People send me stuff.
This morning my inbox had a forwarded Twitter item about a Tammy post where supposedly none of what McIntyre discovered about the dating problems in Marcott et al hockey stick “matter”, because “Tamino” has proven otherwise, even though Marcott’s PhD thesis with the same proxy data (but not arbitrarily re-dated) does not show the 20th century uptick. But, all Tamino did is throw some artificially generated spikes into the mix, run a process where he doesn’t show the code/work, and say “trust me”. It is amusing. We’ll save that for a future examination, as I’d like to see what Mr. McIntyre has to say.
In the meantime, Josh has a cartoon about a previous episode from Tammyworld:
Josh writes:
Tamino’s recent posts on Marcott et al bear an uncanny similarity to Steve McIntyre’s work at Climate Audit. Dave Burton noticed and commented:
Grant, I find it just plain bizarre that you wrote all this and never even mentioned Steve McIntyre, who first figured out what Marcott had done wrong, and whose excellent work is the whole reason you wrote this.
H/t WUWT
This cartoon imagines Tamino, aka statistician and folk singer Grant Foster, putting things right. Do suggest some more songs that Tamino might like to try. I am sure he will be very grateful.
After getting the email this morning, I decided to look around Tammyworld a bit. What was even more amusing was his post about hydraulic fracturing aka “fracking” and earthquakes, where he tries to show a correlation between recent hockey stick style upticks in low magnitude earthquakes in Oklahoma. Of course as anyone who follows the energy debate knows, “fracking” is the recently “discovered” evil incarnate process, even though it has been in use since 1949, and prior to that they used nitroglycerine to do the same job of enhancing well production by fracturing rock nearby the well casing.
There’s another Josh cartoon in this one, read on.
Tamino leads with:
Mother Jones reports on recent earthquakes in regions not accustomed to much seismic activity, Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Ohio. Much of their story consists of anecdotal evidence, particularly the strongest earthquake in Oklahoma history at magnitude 5.6 in November 2011, which happened along a fault which a Univ. of Oklahoma geophysics professor referred to as “a dead fault that nobody ever worried about.” Since this quake “injured two people, destroyed 14 homes, toppled headstones, closed schools, and was felt in 17 states,” people are starting to worry.
I’ve highlighted the stick Tamino focused on.
http://tamino.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/normnum1.jpg
He plots the Oklahoma data and gosh it sure looks like another recent man-made event doesn’t it?
Source: http://tamino.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/ok1.jpg
His conclusion:
So far, the fossil-fuel industry has denied any connection between recent earthquake activity and oil/gas production. The U.S. Geological Survey disagrees. Who you gonna believe?
At first I thought maybe he had a valid point, because the data presented sure looks convincing, and I started looking for data about the number of new wells drilled in Oklahoma to see if it supported his claim, but midway through the search process I started laughing, when I realized Tamino’s vision is just another case of this:
Thanks to Josh for allowing the borrowing and amending of his original cartoon for our entertainment today.
You see, I thought I’d have to do some data wrangling and plotting to see if Tamino’s point was really valid or not. But then, I realized that much like Mann’s hockey stick, and the Yamal incident, where some data that might not support the premise was excluded, so it was with the case with Tamino’s fracktastic analysis.
Some background. Some claim that this paper…
Examination of Possibly Induced Seismicity from Hydraulic Fracturing in the Eola Field, Garvin County, Oklahoma Oklahoma Geological Survey / by Austin Holland
http://www.ogs.ou.edu/pubsscanned/openfile/OF1_2011.pdf
[From the Report]
Our analysis showed that shortly after hydraulic fracturing began small earthquakes started occurring, and more than 50 were identified, of which 43 were large enough to be located. Most of these earthquakes occurred within a 24 hour period after hydraulic fracturing operations had ceased. There have been previous cases where seismologists have suggested a link between hydraulic fracturing and earthquakes, but data was limited, so drawing a definitive conclusion was not possible for these cases.
