From the GWPF and Dr. Benny Peiser
Tim Yeo: We Are All Climate Sceptics Now
Humans May Not Be Responsible For Global Warming Says Committee Chairman
Humans may not be responsible for global warming, the MP who oversees government policy on climate change has said. Tim Yeo, the chairman of the Commons Energy and Climate Change committee, said he accepts the earth’s temperature is increasing but said “natural phases” may be to blame. He said: “Although I think the evidence that the climate is changing is now overwhelming, the causes are not absolutely clear. There could be natural causes, natural phases that are taking place.” Mr Yeo has previously spoken with great certainty about the science of climate change. He said in 2009: “The dying gasps of the deniers will be put to bed. In five years time, no one will argue about a man-made contribution to climate change.” –Matthew Holehouse, The Daily Telegraph, 29 May 2013
As part of Germany’s switch to renewables, industry has been exempt from paying higher prices associated with solar and wind energy. The European Commission, however, believes the practice distorts competition on the Continent. Huge penalties could be in store. Energy-intensive industry, which plays an important role in the German industrial landscape, threatens to be “driven out of the country.” The controversial law, with its billions in subsidies for green electricity, could hardly survive in its current form. —Spiegel Online, 29 May 2013
We can be sure that whatever proposals China makes will be all about the best possible economic growth path for China. Reducing global CO2 emissions is not a goal of the Chinese government. Fans of global carbon treaty fans are desperate for good news, having watched their pet issue move from the front pages at the time of the Copenhagen summit to the obscure back pages of the specialist journals. (How many people followed the recently concluded Bonn edition of the global climate talks?). This news out of China will be used to try to pump up the publicity machine, but a serious CO2 treaty remains a no-hoper. –Walter Russell Mead, Via Meadia, 28 May 2013
The $77 billion solar industry is facing a quality crisis just as solar panels are on the verge of widespread adoption. A review of 30,000 installations in Europe by the German solar monitoring firm Meteocontrol found 80 percent were underperforming. –Todd Woody, The New York Times, 29 May 2013
The number of households insulating their homes has dramatically fallen this year, threatening to torpedo the Government’s energy efficiency drive and push utility bills even higher. According to industry figures obtained by The Times, cavity wall insulation was fitted in 1,138 homes last month, compared with almost 40,000 in April last year. The slump underlines the lack of consumer interest in the Government’s Green Deal programme, which ministers have billed as the biggest home improvement programme since the Second World War. –Tim Webb, The Times, 29 May 2013
The UK and Germany are among four EU member states whose emissions from fossil fuel combustion are expected to have risen over 2012, despite the bloc seeing an average drop in CO2 output. New estimates from EU statistics agency Eurostat suggest UK CO2 emissions last year climbed by 3.9 per cent compared to 2011, while Germany saw a 0.9 per cent increase. The UK and Germany are also listed as having the highest absolute emissions from energy use in the EU, with the UK responsible for 472 million tons of CO2 over 2012, up by 17.7mt from 2011, and Germany 728mt. –Will Nichols, Business Green, 29 May 2013
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It’s going to be hard to blame this on Global Warming …
French weather channel Meteo has forecast that this summer will be the worst on record in Western Europe since 1816 – known by meteorological experts as “the year without summer”.
If you’ve been looking forward to spending your Spanish summer sunning yourself by the pool, don’t pack away your winter clothes just yet.
France’s main weather channel has announced that there is a 70 percent chance of this summer being cold and wet across Spain, France, Portugal, Germany and Austria.
http://www.thelocal.es//20130527/spain-braces-itself-for-summer-that-never-was
Jail or worse. Some people need to be charged with murder, at least manslaughter, because they have blood on their hands.
Yeah, I know, I know, that sounds kooky to the moderate purists among us who don’t want to “stoop to their level” and other assorted cop-outs. But let me ask those above-the-fray types a simple question … If Jim Jones had been taken out of the jungle alive, would you charge him with anything?
( That was obviously not directed at you Jimbo! The people it is meant for know who they are. )
nice to see Bellamy get a mention at least:
30 May: UK Express: Nathan Yao: Forecasts for global warming ‘too high’
THE effects of climate change may be less severe than had been feared, a dramatic study has revealed.
Australian scientists say predictions for global warming have been too high.
A university team, using ground-breaking research, said an estimate that the planet would warm up by more than 11F (6C) by the year 2100 unless there were huge cuts in carbon emissions was “unlikely”.
However, in a research paper published in the journal Nature Climate Change, the team claimed that a 4F (2C) increase was “very likely” at current emission rates…
The research is adding to a growing body of evidence against extreme global warming.
