NYT pushes crazy claims about "extreme weather" but public interest wanes

climate ace here is the ABC propaganda web site how we put up with these clowns is crazey http://www.abc.net.au/news/specials/climate-change/

Climate Ace says:
January 11, 2013 at 5:29 pm
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ABC NEWS US….. I should have been more specific. It was on Good Morning America.
Thanks Tango..

Instead of Climate Change or Extreme Weather, how about using the phrase “Bad Stuff.” As in “unless I get more funding and control over all of your lives a lot of bad stuff will happen to you.” It’s frightening and vague AND it can’t be disproved. What could be better?

I think all those promoting the new meme of extreme weather be labelled extremists!

Gerard
Another extremist David Karoly reported in todays news ‘In a report called Off the charts: Extreme Australian summer heat, one of the authors, David Karoly, says the heatwave has affected over 70 per cent of Australia and longstanding temperature records have been broken.’
I saw the interview as well, if it was the same one. My understanding is that both of Karoly’s statements are factually correct. Why reporting the factual truth about our current hideous weather makes him an ‘extremist’ is a bit of a puzzle. If I needed an adjective, for Karoly’s statements today, I would have popped in the word ‘realist’.

EMSmith
We live in momentous times. Newspapers are dead or dying. It is a mass extinction event unrivalled in the history of human communications. IMHO, it is fitting that public organs which have contributed so much to AGW in so many different ways are amongst the first casualties.

EMSmith
Do tell, just WHEN was there not bushfire in Australia?
I remember a stunning movie about it. From about 1960?
The archaeological evidence shows it of near geologic standing.
Who said there was a period when bushfires (in the sense of fires lit by natural causes) have never occurred in Australia? Not me. Stop pretending that I did.
So, I presume you intend to convert Australia to be, what, Poland? England?
Who said I intend to convert Australia to Poland or England? Stop pretending that I do.
(FWIW we have the same problem in California, and the same climate (Kopen, not the 30 year average of weather that some fools think is ‘climate’ when it’s only 1/2 a PDO weather cycle). The Redwood Trees of California have evolved a special bark that mostly protects them from the common, and periodic, forest fires.
You do indeed have some of the same problems in California that we have with bushfires. In particular there are areas of Australian eucalyptus trees there. Not a good idea, allowing feral eucalypts loose on fire-prone areas. I suggest you guys treat them as environmental weeds and get rid of them.
Eucalyptus – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Having studied Australian fire history and fire ecology at university I am fortunate not to need Wikipedia for some understanding of the dynamics. I am particularly aware of the fire adaptations of many species of eucalypts.
Well, that it then. You’ll be all for cutting the Eucalypts to extinction to save Australia from the fires then. Can’t have those pyromanic trees running around the place promoting fires and letting all that CO2 back into the air…
Not really. The timber industry wouldn’t like it all. For example, veneer quality old growth Mountain Ash is worth literally hundreds of thousands of dollars a hectare. The farmers who get high quality irrigation water from timbered catchments wouldn’t like it at all either. The tourism industry couldn’t do much with a landscape of stumps either. Etc, etc, etc.
(You do realize just how daft your comments make you look do you not? Either hyper political driven to push empty propaganda, or hopelessly ignorant of the ethnobotany and evolutionary history of Australia… I.e, a fool or an idiot. That is ‘inc-or’ BTW for the computer types…)
OK, so you have read Wikipedia, you are an instant expert on the extremely complex topic of Australian forest fire ecology and on that basis you make one of the dopiest judgements I have seen in WUWT. There should be an award for it.
BTW, even if you were an insane economic vandal and insisted on chopping down the small remainder of Australia’s forests you would not stop wildfires.
Many of the recent (and indeed current) fires were/are in pastoral and agricultural farmlands. When the temps are in the low to high forties, when it hasn’t rained much for months, when the humidity is extremely low, and when hot northerly winds are gusting at above fifty kph, nothing much stops fires in Australia. Not even the wisdom of Wikipedia or the foolishness of instant experts.

‘Climate Ace’ 5 million hectares of Victoria burned on Black Thursday 6th Feb 1851. The description does not sound much different to now the link at the bottom gives much useful information. Karoly is not just an extremist he is worse he is an opportunist!
THE WEATHER. ( from the Melbourne “Argus” Newspaper Feb. 8.1851 )
” Thursday was one of the most oppressive hot-days we have experienced for some years.
In the early morning the atmosphere was perfectly scorching, and at eleven o’clock the thermometer stood as high as 117 degrees ( 47.2 Celsius ) in the shade; at one o’clock it had fallen to 109 degrees and at four in the afternoon was up to 113 degrees.( 45 Celsius )
http://home.iprimus.com.au/foo7/fire1851.html

Checking the Google trend link supplied and typing in “environment” and “sustainability” in addition to those given, it looks like interest has been steadily abating since 2004 (thats as far back as it goes). Since the actual number of searches made on Google must be much higher for 2012 than for 2004, and these trends depicted seem to show total searches rather than a proportion of all searches, then this shows a strong falling away of interest.

The reason I present my climate and weather pages in both English and Spanish is to try to compensate for the Spanish-language press and TV feeding exclusively from the “main stream” media in the USA. In Latin America and Spain there is little opinion against CAGW, I think the situation is better in Chile.

We have a new commenter “Climate Ace”. Full of comment but no substance and I expect no sense of the past. Well Mr Ace when I was in my late teens I worked as a stocky on out-back stations up near Cloncurry and have fought many pre-wet season grass and bush fires started by electrical storms mauraudering across the tinder dry black and red soil country. Some of these annual fires had + 200 mile plus fronts and in order to save our livestock and fences from burning we vainly fought them day after day. I was told at that time by locals that the fires had been an annual thing since ancient times and were good for grass regrowth and reduced the litter buildup under the gum trees. And that Mans recent attempts to tame the land to their will was causing the problems.
The locals also told me of dreadful earlier drought years where station owners slaughtered 100s thousands of their cattle rather than let them starve to death.
Some years later I lived in NSW (late 70s) and experienced the annual raging fires that tore through semi residential areas of native bush surrounding the cities and burnt down houses and claimed lives. I was told then that if people were silly enough to (be allowed to) live in houses built in fire prone bush and without sufficient firebreaks then they deserved to have their houses burnt down.
What we are hearing and reading now are emerging new age Eco Activitists telling us that somehow it’s all our fault that these bush fires are claiming lives and livestock. Whereas the reality is that its Man who is attempting to bend the will of nature to suit their economic and lifestyle purpose, meanwhile Mother Gaia simply carries on doing her own thing.