Younger Dryas -The Rest of the Story!

WUWT readers may recall this recent story: New evidence of Younger Dryas extraterrestrial impact The story below provides much more detail about the Younger Dryas event and the split that has developed in the scientific community over the cause. I’ve added this graph below from NCDC to give readers a sense of time and magnitude of the event. – Anthony

The Younger Dryas cold interval as viewed from central Greenland. From:
Quaternary Science Reviews Volume 19, Issues 1-5, 1 January 2000, Richard B. Alley
Guest Post By: Rodney Chilton www.bcclimate.com

A consideration of many other very important factors that should be considered as well as the “Black Mats and Nanodiamonds”

ABSTRACT:

The genesis of the Younger Dryas stadial (cold interval) remains an enigma. The onset was both climatologically unexpected and extremely sudden. The two principle theories are diametrically opposed and the proponents of both deeply committed. The debate to date has primarily been centred on some unusual “black mat” deposits that may or may not be linked to a cosmic origin. What has been lacking in the wider discussion are all the other important features associated with the Younger Dryas. The following addresses many of these, in hopes of their inclusion in future debate.

AND NOW THE REST OF THE STORY:

The Younger Dryas onset remains a little understood event. The cause of the 1,300 year-long interval continues to be debated. There are two completely different theories that have split the scientific community. One group strongly endorses an overall slowing or complete stoppage of the Northern Atlantic Ocean circulation 13,000 years ago. The other camp maintains that a catastrophic event originating from the cosmos was the cause.

Following on the heels of the mostly milder Bølling and Allerød intervals (interstadials), there was an extremely sudden and severe climate reversal, this was the Younger Dryas, first detected from Danish pollen studies as long ago as the mid 1930’s. Pollen from the Dryas flower, an arctic species lends its name to this very cold interval. The Younger Dryas cold was first thought to have been confined to north-west Europe, with a possible extension to some other localities immediately surrounding the North Atlantic. More recently however, the cold climate shift is seen as world-wide in extent or nearly so.

The Younger Dryas appeared similar to earlier events known as Heinrich events that were prominent in the Pleistocene (approximately 70,000 to 14,000 years ago) (1). Their cause is not altogether clear, but marine cores, primarily in the north-east Atlantic are festooned with layers of sand, pebbles and rock (lithic materials). These deposits arrived in this area carried on “large armadas” of ice that upon melting deposited their lodes onto ocean bottoms. Rapid climate shifts have been linked to ice melt from sea ice and the large continental glaciers that surrounded the North Atlantic. Lower salinity meltwater is less dense than ocean water and tends to float as a freshwater cap over the marine waters, and this is perceived as associated with North Atlantic Ocean circulation disruption. The Younger Dryas is understood to be linked primarily with meltwater almost solely from the great continental ice sheets.

North Atlantic Ocean circulation has been likened to a great ribbon-like conveyor belt (2). Driven by temperature (thermo) and salinity (haline) differences, the thermohaline (THC) circulation is associated with the formation of North Atlantic Deep Water (NADW). The sinking of the NADW is alleged to result in the drawing north of warmer waters from southerly climes. This provides north-west Europe with its generally mild climate. However all of this is thought to change when the North Atlantic Ocean circulation slowed or stopped.

It has been proposed that a sudden immense amount of fresh water disrupted the THC approximately 13,000 years ago, and the most likely source was eastern North America’s Laurentide Ice Sheet (3). This particular scenario is presumed to have been affiliated with the relocation of freshwater outflow that had been exiting via the Mississippi River with entry into the Gulf of Mexico. Presumably, an alternate route, the more northerly St. Lawrence corridor became available as the Laurentide Glacier retreated (4). As time has passed however, this idea has largely been abandoned. Not only did salinity levels in the off shore waters adjacent to the St. Lawrence remain the same during the Younger Dryas (5), but the St. Lawrence route remained blocked by ice until well after the Younger Dryas ended (6).

Failure of the St. Lawrence River to deliver the melt has lead to alternative freshwater routes proposed. One of these involves the continent of Antarctica. The idea suggested here is that a significant increase in meltwater entry into world oceans took place approximately 14,300 to 14,600 years ago (7). An inundation known as “meltwater – pulse 1a” (mwp-1a) occurred with perhaps as much as 90% of the meltwater volume originating from Antarctica (8). This premise has the Antarctic melt as affecting the North Atlantic region, but with a significant delay (the bipolar see-saw concept where at least Antarctic climate is out of phase with the Northern Hemisphere). The eventual arrival of the Antarctica melt waters is seen then, as making the North Atlantic vulnerable to even modest amounts of meltwater (9). Presumably, the final threshold was crossed 13,000 BP, allowing the North Atlantic to become disrupted (10). Not all researchers share this view, as at least one study assigned a much different date for mwp-1a, and that was shortly before 13,800 BP (11). And although these scientists also conclude slowing or shutdown of the North Atlantic, the Antarctic as a source becomes questionable.

