Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach
It’s a bad week for poor people around the planet. First, and with great fanfare, our President unleashed his patented climate plan, affectionately known as Obama’s War on Coal™. He hasn’t said yet how much Obama’s War on Coal™ will cost, but we can be sure that it will not be cheap. And as in any war, it is guaranteed that the poor will suffer the most.
Sadly, this was followed by even worse news. The World Bank has decided it wants to keep the developing world from having inexpensive electricity. They will not make any more loans for coal-fired power plants.
You remember “inexpensive electricity”? When I was a kid, the US Government used to be in favor of inexpensive electricity, because it was rightly seen as the savior of the poor farmer and the poor housewife. That’s why the Tennessee Valley Authority came to be. I wash the clothes around our house, and I don’t do it by hand. I have inexpensive energy to do that. Now, however, the government and the environmental NGOs and the climate alarmists are doing every single thing that they can to make energy more expensive. And the World Bank has just officially joined the baying chorus.
The World Bank thinks that inexpensive energy will harm the poor … not now, of course, but in fifty years. And on that basis, the World Bank thinks it is justified to harm the poor now.
This is the madness at the base of the climate alarmists policy—it actively harms the poor now, with the justification that it might help their grandkids avoid harm in 50 years.
The wealthy fat-cats running the World Bank are unwilling for school kids in India to have cheap electricity to study by, on the grounds that it might, not will but might, make those students’ grandkids a bit warmer in a century. I doubt that the poor in India would vote for that plan, but I guess the World Bank is our economic paterfamilias who knows what the poor need, much better than the poor know themselves, and it’s not cheap electricity …
The same thing is going on in the US. Where I live, California, the resident burglars are called the Pacific Gas and Electric Company, known as PGE. They are a monopoly utility, and supposedly they are run for the benefit of the ratepayers.
Now, if you had a monopoly public utility for say water, and your water supplier said they were going to charge twenty times the going price for a glass of water if you were really, really thirsty, would you think that was in the public interest?
That’s exactly what’s happening to Anthony, PGE is gouging him on the price because that’s when he really needs the electricity … what kind of a screwed up world has this become? A public utility is supposed to provide cheap energy, not gouge the customers at the time they really need the electricity.
Now, the East Coast and the Powder River country is going to feel the pain, as coal-fired plants close and their electricity costs start to creep up. So, since war has been declared, let’s see if Obama’s War on Coal™ is worth the billions and billions of dollars it will cost … what are we buying for our money?
Well, fortunately I don’t have to go through all the math to figure it out. There is a strong supporter of the Obama climate plan named Chris Hope, who has done the math for us. His blog says:
Chris is a climate change policy researcher, PAGE model developer, and faculty member at Cambridge Judge Business School, interested in environment and energy.
He has used his whiz-bang model to do the calculations. His assumption is that the US will do the following
1) Lower the CO2 emissions to 83% of the 2008 level over the next seven years, and
2) Maintain that low level of emissions for the succeeding 80 years.
Now, absent a huge technological breakthrough or another depression, there’s little chance of us getting to 83% of 2008 emissions in the next seven years.
But that pales before the improbable idea of the US maintaining that low a level of emissions for the next 80 years.
So to start with, we see that Mr. Hope has made the most hopeful assumptions about the climate plan—first that it will meet its initial goal, and second that it will maintain that goal for over three-quarters of a century.
And with those likely unattainable assumptions, what does Mr. Hope calculate as the effect of Obama’s War on Coal™?
Well … um … well, he says that by the year 2100, nearly a century from now, that the temperatures will be much cooler.
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How much cooler, you ask?
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Well … two …
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Two degrees C?
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Er … no …
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Oh … so, it’s two tenths of a degree C, then, not two degrees C?
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Um … no.
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I have to confess, in writing this I find that I am very reluctant to reveal the expected outcome of Obama’s War on Coal™ for a simple reason—it is at times like this that I’m embarrassed to be an American.
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Because the reality is that Chris Hope, an ardent supporter of the War on Coal™, using the most optimistic (and unattainable) assumptions, says that IF we win the War on Coal and we put hundreds of people out of work and increase the cost of electricity for poor and wealthy alike (although obviously, Obama and his rich pals don’t care about the cost increase), here’s our prize. Here’s what Chris Hope says we’ve bought for the all the pain and suffering:
In the year 2100 the world might be 0.02°C cooler.
Two hundredths of a degree in a century. Maybe. That’s the prize. That’s what Chris Hope has proudly announced will be the reward for the job loss and the pain and suffering of the poor.
