Obama's "for the children" climate change video announcement – only a few hundred views so far

AP: Obama says he’ll unveil climate plan in Tuesday speech ‘for the sake of our children’. It seems though, that the world is making a collective yawn (consensus?) so far given the views. The video has been up for several hours and has only a few hundred views and has 437 “likes” as of this writing.

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The video description says:

At 1:35 on Tuesday June 25th President Obama will speak at Georgetown University on the growing threat of climate change. He will lay out his vision of where we need to go, to do what we can to address and prepare for the serious implications of a changing climate. Tune in at whitehouse.gov/live

This quote from the video makes me laugh and angry at the same time:

“We’ll need scientists to design new fuels and farmers to grow them,” he said. “We’ll need engineers to devise new sources of energy and businesses to make and sell them.”

The hell with “new fuels and farmers to grow them”, biofuels are low return on investment and raise the cost of our food supply; just get a Thorium reactor program started. The technology has been around for years, and the Chinese are already headed down that path.

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Kevin Kilty

The Presidents views and strategies on almost every topic are rehashed 1970s leftist claptrap, except for surveillance where he is up to date with the Chinese and Iranians.

willybamboo

Carbon Pollution? Carbon Dioxide is not a pollutant. I can’t believe they get away with that sort of language. Pollutant and Pollution become meaningless words if they are applied to atmospheric carbon dioxide.

stan stendera

Biofuel kills innocent people. How would you like to be an Asian Mother watching her child starve because the manufacture of biofuel has so raised the cost of food that your meager income can no longer cover subsistence food. There is no circle in Dante’s Hell COLD enough for those who advocate biofuel.

They the (US) have land for food or land for energy but not enough for both, unless they destroy whats left of the natural environment.

Obama: “There’s no single step that can reverse the effects of climate change, But when it comes to the world we leave our children, we owe it to them to do what we can.”
.”.. and what I can do is spend $100 million taxpayer dollars and generate 1000+ ton carbon footprint for my family vacation I start tomorrow. I’ve cut out the safari… we all have to make sacrifices. You all save the planet while I’m gone.”
His timing on this is so spectacularly bad, the jokes will be brutal.
See also: March 17, 2013 Obama By-Passes Gas”

If Obama cared for our children, he wouldn’t saddle them with a huge national debt.

The “301” views is an artifact of the way youtube works. It’ll stick there for awhile, then bump up to whatever the real number is.
In any event, though, it’s clear people are not exactly flocking to it.

a jones

Oh dear what to say.
There is a second law of thermodynamics.
Where do these people get their ideas?
And serious but curious people often ask me as a physicist and engineer with much experience in nuclear power why I do not support a new nuclear thrust to meet a supposed energy shortage.
And indeed I am sometimes offered lucrative contracts to help develop a new generation of nuclear power. There are not many of us left you see.
My reply is No. Why? because fossils fuels are so abundant and cheap they are all that is required at the moment.
perhaps in a hundred years we will need to consider other options. But who knows how technology will have advanced by then.
But otherwise coal, natural gas and oil will see us through for a few generations.
Kindest Regards

Phillip Bratby

It’s well known that Governments pick losing technologies. Here we go again.

u.k.(us)

Umm, the man is a product of the Chicago/Illinois political machine.
Need I say more ?

To paraphrase Rumsfeld’s famous contribution to English lexicon, there are idiots who know that they are idiots, and there are idiots who don’t. The ones that don’t are most harmful. Obama doesn’t know. And we all are going to pay for this for a long, hard time to come.

Matt

You don’t understand how Youtube works:

Now you do 😉

Captain Ozone

@u.k.(us)
Plus, the man is a muslim-raised avowed Marxist, bent on destroying democracy and capitalism as we know it.

Doesn’t mean anything necessarily.
YouTube often freezes the like count and updates it periodically. To update every single like for every video in real time would be a massive server burden, impacting performance.

I mean, it takes the NSA to have that kind of capability.

a dood

2014 can’t come soon enough.

It’s back scratching time.
I’m sure the deals really got sweetened through 501c(4) organizations where donors aren’t revealed. Get a donation declaration open secrets.org can look at and most people probably think that’s all there is to it. When the real money (70%) can go without a name on it that the public can see.
I didn’t have time to track much of the $2.6+ billion, but saw a couple million from Robertson and Walton.
http://m.edf.org/people
http://m.edf.org/people/board-of-trustees

Ian H

Putting this on WUWT will send the views skyrocketing!….kinda counter productive really…

Steve C

The only thing it’s necessary to say about “the growing threat of climate change”, Mr. President, is that none of the threat comes from the climate and all of it comes from increasingly shrill and desperate politicians. Stop Climate Change – Abolish Politicians Now!

