Help Launch Climate Skeptic Film Project: 50 to 1

Aren’t you a little embarrassed by how childish the ‘backup calculations’ provided by Monckton are?

Monckton of Brenchley says:
May 4, 2013 at 12:40 am
Many commenters continue to struggle with the notion of my accepting the IPCC’s central climatological estimates for the sake of argument. The worst that can happen if anyone actually believes that in adopting the IPCC’s position for the sake of argument I have adopted it altogether is that my argument that even on the basis of the IPCC’s own estimates it is 50 times costlier to mitigate today than to adapt the day after tomorrow will be seen to have still greater force.
Should we have to read your mind in a seven minute film? If it is made clear first of all that there is no problem, that the IPCC has created the illusion of AGW by faking “the consensus of climate scientists”? As you succinctly pointed out some time ago when showing that Santer admitted he had cooked the 95 report by excising the real consensus of the climate scientists that there was no AGW discernible*.
If you first informed that Houghton brought in Santer to re-write the report so as to fraudulently claim through the ‘authority’ of the IPCC that AGW was a fact when it clearly was not and the science has been corrupted ever since by the IPCC, then who wouldn’t continue to listen to the rest, however entrenched they were in the fake fisics memes of anthropogenic global warming?
Which was relaunched as “climate change” because the charlatans knew there was no global warming..
*http://larouchepac.com/node/12823
.IPCC’s Santer Admits Fraud
December 18, 2009 • 10:16AM
“Ben Santer, a climate researcher and lead IPCC author of Chapter 8 of the 1995 IPCC Working Group I Report, admitted last night on Jesse Ventura’s Conspiracy Theory national TV show, that he had deleted sections of the IPCC chapter which stated that humans were not responsible for climate change. Accusing Santer of altering opinions in the IPCC report that disagreed with the man-made thesis behind climate change, Lord Monckton told the program, “In comes Santer and re-writes it for them, after the scientists have sent in their finalized draft, and that finalized draft said at five different places, there is no discernable human effect on global temperature — I’ve seen a copy of this — Santer went through, crossed out all of those, and substituted a new conclusion, and this has been the official conclusion ever since.””
Then follow with the milk sop of 50 to 1.
That will certainly give them a solid first step into exploring the science corruption promoted by the IPCC and from this promoted by all the once great science bodies now in control of the same agenda which informed Houghton and the IPCC contrived.

@Greg House says:
May 3, 2013 at 1:19 pm
“There is no reason to believe, that it can “come across very clearly that the IPCC is untrustworthy” on economic issues, because nobody has presented anything scientific that proves that point.”
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That the IPCC is untrustworthy is established. It is the very spawn of that.
You have revealed yourself.
You are a creature a deceit.
An abuse of human trust.
Read my post of 4.02am above.
It describes you. You are an offense to all things of real value.

I continue to suspect the people who need to see this will not watch. If they do, they will dismiss the math as tricky skeptic math, not what the “scientists” know….
What about a tv series, plus availability on YouTube, in a debate format. Every week an expert skeptic on an aspect of the problem will debate a “climate scientist.” Citizen scientists would be encouraged to participate…. The AGW “climate scientists” won’t debate? Ok. List the credentials of all the ones invited to participate and make an honest effort to portray their thinking through research papers and news comments. Put a mannequin in the chair.
Next week repeat the exercise with another expert citizen scientist, or Lindzen or Pat Michaels or Fred Singer or…. against yet another mannequin.
Force the engagement the AGW folk refuse to have.
Here’s a list of possible topics I just copied from Cook’s SKS site, with their vapid uninformed rebuttals. Take ’em out, on every subject, not merely cost.
Global Warming & Climate Change Myths
Here is a summary of global warming and climate change myths, sorted by recent popularity vs what science says. Click the response for a more detailed response. You can also view them sorted by taxonomy, by popularity, in a print-friendly version, with short URLs or with fixed numbers you can use for permanent references.
Climate Myth vs What the Science Says
1 “Climate’s changed before” Climate reacts to whatever forces it to change at the time; humans are now the dominant forcing.
