More 'ice free Arctic' claims – we've heard it all before

From the University of Massachusetts at Amherst, something we’ve heard before. For example this claim from 2008. Gotta love the use of props to show how climate tipping points work:

NASA: Arctic Ocean Could be Mostly Ice Free in 2013

Apr 4, 2008

“The sea ice is decreasing faster than all the models predicted,” says Jay Zwally, the ice satellite project scientist at NASA Goddard, “We not only have the warming of the atmosphere, we have a warming of the ocean that is affecting this. It has been surprising to everybody, this decrease in area. This is a marked departure, and this is suggesting to us that maybe we are getting at this tipping point.”

Ice-free Arctic may be in our future, say UMass-Amherst, international researchers

AMHERST, Mass., USA; COLOGNE, Germany; MAGADAN, Russia – Analyses of the longest continental sediment core ever collected in the Arctic, recently completed by an international team led by Julie Brigham-Grette of the University of Massachusetts Amherst, provide “absolutely new knowledge” of Arctic climate from 2.2 to 3.6 million years ago.

“While existing geologic records from the Arctic contain important hints about this time period, what we are presenting is the most continuous archive of information about past climate change from the entire Arctic borderlands. As if reading a detective novel, we can go back in time and reconstruct how the Arctic evolved with only a few pages missing here and there,” says Brigham-Grette.

Results of analyses that provide “an exceptional window into environmental dynamics” never before possible were published this week in Science and have “major implications for understanding how the Arctic transitioned from a forested landscape without ice sheets to the ice- and snow-covered land we know today,” she adds.

Their data come from analyzing sediment cores collected in the winter of 2009 from ice-covered Lake El’gygytgyn, the oldest deep lake in the northeast Russian Arctic, located 100 km north of the Arctic Circle. “Lake E” was formed 3.6 million years ago when a meteorite, perhaps a kilometer in diameter, hit the Earth and blasted out an 11-mile (18 km) wide crater. It has been collecting sediment layers ever since. Luckily for geoscientists, it lies in one of the few Arctic areas not eroded by continental ice sheets during ice ages, so a thick, continuous sediment record was left remarkably undisturbed. Cores from Lake E reach back in geologic time nearly 25 times farther than Greenland ice cores that span only the past 140,000 years.

“One of our major findings is that the Arctic was very warm in the middle Pliocene and Early Pleistocene [~ 3.6 to 2.2 million years ago] when others have suggested atmospheric CO2 was not much higher than levels we see today. This could tell us where we are going in the near future. In other words, the Earth system response to small changes in carbon dioxide is bigger than suggested by earlier climate models,” the authors state.

Important to the story are the fossil pollen found in the core, including Douglas fir and hemlock. These allow the reconstruction of vegetation around the lake in the past, which in turn paints a picture of past temperatures and precipitation.

Another significant finding is documentation of sustained warmth in the Middle Pliocene, with summer temperatures of about 59 to 61 degrees F [15 to 16 degrees C], about 14.4 degrees F [8 degrees C] warmer than today, and regional precipitation three times higher. “We show that this exceptional warmth well north of the Arctic Circle occurred throughout both warm and cold orbital cycles and coincides with a long interval of 1.2 million years when other researchers have shown the West Antarctic Ice Sheet did not exist,” Brigham-Grette notes. Hence both poles share some common history, but the pace of change differed.

Her co-authors, Martin Melles of the University of Cologne and Pavel Minyuk of Russia’s Northeast Interdisciplinary Scientific Research Institute, Magadan, led research teams on the project. Robert DeConto, also at UMass Amherst, led climate modeling efforts. These data were compared with ecosystem reconstructions performed by collaborators at universities of Berlin and Cologne.

The Lake E cores provide a terrestrial perspective on the stepped pacing of several portions of the climate system through the transition from a warm, forested Arctic to the first occurrence of land ice, Brigham-Grette says, and the eventual onset of major glacial/interglacial cycles. “It is very impressive that summer temperatures during warm intervals even as late as 2.2 million years ago were always warmer than in our pre-Industrial reconstructions.”

