Cook “the books” is wrong to slam Roy Spencer
By Christopher Monckton of Brenchley
Anyone who has met Roy Spencer knows him to be a careful, thoughtful, unpolemical scientist of formidable skill and knowledge. With John Christy he presents the monthly real-world data from the microwave sounding unit satellites that provide the least inaccurate global temperature record we have.
The satellites reveal the inconvenient truth that there has been no global warming for approaching two decades.
However, John Cook, the cartoonist turned warming fanatic who runs the misleadingly-named Skeptical Science website, has just posted a piece by his still more fanatical sidekick, Dana Nuccitelli, attacking Roy Spencer’s recent verbatim interview with the Catholic Online website.
Cook “the books” has a favorite small-boy yah-boo tactic. He condemns anyone who raises any question about “global warming”, however sensible, as perpetrating or perpetuating what he calls “climate myths”.
Sure enough, his latest characteristically malevolent hatchet-job is entitled “Roy Spencer’s Catholic Online Climate Myths”. It appears next to a sidebar headed “Most-Used Climate Myths”. You will also find plenty of other alleged “Myths” at Cook The Books’ website, including Monckton Myths.
Nuccitelli begins by condemning Roy Spencer for saying, “No one knows whether it is currently warming, because we only see warming in the rear-view mirror, after it has occurred.” This truism is characteristic of Roy, who gently nudges the language of climate science in the direction of greater rigor. One cannot measure that it is warming, only that it has warmed.
Yet Nuccitelli, in a fine illustration of that blind faith that TH Huxley denounced in 1860 as “the one unpardonable sin”, asserts that “We absolutely do know that the planet is currently warming”.
He references this assertion by a link to another page of Skeptical Science that provides multiple lines of evidence for the proposition, agreed – as St. Vincent of Lerins used to put it, fere omnibus (by very nearly everyone) that the planet has been warming. But not that it currently is warming.
Nuccitelli adds, “We know that the planet will continue to warm as long as we continue to increase the greenhouse effect.” Again, he would have benefited from a more careful use of language. We know that adding CO2 or other greenhouse gases to the air will cause warming, but that cannot prevent natural factors from causing a countervailing cooling from time to time, which is why we have had the 17-year “pause” in global warming that Railroad Engineer Pachauri has now admitted. Spencer 1, Nuccitelli 0.
Next, Nuccitelli attacks Roy Spencer for having said it was entirely possible that summer sea-ice melt was no worse now than it had been in the 1920s and 1930s, when explorers had reported unprecedented warming and loss of sea ice in the Arctic.
Yet he fails to admit that the reports – for instance, an often-quoted report from 1922 about the unprecedented Arctic warming and loss of sea ice observed by meteorologists – support what Roy Spencer says and are inconsistent with the largely speculative results in the various papers suggesting sea ice extent scarcely changed until it began to decline in the 1970s.
He also fails to explain how the global warming from 1860-1880 and again from 1910-1940, which occurred at exactly the same rate as the warming from 1976-2001, did not cause any loss of sea-ice extent. Spencer 2, Nuccitelli 0.
Nuccitelli then turns to the embarrassing increase in Antarctic sea-ice extent mentioned by Roy Spencer, and produces various papers saying more sea-ice in Antarctica is what we should expect from global warming.
However, he very carefully fails to mention that Antarctica has been cooling during the 33 years of satellite observation. Warming during the satellite era has not been global, suggesting, as recent papers have confirmed, that a naturally-occurring change in advection of warmth from the tropics to the Arctic – but not to the Antarctic – is the chief cause of melting Arctic sea ice. Spencer 3, Nuccitelli 0.
Onward to superstorms. Roy Spencer had said there has been no increase in superstorms, which happen every year. Sandy was unusual only in that it happened over a built-up area. Nuccitelli cites Kerry Emanuel’s paper of 2005 showing an increase in hurricane strength over previous decades.
He is culpably silent on Dr. Ryan Maue’s Accumulated Cyclone Energy index, which shows that since 2005 the combined frequency, intensity, and duration of all tropical cyclones, hurricanes, and typhoons worldwide, expressed as a 24-month running sum, shows the least activity in the entire satellite record. Spencer 4, Nuccitelli 0.
Nuccitelli moves on to condemn Roy Spencer for saying, “The consensus is only that humans are contributing to warming,” and to announce (blind faith again) that “Humans are Causing Global Warming”.
He cites various papers asserting that human greenhouse-gas emissions are the dominant cause of the global warming over the past 50-100 years. However, he fails to take account of the startling absence of correlation between the rate of increase in CO2 concentration and the rate of increase in temperature.