Since the Antarctic theory appeared, a number of other possible North Atlantic meltwater sources have been suggested. The first of these considered meltwater from the Laurentide as flowing northward through the Canadian Arctic via the Hudson Strait before reaching the North Atlantic (12). A second route was proposed more recently, and this was freshwater flowing across Arctic Canada from the main Laurentide source, Lake Agassiz, then down the Mackenzie River and into the Arctic Ocean (13). The first of these meltwater corridors has now been shown to have remained blocked by ice throughout the early Younger Dryas, much like the St. Lawrence (14), and the second pathway, the Mackenzie, required adjustments to both the Laurentide Ice Sheet and the underlying landmass, before model simulations even allowed meltwater flow to take place (15).

As just mentioned, the main Laurentide meltwater source originated in the huge glacial lake, Agassiz. Most research has indicated that there was a significant lowering of the lake approximately 13,000 years ago. The assumption to date has been that most of the water exited by one corridor or another. However, recent research has suggested that Lake Agassiz may not have experienced very much rapid outflow at all. Dr. Thomas Lowell of the University of Cincinnati contends that lake lowering resulted primarily from open lake evaporation when the lake was ice-free and some sublimation when it was frozen (16). However, this too has been disputed by another study that questions the very high rate of evaporation that the Lowell findings contend; this at a time when the climate was presumably very cold (17). The scientists who criticized the evaporation idea however fall back on the now implausible St. Lawrence meltwater route (18).

Certainly a very important question regarding the Younger Dryas is what effects, if any, were felt elsewhere in the world (away from the immediate confines of the North Atlantic). There are some indications that one outcome was similar to the most recent Heinrich event, specifically a warming of one to two degrees Celsius in the western tropical Atlantic and the Caribbean (19). The reason given for this warming is evidence of a response to strengthened easterly trade winds, which causes greater amounts of warm water to be driven into the Gulf of Mexico (20). Well to the west, on the north coast of South America the same stronger trade winds may also have induced ocean upwelling (21).

The evidence for the greater ocean upwelling is increased ocean productivity within the Cariaco Basin (22). However, the very premise of a trade wind induced warmer Caribbean and western tropical Atlantic during the Younger Dryas is now seen as suspect. Recent studies have shown that south-east portions of North America, the Caribbean and western tropical Atlantic all became much drier and colder at this time (23,24). Central America, for instance, shows a 300-400 metre lowering of the subalpine tree line. This is equivalent to a two to three degree Celsius temperature decrease (25). A number of other studies also indicate colder temperatures.

One of the more important proxies comes from the Orca Basin within the Gulf of Mexico. This is a very interesting study, dependent upon the assessment of certain specific marine organisms. This has allowed scientists to make some startling conclusions. An organism, Globigerinoides Ruber (a species tolerant of high salinity and cold ocean temperatures), when compared to five other marine species less tolerant of cold and high salinity depicted a sudden change in the Orca Basin ecology 13,000 BP (26). Originally, the Orca Basin was thought to have become much more saline, the result of a sudden diversion of meltwater from the Mississippi to the St. Lawrence corridor. However, the eastward meltwater route has now been shown to have been implausible. Instead, it now appears that the Orca Basin experienced a five or six degree drop in ocean temperature. (27). This has recently been confirmed by a new study that depicts significantly colder SST occurred within the Orca Basin region (28). All of this is consistent with a meltwater pulse continuing down the Mississippi and not flowing into the St. Lawrence.

It is interesting too, that the Younger Dryas is now seen has being a widespread event that extended well beyond the North Atlantic. The cold and predominately dry interval is now documented from all across North America and northward as far as Alaska. South America also experienced a definitive climate shift to a predominately cold and arid regime. This included the Amazon Basin, covering a significant portion of the tropical and subtropical latitudes of South America. Indications of an extreme drop in Amazon River levels to as little as 40% to 60% of present day levels are evident (29). Lake Junin (11° S), a high elevation lake in the northern Andes is a second proxy showing an arid Younger Dryas, as lake levels were at their very lowest for the last 14,000 years (30). Not only did the climate become drier, it appears to have become colder too. Certainly the two to three degrees Celsius cooling, in Colombia is an indicator (31). The aforementioned very low Amazon River level may well have been a response to decreased snowmelt and run-off from a colder Andes mountain chain.

Further to the south in the Altiplano region (15° to 23° S), the climate during cold intervals like the Younger Dryas is expected to be wet (32). However, 13,000 years ago there appears to have been an exception (33). Indications are from the glacier Sajama (18° S) that a retreat of the glacier occurred, much as Glacier Quelccaya had done a little further to the north (both likely responding to a drier and colder habitat) (34). Further, considering once again the very low Amazon water levels, the Altiplano source region also appears to have been experiencing a decrease in precipitation.

Aside from a study from the Great Australian Bight (32° –35° S) (35) and an area near the edge of Antarctica (36) where distinct cooling was evident 13,000 years ago, the remainder of the Southern Hemisphere does not show a definitive warming or cooling trend.

