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WUWT readers may recall that this blog and other popular skeptic blogs are in the running for the 2013 Bloggies in the Science category, as detailed here. Also, for the first time, the website “Skeptical Science” (operated by John Cook of Australia) was in the running, which is a measure of how much penetration they’ve made despite their very low traffic rankings.
I’ve been alerted to a hilarious change in the 2013 Bloggies contest status of SkS by a reader.
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Leo Hickman has a blog posting in the Guardian today about the ‘climate sceptics’ (whatever that is) ‘capturing’ the science and technology category. It reads like sour grapes.
There is this tidbit at the end of the article-
“Reflecting such concern, I have learned that Skeptical Science, who have never lobbied to be nominated and are the only non-climate sceptic blog on the Science shortlist, has now asked to be withdrawn from the shortlist due to its concerns about the legitimacy of the voting process.”
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LOL! Confirmed, see the center – “withdrawn by request” in this screencap today:
I suppose Mr. Cook also doesn’t support the democratic election process, where candidates put up signs, billboards, make radio and TV news appearances, make speeches, run newspaper and magazine advertisements, etc. all in the “vote for me” effort. It works for our USA political system, it works similarly in Australia, where Mr. Cook lives.
How odd that Mr. Cook thinks there’s a legitimacy issue here, when it simply models the Democratic political system of voting. The way the Bloggies system is setup, there’s one vote per email, and the user has to be real and answer the email for the vote to be legitimately recorded. Here are the rules:
- Any pages with dated entries that existed at some point during the year 2012 are eligible.
- Only one nomination ballot and one finalist ballot may be submitted per person.
- E-mail addresses are required to vote. You must use your own address and confirm the verification e-mail.
- If you verify a second ballot, your first one will be replaced.
- In the nomination phase:
- URLs are required.
- Your ballot must contain at least three unique nominees.
- Weblogs may be nominated for multiple categories.
- Nominees must suit the category they are placed in.
- Weblogs may win a category over multiple years a maximum of three times.
Source: http://2013.bloggi.es/#rules
If Mr. Cook can point out anywhere WUWT or any of the other contestants have violated the rules, now is the time to do so.
The Bloggies has over a decade of experience in dealing with vote stuffing, and they have a good system to prevent it. Even the bots Mr. Cook has designed (that make fake comments in response to other commenters) would likely not be able to make a dent in vote totals, Apparently, even the American Geophysical Union thinks Cooks’s bots making fake comments are an OK thing.
Climate-change deniers have nowhere to hide thanks to an ingenious piece of software that detects inaccurate statements on global warming that appear on the internet and delivers an automated response on Twitter citing peer- reviewed scientific evidence.
The so-called „Twitter-bot‟ is the brainchild of Australian webmaster John Cook and software developer Nigel Leck, and is part of an armoury of tools Cook has developed to rebut common myths and inaccuracies about climate change.
Source: AGU: http://blogs.agu.org/wildwildscience/2011/09/08/john-cook-at-skeptical-science-wins-eureka-prize/
Hickman in his article points out that
The system prevents scripts and voting multiple times. The e-mail verification is the first step, and any ballots that look like they might have been automated or collaborated are flagged for me to review manually. Most climate sceptic blog fans do follow the rules.
The Bloggies proprietor, Nikolai Nolan said in the Hickman interview:
I’m considering various resolutions. But it seems that science blogs would rather complain about the results than try to submit nominations themselves, so I’m not very motivated. No point in eliminating sceptic blogs from the category when there’s not much down the list to replace it with. I also need to keep in mind that fixing the Best Science or Technology category might cause climate sceptic blogs to migrate to another category.
Or, maybe, Mr. Cook thinks there is a conspiracy to win. After all, he and his psych sidekick Dr. Stephan Levandowsky are big on conspiracy theory studies as a tool to smear skeptics, quite certain that climate skeptics are mentally aberrant, even though they never gave the readers of this blog a chance to vote in their horridly self serving and skewed survey. Given that, I think a case could easily be made for psychological projection in Cook’s thinking. That flawed sampling of actual skeptic websites could be why Lewandowsky’s paper was recently pulled from publication by the scientific journal.
