Andrew Bolt at the Herald Sun tips me to this story in the Australian which makes me wonder why we never hear about posh expensive dinners for the all those #big oil funded skeptics. /sarc – Anthony
A DOZEN Climate Change authority executives dining out at a posh Italian restaurant to get to know each other better left tax-payers with an almost $2000 bill.
The dinner was held so the executives of the outfit created in July to review and make recommendations about the carbon tax and other federal government green schemes could meet in “an informal setting” to better their “collective decision making” capacity.
Executives dined at swish Melbourne eatery The Italian Restaurant and Bar on a $135-a-head menu of New Zealand king salmon, calamari, caprese salad, southern supreme beef, gnocchi with oyster mushroom and vanilla panna cotta with dark chocolate.
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Authority members at the dinner included Bernie Fraser, Lynne Williams, John Marlay, Professor David Karoly, Heather Ridout, Elana Rubin, Professor John Quiggan and CEO Anthea Harris, the spokeswoman said.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/climate-boffins-dine-out-on-1740-taxpayer-dollars/story-e6frg6n6-1226574910208
Bolt writes:
I’d have thought Karoly should go without dinner until he publicly apologises for the errors in his last alarmist paper – since withdrawn- about “unusual” warming in Australia.
Moreover, should Quiggin still be on the authority after vastly exaggerating the estimated effect of the government’s global warming policies on the temperature?
And one last question: if there was no global warming scare, would such people get the government money allowing such fine dining?
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“….could meet in “an informal setting” to better their “collective decision making” capacity.
Executives dined at swish Melbourne eatery The Italian Restaurant and Bar on a $135-a-head menu of New Zealand king salmon, calamari, caprese salad, southern supreme beef, gnocchi with oyster mushroom and vanilla panna cotta with dark chocolate.”
Sounds formal to me, but I’m a poor country boy.
😉
The current Green Labor Government in Australia has just allocated an extra $10 million to the state owned ABC to improve its news service. Now the ABC is full of rampant Warmists and Greenists…and that there will be an election in September, do you think there might be some connection between these two things?
$135 per head – sounds like this was an important formal meeting – where is the transcript?
I would turn Andrew Bolt’s last question around: If there was no government money, would there be a global warming scare?
/snark
kakatoa:-
Now that this esteemed group of individuals have been called on the carpet, they have to opportunity to follow Vice President Gore’s approach to his rather large carbon footprint- carbon offsets. Carbon offsets sound a bit like how the aristocracy used to take a pass on going to war, as it’s a messy business, by buying their way out of it.
I’m sure they would be happy to spend our money buying carbon offsets against their lavish indulgences at our expense.
Poker guy, reset your PC system clock and have it update from the net. G ot that a couple of days ago from a friend. Apparently a difference can trigger suspicious site warnings.
We can be joke about these things but fair dinkum the money peed up the wall during global warming alarmist extravagant lunches and dinners is literally a drop in the oceans of waste in the most futile pursuit of mankind next to war.
* One gourmet Italian dinner
Or
50 families saved from poverty in Mozambique?
https://www.oxfamunwrapped.com.au/gift/94/goat
* One hundred delegates on a jaunt to Copenhagen
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/australia-flies-almost-100-delegates-to-copenhagen-20091211-kmon.html
OR
One thousand water projects for Water Charity?
http://watercharity.org/
* The amount world wide wasted on global warming alarmism
OR
The number of children in poverty given a better life for $2 a day?
http://trans.worldvision.com.au/childsponsorship/childsearch.aspx?lpos=CSPON_SponsorToday
Surely it is not a question of which or whether, it is a question of when?
Well, I’ve pointed this out before…instead of the anthropocene epoch that some intellectuals are espousing, I think we ought to call it the anthroporcine epoch.
And dammit, I’m going to keep calling it that to claim my Google priority. 🙂
Charles Gerard Nelson says: February 11, 2013 at 12:32 pm The current Green Labor Government in Australia has just allocated an extra $10 million to the state owned ABC to improve its news service. To which I would retort that the ABC no longer knows the difference between news and fairy stories.