Antarctica, at least the interior portions of the continent, may well be a different matter entirely. Here, the analysis of ice cores depicts a climate out of sync with the rest of the planet. Research suggests that very strong downslope (katabatic) winds prevent weather (climate) from penetrating any appreciable distance inland (37). However, it must be said that conclusions as to the Antarctic climate during the Younger Dryas are far from certain. There are problems having to do with the generally very light snowfall that is a feature of Antarctica.. This prevents researchers from accurately differentiating climate intervals of less than about 2,000 years (38).

One type of methodology that permits past climate to be assessed depends upon the analysis of various gases that become trapped within ice after being deposited as snow within ice sheets throughout the world. The worldwide dispersion of most gases only takes one or two years, this allows comparisons of relative gas concentrations in localities as far apart as Greenland and Antarctica. The alignment of ice cores from low snowfall Antarctic and higher snowfall Greenland permits scientists to differentiate past climate. The problem is that it takes many years for the gas to be completely sealed off from the present day atmosphere. This varies between low snowfall areas like Vostok in Antarctica, where it takes as long as 2,500 to 6,000 years to “close off’ (depending upon the age of the ice deposit) to about 60 to 100 years in Greenland cores (39). The technique, while very good in determining the longer-term glacial and interglacial periods, at least in Antarctica is clearly inadequate for shorter-term events such as the Younger Dryas.

The continued contention that the North Atlantic was the principle trigger of the Younger Dryas has relied heavily upon a number of marine cores from the Atlantic. The first of these cores comes from the Bermuda Rise (EN120GGC1 – (33° 40’ N., 57° 37’ W)), where the analysis of benthic profiles of carbon 12 and 13 isotopes, along with cadmium/calcium ratios theoretically shows North Atlantic Ocean circulation disruption (40). However, a number of problems have been identified that relate to the Bermuda Rise marine core. Before analysis could be done a comparison was required with another marine core, CH73-139C (54° 30’ N., 16° 21’ W.), a core now found to have been affected by a condition called “bioturbation” (an unwanted mixing of the marine sedimentary layers) (41). This prevents precise dating as to the time when the slowing or stoppage of the ocean circulation occurred (42). A second problem with the samples from Bermuda Rise is its location. Rather than sampling the desired amounts of deep water from the North Atlantic and Antarctic, it appears to be sampling an area where a localized mixing of ocean waters took place, that once again prevents accurate assessments (43).

The marine species Neogloboquadriana pacyderma, a polar organism displayed a definitive shift in population approximately 13,000 years ago, both at a marine core, Troll 3.1 (60° 47’N., 03° 43’W.), just west of Norway, and a second core V23-81 (54°02’N., 16° 08’ W.), just off Ireland’s west coast (44). Both of these studies have been drawn upon to deduce that a slowing or complete shutdown of the North Atlantic Ocean circulation occurred 13,000 BP. A third study, that utilizes diatoms, (much more sensitive than Neogloboquadriana pacyderma), is very likely more appropriate in discerning relatively brief cold intervals such as the Younger Dryas (45). This study from the South-east Norwegian Sea does show a definitive shift of five to six degrees Celsius. However, that may or may not necessarily be attributable to North Atlantic circulation disruption (46). The following quote highlights the researchers caution when they stated, “there is evidence that cooling was related to reduced salinities, but this does not prove a direct causal relationship that cooling was directly forced by meltwater events” (47). The shift instead may simply have been the result of changes in the relative number of polar and arctic organisms (48).

The inference drawn is that cold intervals such as the Younger Dryas may well have another altogether different trigger than North Atlantic Ocean circulation. Further to this, a somewhat more recent paper, also by the same researchers that conducted the study in the Norwegian Sea indicates, that a reduction in incoming solar radiation might be the trigger that initiates fluctuations in the polar front in the Nordic Seas (49). It is very intriguing that a reduction in incoming solar radiation may have occurred at a time when during the summer a maximum of solar energy should have been occurring (see ref. 75).

The whole concept of North Atlantic Ocean circulation as having any appreciable influence upon the Younger Dryas is placed further in doubt by the work of Dr. Michael Sarnthein. Dr. Sarnthein has collected a large number of marine cores from throughout the Atlantic sampling the interval back to 30,000 before present (BP).

The conclusion gleaned from his work reveals that the North Atlantic Ocean circulation was operative during the Younger Dryas, and had been so for more than 1,500 years prior to the start of this cold period (50). This is consistent with one other high-resolution marine core from the South Atlantic (presumably a good location to detect North Atlantic shifts) that does not show a slowing or shutdown of the North Atlantic (51).

Oceanographer Dr. Carl Wunsch has gone so far as to suggest that the whole concept of a temperature and salinity induced ocean circulation shift is in error, at least in the North Atlantic (52). Dr. Wunsch also believes that the North Atlantic is simply too small to cause significant climate changes in other parts of the world (53). Dr. Wunsch was even more emphatic about the role of the North Atlantic in climate changes when he stated that “you can’t turn the Gulf Stream off as long as wind blows in the North Atlantic” and then goes on to say that “the conveyor is kind of fairy tale for grownups”(54). Dr. Richard Alley seems to echo these sentiments when he questioned how the small high latitude North Atlantic “energy starved polar tail” could possibly “wag the large energy rich tropical dog”(55).

