I’m traveling this weekend, posting will be light to nonexistent. Guest authors are welcome to post submissions.
Feel free to talk about anything withing the blog policy.
I’m traveling this weekend, posting will be light to nonexistent. Guest authors are welcome to post submissions.
Feel free to talk about anything withing the blog policy.
for anyone following this, my 1,130,000 times number is also wrong. The trick is to see if jm can figure out why.
taxed says:
July 12, 2013 at 1:53 pm
As some others have posted the UK is at the moment enjoying its best summer weather since 2006….
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Yes, we got the rain instead in NC. (We have another flood watch tonight) We have had 12.4 inches of rain in the last month and a half with rain for over half the days. 9.68 inches for June with the normal 4.1 . I have never seen the ground so soggy in summer. Normally it is hard as a brick at this time of year but instead I got my truck stuck in the farmyard.
david
I said 296
Doug Huffman says….
Doug, you might enjoy this article at Forbes. U.S. Tax System Ranks 94th Out Of 100 — Right Below Zimbabwe
The comment from David S. Lesperance, an International Tax lawyer on the ‘Flight of the Golden Geese’ is especially interesting. I could not help but think of the Cyprus Haircut that killed that country.
Think about the CO2 tax the ruling class is salivating over as you read it.
Saw this on JoNova, good for a chuckle.
http://boingboing.net/2013/07/12/ktvu-sum-ting-wong-and.html
davidmhoffer says:
“for anyone following this, my 1,130,000 times number is also wrong. The trick is to see if jm can figure out why.”
Don’t pressure the guy , David, he is rather dense and very wet behind the ears !
jai mitchell says:
July 12, 2013 at 5:37 pm
david
I said 296
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OK 296x1000x4.2=1,243,200
Number is still wrong. Do you know why?
AndyG55 says:
July 12, 2013 at 6:09 pm
davidmhoffer says:
“for anyone following this, my 1,130,000 times number is also wrong. The trick is to see if jm can figure out why.”
Don’t pressure the guy , David, he is rather dense and very wet behind the ears !
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I’ve been watching him over a number of threads. He’s actually learning.
Tom in Florida says:
July 12, 2013 at 2:04 pm
That’s good advice.
Neil Jordan says:
July 12, 2013 at 4:34 pm
LOL. I’m sure it’s just coincidence they all appeared at the same time.
Hey Jai, did you learn about the algebra Hoffer taught you? (Two divided by Two is the same as 4 divided by Four.)
‘fess up if you learned something, or provide your “spin”.
Either way, we will enjoy….
I’m not sure if this ruling will be significant, but it does show a court thinks the EPA isn’t doing enough to rid the world of demon CO2, even from green sources.
http://www.eenews.net/stories/1059984329 says in part
From the “It’s Worse Than We Thought” file:
Climate Change Has Resulted In More Predation On Mosquito-Eating Birds
According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), 286 people were killed in the US in 2012 by West Nile virus, which is carried by mosquitoes. Many bird species eat these mosquitoes and other insects that can be agricultural pests. Rising temperatures are threatening these wild birds, including the Missouri-native Acadian flycatcher, by making snakes more active and hungrier.
http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/1112895990/snakes-are-devouring-more-mosquito-eating-birds-071213/
And this:
DOE Offers Dire Warnings Of Climate Change’s Impact On Energy Grid
July 12, 2013
A new US Department of Energy (DOE) report warns about the massive direct and indirect impacts climate change is expected to have on the United States’ energy grid in the coming years.
Citing a shortage of cooling water for power plants, low water levels hampering coal barge and oil tanker traffic, and raging wildfires taking down transmission lines, the report asserts the effects of climate change are already being felt by the nation’s energy sector.
http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/1112896113/doe-offers-dire-warnings-of-climate-change%E2%80%99s-impact-on-energy-grid/
jai mitchell says:
July 12, 2013 at 10:41 am
A meteorologist acquaintance of mine posted on FB:
What an incredibly bizarre weather setup. Upper level low will retrograde from southwest PA right now to New Mexico by early next week, before dissipating. Weird.