Minyuk notes that they also observed a major drop in Arctic precipitation at around the same time large Northern Hemispheric ice sheets first expanded and ocean conditions changed in the North Pacific. This has major implications for understanding both what drove the onset of the ice ages

The sediment core also reveals that even during the first major “cold snap” to show up in the record 3.3 Million years ago, temperatures in the western Arctic were similar to recent averages of the past 12,000 years. “Most importantly, conditions were not ‘glacial,’ raising new questions as to the timing of the first appearance of ice sheets in the Northern Hemisphere,” the authors add.

This week’s paper is the second article published in Science by these authors using data from the Lake E project. Their first, in July 2012, covered the period from the present to 2.8 million years ago, while the current work addresses the record from 2.2 to 3.6 million years ago. Melles says, “This latest paper completes our goal of providing an overview of new knowledge of the evolution of Arctic change across the western borderlands back to 3.6 million years and places this record into a global context with comparisons to records in the Pacific, the Atlantic and Antarctica.”

The new Lake E paleoclimate reconstructions and climate modeling are consistent with estimates made by other research groups that support the idea that Earth’s climate sensitivity to CO2 may well be higher than suggested by the 2007 report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

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The International Lake El’gygytgyn Drilling Project was funded by the International Continental Drilling Program (ICDP), the U.S. National Science Foundation’s Division of Earth Sciences and Office of Polar Programs, the German Federal Ministry for Education and Research, Alfred Wegener Institute, GeoForschungsZentrum-Potsdam, the Russian Academy of Sciences Far East Branch, the Russian Foundation for Basic Research and the Austrian Ministry for Science and Research.

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Stephen Richards
May 9, 2013 11:56 am

“One of our major findings is that the Arctic was very warm in the middle Pliocene and Early Pleistocene [~ 3.6 to 2.2 million years ago] when others have suggested atmospheric CO2 was not much higher than levels we see today. This could tell us where we are going in the near future. In other words, the Earth system response to small changes in carbon dioxide is bigger than suggested by earlier climate models,” the authors state.*
Now that’s what you call really good scientific method. They could only reach that assumption by being 100% certain that CO² heats the planet proportionally. Where is their proof? Oh, sorry, they don’t need one. Utter, Utter numpties. Just unbelievable stupidity. aaaaaaaaaargh !!!!!!

Rhoda R
May 9, 2013 11:58 am

It sounds like an interesting study – too bad they garbaged it up with the global warming nonsense.

Ed_B
May 9, 2013 12:01 pm

“In other words, the Earth system response to small changes in carbon dioxide is bigger than suggested by earlier climate models,”
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Pretty obvious to me that this is the money quote needed to pay for the project. The data says nothing of the sort. He who pays the piper..

Lance Wallace
May 9, 2013 12:01 pm
JeffC
May 9, 2013 12:10 pm

all this from sediment cores … these guys are amazing !!!! maybe sediment cores can cure cancer too …

Chris @NJSnowFan
May 9, 2013 12:11 pm

It is not the C02 that is causing the ice to melt in the Arctic during summer time! It is is BC, Black Carbon released in the N Hemisphere by man, volcanic ash and the last 50 years of intense sun spot cycles. If you look at the records of when the multiple year ice started melting at faster rates was when the start of High Altitude Jet Engine travel started. Low altitude BC emissions do not reach the Arctic regions as much as high altitude BC emissions from Jet exhaust do.
The Great Dust Bowl of the 1930′ did also play a roll in faster multi-year Arctic melt. Put the puzzle together of dirty snow fall and BC on the ice with intense sun spot cycles and you get fast melting. Look at it this way, if it snows when the sun angle is higher ( March, April &May)the snow and ice will melt off the pavement areas melt very fast because the darker surface below the sow and ice absorbs the radiation just like BC in the snow and on the ice in the Arctic region.

dorsai123
May 9, 2013 12:12 pm

why do these researchers always look like the only “field work” they’ve ever done is going to the grocery store for lunch …