Two hundredths of a degree of cooling. An amount that is far below our ability to even measure …
Me, I think that that one fact alone should be our emblem and our rallying cry in opposition to this gob-smacking lunacy. So the next time someone says they think the War on Coal™ is a brilliant plan, gently point out to them that they are advocating spending billions and billions of dollars to cool the planet by two hundredths of a degree in the year 2100, and in the process harming the poor … and ask if that strikes them as the most rational of plans …
Or you could just shake them until their teeth rattle and say “You think we should spend billions of dollars to cool the planet two hundredths of a degree a century from now, while hurting the poor today? Have you gone barking mad? Billions for a reward that’s too small to be even measured, while pensioners shiver in fuel poverty? Unhand my wallet, you thieving varlet, and slink back to your hole!”
I swear, this unremitting attempt by Obama and the activists and the environmental NGOs to crush the poor back into their hovels, while they proudly declaim the noblest of motives, turns my stomach and threatens to fair unhinge my reason … how can they do that?
Billions and billions of dollars for two hundredths of a degree … bad news, folks, the Emperor not only has no clothes. He’s lost his mind entirely.
Grrrrr, bad for my blood pressure … in any case, here’s what coal did while Obama was declaring war on it …
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1) Lower the CO2 emissions to 83% of the 2008 level over the next seven years….”
No one bothers to tell you what that actually means. Those who advocate this believe the Hegelian Philosophy or the Modification of Hegelian Philosophy made by Marx.
I actually had some idiot Professor (a nice guy but still an idiot) try to teach this concept at a Management seminar full of foremen at Louisiana State University.
Unfortunately Mother Nature is REAL and she will often reward this type of thinking with a Darwin Award. Only the luxury of a rich country and (gobs of cotton batting) allows this type of thinking to exist. Now the entire US government is asking for a Darwin Award. and plans to take the rest of us off the cliff with them.
I did quick calculations on what it means to lower our footprint by 80% a while ago. It means a straight dive into third world poverty without the survival skills of a third world peasant. (links maybe stale)
Let us look at what real facts tell us.
The average energy use for the USA is 335.9 million BTUs per person. link (our total population is ~ 246,081,000)
In 1949, the U.S. energy use per person stood at 215 million Btu. link
The U.S. in 1800 had a per-capita energy consumption of about 90 million Btu. link (Total population: 5,308,483)
Therefore if the USA reduces its energy consumption by 80% it equals 45 million Btu. per person
Given the increase in technology and the present day hydro and nuclear power lets use the 1800 consumption level of about 90 million Btu. per person as the level of civilization we can expect. What does that mean?
The site Inventors helps us figure that out.
Farmers made up about 90% of labor force in 1790 and 69% of labor force in 1800. It was 2.6% in 1990 but as the massive red tape from the Food Safety Modernization Act, another obamination kicks in, expect family farms to completely disappear and your home garden to be targeted next. link
In 1830 about 250-300 labor-hours were required to produce 100 bushels (5 acres) of wheat with walking plow, brush harrow, hand broadcast of seed, sickle, and flail. (1987 – 2-3/4 labor-hours required to produce 100 bushels but that takes lots of oil.)
1810-30 saw the transfer of “manufacturing” from the farm and home to the shop and factory. It wasn’t until the 1840′s that we saw factory made farm machinery, labor saving devices and chemical fertilizers become at all common. It was in the 1860′s that kerosene lamps became popular. Also up until the 1850′s dung and wood were the major source of energy. link
In other words for the USA to use HALF the energy per person that was used in 1800 we must abandon ALL factories and 90% of the population must return to subsistence farming using animals. Remember in 1800 there was only 2% of the current population in the USA. Solar and Wind just are not going to produce enough power to keep us in anything but a few lights and if we are lucky a refrigerator per village. FACTORIES use a huge amount of power and that is why cotton mills and other primitive factories were built on rivers.
Anyone who tries to tell you differently is talking baffle gab because at present less than 9% of the US labor force is in manufacturing. The USA got rid of most of its really energy intense industry like smelting the ores to make machines. The USA has already shipped its factories to China so there just isn’t that much left to cut.
The ‘man-made’ global warming’ hoax is merely a ‘Trojan Horse’ by which the UN’s Agenda 21 is being delivered, the two key objectives of which are deindustrialisation and depopulation. The World Bank is complicit in this heinous crime against humanity.