I’m tempted to make a crack about global weirding.
New statement from Macquarie Uni on Salby’s dismissal.
This just in, “Why Land Air Temperature is Exactly Wrong” by EM Smith
Discusses energies released in the atmosphere with phase changes.
Excerpt from Why Land Air Temperature is Exactly Wrong, on water vapor:
“Where it is dry, it can get very hot. Where it is wet, the water turns to steam, rises, falls as rain, and the land cools. Temperature over land tells you about the water nearby, or in the clouds and rain. Not about the radiative profile. Florida, far more south than California, has a daily summer tropical temperature profile that peaks in the low 90s F. (Sometimes less). Water all around, so lots of rain to cool peak temperatures. It’s about a 20 F to 30 F offset between the dry places (Arizona desert, Death Valley) and the wet places (Florida). Another 10F to 20F cooler along the coast of California near San Diego. It is all due to water, not due to radiative differences.”
jai mitchell says: @ur momisugly July 12, 2013 at 4:07 pm
…..Of course, on the flip side of that, in the presence of increased warming, the oceans take a much longer time to warm (generally considered to be one full cycle of the thermohaline current or about 500 years) to reach thermal equilibriuium. And the surface of the earth will continue to increase rapidly and then reach final equilibrium in several hundred years, according to the following graph.
“http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/FairPlanFig1c.gif”
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ERRRRrrrrr, do you not have that backwards? If the full cycle is ~500 years (I thought it was ~800 to 1000 years) then we should be looking at the ‘surface’ temperature from 800 to 1000 years ago expressing itself now.
Looking at a Wiki Graph it means we should be sliding into a repeat of the Little Ice Age.
From NOAA:
So yes, it is 1000 years therefore If the Wiki graph is correct the ocean temp is peaking from the temperatures during the Medieval Warm Period peaking and according to the SST graph from the EPA and the most recent graph from Bob Tisdale, you can see the SST start flat-lining around 1998.
okay, the gremlins got me. It should be:
“Two divided by Two is the same as divided by Four.”
Omit the stupid “4” that cropped up.
Jimbo says: @ur momisugly July 12, 2013 at 4:38 pm
….. Is there anything that the trace rise of the trace gas (Co2) can’t do???
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Produce a robust economy???? – No strike that, I forgot it is providing a Windfall of unearned cash for the hucksters.
Please give me some feedback of these ‘Green’ engine designs I have released.
Natural energy power collectors & Distributed storage suggestions
http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/RichardLH/story/77871
Natural energy power collectors & Distributed storage suggestions
Wave
Wind/Tidal flow/River flow
Water/Tide
Solar
Storage
Wave (Mechanical rectifier and storage circuit)
—
Flat, ‘sea level’, beach pointing at the waves with turbine throat entry side walls to direct the water towards the turbine(s) at rear.
Flat disc water turbine(s) (or see below) to remove the energy, drop the water to the return outlet level.
Return flow of water to the beach edge across the whole of the entry face.
Fig 1.
Wind/Tidal Flow/River flow
—
Large flat cross-flow air/water turbine ‘ring’ floating in/on a water supported canal, pond, lake, sea, etc.
Fixed and/or moveable vertical air/water foils on ‘bank’ and ‘ring’. Power takeoff between ‘bank’ and ‘ring’.
Fig 2.
Water/Tide
—
Large hollow boxes float in the working liquid at atmospheric pressure in a ‘lock pond’. Water flows through ‘lock pond’ from above (or from tide).
Boxes float in the ‘lock pond’ under constrained conditions vertically to provide power.
Water is exhausted to the lower level and the boxes return to bottom/start position(s).
Double acting version (ballasted pistons) with rocking power connection to the engine house
Fig 3.
Fig 4.
Solar
—
Create ‘thermal diode’ by stacking ‘low – medium – hot’ hollow tubes of constant cross section, constructed with solar absorbing tops.
Insulate non-collecting surfaces and separate tube into heat input areas in increasing thermal order.
Take fast hot air provided at exit and deliver to turbine/fan throat in classical manner.
