Retired NASA GISS chief James Hansen is Slagging Canada’s Oil Sands Again
Canada’s Environment *Resources Minister Joe Oliver is calling out Jim Hansen for exaggerating claims that the oil sands and Keystone XL pipeline is “game over for the environment.”
“A retired NASA scientist is exaggerating when he claims Canada’s oil sands development is an environmental scourge, federal environment minister Joe Oliver said on Wednesday.
“It does not advance the debate when people make exaggerated comments that are not rooted in the facts. And [scientist James Hansen] should know that,” Oliver told reporters in Washington, D.C., CBC reported.”
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http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/04/25/natural-resources-minister/
Story submitted by WUWT reader John Marincic
* John Marincic adds at 2013/04/25 at 12:51 pm in comments
Anthony, when I posted this NP had him as the Environment Minister. He is the Natural Resources Minister and NP changed the title on me. If you want to correct the post please be my guest.
Thx, John
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Minister of Natural Resources . . .
http://www.pm.gc.ca/eng/bio.asp?id=100
Well, well another crack in the foundation of the Berlin Wall of climate change. The tidal wave is building!
So, transport by rail car and tank truck has a lessor environmental footprint, Mr. Hansen?
I wonder who is paying Hansen now? Anyone Know?
Anthony, when I posted this NP had him as the Environment Minister. He is the Natural Resources Minister and NP changed the title on me. If you want to correct the post please be my guest.
Thx, John
I work the oil sand, and have for more then twenty years as do my daughter, and my wife. We live here, breathe the air here, drink the water here, and if anyone thinks for one second we are deliberately harming ourselves, our own children, then you’re bloody insane. We pay $15 a ton in carbon taxes as is. You can access our air quality monitoring stations 24/7/365 on the internet anytime you wish as see for yourself. Canada as a whole emits 0.02% carbon. The oil sands emits 1/10 of 0.02% carbon. Our transportation in Canada emits far more then the oil sands. Hansen is an idiot, as are all eco protestors who know nothing about the oil sands let alone the oil and gas business. The American alternative is Middle East or South American oil and gas – good luck with any environmental regulations from any of those guys.
To let America be held hostage to a few thousand eco freaks is laughable. Any sane government would have the balls to put their nation first under such circumstances. Even a roughneck like me understands the benefits of a North American energy strategy.
jb frodsham says:
April 25, 2013 at 12:46 pm
I wonder who is paying Hansen now? Anyone Know?
I think he is still an Adjunct Professor at Columbia University. His CAGW alarmism does fit perfectly within the modern academic bubble/echo chamber environment…
By the way, look for Hansen to return to NASA (funding-wise) as a highly paid “consultant”.
@jb…. Either the Saudis are paying him to stifle North American oil production, or Warren Buffett to make sure that in the US it is carried by BNSF!
Hansen is so extreme I do wonder if he is ill.
Of course Hansen knows that. That’s what he’s based his career on.
“Hansen is so extreme I do wonder if he is ill”
His extremeness has brought in billions for NASA. Seems to me he liked to think he was the wonderboy in the organiztion.
Canada has a Minister of the Environment. It is not Joseph Oliver. Oliver’s job is to to use resources and Hansen is in his way.
Good for Joe Oliver. Call Hansen on his exaggerations. Maybe the media will be forced to report two sides on the matter.
“It does not advance the debate when people make exaggerated comments that are not rooted in the facts. And [scientist James Hansen] should know that,” Oliver told reporters …
Ouch!
Hansen’s objection to tar sands oil is the excessive amount of energy it takes to extract it. Has anyone done a comparison to ethanol’s energy requiremants vs. tar sand oil on a Btu basis? That would be interesting. And remember, ethanol can’t be moved in energy efficient pipelines, it generally is generally transported in smelly, polluting diesel trucks.
Did anyone else immediately notice the typically dishonest and emotionally manipulative ploy of using a cold weather picture for the Oilsands processing plant? Billows of steam look very scary that way.