…”proves” that there is a link between fracturing and Earthquakes. Maybe there is, but I thought to myself, “the past, like the blade of the infamous hockey stick is flat, if fracking has been around since 1949, why isn’t there more spikes in earlier data in Tamino’s plot”? Surely, there must have been some fracking going on in oil-rich Oklahoma before 2009 when the uptick started.
The USGS report on the Nov 6th 2011 quake in Oklahoma states:
The magnitude 4.7 and 5.6 earthquakes that occurred on November 5, 2011, were situated in a region located about 50 km east of Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Earthquakes are not unusual in Oklahoma, but they often are too small to be felt. From 1972-2008 about 2-6 earthquakes a year were recorded by the USGS National Earthquake Information Center; these earthquakes were scattered broadly across the east-central part of the state. In 2008 the rate of earthquakes began to rise, with over a dozen earthquakes occurring in the region east- northeast of Oklahoma City and southwest of Tulsa, Oklahoma. In 2009 the rate of seismicity continued to climb, with nearly 50 earthquakes recorded–many big enough to be felt. In 2010 this activity continued. The magnitude 4.7 and 5.6 earthquakes of November 5, 2011, are the largest events recorded during this period of increased seismicity. Additionally, the M5.6 quake is the largest quake to hit Oklahoma in modern times.
There have been dozens of aftershocks recorded following the shallow November 5, 2011 magnitude 5.6 earthquake and its magnitude 4.7 foreshock that occurred on the same day. These aftershocks will continue for weeks and potentially months but will likely decrease in frequency. This is not an unusual amount of aftershock activity for a magnitude 4.7 to 5.6 earthquake sequence. There is always a small possibility of an earthquake of larger magnitude following any earthquake, but the occurrence of the magnitude 5.6 earthquake, and the increase in activity in recent years does not necessarily indicate that a larger more damaging earthquake will occur.
The word “fracking” or any reference to injection wells or drilling as a possible cause or enhancer is completely absent from the USGS report. Even Scientific American doesn’t buy the hype saying:
Did Fracking Cause Oklahoma’s Largest Recorded Earthquake?
Probably not, as the gas drilling practice tends to be associated with minor quakes, not big ones, seismologists say
It seems simply like just another few and far between earthquake event in the Midwest, like the New Madrid Earthquake, which had it occurred today, some activist would most certainly try to find a fracking connection.
Back to Oklahoma. I mused that Oklahoma really wasn’t in “boom” mode recently (compared to its past drilling history), so why the recent uptick in seismic activity? Was it natural, or enhanced by fracking? And then it hit me; I was looking at the wrong state.
Where is the biggest “boom” in fracking enhanced oil production occurring? North Dakota and Montana’s Bakken formation seen in the map at right.

From this article in Bloomberg news:
To reach the Bakken formation, a 360-million-year-old shale bed two miles underground that geologists say holds a 15,000 square-mile region of oil, companies must use a drilling method known as hydraulic fracturing, or fracking. With fracking, water is pumped down a well with sand and chemicals to crack rock and release oil. Officials estimate the field could be productive for as long as 25 years.
Wikipedia says:
New rock fracturing technology available starting in 2008 has caused a recent boom in Bakken production. By the end of 2010 oil production rates had reached 458,000 barrels (72,800 m3) per day outstripping the capacity to ship oil out of the Bakken.[8][9] The production technology gain has led a veteran industry insider to declare that the USGS estimates are too low.[10]
It stands to reason that with this much fracking going on in the biggest oil boom region in the USA in a short and recent time span, surely there must be some seismic effects as a result of it. Surely there must be a cluster of small quakes around the Bakken region?
Nope.
Locations of earthquakes with magnitude 3 or greater
Source: http://tamino.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/quakes.jpg
I have to wonder why Tamino didn’t plot the USA with magnitude 1 or greater quakes, since that dataset is what he focused his main analysis on? Just looking at magnitude 3 and greater, there isn’t much of a signal in Oklahoma anyway, and the nearby New Madrid fault seems to have more.