2 “It’s the sun” In the last 35 years of global warming, sun and climate have been going in opposite directions
3 “It’s not bad” Negative impacts of global warming on agriculture, health & environment far outweigh any positives.
4 “There is no consensus” 97% of climate experts agree humans are causing global warming.
5 “It’s cooling” The last decade 2000-2009 was the hottest on record.
6 “Models are unreliable” Models successfully reproduce temperatures since 1900 globally, by land, in the air and the ocean.
7 “Temp record is unreliable” The warming trend is the same in rural and urban areas, measured by thermometers and satellites.
8 “Animals and plants can adapt” Global warming will cause mass extinctions of species that cannot adapt on short time scales.
9 “It hasn’t warmed since 1998” For global records, 2010 is the hottest year on record, tied with 2005.
10 “Antarctica is gaining ice” Satellites measure Antarctica losing land ice at an accelerating rate.
11 “Ice age predicted in the 70s” The vast majority of climate papers in the 1970s predicted warming.
12 “CO2 lags temperature” CO2 didn’t initiate warming from past ice ages but it did amplify the warming.
13 “Climate sensitivity is low” Net positive feedback is confirmed by many different lines of evidence.
14 “We’re heading into an ice age” Worry about global warming impacts in the next 100 years, not an ice age in over 10,000 years.
15 “Ocean acidification isn’t serious” Ocean acidification threatens entire marine food chains.
16 “Hockey stick is broken” Recent studies agree that recent global temperatures are unprecedented in the last 1000 years.
17 “Climategate CRU emails suggest conspiracy” A number of investigations have cleared scientists of any wrongdoing in the media-hyped email incident.
18 “Hurricanes aren’t linked to global warming” There is increasing evidence that hurricanes are getting stronger due to global warming.
19 “Al Gore got it wrong” Al Gore book is quite accurate, and far more accurate than contrarian books.
20 “Glaciers are growing” Most glaciers are retreating, posing a serious problem for millions who rely on glaciers for water.
21 “It’s cosmic rays” Cosmic rays show no trend over the last 30 years & have had little impact on recent global warming.
22 “1934 – hottest year on record” 1934 was one of the hottest years in the US, not globally.
23 “It’s freaking cold!” A local cold day has nothing to do with the long-term trend of increasing global temperatures.
24 “Extreme weather isn’t caused by global warming” Extreme weather events are being made more frequent and worse by global warming.
25 “Sea level rise is exaggerated” A variety of different measurements find steadily rising sea levels over the past century.
26 “It’s Urban Heat Island effect” Urban and rural regions show the same warming trend.
27 “Medieval Warm Period was warmer” Globally averaged temperature now is higher than global temperature in medieval times.
28 “Mars is warming” Mars is not warming globally.
29 “Arctic icemelt is a natural cycle” Thick arctic sea ice is undergoing a rapid retreat.
30 “Increasing CO2 has little to no effect” The strong CO2 effect has been observed by many different measurements.
31 “Oceans are cooling” The most recent ocean measurements show consistent warming.
32 “It’s a 1500 year cycle” Ancient natural cycles are irrelevant for attributing recent global warming to humans.
33 “Human CO2 is a tiny % of CO2 emissions” The natural cycle adds and removes CO2 to keep a balance; humans add extra CO2 without removing any.
34 “IPCC is alarmist”
Numerous papers have documented how IPCC predictions are more likely to underestimate the climate response.
35 “Water vapor is the most powerful greenhouse gas”
Rising CO2 increases atmospheric water vapor, which makes global warming much worse.
36 “Polar bear numbers are increasing” Polar bears are in danger of extinction as well as many other species.
37 “CO2 limits will harm the economy”
The benefits of a price on carbon outweigh the costs several times over.
38 “It’s not happening”
There are many lines of evidence indicating global warming is unequivocal.
39 “Greenland was green” Other parts of the earth got colder when Greenland got warmer.
40 “Greenland is gaining ice” Greenland on the whole is losing ice, as confirmed by satellite measurement.