But I think that Mr. Cook realized that given his low numbers compared to WUWT and the other highly trafficked blogs, he just didn’t have a fighting chance, much like some candidates in a political election just don’t get penetration with the electorate. So, instead, he did the one thing he could do; he took his ball and went home, while complaining about “legitimacy” of the process without even trying himself.
I think his intent was to poison the results with his claims of “legitimacy”, even though it is just like any political election, and like any political election, there are checks in place to prevent vote stuffing. I predict that whoever wins the category, Cook and Lewandowsy will try to turn the award into some sort of political tool under the guise of science, just as they did with their bizarre “Moon Landing” paper that sampled Climate alarmist blogs, but not climate skeptic blogs, and the most visible skeptic blog, WUWT, was purposely excluded, because, in my opinion, they didn’t want that large sample, as it wouldn’t have given them answer they wanted.
But, this behavior is pretty much par for the course given the juvenile antics we’ve seen from the cartoonist turned conspiracy theory publisher and the whole crew at SkS, who have some pretty disturbing things to say.
Here is Glenn Tamblyn (Skeptical Science author/moderator) secretly conversing with his SkS pals on their off limits forum (which either got hacked or was left open by their own incompetence) and saying “we need a conspiracy to save humanity”. The Viet Cong comparison is a nice touch too. There’s talk of convening a “war council” too.
And this isn’t about science or personal careers and reputations any more. This is a fight for survival. Our civilisations survival. .. We need our own anonymous (or not so anonymous) donors, our own think tanks…. Our Monckton’s … Our assassins.
Anyone got Bill Gates’ private number, Warren Buffett, Richard Branson? Our ‘side’ has got to get professional, ASAP. We don’t need to blog. We need to network. Every single blog, organisation, movement is like a platoon in an army. ..This has a lot of similarities to the Vietnam War….And the skeptics are the Viet Cong… Not fighting like ‘Gentlemen’ at all. And the mainstream guys like Gleick don’t know how to deal with this. Queensberry Rules rather than biting and gouging.
..So, either Mother Nature deigns to give the world a terrifying wake up call. Or people like us have to build the greatest guerilla force in human history. Now. Because time is up…Someone needs to convene a council of war of the major environmental movements, blogs, institutes etc. In a smoke filled room (OK, an incense filled room) we need a conspiracy to save humanity.
[As quoted by Geoff Chambers in this Bishop Hill thread. http://www.bishop-hill.net/blog/2012/3/26/opengate-josh-158.html?currentPage=2#comments ]
Yes, I think we are dealing with Psychological projection on the part of Mr. Cook and SkS here, either that, or pure tribalism, where Mr. Cook couldn’t even stand to be in the same contest with climate skeptics.

Anthony Scalzi says:
March 1, 2013 at 8:16 pm
“…The only way that Skeptical Science could win the Best Science Blog award would be if all the other sceptic blogs were removed from contention after having won lifetime achievement awards for winning three times…”
Maybe that’s their intent – have their “followers” shift their votes to WUWT, giving Anthony his third win (and removing him from future contention).
Then they think they can run the field for a few years.
Actually, the rules DO stink.
The best is the best, not the best of those who weren’t best for three years.
The three year rule should be abolished.
And Patrick enjoy Australia. A pom I once worked with assured me that it is the best place in the world.
..So, either Mother Nature deigns to give the world a terrifying wake up call. Or people like us have to build the greatest guerilla force in human history. Now. Because time is up…Someone needs to convene a council of war of the major environmental movements, blogs, institutes etc. In a smoke filled room (OK, an incense filled room) we need a conspiracy to save humanity.
Or instead, we could just let the scientific process work. But admittedly that does lack the drama of a bat-sh_t crazy Alarmist comparing this to Vietnam.
TRM March 1 2013 at 7.32 pm
TRM says’ and the skeptics are the Viet Cong The Alarmists are aware that the Viet Cong won aren’t they?’
Actually the leadership of the Viet Cong were shot when the North took over.I am not sure that the Alarmist’s are all that aware.It however does not auger well for them if they blindly follow.
Tram says…Thanks Tram ‘Up the Aussies, Oi Oi Oi.’
Just because Professor Flannery is misguided about climate does not make him an incompetent.He may well be a good and dedicated evolutionary biologist.