Just look at the biofuels-driven starvation massacre which is taking place right now – 250 million people in the third world have already been starved to death. And countless thousands of the old and infirm frozen/starved to death in the ‘developed’ world every winter by demented policies to deliberately drive up the cost of energy.
Let’s hope there are enough lamp posts and piano wire to go around when this abhorrent period in history ends and the hoax finally unravels…
The World Bank has become a global warming scare-house since Obama’s nominee, Jim Yong Kim, took over the Presidency last summer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Yong_Kim
The World Bank used to be about financing large infrastructure like dams, and refinancing government debt when it became unsustainable. Now all it seems to be about is GHGs and the global warming scare.
They need to replace “Bank” in its name with “Waste-of-Resources”.
Willis is at his best when fired up – and rightly so.
Obama might just have thrown away the next election with his AGW activism and war on coal. He has from the start surrounded himself with activists and has made the mistake of thinking that AGW activists represent the popular mood. They don’t. He just insulted more than half of the USA calling them the flat earth society – the majority not convinced that earth’s climate was always static before human produced CO2 caused warming last century.
– By 2016, energy prices might rise due to his green policies, in spite of non-con gas.
– By 2016 the economy might be in worse shape when all the unforeseen consequences of printing money (and calling it “economic growth”) come home to roost.
– By 2016 the UK, partners in the anglosaxon fashion of AGW extremism, will have already started experiencing power cuts and rationing. Energy prices there will be sky-high, and also throughout Europe, due to eco-Ludditism.
– By 2016, as the AMO turns south, climate cooling might be gathering pace and becoming hard to hide from ordinary people if not from academics.
So Obama might be fashioning his own gallows, Haman-style, in the form of his war on coal and war on the poor.
[ First we had the wrrrrr on trrrr’rrrr
now its the wrrrrrr on the prrrrr – God bless America!! sorry couldn’t resist ]
I’m not one to ponder conspiracies so, I’ll just question why?
I don’t believe those in this administration are stupid but then again, I don’t believe they’re interested in saving the world. (I’ve seen what they’ve done to Chicago)
Therefore, I have to try and formulate a reason for them doing what they do when CO2 doesn’t go down, temperature doesn’t go down and people’s way of life isn’t improved, huh?
Why would they be using the “Brewster Effect” where you have to spend as much money as you can without having anything to show for it?
I can think of two things this will cause:
Money will be made; and people will suffer and die early.
So, If they’re not stupid and not humanitarian, what’s up with what they’re doing?
How can they take oil, hydro, nuclear and coal off the table?
The short answer is they can’t and they won’t.
I believe they’ll continue to milk the system and when this proves no longer doable they will shift gears to ensure they continue to progress…but to where?
And most importantly, why?
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phlogiston says:
July 1, 2013 at 5:13 am
[ First we had the wrrrrr on trrrr’rrrr
now its the wrrrrrr on the prrrrr – God bless America!! sorry couldn’t resist ]
In the UK of course – depending what part you’re from, it could be:
wore on the pore
were on the pere
waar on the paar
wuwa on the puwa
Willis, this is so simple to understand. These people are anti-modern civilization.. They want us to return to a poorer standard of living. They want to cull the human population. All to “save the plant”. Of course, they want us to reduce our footprint on Mother Earth, but not themselves. The lunatics are truly running the asylum.
I strongly disagree with Willis on one point, that this will make electricity expensive for the poor. The way this is being done, electricity will not be more expensive, it will simply be unavailable.
Obama does not just want coal to be more expensive, he wants to shut down many of the coal plants, and also shut down nuclear, hydro, and especially frakking, and replace them with “green” power, which simply produces too little power to replace any of that. The result, when introduced to any power grid, will not be less electricity, it will be no electricity.
Electric grids do not operate on, say, 70% of the power they need and keep operating, the best that can be done is to shut 30% of it down and keep the rest at 100%. Now, the question is, who gets the power, and who doesn’t? If it is rotated, how long can you go without power and live? How long will the food still last in a refrigerator? How long will you be willing to watch your children freeze to death in the dark (assuming you can see them)? How long can your place of work stay in business only operating 70% of the time (a time that might not be reliable)? Some businesses need to operate 24/7, what about them? And when the voters demand power for their homes, what happens to those businesses then? And when it happens, not even including the problems that what those businesses do may be vital, can you live on only 70% of the money you live on now? Of course, that assumes that your business can live on that as well, and is not forced to shut it’s doors, in which case you will be living on 0% of your pay. Unemployment lasts how long? Unemployment lasts how long when the taxable income shrinks how much? How much is your government in debt already? How much is a dollar or euro or whatever worth when there is nothing being produced to back it up and nothing you can buy with it? How long will the Chinese keep making us stuff if they receive nothing in return? How much more can they make if the pollution there is literally off the scale even if they do accept nothing but debt in return? If you have to accept rolling blackouts, how many blackouts do you expect your ‘great leaders’ in Washington DC will see? Yeah, that’s right, zero. The lords in the castle get the good stuff, you serfs in your dark, cold hovels get whatever they have left over, now do you understand what is really going on?
