Haigh Anxiety: a psycho-comedy of errors

Guest post by Alec Rawls

In an interview with NewScientist magazine, Imperial College professor of atmospheric physics Joanna Haigh scoffs at the idea that late 20th century warming could have been caused by the sun:

Haigh points out that the sun actually began dimming slightly in the mid-1980s, if we take an average over its 11-year cycle, so fewer GCRs should have been deflected from Earth and more Earth-cooling clouds should have formed. “If there were some way cosmic rays could be causing global climate change, it should have started getting colder after 1985.”

What she means is that the 20th century’s persistent high level of solar activity peaked in 1985. That is the estimate developed by Mike Lockwood and Claus Fröhlich. The actual peak was later (solar cycle 22, which ended in 1996, was stronger than cycle 21 by almost every measure) but set that aside. Who could possibly think that cooling should commence when forcings are at their peak, just because the very highest peak has been passed?

Haigh’s argument against solar warming was in response to my suggestion that one new sentence in the leaked Second Order Draft of AR5 is a “game changer.” That is the sentence where the authors admit strong evidence that some substantial mechanism of solar amplification must be at work. The only solar forcing in the IPCC’s computer models is Total Solar Irradiance so if some solar forcing beyond TSI is also at work then all their model results are wrong.

No, no, no, Haigh told the NewScientist, it is “the bloggers” who have it all wrong:

They’re misunderstanding, either deliberately or otherwise, what that sentence is meant to say.

Look whose accusing people of misunderstanding. This woman thinks that warming is driven, not by the level of the temperature forcing, but by the rate of change in the level of the forcing. When a forcing goes barely past its peak (solar cycle 22 nearly identical in magnitude to cycle 21), does that really create cooling? Haigh should try it at home: put a pot of water on a full burner for a minute then turn the burner down to medium high. Does she really think the pot will stop warming, or that it will actually start to cool?

“Deliberately or otherwise,” this is an astounding misunderstanding of the very most basic physics, and Haigh is not the only consensus scientist who is making this particular “mistake.” Hers is the stock answer that pretty much every “consensus” scientists gives when asked about the solar-warming hypothesis. I have collected examples from a dozen highly regarded scientists: Lockwood, Solanki, Forster, Muscheler, Benestad, and more. Not surprisingly, it turns out that they are all making some crucial unstated assumptions.

Solar warming and ocean equilibrium

To claim that the 20th century’s high level of solar forcing would only cause warming until some particular date such as 1970, or 1980, or 1987, one must be assuming that the oceans had equilibrated by that date to the ongoing high level of forcing. That’s just the definition of equilibrium. After a step up in forcing the system will continue to warm until equilibrium is reached.

When I asked these scientists if they were making an unstated assumption that the oceans must have equilibrated by 1980 say to whatever forcing effect high 20th century solar activity was having, almost all of them answered yes, each giving their own off-the-cuff rationale for this assumption, none of which stand up to the least bit of scrutiny. Isaac Held’s two-box model of ocean equilibration is better than Mike Lockwood’s one-box model, but just move to the next simplest model, a three-box model of ocean equilibration, and any idea that longer term forcing won’t cause longer term warming collapses.

The well mixed upper ocean layer (the top 100-200 meters) does equilibrate rapidly to a change in forcing, showing a response time of less than ten years, but that isn’t the end of the story. As the top layer warms up it transfers heat to the next deeper ocean layers. If the elevated forcing persists then these next deeper layers will continue to warm on the time scale of multiple decades to multiple centuries. This warming will reduce the temperature differential between the upper and deeper layers, causing there to be less and less heat loss over time from the upper to the deeper layers, causing the upper layer to continue to warm on the time scale of multiple decades to multiple centuries.

This accords with what we actually see. Since the 50 year absence of sunspots that coincided with the bottom of the Little Ice Age, 300 years of uneven warming have  coincided with an uneven rise in solar activity. Any claim that these three centuries of natural warming had to have ended by a particular 20th century date (never mind right when solar activity was at its peak), is at the very least highly speculative. To claim that we can be confident that this is what happened is borderline insane.

Or maybe it’s that other thing that Joanna Haigh insinuates about. Maybe there is an element of deliberateness to this “misunderstanding” where scads of PhD scientists all pretend that warming is driven by the rate of change of the temperature forcing, not the level of the forcing. How else to blame late 20th century warming on human activity? Some rationale has to be given for why it can’t have been caused by the high level of solar activity that was still raging. Aha, what if temperature were driven by the trend in the forcing rather than the level of the forcing? That would do it. Let’s say that one. Let’s pretend that even peak forcing will cause cooling as soon as the trend in the forcing turns down.