Apart from this, the presence of a less dense freshwater cap may not result in what many scientists see as a cooling at all. Instead, Dr. Richard Fairbanks sometime ago suggested that the presence of a shallow freshwater lid over more saline waters might be subject to rapid warming during the summer and early autumn (56). Thus, instead of the commonly perceived shift to cold associated with the presence of freshwater within the North Atlantic may well result in warming. This of course is the exact opposite of what many scientists currently believe occurred during the Younger Dryas. All of this presumes that there may have been a less saline North Atlantic at this time. However, according to many scientists there was an absence of meltwater entering world oceans approximately 13,000 BP, thereby making this scenario unlikely.

There are in addition a number of other perplexing factors apparent during the Younger Dryas: Carbon 14 (14C), for instance, increased markedly by 70% to 80% at the very beginning of the cold interval (57,58,59). This far exceeds the expected 30% or 35% 14C increase when the North Atlantic allegedly slows or shuts down (60,61). The consideration of possible 14C increases from geomagnetic changes or increased sea ice coverage are also thought to be quite insignificant (62). A second element, Beryllium 10 (10Be), also increased significantly approximately 13,000 years ago. Snowfall at this time in Antarctica and Greenland was much reduced, and it is this that some scientists see as the cause for higher 10Be concentrations (63). The contention is that the snow that did fall removed as effectively the beryllium from the atmosphere, thereby resulting in higher concentrations within ice. However, an alternative view is seen as plausible, and that is simply that there was much more 10Be in the atmosphere during the Younger Dryas (64,65). Both of these elemental forms are known to be products of cosmic events that therefore lend credence to the Impact Hypothesis.

Two other deposits within Greenland and Antarctica glacial ice display interesting characteristics as well. Nitrates are one of these, and though very difficult to analyze, there appears to be little doubt that much of the increase 13,000 BP was attributable to very high amounts in the atmosphere (66,67). A second deposit, ammonium, was also greatly elevated during the Younger Dryas. The predominate origin for Younger Dryas ammonia that arrives in Greenland is North America, and one reason proposed for very high levels is that biological activity remained very prominent because of a continuation of a mild climate (68). However, it is now known that North America did become significantly colder at this time, therefore making greater biological activity extremely unlikely. Thus, there are more questions than answers about the possible origins of the elevated levels of both nitrates and ammonium.

Even more intriguing, and more controversial as well, are a number of other deposits found both in soil and ice, possibly linked to a cosmic origin (69). Associated with an unusual “black mat” deposit found in many of the terrestrial sites, the dates for this layer are very close to the 13,000 BP Younger Dryas beginnings (70). What has garnered most of the attention thus far, are features called “nanodiamonds.” One way in which nanodiamonds are produced is under very high temperatures and pressures (consistent with a cosmic origin). Scientists such as geologist Dr. Allen West contends that approximately 13,000 years ago “ a low density object” entered the Earth’s atmosphere, disintegrated explosively, and the remnants of the catastrophe rained down upon the planet (71). The signatures (including nanodiamonds)of this event were left behind throughout a widespread area that includes Europe, the Greenland Ice Sheet and North and South America (72,73,74).

Another perplexing feature of the Younger Drays is that it was a time of increased solar insolation during the summer months. Solar receipt during summer months when received associated with “June perihelion.” Somewhat surprisingly, it is the summer months that are most critical to snow and ice being retained from one year to the next at the Northern Hemisphere high latitudes (75). This particular alignment has occurred forty-two times over the past one million years and the Younger Dryas is noted as the only significant cold interval (76).

Two final features to be noted about the Younger Dryas, is that it took hold, not in decades as was once thought, but rather in as little time as a few years, or even less (77,78). This is but another piece of the puzzle that does not fit with the whole premise of an ocean induced short-term cold climate interval. It may be concluded that an alternative hypothesis, that of a very large cosmic event took place not that far from Earth, 13,000 years ago. All things considered, the evidence that supports this cosmic origin is available in much greater detail elsewhere, though a number of scientific papers are referenced here.

Concluding Remarks:

Despite all of the preceding discussion as to its numerous shortcomings, the North Atlantic Ocean circulation as cause for the Younger Dryas, remains the most widely accepted hypothesis. During the past several years, however, a debate on what is seen by many as a much more plausible trigger, one that involves either a very close comet passage or even a possible impact event that had transpired. To date, the primary focus in attempts to justify a cosmic origin for the Younger Dryas has been almost totally limited to black mat deposits (specifically nanodiamonds), that have been detected in various parts of the world. This is far too limited an approach!