Like many true-believers, he is insufficiently trained in logic to know that absence of correlation between two datasets necessarily indicates absence of causation between them. The sharp fluctuations in global temperature in phase with the 60-year cycles of the ocean oscillations are not correlated with the monotonic changes in CO2 concentration.
Since the rate of warming from 1976-2001, to which we could in theory have contributed, is statistically indistinguishable in the rates from 1860-1880 and from 1910-1940, to which we could not, Roy Spencer was right to say we cannot easily disentangle the anthropogenic from the natural contributions to warming. Spencer 5, Nuccitelli 0.
On to the biggest scare of them all: sea-level rise. Here, Roy Spencer concedes that “Sea levels have indeed increased, which probably is a sign of warming.” However, he goes on to say, “It is difficult to attribute the current rate of rise to humans when we don’t know how much of the rise is natural.”
Nuccitelli’s answer to this unexceptionable and temperately-expressed statement is that sea level rises chiefly through thermal expansion and melting land ice, so it is all our fault. However, it ought to have been obvious even to Nuccitelli thermal expansion and land-ice melt happen whether Man or nature is the cause.
Also, as Peltier (2009) points out, the GRACE gravitational-anomaly record indicates that sea level has actually fallen in recent years. The raw data from the Envisat satellite from 2004-2012 show sea level rising at a rate equivalent to an unalarming 3.2 cm/century:
Professor Niklas Mörner, who was told in 2004 by a sea-level specialist at the University of Colorado that the data from the TOPEX/Poseidon and Jason satellites were tilted to create an artificial impression of a rate of sea-level rise that is not in fact occurring, says his central estimate is that sea level will rise this century by 5 ± 15cm, or 2 ± 6 inches. Spencer 6, Nuccitelli 0.
Next, Nuccitelli takes Roy Spencer to task for daring to suggest that there has been very little research into the natural causes of climate change. Anyone who has seen the video of the Fellows of the Royal Society baying and howling with rent-seeking fury when Dr. Henrik Svensmark gently explained his cosmic-ray displacement theory of cloud nucleation to them will swiftly realize that an overwhelming and undue emphasis in climate research and funding over recent decades has been on anthropogenic and not natural influences. Spencer 7, Nuccitelli 0.
Nuccitelli blows it altogether when he says Roy Spencer’s closing remark that “The warming has been only 50% of what the consensus of climate models says it should be” is “just flat-out ridiculously wrong.”
Well, here are the facts. The IPCC said in 1990, at page xii, “Under the IPCC business-as-usual (Scenario A) emissions of greenhouse gases, the average rate of increase of global mean temperature during the next century is estimated to be about 0.2-0.5 Cº/decade.” The observed warming rate from 1990-2013, according to HadCRUt, is about half that.
Nuccitelli may like to look at the second-order draft of the IPCC’s 2013 Fifth Assessment Report, to which I have added the trend-line through the real-world observed temperature change since 1990:
All four of the IPCC’s Assessment Reports have flagrantly 0ver-predicted the rate of global warming that should have occurred by now. On this central question, the “consensus” has been wrong not once, not twice, not thrice, but four times out of four, and is about to be wrong a fifth time. Nuccitelli’s blind faith in the IPCC’s capacity to predict temperature change seems misplaced. Spencer 8, Nuccitelli 0.
Nuccitelli ends by saying, “Overall, Spencer made very few factually correct statements in this interview.” On any other subject but this, where true-believers such as Nuccitelli now routinely get away with outrageous falsehoods that smear the reputations of any scientists bold enough to raise even the mildest questions about the New Religion, that remark would have led to a libel suit.
Here is why. Below I have enumerated the 60 factually correct statements in Roy Spencer’s interview. There are no factually incorrect statements.
1: Roy Spencer has a PhD in meteorology. 2: Roy Spencer has been doing climate research for over 20 years. 3: His research has been mostly under contract to NASA, NOAA, and DOE. 4: He has testified in Congress several times on the general subject of climate change. 5: He has published two popular books on the global warming issue.
6: He has have an amateur interest in basic economics. 7: He has self-published a small book which is now used in a college economics cours. 8: His research has always been supported 100% by the US Government. 9: No one knows whether it is currently warming. 10: Warming seems to have stopped about 15 years ago.