Met Office figures showed the United Nations’ Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has overestimated for the past five years the rate at which the planet is heating up.
Campaigners, such as ex-BBC presenter David Bellamy,insist that “man-made global warming is a myth”.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/403595/Forecasts-for-global-warming-too-high
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The slow crawl back from the pig trough by the What yours is Mine crowd, there’s still some more taxpayers money to be made by the Slimy B****ds.
It became obvious early on that this AGW was a concocted hoax, but there was lots of money to be made by perpetuating it, and they knew it.
Bring these criminals, crooks, liars and frauds to a court of law for trial, they knowingly committed crimes against all humanity and should be forced to face up to it. We want justice and our money back!!!!!!
Yale is at it again:
29 May: CleanTechnica: National Survey: Nearly 90% Of Americans Say Government Should Act On Global Warming, Push Ahead On Clean Energy
Nearly 90% of Americans (87%) say that global warming and the development of clean energy sources should be priorities for the US president and Congress, according to results from a nationwide survey conducted by 4C – the George Mason University Center for Climate Change Communication and the Yale Center for Climate Change Communication…
Yet more alarming is that based on current trends we are on track to experience global warming of 4ºC or more, according to the latest research, Dunlop and Kannien pointed out, and that could result in sea level rises of as much as 70 meters (230 feet), not to mention numerous and varied other fundamentally disruptive effects on ecosystems, economies and societies…
Moreover, a majority of Americans support:
Providing tax rebates for people who purchase energy-efficient vehicles or solar panels (71%)
Funding more research into renewable energy sources (70%)
Regulating CO2 as a pollutant (68%)
Requiring fossil fuel companies to pay a carbon tax and using the money to pay down the national debt (61%)
Eliminating all subsidies for the fossil-fuel industry (59%)
Expanding offshore drilling for oil and natural gas off the U.S. coast (58%)
Requiring electric utilities to produce at least 20% of their electricity from renewable energy sources, even if it costs the average household an extra $100 a year (55%)
http://cleantechnica.com/2013/05/29/national-survey-nearly-90-of-americans-say-government-should-act-on-global-warming-push-ahead-on-clean-energy/
Yale: Public Support for Climate & Energy Policies in April 2013
Download the PDF.
http://environment.yale.edu/climate-communication/article/Climate-Policy-Support-April-2013
“UK politicians are getting the lumberjacks in The USA to cut down their forests so that their trees can be cut up and burned (burnt) in UK power stations.” [Olav Dahlsveen at 5:42PM]
Given their supposed “green” policy stance, that is, indeed, hypocritical. It’s a silly strategy practically speaking, though — how much does it cost to cut, process, and ship a load of wood to the U.K.?! Not likely to go on very long, I wouldn’t think.
Please forgive me if this next is completely off base, but, I thought I might have detected some kindly concern on your part indicating that you feel the felling of our forests would be a sad thing. We have a LOT of trees over here in the U.S.. They are a crop as replantable as wheat or corn. I love trees. When a big Douglas Fir starts to fall, it gives a moan, falls to the ground with a thundering crash, and then all is silent (well, if the logger turned off his chainsaw it would be). No one with a tender heart can watch that unmoved. But, that is why it was born, to die, to give humanity life. New, baby, trees will be fifty feet tall in less than 30 years. And the cycle goes on.
No need to feel any regret at using our trees, Mr. Dahlsveen. People like you are why we planted them.
(And we have PLENTY of old growth firs and cedars in our National and State parks to enjoy)
John Tillman says:
May 29, 2013 at 12:05 pm
¡Ojalá!
Which was derived from Arabic: إن شاء الله (Insha’Allah – the will of Allah)
Are we proposing Jihad? Count me out.
Jimbo says: “The temptation to mock, tar and feather will be very great but must be resisted.”
> Rob Potter says: “Allowing them to back down gracefully, however hard that makes me grind my teeth, is the only way forward.”
I don’t think so. The proponents of AGW have cost us Taxpayers and Consumers $106.7 Billion** over 20 years (1989-2009). That price tag does not count cost of complying with needless regulations, which has estimated cost of $1.75 Trillion per year**.
Those involved in Global Warming Scam must be held accountable as in: loss of careers, loss of pensions, forfeiture of assets, and serving time in prison. A strong message must be sent to future scientists and politicians that committing fraud, especially when it comes to science and public trust, will be dealt with harshly.
** (http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2011/08/23/the-alarming-cost-of-climate-change-hysteria/)
There must be money in it for Yeo to change his mind.