And I’m embarrassed when I read what “some” Canadians write on that National Post item. There are stupid and gullible people everywhere.
I’ve written some analysis here:
Lab Coats Don’t Make You Infallible (Oliver vs Hansen)
I have yet to see a north american politician have enough balls to declare AGW hog wash. They won’t because they always play both sides of the equation for the next election. Term limits is the only answer. It’s about maintaining their control and been elected. Oliver has flip flopped on AGW countless times. He is a spineless politician.
Hansen deserves a big “consulting” fee from OPEC for his work to maintain high oil prices and stifle competition. Anyone care to do an energy comparo between oil sand extraction and
the many pumped storage facilities Moonbeam Brown is building in California – each with a price tag not far from the cost of a nuclear plant. And those facilities extract almost 30% of the energy just for storage.
Taxedtodeath says:
April 25, 2013 at 1:42 pm
“I have yet to see a north american politician have enough balls to declare AGW hog wash.”
Inhofe. Wish we had one like him in Germany.
Taxedtodeath says:
April 25, 2013 at 1:42 pm
“I have yet to see a north american politician have enough balls to declare AGW hog wash. They won’t because they always play both sides of the equation for the next election. Term limits is the only answer. It’s about maintaining their control and been elected. …”
James Inhofe, R (Oklahoma)
My first summer job (off the farm) during summer break in High School was on the Tar Sands in 1966 working on the construction of what then was the GCOS (Great Canadian Oil Sands) plant. Bucket wheel technology. I believe it was meant to be the first producing extraction plant. As a 17 year old kid I worked 12 hours a day 6 and sometimes 7 days a week and made nothing but money. That 2 months of summer paid for a year of university and also bought me a car and some other toys. It was also an education in industrial relations, corporate shenanigans, communal living, getting along with French Canadians, fighting forest fires, pleasing the boss, thinking for myself, learning from ex cons, playing tennis and watching movies, swatting mosquitoes, union games and wages, and protecting my integrity. There was no actual Fort McMurray at the time, only a small airport, a hotel (and busy bar) and a hospital. One of the great adventures of my life. And I count the whole thing as an environmental triumph.Reclaiming the sand from the polluting tar. And that’s what goes on today, only on a grander scale. We are just removing toxic waste from the environment. Nothing wrong with that. When it’s all done the land will be better off, and in the process workers and investors and their families will be enriched and the North America marketplace will be serviced with abundant energy without stirring up Arabia unnecessarily. It’s all win win. I know it has been said before, but I’ll chime in- James Hansen is an egotistical idiot.
I should have said “publically declare AGW hog wash”. Many politicians in private discussion will say it’s B.S. but never to the media.
albertalad said:
April 25, 2013 at 12:52 pm
To let America be held hostage to a few thousand eco freaks is laughable. Any sane government would have the balls to put their nation first under such circumstances.
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“Any sane government….”
We haven’t had one of those in quite a while.
albertalad says:
April 25, 2013 at 12:52 pm
“To let America be held hostage to a few thousand eco freaks is laughable. Any sane government would have the balls to put their nation first under such circumstances. ”
The eco freaks are only the sponsored shock troops. American presidential candidates are selected by the CFR and the Bilderbergers which are round table groups formed since Milner, the guy who had the job to turn Cecil Rhodes will into practice; forming a “secret society” to run the empire. Bill Clinton was a Rhodes scholar; the Rhodes scholarships are paid for by the fortune of Cecil Rhodes, promoting his vision of one world government.
See Quigley’s Targedy And Hope. Quigley was Clinton’s professor and in favor of the “secret societies”.
Here is Cecil Rhodes’ last will with a search for the term “secret society”.
http://archive.org/stream/lastwilltestamen00rhodiala#page/196/mode/2up/search/secret+society
So you have to understand, the president of the US and the eco freaks work for the same group.