Expand and slow the air in turbine/fan to exhaust velocities and extract power.
Exhaust rises slowly up low chimney to outside.
Fig 5.
Personal/Leisure Power
—
Use strap and ratchet system to build rotational speed in a water filled flywheel.
Use energy collected for light power uses.
Fig 6.
Portable Solar
—
Concentrate sun on ceramic air/heat exchanger
Air is drawn in though base and passes the pre-heat tube (heated from ceramic air/heat exchanger)
Air is then heated by the ceramic air/heat exchanger to working temperature
Cold air is added as required
Resultant mixture is passed to turbine throat
Turbine/Fan slows the air and extracts energy
Cool air rises from chimney
Fig 7.
Air Car/Toy
—
Use compressed air (from free municipal supply?)
Store in two (or more) lightweight cylinders running length of vehicle
Working low pressure cylinders run the length also, alongside the storage
Pistons (two or more) run in each cylinder
Entry and exit valves are situated at both ends as normal
Wire rope passes through seals in cylinder ends
Rope passes out and over power takeoff wheel
Pistons move back and forth in the normal way, full travel
Low speed of air expansion and use means lower temperature and other expansion problems
The back and forth motion is transferred by the takeoff wheel to drive wires
The drive wires are connected to gearboxes/motors which converts this to rotary motion for motive power
Fig 8.
Distributed Inertial Mass Power Storage and Local AC supply/feed.
—
Create large ring of heavy material floating, hydro-statically balanced, in a housing with lubricating fluids to be used in ‘sub’ or ‘surface level’, cellars/pits.
One ‘local power pod’ contains AC/DC generator(s) to supply ‘house’/’factory’.
One ‘local hook-up pod’ allows any locally collected energy to be input (solar, wind, water, etc.), if available.
One ‘Good Neighbour pod’ contains hook-up through to municipal base load generators/supply.
Mechanical/Magnetic connections between pods and ring for power transfer.
Spin up through GNP and/or local supply to working speed.
Connect ‘house’ when up to working speed.
(‘house’ has no direct connection to the municipal base load generators/supply.)
No picture
RLH July 2013
Wave
Wind/Tidal flow/River flow
Water/Tide
Solar
Storage
Wave (Mechanical rectifier and storage circuit)
—
Flat, ‘sea level’, beach pointing at the waves with turbine throat entry side walls to direct the water towards the turbine(s) at rear.
Flat disc water turbine(s) (or see below) to remove the energy, drop the water to the return outlet level.
Return flow of water to the beach edge across the whole of the entry face.
Fig 1.
Wind/Tidal Flow/River flow
—
Large flat cross-flow air/water turbine ‘ring’ floating in/on a water supported canal, pond, lake, sea, etc.
Fixed and/or moveable vertical air/water foils on ‘bank’ and ‘ring’. Power takeoff between ‘bank’ and ‘ring’.
Fig 2.
Water/Tide
—
Large hollow boxes float in the working liquid at atmospheric pressure in a ‘lock pond’. Water flows through ‘lock pond’ from above (or from tide).
Boxes float in the ‘lock pond’ under constrained conditions vertically to provide power.
Water is exhausted to the lower level and the boxes return to bottom/start position(s).
Double acting version (ballasted pistons) with rocking power connection to the engine house
Fig 3.
Fig 4.
Solar
—
Create ‘thermal diode’ by stacking ‘low – medium – hot’ hollow tubes of constant cross section, constructed with solar absorbing tops.
Insulate non-collecting surfaces and separate tube into heat input areas in increasing thermal order.
Take fast hot air provided at exit and deliver to turbine/fan throat in classical manner.
Expand and slow the air in turbine/fan to exhaust velocities and extract power.
Exhaust rises slowly up low chimney to outside.
Fig 5.
Personal/Leisure Power
—
Use strap and ratchet system to build rotational speed in a water filled flywheel.
Use energy collected for light power uses.
Fig 6.