Auto
May 9, 2013 12:15 pm

We now know a bit about the 2.2 to 3.6 million year ago interval.
There is some, still, that we do not know.
Were the ancient, pollen-producing, Douglas fir and hemlock [Hmmm – which hemlock – I guess it’s in the paper. (There was a paper, not a press release, I guess)] exact ecological equivalents of those same species – or genera – today?
Do not plant have an innate ability to evolve to better reproduce in the conditions they find themselves in?
And a couple of million years? [Even for Douglas fir, that must average a thousand generations or so. Some hemlocks are weeds, so likely annuals. A fair old number of hemlock generations, at one a year for a couple of million years. How many generations separate us from Ardipithecus ramidus? Half a million or so, no more.]
When exactly did the Isthmus of Panama finally close?
And what effects might that have had?
What were cloud levels, and densities [and so albedos]?
How active was the Sun?
How prevalent were ‘wildfires’ [we know there were no SUVs in that era]?
Do we know anything at all about three-million-year-old ENSOs? Did they even happen?
‘Atmospheric CO2 was not much higher than levels we see today.’ Even if true, and it may well be true, that’s not the entire story. Is it?
Fascinating science, but maybe the interpretation presented goes a tad further than the evidence presented can fully support in the long term.

KNR
May 9, 2013 12:17 pm

True its the some old story , but somethings have changed. They have largley learned to make prodictions which are a ‘long time ‘ away, safe in the knowledge they will not to around to be reminded of them when they prove to be BS.

Bruce Cobb
May 9, 2013 12:23 pm

“One of our major findings is that the Arctic was very warm in the middle Pliocene and Early Pleistocene [~ 3.6 to 2.2 million years ago] when others have suggested atmospheric CO2 was not much higher than levels we see today. This could tell us where we are going in the near future. In other words, the Earth system response to small changes in carbon dioxide is bigger than suggested by earlier climate models,” the authors state.
This always trips up climate “researchers”. They assume that C02 is a major climate driver, and for “evidence”, they have the fact that C02 levels were up (about today’s levels) during a certain time period, therefore must be the cause of the warmer temperatures. They always ignore the inconvenient fact that the C02 went up only after it warmed, so couldn’t possibly have caused it.
But wait, there’s more. Now, it appears that the “earth system response” to even small changes in C02 is even bigger than they thought. This, when studies, and all reality is actually showing the reverse: that the sensitivity of Earth’s climate to C02 is subject to the law of diminishing returns. Whatever the C02 levels were during the mid-Pliocene or early Pleistocene tell us absolutely nothing about “where we’re going” climate-wise.

TonyK
May 9, 2013 12:25 pm

“One of our major findings is that the Arctic was very warm in the middle Pliocene and Early Pleistocene when….. CO2 was not much higher than levels we see today. In other words, the Earth system response to small changes in carbon dioxide is bigger than suggested by earlier climate models,”
……..Or something else caused the warming and CO2 had nothing to do with it! Surely anyone with a grain of intelligence would have thought of that! No? Oh……

Auto
May 9, 2013 12:34 pm

Hmm – their paper just says ‘hemlock’, once. [Thank you – Lance Wallace, May 9, 2013 at 12:01 pm ]
The reference [18] appears to be the authors’ previous paper on Lake E – 0 to 2.8 million years ago. In ‘Science’, and seems to be pay-walled [or they wish to send me many ads].
So, might there have been a greater biomass of flatulent bovids then?
More methane . . . . .
The pics/maps in the paper clearly show a differently-configures Northern Hemisphere to that we enjoy today. A seaman’s guess is that affected ocean currents [and possibly tides, too].