So, what does the USGS earthquake data that Tammy plotted say about eastern Montana and North Dakota where the big fracking boom is happening (highlighted in yellow)?
Source: http://tamino.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/normnum1.jpg
The earthquake data for the Bakken region is as flat as the plains of North Dakota itself.
So on the question of “does fracking causes earthquakes”, “Who you gonna believe?”.
I think I’ll pass on Tamino’s visions.
UPDATE: Tamino has responded,
He shows that a Scientific American article suggested that fracking was probably not the cause of Oklahoma’s biggest quake on record. And by God, if fracking isn’t wreaking seismic hell in Nebraska then Anthony Watts won’t accept that there’s any evidence of its having an impact anywhere.
LOL!
He predictably ignores the issue I point out with Bakken and lack of earthquakes there. but doubles down on Oklahoma, and then despite the act that his previous post title says:
Does Fracking Cause Earthquakes?
…he goes to plan B “look a squirrel!” and goes to the wastewater injection well argument.
Anthony Watts pushes the idea that there’s no relationship between fracking and increased earthquake activity, he won’t even consider an indirect relationship due to the wastewater injection which fracking requires. Both the U.S. Geological Survey and the National Research Council disagree. Who you gonna believe?
I’ll believe the data, and the data says there are NOT swarms of Earthquakes in the Bakken formation, but there are some in Oklahoma. This difference is an issue, and he’s offered no explanation for this conundrum.
Does fracking and its byproduct wastewater cause some earthquakes? Maybe – but correlation is not causation, much like the correlation lie activist Josh Fox made in Gasland about flammable gas in well water, which turned out to be there long before fracking. It may simply be that some areas are more sensitive than others, or some processes are better than others, but it certainly doesn’t suggest that all fracking and its byproduct wastewater injection causes earthquakes as activists would like you to believe. It has only been recently an issue since global warming “concerns” have turned it into a potential tool to shut down energy production.
So if there some small magnitude 1-3 earthquakes in Oklahoma, are they big enough to worry about, much like the small earthquakes around mining operations known for decades? Probably not. I sure don’t, only the activists seem to get upset about this.
Since Tamino cited an event in the UK, (although Wales was claimed) it is instructive to have a look at what they say on page 40 of The Royal Society report (h/t Miguelito): Shale gas extraction in the UK: a review of hydraulic fracturing June 2012 (PDF)
5.3 Seismicity induced by hydraulic fracturing
There are two types of seismicity associated with hydraulic fracturing. Microseismic events are a routine feature of hydraulic fracturing and are due to the propagation of engineered fractures (see Chapter 4). Larger seismic events are generally rare but can be induced by hydraulic fracturing in the presence of a pre-stressed fault. The energy released during hydraulic fracturing is less than the energy released by the collapse of open voids in rock formations, as occurs during coal mining. The intensity of seismicity induced by hydraulic fracturing is likely to be smaller due to the greater depth at which shale gas is extracted compared to the shallower depth of coal mining. Magnitude 3 ML may be a realistic upper limit for seismicity induced by hydraulic fracturing (Green et al 2012). If a seismic event of magnitude 3 ML occurs at depths of 2-3km, structural damage at the surface is unlikely.
…
On 1st April 2011, the Blackpool area experienced a seismic event of magnitude 2.3 ML shortly after Cuadrilla’s Preese Hall well in the Bowland Shale was hydraulically fractured. Another seismic event of magnitude 1.5 ML occurred on 27th May 2011
following renewed hydraulic fracturing of the same well.
…
Analysis of the seismic data suggests that the two events were due to the reactivation of a pre-stressed fault. In abscence of further data it is difficult to determine whether the fault was directly intersected by the well, or whether hydraulic fracturing led to pressure changes that induced a distant fault to slip.