11: There is some evidence that the deep ocean has continued to warm by hundredths of a degree. 12: The world has warmed for 50-100 years. 13: We started satellite monitoring of sea ice in 1979 after an extended cold period in the Arctic. 14: It is possible that sea-ice melt now is no worse than in the 1920s-1930s. 15: Humans could not have been responsible for warming in the 1920s-1930s.
16: We cannot know the extent to which we are responsible for Arctic sea-ice melt. 17: Since 1979, Antarctic sea ice has increased. 18: There has been no increase in superstorms or tornadoes. 19: Sandy-class storms occur every year. 20: Sandy-class storms do not usually hit high-density urban areas. 20: Sea levels have increased.
21: The increase in sea level is probably an indication of warming. 22: Sea levels were rising well before 1900. 23: We could not have been to blame for sea level rise before 1900. 24: The rate of sea-level rise is slow. 25: It is difficult to attribute the current rate of rise to us.
26: We do not know how much of the sea-level rise is natural. 27: It is possible that the ocean is absorbing more heat than was expected. 28: The oceans are big enough to absorb all of the warming caused by increasing CO2 with a temperature rise of just 0.1 Cº. 29: We have no means of knowing whether the oceans are absorbing all of the warming caused by us. 30: We have no means of knowing whether the oceans will continue to absorb all of the warming caused by us.
31: The CO2-induced reduction in the Earth’s capacity to cool to space has fallen by only 1%. 32: The CO2-induced reduction in the Earth’s cooling capacity is a very weak forcing of the climate system. 33: The deep ocean has warmed by only 0.2% since the 1950s. 34: The warming of the deep ocean has been very small. 35: Current solar and wind technologies are expensive.
36: Wind and solar are unreliable. 37: They can only replace a small fraction of our energy need. 38: Today’s economy runs on inexpensive energy. 39: To grow the economy we will need to use fossil fuels to generate extra wealth. 40: We will need to burn more fossil fuels to find replacements for fossil fuels.
41: The consensus is only that humans are contributing to warming. 42: Roy Spencer agrees with that consensus. 43: Only a small number of scientists know enough about climate sensitivity to have an informed opinion. 44: Only a few of us work on the question how sensitive is the climate system. 45: Only a few of us know how much uncertainty there is.
46: Most climate researchers simply assume recent warming is manmade. 47: Human causation is only one possible explanation out of several. 48: It is theoretically possible that Al Gore is correct. 49: The subject of global warming has become politicized. 50: There are financial winners and losers from policy outcomes.
51: Climate science has become hopelessly corrupted. 52: Roy Spencer and others have told Congress we need a “red team”, where a small fraction of climate research funding is put towards studying natural causes of climate change. 53: There is very little research into natural causes of climate change.
54: Roy Spencer has been wrong many times. 55: In research, we are usually wrong with our initial opinions. 55: It is much easier to be wrong than right.
56: There are many potential explanations for what we see in nature. 57: Roy Spencer usually determines in a matter of days, weeks, or months that he was wrong. 58: He has seen nothing to change my view that we have no way of knowing how much of our current warmth is human-caused. 59: Even if it is 100% human-caused, the warming has been only 50% of what the consensus of climate models says it should be. 60: If the consensus changes to reflect real-world outcomes, we shall have twice as much time to solve the climate problem. Spencer 60, Nuccitelli 0
Above all, there is a striking contrast between the careful, measured, balanced tone of Roy Spencer’s facts, which I have summarized above, and the intemperate, hate-filled Gish gallop of cherry-picked citations, half-truths, and outright falsehoods of which Nuccitelli is – yet again – guilty.
Skeptics like Lord Monckton only have to prove plausible doubt about the AGW hypothesis, while the proponents have to prove something like high probability. Their claims of high probability are exposed as mistaken or miscalculated time and time again on websites like this one and ClimateAudit. Monckton and others are continuing to prove that their doubts are solid and well-founded. That’s why the debate is shifting imperceptibly but most assuredly in the direction of falsification of most of the theory, and in particular the parts that phrophesize catastrophe. I say “prophesize” and not “predict” for good reason since it’s becoming increasingly clear that many of the predictions were based on gut instinct and, dare I say it?, wishful thinking.
My comment at 8.44am was directed at PNik by the way.
Facts trumping beliefs as usual. Dana is deranged if he thinks he can carry on with this/his stupid beliefs much longer. At some stage, surely (?) – these blinkered zealots will have to accept that we simply do not know everything and their precious models are flawed……in the meantime, the squawking and kicking beinf raised by the likes of him and other warmists is kind of like watching the death throes of some snake devouring its own body!