DaveF

Alexander Feht June 22 10:26pm:
“He who knows not, and knows not that he knows not, is a fool: shun him;
He who knows not, and knows that he knows not, is simple: teach him;
He who knows, and knows not that he knows, is asleep: waken him;
He who knows, and knows he knows, is wise: follow him.”

Billy

It’s hard to fail solving a non-existent problem with a non-existent solution.

Rob

Since there is now no “Climate Chagne” left to fight???

TomRude

“He will lay out his vision…”
He’ll lay a square egg in a great moment of solitude.

Paul Westhaver

Call me cynical…
Obama must be completely deluded. What was he thinking, if at all?
Don’t pay any attention to
1) the invasion of your privacy, the reading of your emails, the tapping of your phones
2) the use of the IRS to crush his political enemies,
3) The Bengazi cover-up
4) The Fast and Furious debacle,
5) The attack on religious freedom,
6) The use of the EPA to attack businesses of political enemies,
7) The use of email aliases to conceal nefarious activity,
8) The attempt to circumvent the 2nd Amendment,
9) The explosion of food stamps,
10) the rise in the chronically unemployed population
11) and on and on and etc…..
Just pay attention to carbon credits…
He would be laughable if he hadn’t 44% approval.

David L.

Obama: “to save the planet I’ll need to raise taxes on y’all to give to my scientist friends to conduct studes that will tell me I need to raise taxes on y’all. Meanwhile I’ll be golfing and/or on an exotic vacation”
Neat how that works.

Neville.

What an embarrassment to the USA this donkey is, almost as big a fool as OZ’s Gillard. Mitigation is the greatest con and fraud experienced for the last 100+ years. There is zero the OECD can do about the climate or temp even if we all believe 100% in CAGW.
By 2035 the OECD will increase co2 emissions by just 6% but the non OECD will increase emissions by a whopping 73% and starting from a much higher base. Just look up the EIA projections.
Every billion then trillions will be flushed down the drain forever for a guaranteed zero return for the climate and temp.
Certainly Anthony’s proper choice of new nuclear technology won’t make a scrap of difference. Christy has done the maths on building 1000 new nukes and the impact by 2100 is SFA. What is it about these simple sums that these numbskulls can’t understand?

pat

nothing partisan about this. there are lots of interested parties:
Wikipedia: Biofuel in the United States
Since 2005 the US overtook Brazil as the world’s largest ethanol producer. In 2006 the US produced 4.855 billion US gallons (18.38×10^6 m3) of ethanol. The United States, together with Brazil accounted for 70 percent of all ethanol production, with total world production of 13.5 billion US gallons (51×10^6 m3) (40 million metric tons). When accounting just for fuel ethanol production in 2007, the U.S. and Brazil are responsible for 88% of the 13.1 billion US gallons (50×10^6 m3) total world production. Biodiesel is commercially available in most oilseed-producing states…
According to the Renewable Fuels Association, the ethanol industry created almost 154,000 U.S. jobs in 2005 alone, boosting household income by $5.7 billion. It also contributed about $3.5 billion in tax revenues at the local, state, and federal levels. On the other hand, in 2010, the industry received $6.646 billion in federal support (not counting state and local support)…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biofuel_in_the_United_States

Athelstan.

Quem deus vult perdere, dementat prius.
“Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad”
All megalomaniacs gradually degenerate into extreme delusional schizoid psychosis. Mad indeed but the problem is, in the meantime it means trouble and always great economic pain for the nation.

Peter Miller

In this the 15th year of the Carbon Inquisition, the great illusionist said: “………..