Robert M
May 9, 2013 12:40 pm

One thing is for sure, polar ice levels are a great proxy that demonstrate how much hotter our climate has gotten since mankind has foolishly polluted out air with nasty CO2. If only we had a proxy to show how much less ice there really is up North. Like The Nenana Ice Classic! 97 years demonstrating global warming. I’m sure this year, must be one of the earliest breakups on record… Let’s check in…
May 9, and the ice is still ~40 freakin inches thick, and breakup usually happens in April. It is possible that warmer weather may have caused more ice to form. This is consistent with global warming. /sarc
Note: the last measurement was on 6 May. The measurement will be updated later today if the ice is safe enough for a measurement.
In other news, this year’s ice classic is looking like it might be one for the record books. The unseasonably cold weather we have had this spring has finally broken, and it has warmed up considerably. This would indicate that breakup could be in the next few days. However, The ice is still solid from bank to bank, with no visible sign of water. The temperatures were in the mid to lower 30’s from Wednesday April 23rd thru Thursday May 2nd during the day, and dropping down to the mid 20’s in the evenings. The temperatures have been in the mid to upper 40’s and into the mid 50’s the last few days, and in the mid 20’s to the mid 30’s in the evenings for the same time period. The Nenana River is still showing no signs of breakup. It is generally 7 – 10 days after the Nenana River breaks up, that the Tanana River breaks up. It’s could be awhile before the ice moves out, so stay tuned!!!
http://www.nenanaakiceclassic.com/

Fred from Canuckistan
May 9, 2013 12:42 pm

sediment cores or sentiment cores?
One is science, one is believing.
As in CAGW.

May 9, 2013 12:43 pm

3.5M years ago was the (mid-) Pliocene. Here’s what is known about this era : The global average temperature was 2-3°C higher than today, global sea level 25 m higher! The formation of an Arctic ice cap and Mid-latitude glaciation started. Global cooling started during the Pliocene.
Continents were drifting fast: moving ~250 km from their present locations to ~70 km from their current locations. South America became linked to North America! This had major consequences on global temperatures, since warm equatorial ocean currents were cut off and an Atlantic cooling cycle began, with cold Arctic and Antarctic waters dropping temperatures in the now-isolated Atlantic Ocean. Africa collided with Europe and formed the Mediterranean Sea. ETC ETC ETC
Do we need to go on and on and on, or do these people not realize that comparing 3.5M yrs ago is comparing apples with oranges, unless 2-3C warmer and 25mtr higher sea levels is thought of being the same (weird to see everybody screaming “end of days are here”, when we’re experiencing 0.4C change and 1.5mm/yr sea level rise…).
Massive, and major changes were occurring on all levels: from global, continental, to local. The world was in turmoil. There were major oceanic changes, major changes in flora, fauna, ecosystems, etc. ALL occurred without 1 single human being present at that time. ALL these massive changes -e.g. link SA with NA, were UNRELATED to CO2. The subsequent changes in oceanic temps were UNRELATED to CO2. The subsequent changes in global temperatures were UNRELATED to CO2.

TomRude
May 9, 2013 12:47 pm

And in Live Sciences, there are always the usual suspects’ wishful thinking:
“Moran is director of NEPTUNE Canada, an underwater ocean observatory managed by the University of Victoria in British Columbia.
“This new paleoclimate record adds to the growing evidence that Earth’s sensitivity to these levels of greenhouse gases may be higher than previously thought,” Moran said. “Understanding Earth’s sensitivity is one of the key parameters for predicting future conditions of the planet under global warming.”
LOL Wishful thinking: there is no evidence of cause/effect, only teleconnection.
“And a return to Pliocene-type conditions may not be too far off in the future, said Gifford Miller, a professor in the department of geological sciences at the University of Colorado Boulder, who conducts research in the Canadian Arctic.
“The ice is melting at all elevations,” Miller said. “Even if there is no additional warming, it’s only a matter of time before the ice is all gone.”
Sure … Bet your mother’s saving on it Miller?
“The extended warm period during the middle Pliocene also raises new questions about the subsequent ice ages. According to the new study, warm Arctic temperatures persisted past the time when previous studies estimated the start of expanding glaciers in the Northern Hemisphere, Moran said.
These conflicting results mean scientists are still unclear when big continental ice sheets began to expand and grow, and what triggered these changes.
“It really stays relatively warm in the Arctic, even in the onset of the first part of the ice age cycle,” Miller said. “That one was unexpected.”
Miller and Moran demonstrate their ignorance of atmospheric circulation processes in their ridiculous comments.