It is the purpose of this paper to attempt to raise the profile of the long list of other very important clues that also require consideration. An in conclusion, a list of many of the most important aspects are listed as follows:

  1. The North Atlantic Ocean circulation (known as the THC) slowing or shutdown was not triggered by meltwater suddenly shunted down the St. Lawrence, nor was it likely to have flowed north through Arctic Canada. Nor was the continent of Antarctica involved in Younger Dryas forcing.
  2. Furthermore, dating of significant meltwater entries into the world’s ocean have not been shown as contemporary with the Younger Dryas onset.
  3. The main marine cores drawn upon as evidence for the THC hypothesis have either proven to be unreliable, or in some other cases only circumstantial.
  4. And in contrast, with the just mentioned marine cores, are the proxies collected by Dr. Michael Sarnthein that depict the North Atlantic Ocean circulation as operative during the Younger Dryas and much as 1,500 years before the interval, as well throughout the Younger Dryas. In fact, the North Atlantic appeared to have been operative as much as 1,500 year before the start of the interval, and continued right on through the period as well.
  5. Increases of both 14C and 10Be are much too large to be associated with the North Atlantic Ocean circulation disruption.
  6. Also, as time as gone in it is becoming increasingly evident that the onset of the Younger Dryas was indicative of atmospheric origins for the event, in that the onset was so very rapid, perhaps in one year or less.
  7. Finally, it should also be stated that such an extraordinarily severe and long-lasting event occurred at a time when glacial and sea ice expansion took place despite a peaking of solar radiation in the most critical summer months.

Acknowledgements:

My thanks to Steve Garcia and Clint Unwin for their valuable suggestions, and thorough editing of the foregoing paper. Also to Reed Kirkpatrick for keeping me apprised of some specific subject areas.

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62) R.B Firestone et al., “Evidence for an Extraterrestrial Impact 12,9000 Years Ago that Contributed to the Megafaunal Extinctions and the Younger Dryas,” (2007): PNAS 104 #41, 16016-16021.

63) Heather Pringle, “Firestorm from Space Wiped out Prehistoric Americans,” (2007): New Scientist 8-9.

64) Ibid.

65) R.B Firestone et al., “Evidence for an Extraterrestrial Impact 12,9000 Years Ago that Contributed to the Megafaunal Extinctions and the Younger Dryas,” (2007): PNAS 104 #41, 16016-16021.

66) W.C. Mahaney et al., (2010) “Evidence from the North-western Venezuelan Andes for Extraterrestrial Impact: The Black Mat Enigma,” http://www.science.com

67) A.V. Kurbatov et al., “Discovery of a Nanodiamond – Rich Layer in the Greenland Ice Sheet,” (2010): Journal of Glaciology 56, 749-758.

68) B. Molfino and A. McIntyre, “Nutricline Variation in the Equatorial Atlantic Coincident with the Younger Dryas,” (1990): Paleoceaography 5, 997-1008.

69) Ibid.

70) J. P. Steffenson et al., “High-Resolution Greenland Ice Core Data Show Abrupt Climate Change Happens in a Few Years,” (2008): Science 321, 680-683.

71) K. Ravillious” Ice Age Took Hold in Less than a Year,” (2009): New Scientist, 10.

Rodney R. Chilton, a climatologist for the past thirty years, is interested in a number of nature’s mysteries, including the enigmatic Younger Dryas. The author resides on southern Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Canada.

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Bill Illis
June 17, 2012 7:02 am

I have three comments about the Younger Dryas:
– the temperature decline was much smaller than is typically quoted (globally only 2.0C);
– the temperature decline really started at the Older Dryas event 14,300 years ago, 1,500 years earlier;
– there are 26 similar events in the ice cores, it happens on its own every 3,000 to 10,000 years in a glacial cycle.
The Younger Dryas temperature decline is often quoted based on Richard Alley’s GISP2 ice core calibration. The isotope data in this ice core has been calibrated to a “faulty borehole temperature reconstruction formula”. Antarctica only declined by -4.0C. Other isotope data around the world says -1.0C to -3.0C. The proper formula for Greenland dO18 isotope data would be about -4.0C (whereas the borehole/Alley method has Greenland rising to +10C in the last Eemian interglacial which would have melted out all of Greenland’s glaciers – it is faulty).
The event really started at 14,300 years ago, the Older Dryas. There was as much decline from this time to start of the Younger Dryas as during the Younger.
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/4267/transliagrnld.png
The Greenland and Antarctic ice cores show these periodic upswings/downswings every 3,000 to 10,000 years – the Heinrich events. It is really, really difficult for an ice sheet to get all the way down to Chicago or New York. The summer sunshine, even in the downturns of the Milankovitch Cycles, is not much different than today so during the summer, the glacial fronts at Chicago, New York or even at 60N are melting furiously. There are just periods when the glaciers advance rapidly and, if there is not enough accumulation at the centre load points to continue the push south, the glaciers melt back just as rapidly – global Albedo swings back and forth from 0.33 to 0.31 during these advance/retreat cycles – thus rapid global cooling/warming cycles – Heinrich events.
The Older and Younger Dryas were just the last of these advance cycles.
http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/7671/liagrnld.png
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_event

Clay Marley
June 17, 2012 7:33 am

“Well we don’t know what caused it, but do we know what caused the rapid temp increase that ended the younger dryas?”
“Others have questioned how a cosmic event could have such a long tail – 1,300 (?) years – or did something cosmic last that long?”
The Younger Dryas is characterized by both a sudden ingress and sudden egress. A cosmic impact could explain the sudden cooling, but after the earth will slowly move back to an equilibrium state. It doesn’t really explain the extended stability at the new state nor the sudden warming 1300 years later. We might argue that an impact resulted in the earth entering some new metastable state for a long period, but something needs to cause the equally dramatic shift to a new warmer state.
At any rate, thanks for the post Rodney. It’s a good mystery.