Yeah, it’s all a scam, just not happening, and there’s a pretty graph to ‘prove’ it.
How about this then? Duh.
Shipping along the Arctic northern sea route is set to grow more than 30-fold over the next eight years and could account for a quarter of the cargo traffic between Europe and Asia by 2030, experts said on Wednesday.
With global warming thawing sea ice, the route, which runs along Russia’s northern coast and links Europe with ports in East Asia, is opening for longer and longer each year.
Russia is also easing regulations to accommodate more vessels aiming to spur use of the still fledgling route which can cut travel time between Europe and Asia by up to 40 percent.
“Russia clearly sees the opportunity and is trying to take advantage of it,” said Mikhail Belkin, an adviser at Atomflot, the operator of Russia’s nuclear icebreaker fleet.
“The northern sea route is not a rival to the Suez Canal, but it’s a good seasonal complement… and has the potential to grow very fast.”
Around 1.25 million metric tons (1.38 million tons) of cargo traversed the route last year, a tiny figure compared to the Suez Canal’s 740 million metric tons.
But Belkin predicted a rise to 1.5 million metric tons this year and 40 million metric tons by 2021.
“Crossings (between Europe and Asia) will account for 15 million metric tons, LNG from the Yamal Peninsula for another 15 million and oil cargo out of that area for another 10 million,” said Belkin, whose icebreakers need to accompany most vessels along the route.
The gas is expected to come from Yamal, which is being jointly developed by Novatek and Total, while the oil is expected to come from Gazprom’s Novoportovskoye field in Siberia.
A recent deal by ExxonMobil to partner with state-controlled Rosneft to explore for oil on 150 million acres in the Chukchi, Kara and Laptev seas could mean further oil for export.
ICE LEVELS
Last September, Arctic sea ice reached its lowest level on record and scientists say there could be an ice-free summer by 2030-2040.
The northern sea route was open around six months last year with an LNG vessel crossing as late as November and the season could grow to 8 months within a decade.
If you want to know about the science, the Telegraph is no more reliable than the other tory rag the Mail, it just has longer words on average. But that’s what you saddoes do, pick n mix any old opinion even if it does come from a bumptious oaf without a clue about science. But he knows about money, especially unearned income.
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Darren Potter, Jimbo and Rob Potter [related?] you hope. Sadly for you the evidence is piling up according to expectations, was conclusive many years ago and when it finally dawns on you, there will be a lot of pressure to persecute those who delayed action before it was too late. Your internet traces are everywhere, but they’ll probably concentrate on people like Watts and ignore you little people as the dupes you are.
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The report about Tim Yeo is in the printed Telegraph today. Sadly the report also quotes that 97% figure.
As has been noted, the graph of global warming is starting to look like a sine wave. If so, then the global temp will start to fall at an accelerating rate. The lack of warming for nearly two decades is certainly having an effect on the believers. What will happen when the global temp has been consistently falling for several years? We live in interesting times.
It does illustrate the dilemma for sceptics, though. The onset of global cooling will definitively prove that they were right. But at the same time sceptics know that significant global cooling will be a disaster for mankind….
Chris
@Clipe
metaphorically
paraphrased
equivocation
Anything but the truth Margaret?
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I was using a term employed by someone else recently when they got in hot water for what they had said. My humour was a bit too subtle.
As for the other words, this man is a politician – do you not expect anything else especially with the “rise” of UKIP in the UK and their very firmly anti-AGW stand? We”re talking votes and politicians will say anything to keep their seats. I expect the same from Al Gore, Lords Lawson and Donoughue and others.
From “Yes Minister”:
“Ministers have an enviable intellectual suppleness and moral maneuverability. Translation: You can’t trust them further than you can throw them.”
So Tim Yeo is backtracking on his statements
http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2013/5/30/yeo-clarifies-to-obscure.html
In the light of what has appeared on the Telegraph website suggesting that I have changed my views about climate change, I wanted to make clear that this is not the case.
My views have remained the same for over two decades. I accept the overwhelming scientific evidence that human activities are having a major impact on the climate – there is an overwhelming probability that the impact of greenhouse gas emissions from human actions are contributing to climate change.
I will continue to press for urgent action on this matter, making the case that the move to a low carbon economy is not just right environmentally but also in our economic interest.”
He may have been “got at”.
“oneworldnet says:
May 30, 2013 at 2:40 am”
There sure is plenty of real world evidence, not computer simulations, that CO2 from human activities is NOT driving global warming and catastrophic climate change hence the now 17 years stall in temperature rises. Interesting you use the work persecute as in a [witch] hunt or a “Crusade” by “believers”?