Portable Solar
—
Concentrate sun on ceramic air/heat exchanger
Air is drawn in though base and passes the pre-heat tube (heated from ceramic air/heat exchanger)
Air is then heated by the ceramic air/heat exchanger to working temperature
Cold air is added as required
Resultant mixture is passed to turbine throat
Turbine/Fan slows the air and extracts energy
Cool air rises from chimney
Fig 7.
Air Car/Toy
—
Use compressed air (from free municipal supply?)
Store in two (or more) lightweight cylinders running length of vehicle
Working low pressure cylinders run the length also, alongside the storage
Pistons (two or more) run in each cylinder
Entry and exit valves are situated at both ends as normal
Wire rope passes through seals in cylinder ends
Rope passes out and over power takeoff wheel
Pistons move back and forth in the normal way, full travel
Low speed of air expansion and use means lower temperature and other expansion problems
The back and forth motion is transferred by the takeoff wheel to drive wires
The drive wires are connected to gearboxes/motors which converts this to rotary motion for motive power
Fig 8.
Distributed Inertial Mass Power Storage and Local AC supply/feed.
—
Create large ring of heavy material floating, hydro-statically balanced, in a housing with lubricating fluids to be used in ‘sub’ or ‘surface level’, cellars/pits.
One ‘local power pod’ contains AC/DC generator(s) to supply ‘house’/’factory’.
One ‘local hook-up pod’ allows any locally collected energy to be input (solar, wind, water, etc.), if available.
One ‘Good Neighbour pod’ contains hook-up through to municipal base load generators/supply.
Mechanical/Magnetic connections between pods and ring for power transfer.
Spin up through GNP and/or local supply to working speed.
Connect ‘house’ when up to working speed.
(‘house’ has no direct connection to the municipal base load generators/supply.)
No picture
RLH July 2013
Nick Stokes says:
July 12, 2013 at 6:35 pm
New statement from Macquarie Uni on Salby’s dismissal.
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Well at least this time they addressed some of the issues directly instead of hand waving. I suspect this story has plenty of twists and turns left in it,
cynical_scientist says:
July 12, 2013 at 4:58 pm
Office of the Inspector General semiannual report 2007
http://www.nsf.gov/pubs/2009/oig0902/oig0902_4.pdf
An OIG investigation into an allegation that a former professor at a Colorado university submitted a proposal to NSF that overlapped with an undisclosed proposal from an external non-profit research company founded by the subject….
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Desmog blog is accusing Murry Salby of being that professor.
Unfortunately this ‘Confidential Memo’ posted by NSF to the internet seems to state it is true link
What the heck is a United States Government connected organization doing posting on the internet memos stamped confidential?!? This is not a copy slipped to Greenpeace but from a http://www.nsf.gov/ site. Someone needs their rump kicked but good.
Carlin Economics blog has a good write-up of Salby’s presentation in Germany: http://www.carlineconomics.com/archives/1569
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So is it time to bring back DDT? The wind turbines are taking out the bald eagles so what’s the harm?
Richard LH says:
July 12, 2013 at 6:54 pm
Frankly i can make neither head nor tail of your post.
As far as I can see the ideas your promote are very old some of which were at one time or another subject to patent but have long since been forgotten for the very good reasons that they did not work.
May I suggest if you think these concepts might be commercially viable you consult a reputable patent attorney who will advise you.
Kindest Regards
Thanks Nick. Confirms some of the conclusions I had drawn. I assume you are aware also of the reasons why he left his tenured position at Colorado.
When debate gets highly polarised there is a tendency to think in terms of us and them. The sad truth is there are saints and sinners on both sides. In my opinion some skeptics have been far too quick to close ranks behind this man who, while he may be one of us, a sceptic, is most definitely not a saint. They foolishly took him at his word not knowing that his history of dishonesty would indicate that his word should not be trusted. Oops!
I’d like to draw a comparison between Salby and Gleick. Indeed the two of them should be put in the same box in my opinion (and then buried?). Science requires ethics. Neither seems well equipped. Gleick still has wide support among warmists. Is Salby going to retain his support among skeptics in the face of these revelations? It will be fascinating to watch.