June 17, 2012 7:54 am

Until we find geological evidence of visitations by frost aliens it makes sense to look to the one truly independent variable that we are most familiar with being the cause of warming and cooling — nominally, it’s the sun, stupid.

John G.
June 17, 2012 8:03 am

Maybe it’s all cosmic rays. Suppose we’re (the solar system) is cruising along through the galaxy receiving a lot of cosmic radiation because of our position in the galaxy, radiation sufficient to keep earth cold and glaciating (via the Svensmark effect). We start to move into a patch of lower radiation and the earth begins to warm when all of a sudden we enter the cone of radiation from a super nova which drives the temperatures back down. A thousand years later we abruptly leave the cone and temperatures quickly return to where they would have been which is considerably higher than they were when we entered the cone because we continued moving into the area of lower background cosmic radiation during the whole thousand years. The temperature curve would look something like the one shown. I have no idea whether this is a ridiculous speculation, I’m not a cosmologist, astronomer or physicist but it seemed plausible to me. Just thought I’d throw it out.

lemiere jacques
June 17, 2012 8:05 am

good science!!! they are…skeptical….

June 17, 2012 8:14 am

The Younger Dryas cause is similar but more dramatic than a larger volcanic eruption where we see an immediate lowering of temperature associated with high altitude ash reflection solar radiance. Further more, the volcanic event is short lived in global climate influence. However, a super volcanic eruption or atmospheric explosion that can intensely darken the atmosphere for a longer period of time will be more effective in cooling global climate. In both cases the climate rebounds, demonstrating a resilient global climate. Ice age interglacial periods are thus driven by something stronger than the cause of the Younger Dryas event. My humble thoughts on the subject.

June 17, 2012 8:21 am

The Younger Dryas cause is similar but more dramatic than a larger volcanic eruption where we see an immediate lowering of temperature associated with high altitude ash reflection solar radiance. Further more, the volcanic event is short lived in global climate influence. However, a super volcanic eruption or atmospheric explosion that can intensely darken the atmosphere for a longer period of time will be more effective in cooling global climate. In both cases the climate rebounds, demonstrating a resilient global climate. Ice age interglacial periods are thus driven by something stronger than the cause of the Younger Dryas event. Humble observation.

Juraj V.
June 17, 2012 8:23 am

This [Gulf Stream] provides north-west Europe with its generally mild climate.
I read it is not true. It depends on prevailing atmospheric circulation. Gulf Stream did not stop a bit during the extreme winter 2010 in western Europe.

pyromancer76
June 17, 2012 8:33 am

Caveats: Gratitude to Anthony for publishing this “discussion” of the Y-D events. Appreciation to Rodney Chilton’s for the desire to summarize Younger-Dryas research. I believe that the Y-D is one of the most significant “mysteries” for us to solve for our future on Earth. Solving the “mysteries” and thinking through the necessary adjustments to these kinds of climate changes, whether of impact origin or “cyclic” (meaning “regular”) climate events, is where our gazillions of “climate” doillars should focus.
Problems: I have an ever expanding file of Y-D research, much of which is not included in the footnotes of Chilton’s research summary. Most of his 71 citations of evidence comes from Nature or Science, or from Paleoceranography from the 1990s. Example: Out of 71 footnotes, 23 refer to Nature “research”; 10 from Science “research”; 9 from 1990s research in Paleoceanography; 12 from a variety of 1990s or earlier research. Only 13 citations are from 2000 or later research, with three of them coming from conferences.
I turned to Chilton’s footnotes early on because I was very interested in expanding my files. I have to say I was shocked that this information was presented as the most forward variety of scientific research and interpretations of the events of the Younger-Dryas “mystery”. The discussion among scientists has been repleat with hostile and denigrating comments and “counter-research” for many years, especially to those who propose anything but a uniformitarian approach. Moreover, I had to unsubscribe to Nature and Science because of: lack of actual peer review, no requirment that data and methods for research are available to those who want to check results, and the evident take-over of the editorial board/staff by “AGWers”.
I look forward to Anthony’s continuing presentations of essays that discuss most recent research, data, and interpretations, including which data is used as the baseline for “temperature” changes and how many checks have been made by other researchers as to the validity of that data. Scientists “could” approach these issues with both assertiveness and cooperation.