It’s one psycho-drama or the other: either Haigh’s insinuations about dishonesty are projection, accusing others of what she and her cohorts are actually doing, or she’s just dumber than a box of rocks.

Haigh also channels Steven Sherwood, pretending that the highlighted sentence is just about GCR-cloud

The draft report acknowledges substantial evidence for some mechanism of solar amplification and lists Henrick Svensmark’s GCR-cloud theory as an example of one possible such mechanism (7-43 of the SOD):

Many empirical relationships have been reported between GCR or cosmogenic isotope archives and some aspects of the climate system (e.g., Bond et al., 2001; Dengel et al., 2009; Ram and Stolz, 1999). The forcing from changes in total solar irradiance alone does not seem to account for these observations, implying the existence of an amplifying mechanism such as the hypothesized GCR-cloud link.

Haigh claims that the evidence about cloud formation being induced by cosmic rays points to a weak mechanism, then simply ignores the report’s admission of substantial evidence that some such mechanism must be at work:

Haigh says that if Rawls had read a bit further, he would have realised that the report goes on to largely dismiss the evidence that cosmic rays have a significant effect. “They conclude there’s very little evidence that it has any effect,” she says.

Rawls says that if Haigh had read the actual sentence itself, she would have realized that it isn’t about galactic cosmic rays, but only mentions GCR-cloud as one possible solar amplifier.

Aussie climatologist Steven Sherwood did the same thing, claiming (very prematurely) that the evidence does not support GCR-cloud as a substantial mechanism of solar amplification, then pretending away the report’s admission of clear evidence that some substantial such mechanism is at work:

He says the idea that the chapter he authored confirms a greater role for solar and other cosmic rays in global warming is “ridiculous”.

“I’m sure you could go and read those paragraphs yourself and the summary of it and see that we conclude exactly the opposite – that this cosmic ray effect that the paragraph is discussing appears to be negligible,” he told PM.

As JoNova and I blogged last weekend, this ploy inverts the scientific method, using theory (dissatisfaction with one particular theory of solar amplification) as an excuse for ignoring the evidence for some mechanism of solar amplification. Using theory to dismiss evidence is pure, definitional anti-science. Unfortunately, NewScientist gives this slick anti-scientist the last word:

“The most interesting aspect of this little event is it reveals how deeply in denial the climate deniers are,” says Steven Sherwood of the University of New South Wales in Sydney, Australia – one of the lead authors of the chapter in question. “If they can look at a short section of a report and walk away believing it says the opposite of what it actually says, and if this spin can be uncritically echoed by very influential blogs, imagine how wildly they are misinterpreting the scientific evidence.”

Sherwood and Haigh are flat lying to the public about what a simple single sentence says, pretending the admission of strong evidence for some substantial mechanism of enhanced solar forcing was never made, then trusting sympathetic reporters and editors not to call them on it. This is why the report had to be made public. After my submitted comments showed how thoroughly the new sentence undercuts the entire report it was obvious that the consensoids who run the IPCC would take the sentence right back out, and here Sherwood and Haigh are already trying to do exactly that.

Too late, anti-scientists. Your humbug is on display for the whole world to see.

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December 26, 2012 3:01 am

vukcevic says:
December 26, 2012 at 2:43 am
you can’t help yourself getting it wrong: it is not Arctic or Antarctic
In your various [many] graphs on this you always claim that the location where you measure the change is either the South Pole or the North Pole.

December 26, 2012 4:04 am

lsvalgaard says:
December 26, 2012 at 3:01 am
…….
You and Mosher can read page 13 & 14, there is all you need to know: the data source, method etc.
You also can do calculations and the spectrum plot as shown in Fig. 26, p.14.

Pamela Gray
December 26, 2012 6:54 am

There must be some kind of emotional reason why solar enthusiasts refuse to seriously consider the extremely weak nature of their postulates. Maybe they want to be able to say to the world you cannot control climate or weather in any way. We know that Earth can and does affect both weather and climate. Volcanoes can put is into a cool spell for a little while. We can ourselves seed clouds and even just water vapor and make it rain. Maybe this is their fear: Saying that Earth has in itself the stuff and energy necessary to change weather and climate leaves the door open for their opponents to say that CO2 then must have that capacity. Arguing against an emotionally protected point of view can never be won over. Which explains the voracity of opinions held here by both AGWs and solarists.

December 26, 2012 7:21 am

lsvalgaard says:
December 24, 2012 at 2:36 pm
I agree that there is no game changer but this is because it is IPCC’s ball, not because of semantics on deliberately obfuscatory prose. They already have the orders out for the faithful to write papers supporting the “sky is falling” line by responding to the leak that they will be accepting papers written in 2013. I think skeptical scientists with data showing the sky will stay where it’s supposed to should get writing, not waiting for the anticipated claptrap of rising seas, parched jungles and Antarctic beach volleyball. Having Sentator Kerry appointed as Secretary of CAGW will lift the spirits of a flagging IPCC and of course redouble the funding of a bunch that were getting ready to throw in the towel.