William Astley

It appears climate ‘change’ can be used to justify green insanity. ‘Green’ policy excludes logic and reason. If the objective is to fight climate ‘change’ then fudged analysis can be used to justify green scams. Actual costs, impact on the economy and impact on the environment does not matter.
The EU is leading the Western countries off an economic cliff. Obama is proposing to use the power of EPA legislation to follow the EU off of the economic cliff by subsidizing and mandating green scams. An example is the EU and US mandates that a percentage of all transportation fuel shall be biofuel. Unfortunately if unbiased economic and engineering analysis is done (including all energy inputs, including fertilizer, and including the need to cut down virgin forest to make up for the loss of agricultural land to grow the food to convert to biofuel) the conversion of food to biofuel increasing the amount of CO2 emitted as opposed to burning ‘fossil’ fuel.
In addition to no reduction in CO2 emissions there is the problem the practice increases the cost of food for people and will lead to food wars, if it not stopped. … ….As there is a fixed amount land for human agriculture and there are strong farm lobbies in every Western country and there are lucrative subsides for the madness, a large amount of Western farm land is being used to grow food to convert to biofuel which results in a net loss of food for people that must be made up for either by starving people in third world countries or cutting down virgin forest. For example 40% of the US corn crop is now converted to ethanol.
EPA’s RFS accounting shows corn ethanol today is worse than gasoline
http://plevin.berkeley.edu/docs/Plevin-Comments-on-final-RFS2-v7.pdf
http://www.senseandsustainability.net/2012/01/26/scrapping-corn-ethanol-subsidies-for-a-smarter-biofuels-policy/
From its first appearance in 1978 to this past December 31st, the policy provided over $20 billion in subsidies to American ethanol producers, costing the U.S. taxpayer almost $6 billion in 2011 alone. Enacted in the spirit of “energy independence,” ethanol subsidies became a redoubt for the agricultural lobby and a lighting rod for criticism from environmentalists and sustainability advocates … ….To add to the environmental cost of U.S. corn ethanol is the potential of its expanded production to raise global food prices, potentially increasing the likelihood of social unrest and instability worldwide. Some 40 percent of the American corn crop is now distilled into fuel, and The Economist has estimated that if that amount of corn were used as food instead, global food supplies of corn would grow by 14 percent. Both the U.S. Government Accountability Office and the U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization have noted the positive link between U.S. corn ethanol production and rising corn prices. Because of America’s position as the leading corn producer and the status of Chicago-traded corn prices as a benchmark for global ones, the U.S. can have an outsize impact on worldwide food prices. Indeed, corn prices have more than tripled in the last ten years, in no small part due to the ethanol boom.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1725975,00.html
The Clean Energy Scam
The U.S. quintupled its production of ethanol–ethyl alcohol, a fuel distilled from plant matter–in the past decade, and Washington has just mandated another fivefold increase in renewable fuels over the next decade. Europe has similarly aggressive biofuel mandates and subsidies, and Brazil’s filling stations no longer even offer plain gasoline. Worldwide investment in biofuels rose from $5 billion in 1995 to $38 billion in 2005 and is expected to top $100 billion by 2010, thanks to investors like Richard Branson and George Soros, GE and BP, Ford and Shell, Cargill and the Carlyle Group.
But several new studies show the biofuel boom is doing exactly the opposite of what its proponents intended: it’s dramatically accelerating global warming, imperiling the planet in the name of saving it. Corn ethanol, always environmentally suspect, turns out to be environmentally disastrous. Even cellulosic ethanol made from switchgrass, which has been promoted by eco-activists and eco-investors as well as by President Bush as the fuel of the future, looks less green than oil-derived gasoline. … ….Meanwhile, by diverting grain and oilseed crops from dinner plates to fuel tanks, biofuels are jacking up world food prices and endangering the hungry. The grain it takes to fill an SUV tank with ethanol could feed a person for a year. Harvests are being plucked to fuel our cars instead of ourselves. The U.N.’s World Food Program says it needs $500 million in additional funding and supplies, calling the rising costs for food nothing less than a global emergency. Soaring corn prices have sparked tortilla riots in Mexico City, and skyrocketing flour prices have destabilized Pakistan, which wasn’t exactly tranquil when flour was affordable.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2008-04-14/biofuel-production-a-crime-against-humanity/2403402
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/313699/news/world/singapore-demands-action-from-indonesia-on-haze
The illegal burning of forest on Indonesia’s Sumatra island, to the west of Singapore, to clear land for palm oil plantations is a chronic problem, particularly during the June to September dry season.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22998592
http://www.greenpeace.org.uk/forests/palm-oil
Biodiesel fuelling palm oil expansion

Chris @NJSnowFan

Now it is “threat of climate change”
He is on the right page with that.
WTF happened to everything he has been saying up to this point like the world has warmed faster then predicted, climate change is happening NOW and faster then predicted.
Now it is “Threat of Climate Change”
The puppet masters are working hard but Threat of climate change and Carbon Tax is not going to go over well with the public.