Australia has a far more effective climate skeptic population than Europe or the USA, judging by the way the political debate has sharply turned.It was Professor Plimer’s book that I waded through that opened my eyes to the Paleoclimate,the probability that the climate was undergoing warming, as was that of all the planets,and that CO2 measurement , temperature measurement and predictive models must be continually looked at for bias.
This book is full of annoying errors of editing which would be apparent to anyone.
Despite this when I read the scientific rebuttal given by a leading Australian academic, it mainly pointed to the editing mistakes,not the substance of debate.
At this point I realized that there was no proper debate in Australia and the ‘debate’ was ideological.
The debate has been focused in the media and won by talkback radio, where the ruling coalition
of ALP Green refuses to appear.
This has been apparent where commuters stuck in long lines of traffic listen to Monkton, Plimer and others explain the science and politics on radio.
Australia has been a refreshing place to be a part of.
I do not want in any way to burden you all with our almost eight month election campaign.
Everyone is just waiting to vote out this dysfunctional government.People have stopped talking about politics in private conversation, its got so bad.
This is the same Mr. Cook ‘that had no issues with ‘gaming ‘ Amazon book reviews and changing others peoples word to make them fit his view on SS. So he has zero right to any moral high ground .
The good news is while AGW proponents are wasting all their time and effort looking for ‘conspiracy’ they are failing to notice way it is ‘the cause ‘ is turning the public off , so are unlikely to do anything about it .
My observation of people;
– Liars think most people lie
– Honest people think most people are honest
– Thieves think most people steal
– Trusting people think most people trustworthy
– etc
Think about what you say and do, and don’t be surprised that Cook thinks what he thinks
Cook’s losing it in more ways than one and it sounds like he is fit to be tied. These types are unhinged and easily trounced in discussions since their premise for most of their jive is based on alarmist, fantasized pseudo-science and psychobabble. A local city paper used to have many articles about global warming and green fanasty-based new world Utopian drivel. Over the last few years many commenters at the city paper’s online forums have soundly countered the global warming lies and eco-lies with facts and reasoned arguments and cited peer-reviewed research.
People like Cook have no reasoned or rational arguments [bots or no bots] and fall on their faces when confronted. They become irrational, attack skeptical commenters and fall apart. The city paper has gone from constant global warming, eco-end of world alarmism to almost no articles anymore. The few that have appeared recently have actually begun to have some merit and balance. Surprise, surprise! Alarmists acting like spoiled, petulant children just don’t stand a chance when their balloons are popped just as fast as they’re raised and others grow weary of the hype and game. I’ve been accused of being a [bot] at that site once or twice and regard that as a sign of their desperation.
Eliza said: “In fact Australian Higher Education is very poor with very few of their Universities now having any decent rankings. ”
In fact with a population of about 20 million, Australia in 2012 has 7 positions in the world wide top 100 university ranking : ( http://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings ), representing almost all of the major universities likely to be offering sufficiently wide a range of courses at both the teaching and research levels to even have a chance at ranking. With one third of one percent of the world’s population Australia represents 7% of the 100 best universities, starting at number 24.
Look in a wide range of fields and you will find Australian scientists contributing the fundamental research on which entire disciplines are later built – wi-fi, penicilin, smart plastics, gene-shears, silex, X-ray crystallography; to name just a few. Australia is notoriously poor at translating its pure research into applied products, tending instead to sell it or give it away to the US or UK where they later pretend to have invented it. There are, however, many items on which many depend that are completely Australian inventoions : bionic-ear, combine-havester, electronic pacemaker, black-box flight recorder, self-constructing tower crane, etc. – oh, and google maps.
I could go on but I think you get the drift. While there are some ratbags in Australian Academia, by far the majority of scientitists and engineers, at least, are of an outstanding standard, and the country’s universities punch considerably above their weight.
I think your comment is not supported by the facts.
Regards
Darkstone
I’m not sure if Cook and his stable of creative writers were on the scene three years ago – but, if they were, they certainly didn’t register on the Webbie monitor.