Note this: “Magnitude 3 ML may be a realistic upper limit for seismicity induced by hydraulic fracturing (Green et al 2012).” That supports what has been said about the November 5th, 2011 magnitude 5.6 earthquake it Oklahoma – it doesn’t seem likely that it was connected to fracking, though many people (Tamino included) want it to be, because then it becomes a political tool if they can prove it.
So has this event in Blackpool stopped anything in the UK? No, the UK Shale Gas Boom is going ahead, because rational people realize that the risks are small and the benefits far outweigh those risks:
Earlier this month the UK gave the go-ahead to hydraulic fracturing, under tight regulatory conditions, a year after the practice was suspended when an exploration company triggered two small earth tremors in Lancashire.
Problem solved.
But Tamino hates fracking, hates “deniers”, and generally is just an unpleasant bloke about anything that has to do with talking point issues pushed by the left. I find him and his irrational hatred of anything associated with oil extraction wholly amusing, and it’s the best free Saturday entertainment you could ask for.
So who you gonna believe? Well I believe fracking, like any process, has some risks, and the benefits far outweigh the highly publicized events used as political tools. I also believe I’ll go fill up my gas tank and turn on my natural gas powered fireplace. – Anthony
UPDATE2 4/7/13: From a guest post last year by David Middleton:
Frohlich, 2012 found no correlation between fracking and earthquakes… NONE, NADA, ZIP, ZERO-POINT-ZERO…
Most earthquakes identified in the study ranged in magnitude from 1.5 to 2.5, meaning they posed no danger to the public.
“I didn’t find any higher risks from disposal of hydraulic fracturing fluids than was thought before,” says Frohlich.”My study found more small quakes, nearly all less than magnitude 3.0, but just more of the smaller ones than were previously known. The risk is all from big quakes, which don’t seem to occur here.”
All the wells nearest to the eight earthquake groups reported high injection rates (maximum monthly injection rates exceeding 150,000 barrels of water). Yet in many other areas where wells had similarly high injection rates, there were no earthquakes. Frohlich tried to address those differences.
Texas map showing the Barnett Shale (gray) and rectangle indicating region mapped in figure 2. Credit: Cliff Frohlich/U. of Texas at Austin.
“It might be that an injection can only trigger an earthquake if injected fluids reach and relieve friction on a nearby fault that is already ready to slip,” says Frohlich. “That just isn’t the situation in many places.”
Hydraulic fracturing is an industrial process in which water and various chemicals are pumped deep underground in order to fracture rock, allowing oil or gas to more easily flow to a well. As petroleum is produced at the surface, most hydraulic fracturing fluids return to the surface too. Frohlich is careful to point out that he did not evaluate the possible correlation of earthquakes with the actual hydraulic fracturing process, but rather the effects of disposing of fracturing fluids and other wastes in these injection wells.
And finally, as I have previously posted, the induced seismicity from fracking and most injection operations is almost entirely nonpalpable.
Discover more from Watts Up With That?
Subscribe to get the latest posts sent to your email.


![ok1[1]](http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/ok11.jpg?resize=640%2C413&quality=83)




You should overlay a US map showing where the oil and gas fields are. I think it would be pretty apparent that there is no correlation between fracing and seismic activity.
It is more apparent that seismic activity occurs where there are existing “faults”.
I did a whole subchapter on fracking and earthquakes in The Arts of Truth. Arkansas and West Virginia were the poster children at that time (gosh a whole year ago). Some of you might enjoy the additional geology. Anthony is correct. With a couple of possible unproven exceptions, the idea that fracking can cause even minor earth quakes is nonsense on a par with Mann and Marcott.
