one of the big businesses like banking, gas and oil, tobacco, chemical ( for creating the chemical environment–the environment is really made of chemicals and energy in its purest state), etc depending on the current scandals. However, in private and among themselves politicians understand the role of big businesses in their political careers as well as the economies they are governing. They support and play with big businesses. Global warming or rather climate change debate is almost a simple political debate now that the computer models are starting to diverge from the data in spite of data manipulation. It does not matter if the facts on AGW espoused by politicians are wrong a million times as long as politicians believes supporting AGW will keep them in office. Politicians could just as easily dump, modify and even move to the other side once they feel espousing the AGW mantra does not translate to votes or keep them in power. The proponents AGW should just change their roles to being politicians rather than hide behind the smokescreen of “science”.
Per their 2012 Annual Report, Tetra Tech’s list of representative clients includes:
· Chevron Corp.
· ConocoPhillips Co.
· Exxon Mobil Corp.
· Kinder Morgan Energy Partners
· Kuwait Oil Co.
· Saudi Arabian Oil Company
· Shell Canada Ltd.
· Southern California Gas
· Suncor Energy
· Texas Energy Group LLC
Regardless of what part of the corporation he may work in, Mr. Nuccitelli can not deny that he accepts money from a company which accepts money from the Oil and Gas industry.
(Cross posted from Lucia’s)
I’m starting to think about running a Consensus project. I’m wondering if I couldn’t get a %97 percent consensus that Cook’s 97% consensus is a load of worthless hooey. I don’t know anything about proper methodology for this, but that’s OK, neither did Cook. Of course, if I could address some of the problems in the original study, maybe I could get it published as a response.
Just a thought.
“… wondering if I couldn’t get a 97 percent consensus that Cook’s 97% consensus is a load of worthless hooey.” [Mark Bofill at 5:23PM]
The Global Warming Petition Project may be a good place to start. 31,487 scientists, 9,029 with Ph. D.’s, signed an anti-CAGW petition.
For details see: http://www.petitionproject.org/index.php
Your work is cut out for you:
1) There are some names missing (I found two in the S’s whom I was surprised had not signed) — perhaps, they just don’t know about the petition and would be happy to sign — inform them.
2) PUBLICITY needed for this list of REAL scientists.
If DN is an environmental specialist with Tetra, then the team he is on is tasked with doing baseline studies and impact studies essential for the permitting of a production well or pipeline. He obviously has to approve of the raison d’etre of the industry or he wouldn’t be working for Tetra. His “don’t go fishing” admonition arises from guilt over the duplicity of working secretly for the industry and trashing it in public. When Tetra finds out about all this, Dana may be looking for other employment. Would it be mean to direct Tetra to Dana’s other life?
I have just one thing to say to Dana/Diana – please, keep digging. 🙂
And congratulations Josh – you seem to have hit the target right on the bullseye with this one.
I don’t blame anyone for rubbing his face in it because he does deserve it. However, it truly saddens me is that anyone anywhere would think that being identified as someone who helps provide energy to people is a smear.
Pathetic.
So for Dana it is a case of “don’t do as I do, do as I say”. So we can pretty much substitute the word “Dana” for “hypocrite” in our lexicon. Bit harsh perhaps. But you reap what you sow.
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Hmmm….A drawing and a caption that in one pane effectively communicates the point of an often complex idea. And in a humorous way.
Nah! That doesn’t take any intelligent thought.
cspe says:
July 27, 2013 at 1:30 am
I don’t blame anyone for rubbing his face in it because he does deserve it. However, it truly saddens me is that anyone anywhere would think that being identified as someone who helps provide energy to people is a smear.
Pathetic.
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I agree!
I congratulate Dana for his employer choice.
Althoiugh, I believe it’s wrong of him to not support his employer on moral grounds.
Either get behind Tetra or get out.
Personally, I like what the company does.
For Dana to deny Tetra’s contribution to mankind is wrong.
What Dana and his company provide is life itself.
I’d fire an employee that didn’t actively promote our company and our work.
If there’s a demonstration I know which side of the line he better be on.
cn
Glenn says:
July 26, 2013 at 9:51 am
“We support oil and gas exploration and production, gathering pipelines, transmission pipelines, compressor/pumping stations, processing facilities, refineries, storage facilities (above ground and below ground), and rail, truck, and marine terminal import and export facilities.”
http://www.tetratech.com/markets/oil-a-gas.html#sthash.xqXPc8ah.dpuf
Simple fact is that he gets his check from this company
As we say “he who pays the piper calls the tune”. He works for an OIL COMPANY.
Dana’s response shows that, in the battle of wits Josh has engaged Dana in, Josh is battling a half-armed man.
picked up my ban from @dana1981 for pointing out censorship without explanation in a national newspaper is unacceptable
Dana, and so many other AGW extremists, are perfectly content to use alleged ties to what they claim is part of a vast conspiracy in order to silence and de-legitimize skeptics. He seems much less open to the idea that he should be judged by the standard with which he judges others.
Like most extremists, he is at heart a shallow hypocrite.