There was a (big fail of)
campaigndiscussion via Facebook to get both WUWT and CA disqualified from the categories in which they’d been nominated.I’d like to provide a source for the above “discussion”. Well, actually, I can: http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=185779101778&topic=11095 But, unfortunately what worked then does not work now on FB. However, the remnants that I happened to capture at the time can be found at:
AGW alarmists: slow learners damning selves with own words
As an aside, when I had posted on this year’s skeptic sweep at Bishop Hill, one commenter had wryly noted:
But in light of deep-green-heart-on-sleeve Hickman’s considerably less than stellar record of objectivity and/or investigative skills (viz his “reporting” on Gleickgate, and his involvement/reporting in l’affaire Tallbloke), I’d much prefer to hear directly from Bloggies proprietor, Nikolai Nolan than trust anything purportedly contained in a Hickman “interview”.
Any Journo’s out there willing to find out how Cook , “Earns his daily bread?”
beesaman says:
March 1, 2013 at 1:03 pm
Obviously Cook can not cope with reality unless it’s made up by someone like Levandowsky!
Thanks beesaman, the shortest and most concise explanation.
mojo says:
March 1, 2013 at 1:35 pm
“We had to destroy the award in order to save it.”
exactly
Patrick says:
March 1, 2013 at 9:10 pm
I got ridiculed at Sks for posting the comment that interglacial periods were warmer than glacial periods and the evidence suggests the current interglacial is the coldest of the last 4 or 5. I got banned and I’ve never been back to that, comic (IMHO), site.
Guys, I like your comments. So much better to read human comments! Reading about the bots, maybe this is why arguing with an alarmist brings such illogical answers. Either they are bots or think like bots. They go round in circles.
Why they retired? They know they cannot win. Who would ever endorse that blog after having made the experience Patrick here describes?
Keeping an alarmist face without heavily moderating the blog does not seem to work.
They’ve painted themselves in the corner:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/09/25/a-modest-proposal-to-skeptical-science/
they do not realise the signs of time:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/07/13/friday-funny-bonus-the-company-you-keep/
they support a special kind of climate-olympics:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/08/10/friday-funny-climate-olympics/
they prefer to close the eyes to reality, even if we would like to help:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/09/20/not-quite-friday-funny/
they also know the state of alarm:
http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2013/2/17/curtain-call-josh-204.html
we heard confessions:
http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2013/2/3/zickfeld-folly-josh-199.html
green fizzics do not help, real physics do:
http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2012/7/6/green-fizzics-josh-174.html
we know the evidence:
http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2012/5/2/cartoon-the-cartoon-josh-164.html
we can connect the dots:
http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2012/4/20/connect-the-dots-josh-163.html
fantasies are brought back to earth:
http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2012/4/11/medallion-man-josh-161.html
there are good reasons to be cheerful:
http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2012/4/2/optimistography-josh-159.html
so come down from your high perch:
http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2012/3/26/opengate-josh-158.html
Hey it was fun to collect all these 😀 enjoy!
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With the sceptic vote already so divide, between four excellent candidates mr Cooke must have felt that winning as the only pro CAGW nominee would be an unworthy win. Or was he just scared he couldn’t beat an already 4 way divided vote ?
Cook’s Blog is a minor part of a broad ideological movement***. His blog is, however, a simple condensed example of the movement’s failed strategies.
Cook’s blog does not allow open dialog on the fundamentally flawed IPCC assessments. That is a losing strategy. It makes them look like a scientifically isolated / closed cult.
Cook’s blog is willingly endorsing the Mann maneuver. The Mann maneuver is to consider critics of alarming AGW by CO2 as enemies of science and bad people. Mann has imagined there is a plot against him as a supporter of alarming AGW by CO2. {his book is proof of him thinking that, read it} The Mann Maneuver is perceived by a neutral observer as paranoia. Bad strategy of Cook to endorse the Mann maneuver, its kooky.
Cook’s blog thinks the most essential scientific dialog on climate science is taking place in government institutions, scientific associations and academia. It is using those as authority in support of a conclusion of alarming AGW by CO2. That strategy is not based on what science has as its primary root; science evolves from original thought by an individual. It cannot be controlled by government, scientific associations and academia; therefore they lack the ability to keep control of their message of alarming AGW by CO2; individuals thwart them consistently. Individual based scientific resistance to ‘authoritative’ views of science is not futile! ¡Viva!