– Shake, Rattle and Frack
– The Chicken Little Dance – a must-play at all wedding receptions, and staying with that theme:
– The Hockey Pockey (you put your dendro tree ring in, you put your dendro tree ring out… )
– Auditing the Detectives
– I Fought the Hypothesis
– Floating on the Dock of the Bay
– I Left My Heart in the Bore Hole
At one time (30 years ago) the 1275 and 1450 foot deep water wells for Richfield, MN were about the deepest (drilled) wells in the world.
If I read this right, I think a lot of the Bakken production is at >7000′ deep.
NOT a lot of communication between stratas that far apart!
Enjoy this reference. (Not like anyone is HIDING anything!)
http://wbpc.ca/+pub/document/archived-talks/2010/Bakken_Basics_-_Helms_and_Dokkens.pdf
I’ve got some more songs for Mr. Foster. I love the Beatles, so here we go:
* Mean Mr. McIntyre
* Baby I’m a Rich Man
* All You Need is a Hockey Stick
* Taxman
* Norwegian Wood (This Bird has Moved North Due to Global Warming)
* Sgt. Mann’s Lonely Blogs Echo Chamber
* Back in the U.S.S.R.
* While My Hockey Stick Gently Weeps
* You Should Give Me Your Money
* Magical Mystery Data
Here is a recent one-page summary of the Nov 2011 earthquakes near OKC – http://www.ogs.ou.edu/earthquakes/OGS_PragueStatement201303.pdf
The conclusion is that the swarm of quakes and the several larger ones were natural and not caused by fracking. The other paper reviewing the January 2011 swarm of quakes in the Garvin OK area was written by the same geologist – http://www.ogs.ou.edu/pubsscanned/openfile/OF1_2011.pdf .
In the conclusion, Holland noted that “The strong spatial and temporal correlations to the hydraulic-fracturing in Picket Unit B Well 4-‐18 certainly suggest that the earthquakes observed in the Eola Field could have possibly been triggered by this activity. Simply because the earthquakes fit a simple pore pressure diffusion model does not indicate that this is the physical process that caused these earthquakes. The number of historical earthquakes in the area and uncertainties in hypocenter locations make it impossible to determine with a high degree of certainty whether or not hydraulic-‐fracturing induced these earthquakes.”
He also noted that the quakes were reported by only one person in the area.
Here is the link to the Oklahoma Geological Survey – http://www.ogs.ou.edu/homepage.php. In the past, they have recorded far more earthquakes in OK than the US Geo Survey, so I tend to trust them more than the USGS.
How about this song for the whole bunch of “warmist” priests !!
Freddy Fender —– “Wasted Days and Wasted Nights”
Has anyone done an accounting of the costs (direct and indirect) that the whole CAGW fiasco has consumed?
The image the title elicits is disturbing…
Shouldn’t the last one be ‘Your Cheatin’ Chart‘?
I’m just sayin’.
As far as I know there’s never been an argument won by A.N.Y. warmist regarding fundamentals being misrepresented by a party, with another party checking up on their work, to observe that indeed, the work is that of a
Glib
Conning
Manipulator
Acting Grandiose
Creation of Victims
Peddling of Salvation
Expecting Praise for Being there to Do It.
Do what?
Doing what they do.
Being a TamiPoo
http://tinyurl.com/TamiPoo
Pathway says:
April 6, 2013 at 12:00 pm
“Injection of used fracing fluids into deep wells has cause lubrication of fault lines and induced minor tremors. This is documented in Denver in the 60′s at the Rocky Mountain Arsenal.”
This could become a wonderful urban myth. I am sure that this is not what you meant to say. You need to check with your mentors and understand what you are supposed to say. The key phrase is “lubrication of fault lines.” You have no imagination for geology.
John Parsons AKA atarsinc
Rud Istvan says:
April 6, 2013 at 3:09 pm
“… the idea that fracking can cause even minor earth quakes is nonsense on a par with Mann and Marcott.”
You need to look at “RockDoc’s” post above. Check his link. Do a little research.