But don’t worry, our ‘great leaders’ have a plan, conservation and ‘efficiency’. What that really means is, from now on, you will only do what they tell you to do when they tell you to do it. You know, like in the good old days, when people were divided up into two classes, nobles, and serfs (another word for slave). You will do what they tell you and, as reward for his great leadership, AlGore will live in his lighted palace. And this will allow you to have power, right? WRONG! Think about it, exactly how efficient is something run entirely by our present leaders? After all, they have to have pensions, and light AlGores house, and pensions, and light and heat and run the expensive coffeemakers in all those now all important (we’re saving the planet!) government offices, and pensions, and the ever accelerating salaries of all these planet saving leaders, and pensions, and graft and corruption (greatly increased from even now), and pensions, and an ever increasing horde of government workers for such important jobs as the federal bunny inspectors, and their pensions. Did I forget pensions? Mustn’t forget pensions! Big pensions, early pensions, spiked pensions. You will be lucky to get power half the time, at ruinous expense, on your reduced or no pay.
But don’t worry, the government has another plan! Now they install the new, more efficient power meters in your house (at your expense, probably already installed). The efficiency part, oh, they can remotely shut down power one individual home at a time. Why do you suppose they were designed with that capability? I’m sure our great leaders will allocate power in a completely fair and impartial manner, they will not assure power first to their own homes and offices, oh no! They will operate in the same fair and impartial manner that the US IRS tax agency did when they held up tax exempt status to ten times as many anti Obama organizations as pro Obama ones (despite what you read in the papers, this is what they actually DID). AlGore will still get all the power he wants.
And do you think you can get by by going back to the old ways? Wrong, even if we turn back thousands of years of civilization and try to go back to the stone age (which is basically what a power less world will be), you will not be permitted to do so. Want to build a fire, just ask the beach bums in California how that is working out for them. That assumes, of course, that you have the tools and know how to get wood, the expensive and hard to get permits to do so, actually own a fireplace, and that we don’t simply run out of trees like in Haiti.
This is NOT a war on coal, this is a war on YOU. Your LIFE is at stake.
War does not determine who is right, it determines who is left.
I would like to comment about the pot shot at PG&E. If you look at a PG&E bill, you will discover less than a third of the money they bill you for actually goes to PG&E. More than half the rest is simply for taxes and fees PG&E is required to collect for federal, state, county, and city governments. The remainder is to buy the electricity they distribute – a price they have very little control over – it’s controlled by the state. Of course, what money does go to the Utility then has the normal corporate tax draw – Property tax, Income tax, etc. Though the three investor owned utilities in California effectively used to be monopolies, state and federal laws have been changed so that is only vaguely true now.
The problem I am concerned about is not that PG&E, SCE, and SDGE are being blamed for high energy costs in California. It is that it is a smoke screen to do so. The problem is the high taxes, franchise fees, and multiple competing administrative law judges forcing these utilities to appear to be robbing the public and threatening them with more penalties if they mention this to the public! (Administrative law judges decided what information may be passed to the public.)
Catcracking says: @ur momisugly June 30, 2013 at 9:29 pm
….Maybe I don’t understand what you are saying, but it is not correct that the Republicans are also pushing this green agenda in the US. It is clearly the Democratic party in the US along with their worship of the environmental and progressive agenda which allows complete control of our lives…..
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The Republicans like Fox News, and NGOs are the Controlled Opposition. They are only there to give us the illusion WE are in control and have choices. In reality a decision is made behind closed doors and then a plan devised to convince the public. If the public is not convinced, Animal ID and Bank Bailouts are good examples, it is implemented anyway and the controlled opposition is put in power but the true agenda, accumulating power and wealth for the elite always moves forward.