41 “CO2 is not a pollutant”
Through its impacts on the climate, CO2 presents a danger to public health and welfare, and thus qualifies as an air pollutant
42 “CO2 is plant food”
The effects of enhanced CO2 on terrestrial plants are variable and complex and dependent on numerous factors
43 “Other planets are warming” Mars and Jupiter are not warming, and anyway the sun has recently been cooling slightly.
44 “Arctic sea ice has recovered” Thick arctic sea ice is in rapid retreat.
45 “There’s no empirical evidence” There are multiple lines of direct observations that humans are causing global warming.
46 “We’re coming out of the Little Ice Age”
Scientists have determined that the factors which caused the Little Ice Age cooling are not currently causing global warming
47 “There’s no correlation between CO2 and temperature” There is long-term correlation between CO2 and global temperature; other effects are short-term.
48 “It cooled mid-century” Mid-century cooling involved aerosols and is irrelevant for recent global warming.
49 “CO2 was higher in the past” When CO2 was higher in the past, the sun was cooler.
50 “It warmed before 1940 when CO2 was low” Early 20th century warming is due to several causes, including rising CO2.
51 “Global warming stopped in 1998, 1995, 2002, 2007, 2010, ????”
Global temperature is still rising and 2010 was the hottest recorded.
52 “Satellites show no warming in the troposphere” The most recent satellite data show that the earth as a whole is warming.
53 “It’s aerosols” Aerosols have been masking global warming, which would be worse otherwise.
54 “It’s El Niño” El Nino has no trend and so is not responsible for the trend of global warming.
55 “2009-2010 winter saw record cold spells” A cold day in Chicago in winter has nothing to do with the trend of global warming.
56 “It’s a natural cycle” No known natural forcing fits the fingerprints of observed warming except anthropogenic greenhouse gases.
57 “Mt. Kilimanjaro’s ice loss is due to land use” Most glaciers are in rapid retreat worldwide, notwithstanding a few complicated cases.
58 “There’s no tropospheric hot spot” We see a clear “short-term hot spot” – there’s various evidence for a “long-term hot spot”.
59 “It’s not us” Multiple sets of independent observations find a human fingerprint on climate change.
60 “It’s Pacific Decadal Oscillation” The PDO shows no trend, and therefore the PDO is not responsible for the trend of global warming.
61 “IPCC were wrong about Himalayan glaciers”
Glaciers are in rapid retreat worldwide, despite 1 error in 1 paragraph in a 1000 page IPCC report.
62 “Scientists can’t even predict weather” Weather and climate are different; climate predictions do not need weather detail.
63 “Greenhouse effect has been falsified” The greenhouse effect is standard physics and confirmed by observations.
64 “2nd law of thermodynamics contradicts greenhouse theory” The 2nd law of thermodynamics is consistent with the greenhouse effect which is directly observed.
65 “CO2 limits will hurt the poor”
Those who contribute the least greenhouse gases will be most impacted by climate change.
66 “The science isn’t settled” That human CO2 is causing global warming is known with high certainty & confirmed by observations.
67 “Clouds provide negative feedback” Evidence is building that net cloud feedback is likely positive and unlikely to be strongly negative.
68 “Sea level rise predictions are exaggerated” Sea level rise is now increasing faster than predicted due to unexpectedly rapid ice melting.
69 “It’s the ocean” The oceans are warming and moreover are becoming more acidic, threatening the food chain.
70 “IPCC were wrong about Amazon rainforests” The IPCC statement on Amazon rainforests was correct, and was incorrectly reported in some media.
71 “Corals are resilient to bleaching” Globally about 1% of coral is dying out each year.
72 “Volcanoes emit more CO2 than humans” Humans emit 100 times more CO2 than volcanoes.
73 “CO2 effect is saturated” Direct measurements find that rising CO2 is trapping more heat.
74 “Greenland ice sheet won’t collapse” When Greenland was 3 to 5 degrees C warmer than today, a large portion of the Ice Sheet melted.
75 “CO2 is just a trace gas” Many substances are dangerous even in trace amounts; what really matters is the total amount of CO2 in the atmosphere.
