Craig Rucker of CFACT writes:
You’d be surprised at what they don’t know at the UN climate conference in Bonn.
Then again, maybe you wouldn’t.
Although the evidence keeps mounting up, most of the delegates in Bonn are unaware that there had been no warming for 16 years.
Watch CFACT’s latest video update from Bonn and see for yourself.
CFACT’s Mission Bonn is your eyes, ears and voice at the UN climate talks and at the ICLEI forum.
- ICLEI wants to bring UN Agenda 21 to your town.
- The UN wants a binding climate treaty signed in Paris by 2015.
- The Obama administration has vowed to put the brakes on the U.S. economy in the name of climate with, or without, Congress.
We have much more to report on these crucial developments and the threat they pose to the United States and the free world.
source: http://cfact.org
My first thought was that about the guy working at UEA on his masters – IMHO it was someone just like him 4 years ago who saw the bull going on in CRU and created what we know as Climategate.
Whoever you are, thank you for changing the discourse!
Steve Garcia
It pains me to see that the only one in the video who actually stated that it ‘wasn’t true’, was from my own country, Australia. Most of the others just expressed plain surprise and ignorance. In other words, the Australian delegate is the most wrong of all of them, and perhaps reveals she likely receives the most spin doctored, local propaganda.
This, perhaps reflects the current deep level of corruption and distortion within Australian science and the Australian intellectual community in general. For whatever reasons, a significant part of the Australian intellectual establishment has gone over to propaganda, plain lies, and can no longer tell what is true, from what isn’t. You also see this in the appalling state of the current government, in terms of finances, policy-particularly environmental policy, common sense, or just about anything else.
I don’t know why this is the case, that Australia seems to be particularly out of touch with common sense and reality, but it shows that being a wealthy country doesn’t necessarily translate to having good environmental understanding and policy, and possibly not a good feel on science in general, due in large part perhaps to the many self-serving careerists who establish themselves within the scientific and intellectual community.
Perhaps another reason is that technically, and in part culturally, Australia is still a British colony. If a mediocre calibre, public service-minded Brit wants to establish his/her career in Australia, there is amply opportunity to do so. In some ways, Australia tends to get the leftovers and lower quality intellectuals and bureaucrats that can’t get ahead in the UK. The same wealth that creates a lucky country also creates a bloated bureaucracy, compounded by the fact that this same bureaucracy is still technically an arm of the British empire. So one gets a lot of serf-serving public service officials and academics who want to be part of a lucrative, laid back lifestyle in a lucky country, spinning their own self delusions, and immersing themselves in a privileged, laid back, taxpayer funded lifestyle, where they can pat each other on the back on their moral righteousness and moral superiority.
This public service mentality of course happens everywhere, but I suspect that it’s a bit more prevalent in Australia, because of the fact that we are still partly mired in British colonialism. And so the delegate at the conference says she has “heard” that the fact that temperatures haven’t warmed for 16 years “isn’t true”, is just likely just repeating some well-doctored local propaganda from another self-serving career bureaucrat, which unfortunately is all too common in Australia at the moment.
Not sure why the word “Humor:” is in the title. I watched the clip and it really didn’t make me laugh.
The posts of the last few days give me hope that reason will triumph.
Richard P. Feynman had it right many years ago.
Yes, ‘Climate’ is a theory.
Yes, ‘Climate Change’ is a theory.
Yes, ‘Global Warming’ is a theory.
Yes, ‘Anthropogenic Global Warming’ is a theory.
Yes, ‘Carbon Anthropogenic Global Warming’ is a Theory.
In the fall of 1978 I asked a Mathematician what is the easiest way to disprove a theorem (theory).
He told me then; paraphrase, ‘find the ‘counter example.’
In the course of a few hours we are now reading many of the ‘counter examples.’
However, keep in mind that the IPCC as the UN are NOT a scientific organization !
Never the less I posit.
The IPCC is the ‘Bismarck’, the UN is the German High Command, and WE are the Hood, Prince of Wales followed by Manchester, Birmingham, and Arethusa then Rodney, Revenge, Ramillies, King George V and Victorious.
Oh ! What a Grand Chase and sinking is at hand !
😀
William Astley says:
June 6, 2013 at 4:25 pm
In reply to:
“The Obama administration has vowed to put the brakes on the U.S. economy in the name of climate with, or without, Congress.”
William: Fortunately the US is a democracy as opposed to dictatorship. If Obama tries to circumvent the checks and balances in the US constitution he will be impeached.
++++++++
William –I appreciate your positive notion regarding the US. However, Obama has already circumvented checks and balances many times… and I have yet to see him impeached. Our country is in a downward spiral due to non critical thinking sheeple.
However, I do not want anyone to get the idea that I don’t love my country. I still get emotional when I hear and sing the national anthem… and it annoys me to no end when young people or some older one refuse to or do not know better to remove their hates, put their right hand over their heart and face the flag when it’s sung. To think what our previous generations fought for, and how it’s come to this is torture to me –and probably many others here on WUWT.
“I know I’m getting older, but who the hell thought a bunch of college kids were qualified to meet and make any recommendations (much less decisions) involving trillions of dollars. In the commercial world, you would almost never see people this age involved in such decisions; these kinds of folks might be allowed to sit and observe decisions made be people old enough to have seen a variety of mistakes and thus proceed with caution – aware of what they might wreck with their decisions.”