Steve P
June 17, 2012 8:37 am

The paper does a good job of pointing out weaknesses in the various arguments for ocean circulation as a main driver of changes to Earth’s climate. Beyond that, we know that ocean currents could not create the nano-diamonds associated with the onset of the YD, nor can impacts account for the frequent sudden spikes upward in temperature that are as prominent in the ice core records as relatively sudden drops.
It is possible that the Sun is a variable star, that Earth is visited at perhaps regular intervals by cosmic interlopers of one kind or another, and also that EM forces may be responsible for still further disruptions to life on Earth.

June 17, 2012 9:00 am

It has been proposed that a sudden immense amount of fresh water disrupted the THC approximately 13,000 years ago,
Henry says
which, as the story (from Noah) goes, (NOT ONLY FROM THE BIBLE)
indeed, came from the atmosphere….
as I said,
\we (people) were living under much higher pressure before.

Judy W
June 17, 2012 9:12 am

Charles Hapgood’s theory of sudden crustal displacement is still out there but not given much credence with the scientific community. Albert Einstein did support his idea and wrote in the foreword of Hapgood’s book:
In a polar region there is continual deposition of ice, which is not symmetrically distributed about the pole. The earth’s rotation acts on these unsymmetrically deposited masses, and produces centrifugal momentum that is transmitted to the rigid crust of the earth. The constantly increasing centrifugal momentum produced in this way will, when it has reached a certain point, produce a movement of the earth’s crust over the rest of the earth’s body… (Hapgood, 1958, p. 1)
——————————
Hapgood, Charles H. (1958). Earth’s Shifting Crust: A Key to Some Basic Problems of Earth Science. New York: Pantheon Books.
——————————
A sudden shift of the polar ice cap from Hudson Bay, as an example, to the current icecap position would be capable of producing catastrophic tsunamis, global flooding, depopulation, climate change and sudden freezing of mastodons relocated to the Arctic zone due to the shift.

George E. Smith;
June 17, 2012 9:32 am

“””””……….Philip Mulholland says:
June 17, 2012 at 4:43 am
Here you are George:-
Dryas (plant)
Eightpetal Mountain-Avens……….”””””
Well thanks Philip; I really appreciate that info. I never would have guessed that some weedus commonus, would be responsible for the climate going to hell. Perhaps it says more about publishing scientists; who seem to enjoy coming up with some totally obscure label for some event; obviously to make themselves self aggrandized because they alone understand what the hell amalgamese tobunganate is !
I typically start at the bottom of these threads, to see what the most recent posts are, and work up to see what if anything they are responding to, so on the way up to your information, I did come across a Bill Illis (thanks Bill) post, in which he mentions the “Older Dryas” ,
which seems to occur right around the time of my ” who dat ?”
So I never know from one day to the next, what interesting stuff I am going to learn each day at the Hacienda A. Watts. I know zippo about Botany, other than I can kill any plant that ever evolved, by just planting it in my garden; which is why I prefer green concrete; and I know almost as much about zoology. The one thing I do know, is that Makaira Indica is NOT the blue marlin (indigo), and Makaira Nigricans, is NOT the black marlin.
Well hell, they screwed up when they decided that electrons are negatively charged, so forever we have to put up with the mass of the electron travelling in the opposite direction to the electric current., so they got the marlins switched too. Actually, neither one of them is black.
Thanks again Philip, and Bill Illis too.

June 17, 2012 9:45 am

In 1961, as a geologist for the Geological Survey of Manitoba, I was mapping Precambrian geology in the Rat River area in central Manitoba and, in the middle of a jackpine forest, came upon a classic barchan
http://bing.search.sympatico.ca/?q=Barkan&mkt=en-ca&setLang=en-CA
sand dune largely overgrown except for the ridge. This represents wind-blown sand from one of the strand lines of Lake Agassiz as it drained north in a series of steps. Strand lines are clearly visible from along the eastern margin of the Riding Mountains in Manitoba down into the basin and also in North and South Dakota where the famous Campbell beach occurs, and mark the drops in lake level in a number of steps. The establishment of new strandlines at lower lake levels does not occur in a short period of time but rather takes centuries to develop and mature the beaches. At Carberry Hills, Manitoba, a wide zone of dunes marks a delta of the Assinaboine River where it entered Lake Agassiz about 10,000 years ago. A prominent strandline is that of Campbell-McCauley beach in North Dakota.
http://bing.search.sympatico.ca/?q=Campbell-McAuley%20beach&mkt=en-ca&setLang=en-CA
“The Campbell beach represents the elevation of glacial Lake Agassiz from approximately 12,200 to 11,000 years before present, around 10,700 years before present, and again from approximately 9900 to 9000 years before present (Arndt, 1977). Prior to 12,200 years before present, the lake stage was above the Campbell beach and glacial Lake Agassiz drained through a southern outlet into the Minnesota River valley.”
Go to the source, you researchers and you will see the argument isn’t about whether a sudden rush of freshwater went out the St. Lawrence, the Mississippi (the later emptying went out into Hudson’s Bay) or Arctic Canada, but whether there was a sudden rush at all.