76 “It’s methane” Methane plays a minor role in global warming but could get much worse if permafrost starts to melt.
77 “CO2 has a short residence time” Excess CO2 from human emissions has a long residence time of over 100 years
78 “CO2 measurements are suspect” CO2 levels are measured by hundreds of stations across the globe, all reporting the same trend.
79 “Humidity is falling” Multiple lines of independent evidence indicate humidity is rising and provides positive feedback.
80 “500 scientists refute the consensus” Around 97% of climate experts agree that humans are causing global warming.
81 “Neptune is warming” And the sun is cooling.
82 “Springs aren’t advancing” Hundreds of flowers across the UK are flowering earlier now than any time in 250 years.
83 “Jupiter is warming” Jupiter is not warming, and anyway the sun is cooling.
84 “It’s land use” Land use plays a minor role in climate change, although carbon sequestration may help to mitigate.
85 “Scientists tried to ‘hide the decline’ in global temperature” The ‘decline’ refers to a decline in northern tree-rings, not global temperature, and is openly discussed in papers and the IPCC reports.
86 “CO2 is not increasing” CO2 is increasing rapidly, and is reaching levels not seen on the earth for millions of years.
87 “Record snowfall disproves global warming” Warming leads to increased evaporation and precipitation, which falls as increased snow in winter.
88 “They changed the name from global warming to climate change” ‘Global warming’ and ‘climate change’ mean different things and have both been used for decades.
89 “Solar Cycle Length proves its the sun” The sun has not warmed since 1970 and so cannot be driving global warming.
90 “CO2 is coming from the ocean” The ocean is absorbing massive amounts of CO2, and is becoming more acidic as a result.
91 “IPCC overestimate temperature rise” Monckton used the IPCC equation in an inappropriate manner.
92 “Pluto is warming” And the sun has been recently cooling.
93 “CO2 is not the only driver of climate” Theory, models and direct measurement confirm CO2 is currently the main driver of climate change.
94 “Peer review process was corrupted” An Independent Review concluded that CRU’s actions were normal and didn’t threaten the integrity of peer review.
95 “Arctic was warmer in 1940”
The actual data show high northern latitudes are warmer today than in 1940.
96 “Southern sea ice is increasing” Antarctic sea ice has grown in recent decades despite the Southern Ocean warming at the same time.
97 “CO2 limits will make little difference”
If every nation agrees to limit CO2 emissions, we can achieve significant cuts on a global scale.
98 “Sea level rise is decelerating”
Global sea level data shows that sea level rise has been increasing since 1880 while future sea level rise predictions are based on physics, not statistics.
99 “Renewable energy is too expensive”
When you account for all of the costs associated with burning coal and other fossil fuels, like air pollution and health effects, in reality they are significantly more expensive than most renewable energy sources.
100 “It’s microsite influences” Microsite influences on temperature changes are minimal; good and bad sites show the same trend.
101 “Phil Jones says no global warming since 1995” Phil Jones was misquoted.
102 “Humans are too insignificant to affect global climate” Humans are small but powerful, and human CO2 emissions are causing global warming.
103 “Lindzen and Choi find low climate sensitivity” Lindzen and Choi’s paper is viewed as unacceptably flawed by other climate scientists.
104 “Dropped stations introduce warming bias” If the dropped stations had been kept, the temperature would actually be slightly higher.
105 “It’s too hard” Scientific studies have determined that current technology is sufficient to reduce greenhouse gas emissions enough to avoid dangerous climate change.
106 “It’s not urgent”
A large amount of warming is delayed, and if we don’t act now we could pass tipping points.
107 “It’s albedo” Albedo change in the Arctic, due to receding ice, is increasing global warming.
108 “Tree-rings diverge from temperature after 1960” This is a detail that is complex, local, and irrelevant to the observed global warming trend.
109 “It’s soot”
Soot stays in the atmosphere for days to weeks; carbon dioxide causes warming for centuries.
110 “Hansen’s 1988 prediction was wrong”
Jim Hansen had several possible scenarios; his mid-level scenario B was right.