Cook’s blog, finally, lacks a benevolent sense of human nature. His blog comes across as malevolent. I think they subconsciously choose that as a strategic means to scare people into action. That restricts the blog to viewers out of touch with both the wonders of the novel developing scientific possibilities and the joys of human nature. Cook’s blog is now viewed as a bunch of reactionaries defending doom.
*** the broad ideological movement is a modern variant of the result of Platonic/Kantian elements of dual reality and dual epistemology. : ) discuss that at another time.
John
Last year SKS insiders forum talked about this too. They hoped to make it to the final 5. They also thought that “with so many d***** blogs on that list, they would split the d******* vote. And that would be an advantage to SKS.
They also discussed a boycott and asking the competition to rename it to “most popular” instead of “best”: “If we do make the list, perhaps we could ask them to rename the award accordingly, or that our name be withdrawn from consideration. It’s not much skin off our back because WUWT has so many readers, it’s probably going to win again anyway, as sickening as that is.”
Vote for WUWT… vote often!!! Oh, wait…
Whenever Glenn Beck releases a new book, it rockets to #1. So often so, that the NY Times bloggers pushed to put him and other popular conservative writers in a category all their own, and to remove them from the overall #1 listings. It was embarrassing to their progressive friends.
I have so far made three atttempts to vote but have yet to receive a confirmation email.
Read all about Mr Cook and the glorious Amazon reviews for Michael Mann,
http://www.bishop-hill.net/blog/2012/9/7/michael-mann-and-skepticalscience-well-orchestrated.html
it now sounds as if Amazon.com could go live w/ kindle version as soon as Jan 31st, so Amazon reviewers should be lined up and ready to go then if at all possible. WIll provide any further updates when I have more info. My publisher is urging reviewer-writers not to write blog reviews then (they have a later rollout schedule in mind for blog reviews), but it is ok to submit Amazon reviews then—and as we know, it will be important to do this quickly once Amazon opens their reviews to offset efforts of deniers. Again, its (sic) looking like this will be *Jan 31st* and we should operate under that assumption!
I have not received the email, and the first three captchas were unreadable. I give up.
[Reply: Never give up! ~ mod.]
Recently while not feeling well and waiting to go into hospital I strayed on to http://climatecrocks.com/. Well they keep sending me emails promoting their latet posting and I did have nothing better to do and the site was not what you would call intellectually challenging. After you read your way through yet another posting predicting the end of the world by Tursday week it was obvious what their consensus view was, if we can’t persuade people we are always right we will force them by any means to tow the line, i.e. extreme eco-fascist. They love SkS, wikipedia and even Al Gore (see the latest post, well actually don’t it’s too silly). So not are these guys dangerously dillusional, but just plain dangerous. I have a vision of them siting around a windmill somewhere in oregon, cleaning their assult weapons and planning to make Al Gore the king of the universe. Fortunately they are just a few, their site has little traffic and from now on even less as I will not be going there.
Anthony doesn’t need bots to vote. Or even individuals to vote more than once. The readership of WUWT is, IIRC, orders of magnitude larger than that of SkS.
Here’s an interesting coincidence.
Up until just a day or so ago the Internet Archive Wayback Machine
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.skepticalscience.com/
had links to Skeptical Science for February 2013. Now they are gone.
SkS suffers so badly from a syndrome named for them.
Skeptical Science Syndrome. The syndrome results in ignoring empirical data in favor of modeled data.
Climate models, in a scientific venue, are used to tease out potential variations IF CO2 changes. The parameters are static in those models.
When a normal Chaotic event happens, the models have no way of dealing with such.
Mr. Cooks site is a political site. It is most definitely NOT a science site. One could go there for a daily does of politics if one was inclined. However, one would never go there for scientific information.
I am sure Mr. Cook asked his site to be taken out of the running was because it was put in the wrong category. He knows that it is a political site, and by having it removed is only being honest about it.
These catastrophists are a very weird bunch.
On reading the Guardian article, did Cook ask to go or did the Bloggies ask them to shove off?
The money quote was ,”this year one of them used a bunch of disposable email addresses to nominate themselves” most sites have played by the rules,one did not.
Possible that this fits the MO of the fake sceptics at SS?
I refuse to use SkS,for these people, that defiles a perfectly useful tool.