Mark Luhman

stuart L Says
“They the (US) have land for food or land for energy but not enough for both, unless they destroy whats left of the natural environment.”
That is so much clap trap: we have ample land for farming with plenty oil and gas in the ground. All of which can be used with little damage to the environment. Modern oil and gas extraction if far cleaner than it was even thirty years ago, The on site waste pits are gone, water is being treated right on the drill sight so it can be reused, they are looking at using waste gas to generate electricity right on the pad, and they can now drill up to six wells from one pad. They (the evil oil companies) are even looking at waterless fracking.
As to farming land that use to produce 25 bushels of wheat can now produce double of that. The use of minimal till has cut soil erosive way down. The amount of land being tilled is dropping not increasing. We presently have more forest than we did just one hundred years ago.
If you want to see the real America I suggest you drive US highway 83 from Texas to North Dakota and then drive US highway 85 back. You will drive through the two top producing wheat states, Kanus and North Dakota, The first and second oil producing states, Texas and North Dakota, I beleive Texas is the number on electricty produce and North Dakota is fourth. North Dakota farms produce sugar, sunflowers, barley, soy beans, and dry beans.
When you drive those highways you will see some of the lonesome areas as well as some of the most productive areas. The The strange thing about it they are only a hundred apart, Harding county in South Dakota is empty less that on hundred miles away McKenzie Count in North Dakota is booming, Highway 85 in McKenzie county is like I40 in Arizona except 85 is only two lanes. There are place on both 83 and 85 that cell coverage is non existent and they are others where all you see is miles of tilled fields. There is few large cities on either, most towns on either route are small. I will caution you though on 83 and 85 in North Dakota don’t dawdle since some oil truck will run you over.
Yet even with oil development North Dakota still has a population density of less than four people per square mile. To some of the long time residents of North Dakota do consider that somewhat crowded. And if you wonder down to Harding county in south Dakota is there is less than .5 people per square mile even with that some people in that area consider that a bit crowded.
If you would only venture away from the coasts you soon learn that most of America is vast and empty. There is still plenty of free and open spaces, all though they are getting harder to see since the greenies are putting up huge no trespassing signs in the for of having vast areas declared wilderness areas. Closing long standing roads and restricting long time resident access to those areas.
No the treat to our wild area are the armchair environmentalist they seem to think neglect is the way to preserve something, instead it leads to moonscape environment after large uncontrolled wild fires run through fragile western forest and brush areas. What they fail to understand is most ecosystem have been change irrevocably due to the introduction of invasive species, and fire and logging restriction allow those invasive spices thrive. That only leads to unnatural fuel loads so when fire a natural part of a large number of ecosystems come to those ecosystems it is devastation to all. Road closures inhibit proper management invasive spices that now inhabit such ecosystems so when fire does come it is devastating to the natural spices, lastly road closures denies firefighter access those ecosystems when the fire does come, road closures allow small fires to balloon to large uncontrolled ones.

Anthony: Totally agree with you on the development of the thorium-fuelled LFTR reactor. Kirk Sorensen and his private Flibe Energy company have been working on and promoting the LFTR reactor with all its advatanges for some time now (www.energyfromthorium.com). And for some time now I have been promoting the idea of phasing out our fossil fuel plants with nuclear plants like LFTR so that our coal and natural gas supplies can be freed up. The freed up coal and natural gas supplies could then be used in gas-to-liquid and coal-to-liquid plants to further reduce our crude oil imports (and maybe someday eliminate them). I would think that the excess heat from LFTRs could be used for this purpose. It is said that we have enough thorium reserves here in the U.S. to possibly last us for a millenium if not longer.
Furthermore, LFTRs can be used for saltwater desalination along our coastlines (especially in Texas with its drought problems…we should have built desalination plants along Texas’ coast a long time ago).
LFTRs can be used to draw down and eliminate our plutonium by-products from existing reactors to generate electricity (LFTRs will need plutonium for startup). Plutonium is a nuclear fuel for reactors like LFTR, not waste. It is just sickening to watch China develeping LFTR for use in their country when it is a nuclear technology that WE created and tested for ourselves at ORNL back in the late 1960s. Nixon stupidly pulled the plug on it for political reasons in the early 1970s.
It is bad enough that Obama has the CAGW issue totally wrong, not to mention all the scandals. Now as he couples it with bad energy policy as well (biofuels, wind, solar), it demonstrates how this president totally has his head up his derriere. God help this nation as we desperately struggle with this idiot for three and a half more years.