111 “Roy Spencer finds negative feedback” Spencer’s model is too simple, excluding important factors like ocean dynamics and treats cloud feedbacks as forcings.
112 “It’s global brightening” This is a complex aerosol effect with unclear temperature significance.
113 “Arctic sea ice loss is matched by Antarctic sea ice gain” Arctic sea ice loss is three times greater than Antarctic sea ice gain.
114 “It’s a climate regime shift” There is no evidence that climate has chaotic “regimes” on a long-term basis.
115 “Earth hasn’t warmed as much as expected” This argument ignores the cooling effect of aerosols and the planet’s thermal inertia.
116 “Solar cycles cause global warming” Over recent decades, the sun has been slightly cooling & is irrelevant to recent global warming.
117 “Less than half of published scientists endorse global warming” Around 97% of climate experts agree that humans are causing global warming.
118 “Ice isn’t melting”
Arctic sea ice has shrunk by an area equal to Western Australia, and summer or multi-year sea ice might be all gone within a decade.
119 “Over 31,000 scientists signed the OISM Petition Project” The ‘OISM petition’ was signed by only a few climatologists.
120 “IPCC ‘disappeared’ the Medieval Warm Period”
The IPCC simply updated their temperature history graphs to show the best data available at the time.
121 “Climate is chaotic and cannot be predicted” Weather is chaotic but climate is driven by Earth’s energy imbalance, which is more predictable.
122 “It’s ozone” Ozone has only a small effect.
123 “Freedom of Information (FOI) requests were ignored” An independent inquiry found CRU is a small research unit with limited resources and their rigour and honesty are not in doubt.
124 “The IPCC consensus is phoney”
113 nations signed onto the 2007 IPCC report, which is simply a summary of the current body of climate science evidence
125 “Sea level is not rising” The claim sea level isn’t rising is based on blatantly doctored graphs contradicted by observations.
126 “Climate ‘Skeptics’ are like Galileo” Modern scientists, not anti-science skeptics, follow in Galileo’s footsteps.
127 “Tuvalu sea level isn’t rising” Tuvalu sea level is rising 3 times larger than the global average.
128 “A drop in volcanic activity caused warming” Volcanoes have had no warming effect in recent global warming – if anything, a cooling effect.
129 “Trenberth can’t account for the lack of warming” Trenberth is talking about the details of energy flow, not whether global warming is happening.
130 “Renewables can’t provide baseload power”
A number of renewable sources already do provide baseload power, and we don’t need renewables to provide a large percentage of baseload power immediately.
131 “Ice Sheet losses are overestimated” A number of independent measurements find extensive ice loss from Antarctica and Greenland.
132 “CRU tampered with temperature data” An independent inquiry went back to primary data sources and were able to replicate CRU’s results.
133 “Naomi Oreskes’ study on consensus was flawed” Benny Peiser, the Oreskes critic, retracted his criticism.
134 “Melting ice isn’t warming the Arctic” Melting ice leads to more sunlight being absorbed by water, thus heating the Arctic.
135 “Breathing contributes to CO2 buildup” By breathing out, we are simply returning to the air the same CO2 that was there to begin with.
136 “Satellite error inflated Great Lakes temperatures” Temperature errors in the Great Lakes region are not used in any global temperature records.
137 “Soares finds lack of correlation between CO2 and temperature” Soares looks at short-term trends which are swamped by natural variations while ignoring the long-term correlation.
138 “We’re heading into cooling” There is no scientific basis for claims that the planet will begin to cool in the near future.
139 “Murry Salby finds CO2 rise is natural” Multiple lines of evidence make it very clear that the rise in atmospheric CO2 is due to human emissions.
140 “CO2 emissions do not correlate with CO2 concentration” That humans are causing the rise in atmospheric CO2 is confirmed by multiple isotopic analyses.
141 “The sun is getting hotter” The sun has just had the deepest solar minimum in 100 years.
142 “It’s waste heat” Greenhouse warming is adding 100 times more heat to the climate than waste heat.