Thirty years ago was 1982. We have had Ronald Reagan (R) 1981, George H. W. Bush (R), Bill Clinton (D), George W. Bush (R) and now Barack Obama (D). ALL of them helped to destroy the USA by moving wealth from the poor and middle class to the elite. Reagan gave us the Leveraged Buyouts that wiped out many excellent US corporations and transfered the accumulated wealth of those companies in to the pockets of Corporate Raiders and the banks that lend them the printed to order
funnyfiat money used to place a loan on property they NEVER HAD TITLE TO IN THE FIRST PLACE. The Bushes wanted the World Trade Organization. When George W. failed Clinton picked up the ball and got it ratified. The WTO has starved third world peasants and exported first world jobs. Again the only ones who really won were the international corporations buying cheap subsidized grain in the USA and selling it bellow production cost in third world countries thereby bankrupting the local peasants. Then the international corporations moved in to exploit that newly made and desperate labor (ex-farmers) and have little to no restriction on polluting the environment from the desperate third world government.This is a well researched example of how the political class worked for the sixty years to get control of the US food supply. That goal is about to be reached within the next decade or so. WTO’s Agreement on Agriculture just exported that blue print world wide. link and link
Try reading:
How the regulating class is using bogus claims about climate change to entrench and extend their economic privileges and political control.
The US government has even removed our right “…to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
The United States Supreme Court in 1984 stated:
“Nothing in the First Amendment or in this Court’s case law interpreting it suggests that the rights to speak, associate, and petition require government policymakers to listen or respond to communications of members of the public on public issues” link
This was followed by
Oh and forget about a trial by a jury of you peers, that has also been eroded with the help of a (self-snip) Supreme Court. See older comment 1 and older comment 2
The flat earthers are out numbered by the freeloaders. So Obama has calculated correctly. Pump the money no matter how worthless it becomes.
Legatus says:
July 1, 2013 at 6:35 am
I strongly disagree with Willis on one point, that this will make electricity expensive for the poor. The way this is being done, electricity will not be more expensive, it will simply be unavailable.
I agree that what is at stake here is fundamental. The scientific method (the Arabs – Galileo – Regiomontanus – Copernicus etc..) introduced something profoundly subversive and disruptive to the “contract” of human societies and human interaction. An independent path to truth.
Why did humans evolve intelligence? It has been argued that the intellectual games we have learned to play and hoops we have learned to jump through, have developed either as sexual display (impress the lady-folk) or as a way to control other human beings. This control is exerted more by deceit – forcing on people’s consciousness a false picture of reality, than by educating people about truth. Control of human beings is most effectively achieved by generating and controlling collective fear. In this respect natural disasters have always been the most valuable currency. Why did a sabre-tooth tiger eat the chief? Why did uncle so-and-so get struck by lightning? Why did a drought starve half the group to death? The approach developed independently in all human societies has been along the lines of “we offended such and such a god, so we must give such and such a sacrifice to the appropriate representative of said god (e.g. me) …” Psychological group experiments have shown the extraordinary degree to which our behavior which we imagine to be largely free, is tightly controlled by social pressures. For instance, in a room full of people unfamiliar with each-other, no-one will even get up to leave to escape a fire if the established social leaders say that there is no problem.
Why do teachers get such low pay? Why is open and honest discussion of issues such as climate confined to blogs at the margins of socio-economic-political power? Truth is toxic to political power. Truth is a force for anarchy. Truth destabilizes and subverts the way humans control each-other.
The scientific method places in the hands of people a direct, independent path to truth unfiltered by anyone else’s control. People who like controlling other people, don’t like this. Economic empowerment of people is correlated with empowering people with knowledge and truth. It is alien and hostile and threatening to a tendency deep in our genomes to want to control what people believe, in particular what they fear, in order to control them. When people are very poor they tend to be ignorant and superstitious and easier to implant with numinous dreads leading to effective control.
Therefore regardless of what truth and science (the finding and keeping of knowledge of truth) give to society, society will always repay evil for the good that science brings. Society will always drift toward hostility toward open, transparent communication of scientific truth.
Unless, that is, we change, and decide that truth is OK and we will live with it and according to it. Humanity faces this decision and crossroads, we can all influence which way it goes. Breeding more autists (resistant to nonverbal societal pressure) will help fix the problem and prevent us evolving back to chimps. If you’re autistic – find another one and get busy!
Actively harms the poor?
That’s OK, Hillary will come out with ‘energy stamps’ for low income families in her second term, around 2022.
/sarc
Dreadnought: …250 million people in the third world have already been starved to death.
Reference, please….