Allan M

To plagiarise:
The Earth has a cancer, and the cancer is the environmental movement. (and those behind it.)
No apology is offered to the Club of Rome.

stan stendera

More about biofuel. In Indonesia many acres of jungle are being burned. So many that the smoke and smog is affecting the air quality in Singapore. The reason for the wonton destruction is to convert those areas to palm plantations to produce palm oil biofuel. This process completely ignores what is known about slash and burn agriculture. Jungles have very thin layers of topsoil. When this thin layer is depleted what will be left is barren moonscape. Which is why slash and burn agriculture continually moves to new areas. What the biofuel zealots are advocating is only advanced slash and burn. Slash and burn is well know to be a destructive agricultural practice. The ecofascists are destroying the ecology in the name of what??

DennisA

Look at the message they have got out to the developing world, this article is from Bangladesh:
http://www.thefinancialexpress-bd.com/index.php?ref=MjBfMDZfMjNfMTNfMV82XzE3Mzk0Mg==
“Global warming has subjected Bangladesh to an increasingly frequent and erratic pattern of floods, cyclones, droughts, colossal tidal surges along its southern coasts and unreasonable high level of monsoon rainfall causing landslides and heavy river erosions while absence of seasonal rain in the north causing desertification.”
“Bangladesh may lose one-third of its landmass due to the rise of sea level, which is the direct outcome of climate change. The impacts of higher temperatures and sea-level rise are already felt.”
“Money to combat climate change is not enough and rich countries should feel obliged to offer assistance to Bangladesh which is facing devastating disasters, occurring for no fault of its own. The world should not stay indifferent when the country is poised to go under the sea.”
“The country especially needs help from those rich nations whose carbon emissions have created the problems and they should also be prepared to open their doors to millions of Bangladeshis who will become climate refugees.
Given these realities, the donors should spontaneously come forward to help Bangladesh’s efforts to combat the fallout of manmade climate change. It is important to remind them that climate funding was largely seen as a compensation for the industrial excesses of the west over the past century and the traditional donor-recipient formula was not acceptable under these circumstances.”

Mark Beeunas

The primary fuels we have were provide by Mother Nature, and she did the dirty work for us millions and billions of years ago. The energy provided in hydrocarbon fuels are the result of photosynthesis from solar energy and for nuclear fuels from supernovae.
To “design new fuels” from whole cloth will be an environmental disaster many times anything realized from the production of our current primary fuels.
It took 100’s of millions of years and millions of cubic kilometers of ocean water, and photosynthesis to deposit 100’s to 1000’s of feet of organic rich sediments in basins across the globe. These organic rich sediments where then buried by solar energy. Yes, solar energy evaporated the water from the seas and lifted it 10,000 plus feet into the mountains and the rains formed river that carried the sediments to the oceans and deeply burial the organic layers. Then, energy from supernovae in the form of radioactive decay of uranium, thorium and potassium heating the interior of the Earth pyrolyzed the deeply buried organic matter to form liquid and gaseous hydrocarbons, and coal.
So, the scale of production (e.g. land area, water volumes, farm produced organic matter, etc.) needed to make these newly design fuels that would replace any significant fraction of the ~500 quadrillion Btu’s that is consumed yearly, will make an oil refinery look like a nature preserve.

I loathe with an absolute passion propoganda aimed at children. I don’t care if anyone finds this view extreme once you start to politicise children, even with the very best of intentions, you are on a very slippery slope.
To look at the concept of this video, I ask why? Are the children paying the taxes? Is Obama going to tax pocket money? No. There an only be one motive for a video such as this and that is pure propoganda, to place the views of the state above the views of the individual, in this case the parents paying the taxes, whose views on these taxes make them appear to put self before “necessary” sacrifices to “save the planet”.
What will be the next video produced, to be aimed at children? Probably films of staged atrocities committed in some foreign country, justifying Obama’s policy of invasion? I sincerely hope not!
If Obama looked at some old films of Josef Goebells visiting schools and recruitment programmes for the Hitler Youth, he might have some idea what I am talking about. At the time, that seemed like good innocent fun too!