143 “Water vapor in the stratosphere stopped global warming” This possibility just means that future global warming could be even worse.
144 “It warmed just as fast in 1860-1880 and 1910-1940” The warming trend over 1970 to 2001 is greater than warming from both 1860 to 1880 and 1910 to 1940.
145 “An exponential increase in CO2 will result in a linear increase in temperature” CO2 levels are rising so fast that unless we decrease emissions, global warming will accelerate this century.
146 “Record high snow cover was set in winter 2008/2009” Winter snow cover in 2008/2009 was average while the long-term trend in spring, summer, and annual snow cover is rapid decline.
147 “Mauna Loa is a volcano” The global trend is calculated from hundreds of CO2 measuring stations and confirmed by satellites.
148 “Venus doesn’t have a runaway greenhouse effect”
Venus very likely underwent a runaway or ‘moist’ greenhouse phase earlier in its history, and today is kept hot by a dense CO2 atmosphere.
149 “Antarctica is too cold to lose ice” Glaciers are sliding faster into the ocean because ice shelves are thinning due to warming oceans.
150 “Positive feedback means runaway warming” Positive feedback won’t lead to runaway warming; diminishing returns on feedback cycles limit the amplification.
151 “Skeptics were kept out of the IPCC?” Official records, Editors and emails suggest CRU scientists acted in the spirit if not the letter of IPCC rules.
152 “Water levels correlate with sunspots” This detail is irrelevant to the observation of global warming caused by humans.
153 “CO2 was higher in the late Ordovician” The sun was much cooler during the Ordovician.
154 “CO2 increase is natural, not human-caused” Many lines of evidence, including simple accounting, demonstrate beyond a shadow of a doubt that the increase in atmospheric CO2 is due to human fossil fuel burning.
155 “It’s CFCs” CFCs contribute at a small level.
156 “Scientists retracted claim that sea levels are rising” The Siddall 2009 paper was retracted because its predicted sea level rise was too low.
157 “Warming causes CO2 rise” Recent warming is due to rising CO2.
158 “Coral atolls grow as sea levels rise” Thousands of coral atolls have “drowned” when unable to grow fast enough to survive at sea level.
159 “It’s internal variability”
Internal variability can only account for small amounts of warming and cooling over periods of decades, and scientific studies have consistently shown that it cannot account for the global warming over the past century.
160 “Greenland has only lost a tiny fraction of its ice mass” Greenland’s ice loss is accelerating & will add metres of sea level rise in upcoming centuries.
161 “DMI show cooling Arctic” While summer maximums have showed little trend, the annual average Arctic temperature has risen sharply in recent decades.
162 “Renewable energy investment kills jobs” Investment in renewable energy creates more jobs than investment in fossil fuel energy.
163 “CO2 limits won’t cool the planet” CO2 limits won’t cool the planet, but they can make the difference between continued accelerating global warming to catastrophic levels vs. slowing and eventually stopping the warming at hopefully safe levels
164 “Royal Society embraces skepticism” The Royal Society still strongly state that human activity is the dominant cause of global warming.
165 “It’s only a few degrees” A few degrees of global warming has a huge impact on ice sheets, sea levels and other aspects of climate.
166 “It’s satellite microwave transmissions” Satellite transmissions are extremely small and irrelevant.
167 “CO2 only causes 35% of global warming”
CO2 and corresponding water vapor feedback are the biggest cause of global warming.
168 “Sea level fell in 2010” The temporary drop in sea level in 2010 was due to intense land flooding caused by a strong La Nina.
169 “Arctic sea ice extent was lower in the past”
Current Arctic sea ice extent is the lowest in the past several thousand years.
170 “We didn’t have global warming during the Industrial Revolution” CO2 emissions were much smaller 100 years ago.
171 “Ljungqvist broke the hockey stick”
Ljungqvist’s temperature reconstruction is very similar to other reconstructions by Moberg and Mann.
172 “Hansen predicted the West Side Highway would be underwater”
Hansen was speculating on changes that might happen if CO2 doubled.