TomRude
May 9, 2013 12:53 pm
Latitude
May 9, 2013 12:55 pm

“The sea ice is decreasing faster than all the models predicted,”
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He doesn’t realize that makes them wrong…….
…which means the computer games have gotten nothing right

TomRude
May 9, 2013 12:57 pm

BTW here is Moran’s bio… Says it all about the kind University of Victoria BC is recruiting…
Kate Moran
Director
Dr. Moran formerly served a two-year term as assistant director in the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy in Washington, DC. In her White House role, Moran advised the Obama administration on the oceans, the Arctic and global warming. She was seconded to the position from a faculty appointment at the University of Rhode Island where she was a professor of oceanography and associate dean of the Graduate School of Oceanography.
Dr. Moran holds degrees in marine science and engineering from the University of Pittsburgh, the University of Rhode Island and Dalhousie University. Her research focuses on marine geotechnics and its application to the study of paleoceanography, tectonics and seafloor stability. She has authored more than 45 publications.
Kate Moran has led several major oceanographic expeditions, including the first drilling expedition to the Arctic Ocean in 2004. The following year she led the first expedition to find the source of the earthquake that caused the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami. She has also made major contributions to the assessment of hazards in Canada’s offshore regions.

Gamecock
May 9, 2013 1:03 pm

“…which means the computer games have gotten nothing right”
Zactly. High or low, errors are errors.

May 9, 2013 1:10 pm

Echoing Tom Miller: Imagine one had a true Time Machine. Would these guys be willing to bet their lives that if one zapped them back to the described period, one would find exactly what they describe? You’re correct or dead; now exactly how certain are you? We have a hard enough time getting any sort of picture of not-yet-ancient civilizations from artifacts and site exploration; yet this group has even more certainty about what happened to a vastly more complex system over 2 million years ago? Ha.
I just flew AMS-PDX this morning, taking the Great Circle north of Hudson Bay. Lots–and lots–of ice and snow. Anecdotal, yes, and non-scientific–but my God what an amazing sight are both Greenland and Baffin Island. Good to be home.

Stephen Richards
May 9, 2013 1:10 pm

TomRude says:
May 9, 2013 at 12:53 pm
OT: Wind Turbine chewing an eagle
49 sea eagles !! Shhhhhhhh I can’t hear the greenie beenies !!! No, still no sound. Amazing that. Mustn’t dig in a field in england because of danger to lizards, mustn’t touch bats at all or go nearr them even if they are making your house unlivable but CHOP UP A FEW RARE BIRDS? what’s the problem??

son of mulder
May 9, 2013 1:12 pm

“”The sea ice is decreasing faster than all the models predicted,” says Jay Zwally, the ice satellite project scientist at NASA Goddard,”
So all the models are wrong. Don’t sceptics keep saying that.

u.k.(us)
May 9, 2013 1:29 pm

Chris @NJSnowFan says:
May 9, 2013 at 12:11 pm
“It is not the C02 that is causing the ice to melt in the Arctic during summer time! It is is BC, Black Carbon released in the N Hemisphere by man, volcanic ash and the last 50 years of intense sun spot cycles.”…………..
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If this were true, wouldn’t there be photographic evidence of black carbon sprinkled over the entire surface of the Arctic, instead of just in the bottom of melt lakes in Greenland ?
Also, how would we know if it is increasing past background levels ?
Has anyone analyzed the carbon found to determine its origin ?
Just a few thoughts.

Lance Wallace
May 9, 2013 1:30 pm

Abstract from the authors’ earlier paper in Science:
“The reliability of Arctic climate predictions is currently hampered by insufficient knowledge of
natural climate variability in the past. A sediment core from Lake El’gygytgyn in northeastern
(NE) Russia provides a continuous, high-resolution record from the Arctic, spanning the past
2.8 million years. This core reveals numerous “super interglacials” during the Quaternary; for
marine benthic isotope stages (MIS) 11c and 31, maximum summer temperatures and annual
precipitation values are ~4° to 5°C and ~300 millimeters higher than those of MIS 1 and 5e.
Climate simulations show that these extreme warm conditions are difficult to explain with
greenhouse gas and astronomical forcing alone, implying the importance of amplifying feedbacks and far field influences. The timing of Arctic warming relative to West Antarctic Ice Sheet retreats implies strong interhemispheric climate connectivity.”
At least they are clear that the standard greenhouse models can’t explain the natural variation.

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