Think about the Russian revolution and Mao’s use of kids in his culture revolution, red brigade or something like that? Young men will gladly kill anybody if you program them correctly?
Thingodonta says: “Perhaps another reason is that technically, and in part culturally, Australia is still a British colony.” I cannot deny that Australia is to a very large extent, culturally British, though of course that does not make us a cultural British Colony. Rather, both the UK and Australia derive our cultures from the past, and these have diverged from a common heritage. So we have ‘sister’ or ‘cousin’ British cultures. Very acceptable.
“Technically?” No way. Australia has been an independent nation since Jan 1 1901, though there were some links to the UK which were finally removed in 1988, when Elizabeth II was proclaimed Queen of Australia. She is the only remaining link but this does not in any way, technically or otherwise, make us a “British colony”. We have both our own Head of State, the Governor-General, and a Queen, Elizabeth II, so we are doing pretty well, in spite of the current Government, which we are all hoping will disappear into the history books on September 14 as a prime example of what not to do, how not to run a government. And back on track, when Parliament meets after the electoral process is completed, the repeal of the various Carbon Tax Acts should begin.
“To think what our previous generations fought for, and how it’s come to this is torture to me –and probably many others here on WUWT.” [Mario]
Me, too.
There are many aspects and one of them is to use climate and the environment to make a sort of culture revolution in the Western world?
“…”tis a consummation devoutly to be wish’d. ”
[With apologies to Shakespeare.]
“in spite of the current Government, which we are all hoping will disappear into the history books on September 14 as a prime example of what not to do, how not to run a government.”
Though I have no doubt that the successor will provide an equally instructive, if somewhat different, example of the same thing.
Jon: You raise an interesting dynamic
It’s really sad that AGW convoluted the outcomes of so many conversations or ideas concerning real environment concerns. The AGW meme is used to get people to panic into allowing government to kill energy to save the environment, the climate and our children. All while delivering things that make all of the aforementioned problems worse! The EPA flat out lies about CO2 being pollution. There is so much duplicty that nothing good has come of the AGW movement.
I have NO problem with reasonable controls to benefit the environment. However, try to have a cogent discussion with people in environmental arenas and you find dumb-ass mal informed minions. I lose any interest in dealing with ANYONE who starts a discussion about the environment when they bring in carbon emissions, global warming and climate change.
On nuclear sites, when people want to promote nuclear because it reduces greenhouse gases I chime in and call foul! Nuclear can stand on its own merits without the AGW meme.
The point is, that just like Obama has done with race relations in our country (and you know what I mean), AGW divides people –preventing any hope of real progress with good reasonable outcomes.
@ur momisugly Master_Of_Puppets
“The IPCC is the ‘Bismarck’, the UN is the German High Command, and WE are the Hood, Prince of Wales followed by Manchester, Birmingham, and Arethusa then Rodney, Revenge, Ramillies, King George V and Victorious.”
I’d rather not be the Hood, if you don’t mind.
In New Zealand the left wing state broadcasting company (TVNZ) doesn’t hesitate to broadcast ‘Green Party’ and UN propaganda.
They will (While having problems with spelling, grammar and the truth and lacking even the most basic research skills) broadcast any rubbish spouted by left wing organisations to advance their causes.
Here Christiana Figueres of the UN tells New Zealand to sign up to sign up to a binding greenhouse gas emissions target.
Climate change is set to cause more extreme weather events in future and the UN is warning New Zealand will not be immune.
“If climate action is not accelerated you know that New Zealand faces threats from extreme weather events, rising sea levels, drought that effects [sc] agriculture.”
http://tvnz.co.nz/politics-news/un-presses-nz-set-emissions-reduction-target-5457587
(Article and video)
Well done CFACT!, please consider supporting these guys
http://cfact.com/donate/
Charles Gerard Nelson (June 6, 2013 at 5:12 pm) says:
This is a bit like walking round the General Synod of the Church of England asking the clerics if they’ve heard the news that God doesn’t actually exist!
Except the 16 year pause in warming is actually provable using the alarmist’s own data. It is not just an opinion on a conjecture that is unprovable and outside the realm of Science.
I hope the woman from Australia was put right when she said she had ‘heard that they were wrong’ Unless she is acknowledging that the Met Office are wrong ?
If you ever needed proof that these people have been living in their own reality bubble then this is it!
Not surprised at UEA since after all their best known and respected department is creative writing with a record of success in al areas.
sorry about the typo. Oh for an edit function.
Ph.D. Guy says:
June 6, 2013 at 4:32 pm
“Useful idiots” – Lenin
“Some people never know” – McCartney.
David Cage says:
June 7, 2013 at 12:27 am
sorry about the typo. Oh for an edit function.
——————————————————————————————————
Edith funcktions arr oferratet.
Quick question for commenters here: point out one global temperature dataset that has not shown warming over the past 16 years.
While there arguably hasn’t been statistically significant warming over the last 16 years, depending on the data set and error model you use, thats not the same as saying there has been no warming over that period.
The thing that stands out to me is that they are all kids, of the still wet behind the ears variety.
Aren’t there any grown up supervising these jamborees?
Thanks for the set-up line, Zeke. The globe is cooling, folks; for how long even kim doesn’t know.
============