173 “Removing all CO2 would make little difference” Removing CO2 would cause most water in the air to rain out and cancel most of the greenhouse effect.
174 “Postma disproved the greenhouse effect” Postma’s model contains many simple errors; in no way does Postma undermine the existence or necessity of the greenhouse effect.
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The curious responses of so many commenters here that this idea of focusing on the cost of adaptation versus the cost of attempting to block climate change is to throw a life-line to the IPCC and global warmists in general, is cause for concern. Surely it is obvious that it does no such thing. Surely it is obvious that to say “even if the IPCC is right about CO2 and man-made global warming, it will be far cheaper to adapt than to suppress CO2 production” does not help the IPCC or warmists. What it does is destroy their entire case for spending large sums of money on reduction of CO2 emissions.
However, as so many commenters seem to think it does help the IPCC and warmists, it will be very important in the construction of the 50 to 1 argument, to explain in very simple terms why it does not. I will make no attempt to set out how this should be done as it is self-evident, but strongly advise the authors of the project to take on board how resistant some people obviously are to the simple logic of the case.

Simply claiming that ten-year C/B analysis can be extended indefinitely does not make it true.
The rising cost of adaptation is very gradual. The effects of any mitigation are also gradual. The costs of mitigation might be longterm, but they will be nearly instantaneously apparent. I don’t think anyone on the “warmist” side who has any idea what they are talking about would be surprised that ten-year costs of mitigation might exceed adaptation. I personally would have assumed it was true already, and it certainly hasn’t made me worry about warming any less.
I once attended a lecture by a traveling creationist speaker at a small church in Oklahoma. In it, he talked about Jurassic Park. He said Jurassic Park was Lucifer’s way of making kids love Charles Darwin. And so he set about debunking the science behind the movie(not the book, I don’t think he was a reader). The audience ate it up. The guy looked smart to them. I was young, about 15, but I still thought it was amusing, as did most of my friends. Why? Because every advocate of keeping creationism away from schools already knew that Jurassic Park was fiction.
He was arguing against a point nobody was making.
Likewise, this film will be arguing against a point nobody is making. It will only make for easy cannon fodder in the greater debate. If you want me to believe that a complete anti-regulatory stance is reasonable, you’re going to have to disprove the points that actually are being made, not the scarecrows you set up.

Although I expect the ’50-to-1′ project about the economic costs of harm from burning fossil fuels will be stimulating to the ongoing climate dialog, it contains a logically unjustifiable acceptance of the fundamentally false premise of harmfulness .
I recommend to include a introductory building block reference to the following central discussion in the ’50-to-1′ economic cost project and then I will enthusiastically support it.
The missing fundamental concept in the ’50-to-1′ project, in my thinking, is that burning fossil fuel is not reasonably shown to have a net harmful impact to life. Again, please include that concept . . . make a ~9 minute video instead of a 7 min video.
The dialog continues . . .
John

I didn’t write anything long-winded, lol. And I certainly wasn’t attempting to advocate for climate action. I’m just saying that the central claim of the video is one that many non-conspiracy individuals will agree with.
The reaction from the left to this video will be summed up in one word:
Duh.

Wasn’t this concept more or less the basis of Bjorn Lomborg’s book 10-12 years ago? It got good coverage and sales, and he was on talk shows, etc., but did it change the attitude of the warmists or the great unwashed? These are the same folks who will insist that “you can’t put a price on human life.” I’d like to contribute if I saw something really new here, but I think it would be a big mistake to give any ground on global warming as being permanent or man-caused, especially with the film being promoted as a game-changer through WUWT. I would expect a barrage of out-of-context attacks regardless of how meticulously it was put together. Mother Nature seems to be clearing it up anyway, which is really the only way we will win the argument politically.

Frank Legge says:
May 4, 2013 at 6:06 am
The curious responses of so many commenters here that this idea of focusing on the cost of adaptation versus the cost of attempting to block climate change is to throw a life-line to the IPCC and global warmists in general, is cause for concern. Surely it is obvious that it does no such thing.

The fact that this very point is the most discussed in this thread is obvious evidence you are wrong.