December 26, 2012 8:18 am

vukcevic says:
December 26, 2012 at 4:04 am
You and Mosher can read page 13 & 14, there is all you need to know
If you cannot explain it here there is little chance that your ‘explanation’ elsewhere will make sense.

December 26, 2012 8:32 am

Pamela Gray says:
December 26, 2012 at 6:54 am
……..
Number of expert papers consider ‘tidal mixing’ as an important factor in the temperature variability, except they can not agree if stronger tides cause cooling (Keeling) or warming (Munk and R.Ray). Tidal energy dissipation is highest in the far North Atlantic and N. Pacific where the ‘polar amplification’ is the strongest.
If you, or anyone else can find numerical data file for the graph shown in: ftp://ftp.flaterco.com/xtide/tidal_datums_and_their_applications.pdf
page10, it just may be possible to show magnitude of the Earth’s core differential rotation effect (it certainly has required mass available) as derived from the oscillations in the core’s magnetic field fluctuations
http://www.vukcevic.talktalk.net/EMFspectrum.htm
3000km diameter of the Earth’s core and specific gravity of the outer core (liquid) 9.9 to 12.2 and the inner core (solid): 12.6 to 13.0 would preclude any significant influence from atmospheric or oceanic circulation. Also the eological records for the N. Atlantic, North and the Central Pacific correlate with the climatic changes, well beyond a volcano or two producing sporadic cooling episodes.

December 26, 2012 9:05 am

lsvalgaard says:
If you cannot explain it here there is little chance that your ‘explanation’ elsewhere will make sense.
I do the data, don’t do the explanations, that is duty of scientists.

December 26, 2012 9:07 am

vukcevic says:
December 26, 2012 at 9:05 am
I do the data, don’t do the explanations, that is duty of scientists.
The scientists do the data, you have no understanding of the process and get the fundamentals wrong, then chicken out when asked to explain yourself.

December 26, 2012 9:41 am

Ho, Ho, Ho, father Christmas comes early to the town, with sack of the gracious gifts
Dr. S, you can do the graph first
http://www.vukcevic.talktalk.net/EMFspectrum.htm
(data source and the method are on the page 13)
then put your thinking hat on, else no contest.
But do remember gradient (known as the rate of change) is calculated as [F(t2)-F(t1)]/(t2-t1), we don’t want to go through that all over again.
BTW: Norwegian explorer Roald Amundsen arrived at the South Pole on 14 December 1911. He had a compass in his pocket. US Admiral Richard Byrd, flew over the South Pole on November 29, 1928. He also had a compass in his pocket.

December 26, 2012 9:49 am

vukcevic says:
December 26, 2012 at 9:41 am
>i>you can do the graph first
Many people have done that already, here is a typical result:
http://www.leif.org/research/Time-Spectrum-Geomagnetic-Field.png
No sign of any ‘Hale-period’ related to the secular variation. And you are still [it should be clear why] evading the issue.
BTW: Norwegian explorer Roald Amundsen arrived at the South Pole on 14 December 1911. He had a compass in his pocket. US Admiral Richard Byrd, flew over the South Pole on November 29, 1928. He also had a compass in his pocket.
If that is the level of understanding you have of deriving properties of the geomagnetic field for centuries in the past, then no wonder you find spurious things.

December 26, 2012 10:36 am

And you are still [it should be clear why] evading the issue.
And you are still failing to do spectrum of the Earth’s core fluctuation’s as derived from the geo-magnetic field [it should be clear why]..
You look at your graph and conclude ‘nothing there’ to show
I’ll look at my graph and conclude ‘great deal there’ to show.
bye bye

December 26, 2012 10:47 am

To the others interested in the above:
“Their analyses isolated six slow-moving oscillations, or waves of motion, occurring within the liquid core. The oscillations originated at the boundary between Earth’s core and its mantle and traveled inward toward the inner core with decreasing strength. Four of these oscillations were robust, occurring at periods of 85, 50, 35 and 28 years. Since the scientist’s data set goes back to 1840, the recurrence period of the longest oscillation (85 years) is less well determined than the other oscillations. The last two oscillations identified were weaker and will require further study.
The 85- and 50-year oscillations are consistent with a 1997 study by researchers Stephen Zatman and Jeremy Bloxham of Harvard University, Cambridge, Mass.”
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=2420
Higher frequencies you can only find here:
http://www.vukcevic.talktalk.net/EMFspectrum.htm
from data by Bloxham and Jackson
Hmmm. Not much of it shown in
http://www.leif.org/research/Time-Spectrum-Geomagnetic-Field.png
No surprise the AGWs don’t whish to know of more recent findings.