The significance of fracking induced seismic activity needs more investigation. I personally doubt that it will turn out to be problematic. But, the quote above from you is factually false. Read Doc’s post. JP
There were a couple of these MSE’s (low intensity earthquakes) in DFW last year – remember, this is an urban area of several million people now. The newspaper report the next day after one of them said it all: “Earthquake recorded in Dallas; Several People reported feeling it.”
Svend Ferdinandsen says:
April 6, 2013 at 11:42 am
Actually, there is fracking in Iceland. Fracking of volcanically active areas to enhance geothermal production rates. The station down around Hengill volcano occasionally shows massive swarms snaking out from the area of the facility. They have even used experimental propping agents that chemically react with the hot rock to form granules that keep the cracks open.
I never hear anyone yammering about the dangers of doing this to a volcano that sits atop of a triple junction. (one of the most seismically active geologic features on earth)
The large swarm going on in the Tjörnes fracture zone is unrelated… but spooky.
I read this post by Anthony Watts and while I see yammering-on in a petty attack against Grant Foster re: the fracking issue, I’m thinking to myself Watt’s is really arguing against the USGS. Well, Foster has responded to this nonsense, here → http://tamino.wordpress.com/2013/04/06/who-you-gonna-believe/ … and someone got owned … and it isn’t Foster.
REPLY: Right, that’s why he ignored Bakken again and went to plan B doubling down on Oklahoma (or was it seismic hell in Nebraska?) – look a squirrel! The fact that I got into his head is amusing, but he didn’t explain why there’s no Earthquakes in North Dakota despite all the fracking going on. – Anthony
Tamino created The Perfect Spike. Linear up, linear down, no noise (error), consistent across all proxies in the world.
Anthony, Anthony: Fracking doesn’t cause earthquakes. Global warming causes earthquakes! Didn’t you know that?!
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/09/07/guardian-global-warming-to-trigger-earthquakes-tsunamis-avalanches-and-volcanic-eruptions/
http://tucsoncitizen.com/wryheat/2012/02/29/is-global-warming-causing-more-earthquakes/
REPLY: Right, that’s why he ignored Bakken again and went to plan B doubling down on Oklahoma (or was it seismic hell in Nebraska?) – look a squirrel! The fact that I got into his head is amusing, but he didn’t explain why there’s no Earthquakes in North Dakota despite all the fracking going on. – Anthony
=====================
You might consider the Bakken fracking is occurring in one of the most geologically stable regions of the USofA. The objective isn’t the petty getting “into his head”; it’s to make a point that’s worth a damn.
REPLY: I didn’t say getting into his head was important, only that it is amusing. I did update the post above – Anthony
[Reply: Fracking has been going on for more than fifty years, with no discernible effect on earthquake activity. If there was an effect, then by now there would be measurable evidence. But so far, there is none. — mod.]
“The Warming In Your Mind”
“Hypes In White Satin”
“You Lost that Warming Feeing”
Anthony I believe you played Tamino a little Nazareth Hair of the Dog
[snip – snark and taunts – mod]
AAPG Explorer Dec 2001: Colorado Quakes Cause Concern
This is a good summary of the Denver Arsenal #3 (1966-68), Rangely Oil Field controlled injection experiment, a salt water control operation in the Paradox Valley Delores River, and the most recent episode in the Raton Basin.
I think it is established that well injection CAN induce seismicity. To me, the common thread in the cases is the volume and rate of injected fluids. The Denver Rocky Mountain Arsenal #3 well took 180 million gallons in less than two years. The Raton case took about 110 million gallons in a shorter time. It is for this reason I think that high volume disposal wells used in fracking operations might be the cause of induced seismic activity. If so, the solution is to use more disposal wells over a greater area and/or recycle the fracking water.
See comments in More Fracking Nonsense About Earthquakes (WUWT Aug 10, 2012) for more references and discussion about Denver and Raton.
You know, these eco-cultists remind me of Yogi Berra (no offense Mr.Berra)
When you come to a fork in the road,take it.