Wayne Delbeke says: @ur momisugly June 30, 2013 at 9:39 pm
The World Bank will soon be redundant for financing of third world projects in any case. Obama can say what he wants but the BRICS countries are in discussion on forming their own bank for financing projects.
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Yes, the Cyprus Hair Cut really really ticked-off the Russians.
Anyone who puts their faith in a Fractional Reserve bank and a government who can change the rules as it suits them is nuts IMHO. Of course the USA has forfeiture laws that make holding onto cash “Illegal” and subject the cash to confiscation without trial or even bringing charges. link
When you start digging it is amazing just how much our rights have been eroded by the Supreme Court re-interpreting the Constitution in favor of more control by the elite.
Dave Wendt says: @ur momisugly June 30, 2013 at 9:40 pm
….Sadly, if the currently discussed plans are allowed to proceed, we may end up by the finish of the Emperor Barry era with Mao’s China as more of free market economy than the US of A.
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We are at that point already….
Makes you sick doesn’t it.
Gail Combs says:
July 1, 2013 at 7:19 am
From your comment as linked/posted:
….Most in official Washington tend to think that their elite community is smarter and better than the rest of us. Many hold a condescending view of voters and suggest that the general public is too ignorant to be treated seriously…..
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Official Washington has it right. Obama was reelected. The majority in the Senate is further evidence. Should I add to the results of this, EPA to start with? I would continue but the list would burn the servers supporting this blog.
Edohiguma says:
July 1, 2013 at 12:55 am
I have the feathers. Someone get the tar.
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Our friends in Canada have that covered or we could go really green and use Pine Tar.
Ken Hall says:
July 1, 2013 at 2:48 am
I really do hate to appear to don a tinfoil hat, but the more I see of the global elitist’s policies being enacted….
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Unfortunately you are correct.
For more info on Agenda 21:
Video
The Post Sustainability Institute
Democrats Against Agenda 21
The opposite point of view, Fearful of Agenda 21, an alleged U.N. plot, activists derail land-use planning
Background
Since then Pascal Lamy, World Trade Organization Director has come right out and said:
Articles and excerpts from/about Quigley:
excerpts from the book Tragedy and Hope A History of the World in Our Time
by Carroll Quigley, 1966
The Anglo-American Establishment by Carroll Quigley GSG Associates publishers, 1981, paperback
excerpts from the book The Naked Capitalist a review and commentary on Carroll Quigley’s book Tragedy and Hope by W. Cleon Skousen
Tragedy and Hope: A History of Banking and Money by Carroll Quigley [chapter 5]
From Carroll Quigley to the UN Millennium Summit
My uderstanding of the US coal fired generating situation under Obama’s plan is that 288 plants out of a total of 589 plants will be shut down . This represents the power production of 11 states . Where is the money coming from to finance the replacement electricity .?Ultimately this capital cost which wiil be much higher than the existing plants plus the free subsidy will find its way into the consumers electricity rate. We in Ontario are already suffering from plan somewhat similar where coal fired power plants commissioned as late as 1972/78 are being phased out prematurely and replaced by solar and wind . Our consumer electricity rates are in the process of doubling .
eyesonu says: @ur momisugly July 1, 2013 at 9:18 am
Official Washington has it right. Obama was reelected…..
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Was he??? That is also a matter up for debate.
http://obamavoterfraud.blogspot.com/
Ohio Poll Worker Who Admitted to Voting Twice for Obama Is Convicted of Voter Fraud
Officials found guilty in Obama, Clinton ballot petition fraud (Yeah, its Fox, did you really expect Huff’nPuff to carry it?)
Vote Fraud – Diebold Whistleblower Speaks Out
And this from Huff’nPuff
Diebold-SEC Fraud Settlement Reached: Former Voting Machine Maker To Pay $25 Million
More voter fraud articles at Huff’nPuff
Of course the whole system is rigged from the get go because of campaign contributions from the big corporations. The CEO of Archer Daniels Midland Co. Dwayne Andreas has made a fortune with the help of politicians from Hubert Humphrey to Bob Dole. But, he says, their talk of “free markets” is just wind.
I stumbled onto what I think is the real reason for Agenda 21, Transit Cities/Smart Growth. The reason why the elite want to herd us into closed cities.
Of course even Hope’s paltry .02C° by 2100 is extremely optimistic. Indeed, there is 0 evidence that it would have any effect at all.
What is really being proposed is that many humans must be killed off.
The validity of this website’s commenters is taken into question by the wild ad hominem attacks against Obama. He may not be a very good president, but I doubt that he is part of some insane conspiracy.