J. Bob says
Gotta love skeptic science (?) getting involved.
henry says
True. It is important. And we have to get involved because a cooling future could be a bit of a challenge.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/05/01/nuccitelli-gets-a-bruising-by-the-factual-hand-of-monckton/#comment-1294522
Great take away quote from Dr. Spencer on scientists and ‘consensus’: “…a very small number of those scientists know enough about such a detailed subject to have an informed opinion on the subject. Only a few of us actively working on questions “how sensitive is the climate system?” know the dirty details of this business and how much uncertainty there is.”
And then, of course, there is the Nuticelli with no Ph.D. in anything.
vukcevic says
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/05/01/nuccitelli-gets-a-bruising-by-the-factual-hand-of-monckton/#comment-1294689
henry says
I had exactly the same experience there!!!
“We know that adding CO2 or other greenhouse gases to the air will cause warming,”
Νο, we do NOT know this at all.
1) CO2 has a very small IR-absorption band and thus only absorbs a little energy.
2) Our atmosphere is not a greenhouse and there is no such thing as “trapped” energy. In like fashion “greenhouse gases” do not exist.
3) The CO2 and water vapor that they claim is warming the Earth’s surface (and then the climate by conduction) is in the upper troposphere which is at -17 deg C. The Earth’s surface averages 15 deg C. Simple, rock-solid basic thermodynamics clearly indicates that a cold object CANNOT warm a hot object. It is simply impossible for radiative energy from the cold energy levels of the upper tropospheric gases to find similar empty energy levels at the Earth’s surface; these energy levels are full and the radiation from altitude will be reflected back to space.
4) IR radiation passing through the atmosphere is not temperature and it is only in the thin upper atmosphere that Raleigh scattering allows some of the outgoing radiation to be scattered downward. Not only is this gas too thin, but it is too cold to do what they say. It would have to be in the 1000s of deg C to have enough energy to heat the surface at all. -17 deg C does not make the cut.
5) Computer models that indicate that CO2 causes warming are built to show this and also do not model a planet with night-time, during which CO2 and water vapor, if they act as efficiently as they claim, would actively cool the planet, unimpeded by incoming solar radiation. During the day, these gases would be working at cross-purposes, both absorbing and emitting IR radiation. Thus, during the day, CO2 would be a wash and have no effect.
6) These same computer models ignore the huge, global heat engine of the water cycle which carries as much as 85% of the energy budget (Trenberth’s missing heat) to altitude where water’s latent heat is released and emitted to space. This is a massive negative feedback mechanism and one that simply cannot be ignored without losing all scientific integrity.
Thus, the quote at the top is an unbiased assumption that may be a fun discussion question, but it is far from true. CO2 has been much higher than now (as high as 550 ppm, only 398 ppm now) during three periods of the last 200 years and warming was not a problem, except that warming preceded CO2 rises.
HenryP says:
“Anyway, can I ask you all here a big favor? Could anyone of you please have a look at the above log?”
I very much liked your global warming essay. I was skeptical about biblical references right away, but yours were apt. All in all, your essay should help open millions of minds if promulgated in church literature. I wish you the best of luck.
Ed-B says
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/05/01/nuccitelli-gets-a-bruising-by-the-factual-hand-of-monckton/#comment-1294778
Henry says
Thanks. I do appreciate that. God bless you.
higley saya
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/05/01/nuccitelli-gets-a-bruising-by-the-factual-hand-of-monckton/#comment-1294759
henry says
also very true.
what did you think of my proposed communication to the larger religious media/
http://blogs.24.com/henryp/2013/04/29/the-climate-is-changing/#comment-334
Looks like Nuccitelli has been nuked by his Lordship!
M Courtney says:
May 2, 2013 at 12:15 am
Nuccitelli is just troll-bait for the Guardian…. In showbiz terms, he is a clown.
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Nuccitelli is a clown? Send him over here to Red Neck country and we will teach him how to be a REAL Glo-Bull Warming Clown PHOTO (Hope he runs fast or he weren’t no fun t’all.)
Re: Higley7 @0951, 5/2/13 — “’We know that adding CO2 or other greenhouse gases to the air will cause warming,’ [quoting Monckton]
Νο, we do NOT know this at all. … .”
I was glad to read your well-written post, Higley. I shook my head at that one, too, but, refrained from mentioning it, for it would have taken me a very long time to have come up with a refutation (and it would not have been nearly as good as yours). That I didn’t address what to me was an odd (anomalous, I’d say!), gross, mis-statement from the author, bugged me. So glad you did!