SAMURAI

Oh goody… Let’s take more printed money and incinerate it solar furnaces, shred it with wind turbines and ferment what’s left in corn stills….”For the children’s sake”… I can’t wait…
Had we taken the $100’s of billions of taxpayer/printed money that have been incinerated, shredded and fermented on “alternate” energy boondoggles and spent PRIVATE sector money building Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactors, the US would have been 100% energy independent by now with energy costing 50% less, grain prices would be much lower, industrial production would have flooded to our shores to take advantage of the cheapest energy on the planet, oh, and not that it matters, CO2 emissions would be about 50% less.
As a side benefit, we could have flicked the Middle East the bird and say, “ya’ll work your out your collapse amongst yourselves, we don’t need your frigging oil.”
The big-government elites have other agendas that takes precedence over logical market-driven solutions, so we’re stuck incinerating, fermenting, shredding more printed money while those insane agendas are brought to fruition.
This death spiral of incompetence and political elite agendas will continue as long as gigantic elitist governments and crony crapitalism (as opposed to free-market capitalism) control our managed destruction.

klem

Over the past few weeks in Canada the news media has been crowing that Obamas’ Brandenburg gate speech would draw at least 200,000 people. It drew about 5000. The media in Canada are worse Obama lapdogs that the American media, if that is conceivable. There has been little reporting about Obama’s string of scandals in Canada, its like they have thier head in the sand, in Canada Obama can do no wrong. We’ll see how the Canadian news media handles this upcoming climate speech on Tuesday. No matter how bad it is, Canadian news outlets will let him off the hook and continue to embarrass themselves by fawning over his every word.
BTW, isn’t Tuesday considered the funniest day of the week?

DaveF,
How do I shun a fool who points a gun at my head, and has his hand in my pocket?

Stephen Richards

The puppet masters are working hard but Threat of climate change and Carbon Tax is not going to go over well with the public
As I keep saying, 97% of all people are thick as two short planks, totally uneducated morons who can be lead by the ring in the nose without complaining. Oblarny knows that if you promise them money they will vote for anything and anyone.

Chris @NJSnowFan

Prices of puzzle all together now, Carbon Tax (scam) coming soon if Obama and the democrRATS get their way.
Electricity rates to skyrocket and Everything else will with them.
Every time you pay future electric bill a solar panel on a house or building will come to mind. Carbon Tax (scam) is a ploy to make electricity rates go up so tax credits, subsidiaries can continue. Obama thinks higher rates will push people to install solar but the the middle and lower class will feel more pain in their wallets because most can not afford to install them.
Carbon Tax (scams) will be imposed on everything if the first one is imposed on power plants.
http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/06/22/obama-to-announce-tuesday-he-will-regulate-existing-power-plants-as-part-of-climate-strategy/
People need to contact congressmen and Say NO to any Carbon Taxes (Scams)!!!!

Mike McMillan

I’ve never been a fan of affirmative action.

Mark H

The most ridiculous thing I have ever seen or heard.This is the president yes,not a Monty Python stand in.

Stan, what you say just confirms the illogicality of AGW, slash and burn natural atmospheric CO2 removers, to pump more CO2 into the atmosphere, then plant crops that are totally useless to the indigenous population, which will eventually fail due to the thin layer of soil, pumping more CO2 into the atmoshere!
You couldn’t make it up!

Scarface

From the Huffington Post:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/21/indonesia-fires_n_3479727.html
“Palm oil companies are suspected of illegally starting widespread forest fires in Indonesia in order to clear land for palm oil plantations, Indonesian officials say. The fires have caused record levels of hazardous smog in neighboring Singapore since Wednesday.”
“A staple for cooking throughout Southeast Asia and elsewhere, palm oil is the single largest traded vegetable oil commodity in the world, and global demand is rising rapidly, the U.S. Department of Agriculture says. The oil is increasingly used in the manufacture of cosmetics, soaps, pharmaceuticals and industrial products. It is also used to make biodiesel fuel.”
How in the world is it possible that so called green organizations like Greenpeace and WWF call CO2 a pollutant and promote and/or don’t question the legal and illegal burning of their once almost sacred rainforests? And meanwhile attack fracking and promote biodiesel?
The only green they nowadays like is the greenback I guess. And now they get an endorsement from your President to continue with their cynical and malicious propaganda.
I was hoping Climategate 3 would deliver the final nail to the coffin of CAGW, but so far it has been deafining silent. Is their anything to mention about the status of CG3?

mwhite

“Palm-oil firms are accused of using slash-and-burn agricultural techniques to clear space for plantations.”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-23016462
Palm oil used to make biodiesel
http://www.palmoilworld.org/biodiesel.html

janama

Here in Australia KFC has recently stopped using Palm Oil and have switched to canola oil – apparently it was a part of the distinctive taste of KFC.

Kevin Kilty said;
“The Presidents views and strategies on almost every topic are rehashed 1970s leftist claptrap, except for surveillance where he is up to date with the Chinese and Iranians.”
We knew you were going to say that. Our educators will be around shortly to have a friendly chat with you.
tonyb