December 26, 2012 11:23 am

vukcevic says:
December 26, 2012 at 10:36 am
I’ll look at my graph and conclude ‘great deal there’ to show.
Spurious graphs are always interesting to their proponents.
vukcevic says:
December 26, 2012 at 10:47 am
Four of these oscillations were robust, occurring at periods of 85, 50, 35 and 28 years. Since the scientist’s data set goes back to 1840, the recurrence period of the longest oscillation (85 years) is less well determined than the other oscillations. The last two oscillations identified were weaker and will require further study.
Still no Hale-cycles there. Extend your ‘analysis’ to periods longer than 21 years and see if you recover the 28, 23, and 50 year peaks.
You seem to admit that there is no data before 1840 and that therefore the claims you have made for correlation over 1000 years are spurious. What characterizes a pseudo-scientist is the mixing of not-understood snippets.

December 26, 2012 12:05 pm

Yep, it’s all there.
See the lower graph
http://www.vukcevic.talktalk.net/EMFspectrum.htm
except that I have a higher resolution spectrum analyser, down to 5 years.
Now, stop fretting about, admit you lost this one, your spec is nonsense, go and do some science and abandon pointless denying.
Sun and Earth can do it, and they indeed do it.
CO2 is good to feed plants and make fizzy drinks but for climate change forget it.

December 26, 2012 12:17 pm

vukcevic says:
December 26, 2012 at 12:05 pm
nonsense
What is nonsense is your claims that the changes in the core are caused by the sun, and that the temperatures correlate with secular variation at the South [North] Pole over a thousand years. And you have still not explained what you call the ‘Earth’s Magnetic Field’ as that varies greatly from place to place.

December 26, 2012 12:38 pm

Fret, fret, never an end to it.
I did, see post http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/12/21/haigh-anxiety-a-psycho-comedy-of-errors/#comment-1182904
“It is at the core-mantle interface” ; short memory or trying to cover your losses?
Are you running away to the poles again?
What is this invention of “1000 years”? I bet you can’t find a quote.
Sun may be, more likely than not, I can’t prove it you can’t disprove it.
Sun and the Earth’s entwined symphony of oscillations creates natural climate undulations, sometimes as agreeable as the most melodic of the Mozart, sometime as dissonant as harshest of the Wagner. Sit back and enjoy it, the humans are too feeble to do anything about it.
You are a sour loser.
Cheer up and have a happy New Year.

December 26, 2012 1:30 pm

vukcevic says:
December 26, 2012 at 12:38 pm
“It is at the core-mantle interface”
Where the secular variation looks like this: http://www.leif.org/research/Secular-Variation-at-CMB.png
So, which point did you pick.
Are you running away to the poles again?
What is this invention of “1000 years”? I bet you can’t find a quote.

You mean you are busy cleaning up your web-page to cover your tracks?

December 26, 2012 2:14 pm

Bizarre !
Dr.S. : Herewith denied, as there are no data at all from Antarctica before 1957, so spectral analysis is spurious.
And yet shows illustration of variation of the secular magnetic field in the Antarctic since 1840.
http://www.leif.org/research/Secular-Variation-at-CMB.png
Beyond Bizarre !
Dr,. Svalgaard visits the Vukcevic website 67 times in 8min 55 sec, average 8 sec / web page, searching god knows for what?
Page Views:72 (67 this visit)
Entry Page Time:26 Dec 2012 21:42:42
Visit Length:8 mins 55 secs
Browser:Chrome 24.0 OS:Win7 Resolution:1920×1080 Total Visits:16
Location:Petaluma, California, United States IP Address:Comcast Cable (24.5.xxx.xx)
The above could only mean that our Dr. S. is really concerned about some of the vukcevic’s geomagnetic findings.Seldom a controversial new hypothesis has succeeded without strong opposition from guardians of the ‘eternal truth’.
Time for another celebratory drink.
Cheers !

December 26, 2012 2:20 pm

vukcevic says:
December 26, 2012 at 2:14 pm
searching god knows for what?
Looking the pages you have frauduently removed.
concerned about some of the vukcevic’s geomagnetic findings.Seldom a controversial new hypothesis has succeeded
Spurious correlations are not ‘findings’.
You ‘new hypothesis’ is not controversial. It belongs in the ‘not even wrong’ category.

December 26, 2012 2:37 pm

……hey, that’s really funny, I nearly spilled glass of good expensive wine over my old rickety keyboard….

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