@ur momisugly J. Bob re: 0841, 5/2/13, Way to go! We CAN make a difference, each one of us, as he or she has opportunity. THAT was encouraging.
Stephen Richards said
“Pat, if you can get UK TV, BBC SW spotlight, a local news program, have been driving a tiny electric car across the sw of UK. Started last night and had to recharge once at a house and second time in a parking spot (wasn’t clear where or cost etc deliberately I suspect). They are due to finish the slot this evening. Should be interesting to see haw the BBC report this one.”
By one of lifes great coincidences we were passing the electric car at exactly the time it was being plugged in by-it must be said-a somewhat sceptical ‘spotlight’ presenter.
It was done outside the ODE cafe here in my home village of Shaldon South Devon. It then had to go up a very steep hill in order to get out of the village and the order of the day were no lights, wipers, heaters, radio etc
Tonyb
That Dana1981 is a real piece of work. Here’s my own bruising on one particular point. In the SKS article, dana1981 states: “While we didn’t have satellites monitoring Arctic sea ice in the 1920s or 1930s or 1940s, all available data indicate that Arctic sea ice was much, much more extensive during that timeframe than today.”
That statement is flat out false and can easily be refuted with one post here by somebody named Tony Brown who digs into a fair amount of research about this very question: http://judithcurry.com/2013/04/10/historic-variations-in-arctic-sea-ice-part-ii-1920-1950/
FTA: “Like many true-believers, he is insufficiently trained in logic to know that absence of correlation between two datasets necessarily indicates absence of causation between them. The sharp fluctuations in global temperature in phase with the 60-year cycles of the ocean oscillations are not correlated with the monotonic changes in CO2 concentration.”
But, the fluctuations in CO2 concentration are correlated with the global temperature. Which means that the temperature is driving the CO2, and not the reverse.
Just to confirm, in response to one or two comments: Peltier’s 2009 paper does indeed say that the GRACE gravitational-anomaly satellites show sea level as having fallen: “Insofar as the raw data are concerned … over the entire area of the global ocean not only is no increase in mass inferred to be occurring, but the mass contained within these basins is actually inferred to be decreasing.”
Gail Combs says:
May 2, 2013 at 11:16 am
Amusing but that clown looks more aware of the real world around him than the clowns I meant.
Mpcraig
Thanks for your reference to my article on arctic ice 1920 to 1940
Due to space constraints the article was severely pruned. In due course I shall put out the complete version which has approx another 50 science papers. People also send me stuff and provide new references which I shall be following up.
The official sea ice record for the period needs substantial revision as the ice estimates are way overstated. I think a lot of this can be put down to a general reluctance of scientists to look at older papers, in this case those from 1930 and 1940, a greater availability today of material not available when the sea ice records were created, generally the 1970’s, and an apparent reluctance to use Russian research Of the time due to the ‘cold’ war?
Tonyb
Monckton of Brenchley says:
May 2, 2013 at 1:23 pm
Just to confirm, in response to one or two comments: Peltier’s 2009 paper does indeed say that the GRACE gravitational-anomaly satellites show sea level as having fallen: “Insofar as the raw data are concerned … over the entire area of the global ocean not only is no increase in mass inferred to be occurring, but the mass contained within these basins is actually inferred to be decreasing.”
Indeed, but subsequent data shows that there has been significant increase since the minimum in 2010.
http://podaac.jpl.nasa.gov/OceanEvents/GRACE_2010-11_GMSL_ENSO_Oct2012
Which continues:
http://sealevel.colorado.edu/
There are two 20s and two 55s so there are 62 points made.
Roy Spencer is a very honest scientist (a quite rare breed) but when dealing with corrupt and dishonest people this can be a great disadvantage – he allows for all the uncertainty but his opponents claim only absolute certainty.
sea-ice melt was no worse now than it had been in the 1920s and 1930s, when explorers had reported unprecedented warming and loss of sea ice in the Arctic.
we know from ships logs from 1818 – 1856 that the arctic sea ice was about the same as today.
http://seagrant.uaf.edu/nosb/2005/resources/arctic-explorers.pdf
Thanks, Christopher, Lord Monckton.
This is a very good article!
The Galileo Movement held John Cook accountable by asking him for empirical scientific evidence that HUMAN CO2 caused Earth’s latest modest cyclic global ATMOSPHERIC warming that ended in 1998.
His response? Jokes to avoid answering.
No one at Skeptical ‘Science’ could provide any empirical scientific evidence of human warming.
He no longer posts on TGM FaceBook. No fun.