This is an excerpt of a larger post that deserves the wider attention WUWT can bring to it. The image at left is from my article: A look at treemometers and tree ring growth – Anthony
Screening: Now with good+bad treenometers.
Written by: Lucia Liljegren
In my recent posts, I discussed how screening treenometers (or any proxy) based on correlation with temperature during the calibration period can screwup bias a proxy reconstruction in ways that deceive the analyst who is either unaware of or refuses to believe in the types of biases that screening introduces. With respect to blog spats about AGW, the short unnuanced interpretations of the two limits of what screening can do are:
- “If you screen, a batch of treenometers that do contain some signal, you can exaggerate a hockey stick.”
- “If you screen, treenometers that contain no signal at all, you can create a hockey stick from trendless data.” and
Both issues clearly make it difficult to decree that any hockey stick contained in a reconstruction where the specific proxies were selected by screening with correlation.
(Note: What I mean by screening here is “peeking” at the data to decided what to toss out. It’s ok to believe certain conditions result in high correlation, decree you will go out and collect trees from pre-designated sites, and then use all tree cores from all sites. What you must not do is collect the trees and afterwards toss out any tree cores or sites based on correlation with temperature during the calibration period.)
Naturally, based on my two extremes, people whose intuition says there must be some advantage to screening want to know two things:
- Suppose you pick sites, and you were somewhat successful, but some of the treenometer were temperature sensitive and others weren’t.
- Couldn’t you figure out how to “improve” results from a batch of “good” treenometer and bad ones?
Today, I’m going to what your results would look like in two cases. In one, by picking sites, you got batch of “quite good treenometers” mixed with a batch of “not treenometers at all” and in another, you got “adequate treenometers” mixed in with “not treenomters at all”
Read the post here in entirety, well worth your time. The results speak for themselves.
bill says:
June 19, 2012 at 2:17 pm
If A, then hockey sticks are exaggerated, if B, then hockey sticks are meaningless, therefore if either A or B, hockey sticks are uninstructive. Is that where we are?
It’s more like “When even random numbers give you a hockey stick, it’s time to revisit your code.”
Unless, of course, it was your intent to produce a hockey stick in the first place…
Plain Jane–
The block you saw was at cloudflare. That means someone with your IP broke ‘a rule’ that is set locally by my blocking software and that got escalated. (They all get escalated to spare my server.)
Your IP is now unblocked at cloudflare. But if something on that IP breaks a rule later one, it will get blocked again. Its easier for me to detect why the IP got blocked if someone communicates to me sooner rather than later.
I don’t mind your discussing blocking here. But Anthony might prefer his blog comments to be about climate change. So… if you really want to visit my blog it would be better to email me. My email address is easy to remember “lucia” at “the domain name for my blog”. If you know my blogs domain name (i.e. rankexploits.com) you know my email address!
To the tune of:
Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head
Hockey sticks are endin’ up in shreds
And just like the Mann whose ego’s too big for his head
Nothin’ seems to fit
Those hockey sticks are endin’ up in shreds, they keep shredin’
Hansen did him some talkin’ to the sun
And he said he didn’t like the way he’ got things done
Heatin’ up the globe
Those hockey sticks are endin’ up in shreds, they keep shredin’
But there’s one thing I know
CO2 he says will heat me won’t defeat me
It won’t be long till honest ones step up to greet me
Hockey sticks are endin’ up in shreds
And that does mean my world will soon be turnin’ red
Watermelon’s not for me
Cause he’s never gonna stop the sane by complainin’
Because I’m free
CO2’s not worrying me.
OOPS! Typo!
“And that does mean my world will soon be turnin’ red”
Should be “And that mean’s my world won’t soon be turnin’ red”