Most Australian Universities have clubbed with the CSIRO to form a blog named “The Conversation”. http://us.yhs4.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=A0oGdOawwxlR0AIA5qml87UF?p=Australia%20blog%20%22The%20Conversation%22&fr=altavista&fr2=sfp At the bottom right of its home page we see the Charter.
We will:
•Give experts a greater voice in shaping scientific, cultural and intellectual agendas by providing a trusted platform that values and promotes new thinking and evidence-based research.
•Unlock the knowledge and expertise of researchers and academics to provide the public with clarity and insight into society’s biggest problems.
•Create an open site for people around the world to share best practices and collaborate on developing smart, sustainable solutions.
•Provide a fact-based and editorially-independent forum, free of commercial or political bias.
•Ensure the site’s integrity by only obtaining non-partisan sponsorship from education, government and private partners. Any advertising will be relevant and non-obtrusive.
•Ensure quality, diverse and intelligible content reaches the widest possible audience by employing experienced editors to curate the site.
•Support and foster academic freedom to conduct research, teach, write and publish.
•Work with our academic, business and government partners and our advisory board to ensure we are operating for the public good.
The catch is that one has to be associated with a University before being allowed to write lead articles. This seems to be a specific move to exclude skeptics from the headers. It’s contradictory. The Charter says “free of commercial or political bias” and then gives an article to Ross Garnaut, bless his pure and neutral soul, free of commercial and political bias.
Given that the funds come from the public, would you say that this blog is an unfair use of public funds? How does it happen that some university guys are allowed to decide which way the cake can be cut?
Strangely, one of the listed contributors, among the myriads of academics, is – wait for it –
Foundation for rabbit free Australia.
I see this was published in The Australian. Most readers of The Australian will be scratching their heads wondering what the fuss is about.
$135/head for a full meal with trimmings is chicken feed by the standards of the business world. Not exactly the most expensive place in Melbourne.
Now if the article had been published in the Herald Sun or New Idea, it might have got a few raised eyebrows from people who regard fish and chips at the corner shop as an evening out. $2000 cost for a seminar session is doing it on the cheap compared to if they had the meeting arranged such as venue hire, air fares, sitting fees, food and accommodation.
Still, I guess any opportunity to try to topple tall poppies, which is a favourite pastime of many down under.
Martin, it’s not the amount (although your average working stiff would only drop that much on a meal for a birthday or other special event) – it’s the fact that it’s taxpayer money.
If they needed a getting-to-know each other session, what’s wrong with a few drinks and packets of chips in the bar? They get paid travel and meal allowances, as you point out, so they wouldn’t be personally out of pocket.
It’s the sheer arrogance and disregard for the efforts of people who work in boring or dirty jobs and whose taxes fund these knees-ups that is so galling. They are special snowflakes who can’t get to know each other in the way that ordinary people do – they need a fully funded meal in an up-market restaurant to facilitate even basic social interaction.
Each time I have heard Karoly talk on TV, he has unashamedly blamed weather events (e.g. the Quuensland floods; Australian heat wave; etc) on man-made global warming, and emphasised the urgency to reduce carbon dioxide emissions.
Don’t these guys, including Karoly, ever look at the real world observational data on climate?
Aren’t they embarrassed by the failure of the climate models to get any ominous scenarios/predictions right?
Aren’t they ashamed of all the adverse revelations about the IPCC and its reports by people like Donna LaFramboise?
How does Karoly sleep at night knowing that despite rising CO2 emissions over the last two decades, temperatures have followed a flat trend over the last 15 years?
Can someone get Karoly to cite just one peer reviewed study that confirms human induced CO2 – actually lets include all human and natural CO2 entering the atmosphere each year – drives temperature and is causing catastrophic warming?
Karoly is one man that can never fool me. Tim Flannery is another. As for Ross Garnaut… well he is the man behind Australia’s ‘carbon tax’ and who claimed he’d checked out the climate science and it was fine. Don’t these guys make you laugh?
The sad thing is, these guys all have letters after their names… but in reality, they really have no credibility! They’re all riding shot-gun on the global warming gravy-train!