Patrick says:
May 30, 2013 at 5:15 am
Dammit! Should have read “Interesting you use the WORD persecute as in a WITCH hunt or a “Crusade” by “believers”?”
Yeo, Gummer and Ed Milliband are beneath contempt. Their scientific ignorance is so complete that they should never again be allowed to comment on any aspect of science. Just posh boys who think they know it all – and there are too many of them in govenment, to say nothing of their `scientific advisors` – all self proclaimed experts. But remember what Richard Feynman said of `experts`!
Related to energy production costs mentioned earlier. Quite a deep site.
http://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=19&t=3
Global Warming ended more than a decade ago.
Change to atmospheric CO2 has no significant influence on average global temperature.
Two papers on line provide some eye-opening insight on possible cause of change to average global temperature.
The first one is ‘Global warming made simple’ at http://lowaltitudeclouds.blogspot.com/. It shows, with simple calculations, how a tiny change in low altitude clouds could account for half of the average global temperature change in the 20th century, and what could have caused that tiny change. (The other half of the temperature change is from natural ocean oscillation which is dominated by the PDO)
The second paper is ‘Natural Climate change has been hiding in plain sight’ at http://climatechange90.blogspot.com/2013/05/natural-climate-change-has-been.html . This paper presents a simple equation that calculates average global temperatures since they have been accurately measured world wide with an accuracy of 90%, irrespective of whether the influence of CO2 is included or not. The equation uses a proxy of the time-integral of sunspot numbers. A graph is included which shows the calculated trajectory overlaid on measurements.
A third paper, ‘The End of Global Warming’ at http://endofgw.blogspot.com/ expands recent measurements and includes a graph showing the growing separation between the rising CO2 and not-rising average global temperature.
oneworldnet says:
May 30, 2013 at 2:32 am
Yeah, it’s all a scam, just not happening, and there’s a pretty graph to ‘prove’ it.
How about this then? Duh.
Shipping along the Arctic northern sea route is set to grow more than 30-fold over the next eight years and could account for a quarter of the cargo traffic between Europe and Asia by 2030, experts said on Wednesday.
onew., from your post:
said Mikhail Belkin, an adviser at Atomflot, the operator of Russia’s nuclear icebreaker fleet.
Russia has several atomic ice breakers:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_powered_icebreaker
I also found this about increasing arctic traffic when googling “Russia atomic ice breakers”:
http://english.pravda.ru/science/tech/01-03-2006/76685-icebreaker-0/
“Icebreakers of the Arktika class can move at a speed of 2-3 knots (4-5.5 km/h) in the ice of 2.8 m thick.”….
” Together with the eight operating atomic icebreakers they will be enough to guide convoys for the next ten years and guarantee transportation of 5-7 million tons of cargo a year along the northern seaway (today, the showing makes up less than 1.5 million of tons).”
“It is supposed that icebreakers of the LK-60 type will be used for this purpose in the future. These icebreakers may operate both in coastal shelf areas and in the deep ocean. Engineers also plan to start developing icebreakers with new nuclear installations that will be able to guide convoys from Europe to America through the North Pole. ”
And so on.
I don’t think Mr. Yeo knows what Mr. Yeo thinks. He’s all over the map. His confusion, though, is symptomatic of an ideology which is under duress and in the process of collapsing.
Protected by both a yellow cloak of political protectiveness and a Teflon cloak of green righteousness, they’re above criticism but to my mind, those greedy pigs are no better than vicious muggers, beating an elderly pensioner to death in the street for her pennies.
http://thepointman.wordpress.com/2013/05/31/politicians-thieves-and-those-grey-areas-in-between/
Pointman
Just remove the grants and see how people change their point of view. If solar nor wind in reliable, then advertise it when they try to sell the idea. They won’t. People feel guilty, or some do by the alarmist bull they circulate, that we in industrial countries are causing environmental disasters in Third World countries and atolls. Atolls sink. Always have done. Yes we were a lot hotter in the last 1,000 years, but not caused by industrial emissions. Grapes were grown in medieval England, then a mini ice age hit and the wine industries were hit. But one little bit of innovation they turned the grape presses into the first printing presses. There didn’t we benefit by mass produced books, and encouraged people to exchange ideas, once they learned to read. Our local university got a huge grant to help remove nitrous oxide from soils. We laughed as our teacher for our Diploma in Organic Agricultural Production, an accredited course, not some Green dream event, told us he didn’t think it was a problem, as nitrous oxides form in wet soils and all they need is gypsum to break them up.