Jim
June 17, 2012 9:57 am

Not too surprising. These CAGW-enthusiasts are worried about a fraction of a degree temperature rise and thousands of years ago, the earth dropped almost 20 degrees from a cosmic impact. Also note we’re currently in one of the colder periods historically of the last 10,000 years or so. Not surprising to anyone who has researched paleoclimate, except for the hockey stick tribe. The Roman Warm Period temperatures were 2 degrees warmer than today!

cui bono
June 17, 2012 10:08 am

Whoohoo! Real science, not another stream of dodgy data from dodgy advoscientists. A fascinating tale, and thanks to Mr. Chilton and Anthony.
Two comments and a plea:
(1) Comets are messy – ice, rocks, dumped tyres (well, they turn up everywhere else). If one hit the Earth or exploded in the atmosphere there should be more than nanodiamonds as a result. But I guess that’s what Mr Chilton means when he talks of widening the search net.
(2) GuarionexSandoval (June 16, 2012 at 5:12 pm) refers to possible extreme plasma events. I wonder whether the end of an ice age, with rock rebounding from the ice mass, could cause some major events of this nature. Rocks under extreme pressure have been linked to ball lightning (and, therefore, UFOs!).
And the plea: Nooo to Atlantis, Noah, and (heaven forfend) Velikovski.

George E. Smith;
June 17, 2012 10:43 am

“””””…..Elizabeth Elmore says:
June 17, 2012 at 6:42 am …..”””””…..
“””””……Removal of the canopy in a simi-arid climate can tip the balance from a self-sustaining cool micro-climate which precipitates rain out of the off ocean winds, to desert. If you live in LA and like to shower, you might not want those boundaries cut. We are also talking about maintaining forests standing, and in the hands of the peoples who have always lived in them, or weather we want to see multi-national timber interests force the people off the land and clear cut it for plantations……..”””””
“””””…..Talking about Global Warming is a proxy for weather……..”””””
Well Elizabeth, just what were you smoking, when you were in those National Forests WEST of Bakersfield; the only forests I know of in that region are forests of those grasshopper oil well pumps.
LA is a natural desert basin, that doesn’t really have any water in it to shower with, so they have to steal it from somebody else, so you can take a shower and water your golf course.
Personally, I have always preferred “Navy” showers, which only require a basin of water; perhaps one gallon, and a decent face cloth. On my recent trip back to Auckland NZ, I had a great revelation, discovered at the home of a retired UofA prof, who was my tour guide for a week.
I discovered the benefits of taking a Navy shower with a dish sponge, instead of a basin of water. So now my daily ritual, is down to less than a cup full of water, and the soap lasts much longer, too, and doesn’t pollute the drainage as much. You should try it if you really are concerned about water conservation.
I’m not for clear cutting of forests and turning the forest nymphs out in the cold and dust; seems to me there really aren’t any Native American tribes living in their old homes in the LA basin any more either.
Clear cutting, and prompt replanting, is a standard method of forest husbandry, for wood products; but I’m not for leaving cut national forests unplanted. The reason these forests ARE National Forests; rather than State or privately owned lands, simply recognizes, that people in every State, have an interest in access to forest products; whether they have local forests for the nymphs to run around in or not.
Some States, don’t have the ability to grow square miles of food grains either, and many States don’t have either oil or natural gas. I guess when we all co-operate, we all benefit from the combined efforts and resources of a diverse populace.
By the way, sometimes clear cutting is the only way to access some forest products, because environmental regulations don’t allow selective access to available timber, including no roads for fire suppression either.
My house is also now 100% LED illumination; no hot incandescents, and no mercury filled fluorescents either, and about one fifth of the electricity usage; and ALL off the shelf available products.

June 17, 2012 10:45 am

Thank-you once again Anthony for providing such an open and enlightening forum, and also posting my guest blog. I just wish to address a few points now. (as there are so many points raised in the comments section). 1) I have become increasingly convinced that the sun, not our fossil fuel emissions have caused the most recent golbal climate changes. I will admit to a small influence from C02 and other so called greenjouse gases, but when you consider C02 as only making up approximately 0.04% of the atmosphere, then I think the role of C02 is placed in prespective. I am also now writing a new and updated submission on my website that is a follow-up to what I called “Trouble in the Greenhouse”, where I attempt to more fully address this important isssue (website http//www.bcclimate.com. 2) I used all the (what I considered valuable references I could glean, from yes the very conservative Science journals( as well as some others) The very conservative ones that I have had not had any encouragement from whatsoever include Science and Nature. I however took not what so much was concluded in the articles, but what I perceived as holes in the research, or simply in some cases what they reported. Many of references do date from the early to late 1990’s and early 2000’s, it is true,. but really with some exceptions, that is when most of the North Atlantic Ocean circulation work was done. Yes there is an exception in regard to the black mat and nanodiamond work which is ogoing, but I felt in guest blog I did not need to rehash this again. Finally, I did include the Taylor Dome ice core reference in my book “Sudden Cold: An Investigation into the Younger Dryas”, and yes it was I think a very valuable reference as the cooling is contemporous with most of the rest of the world (a fact that also favours a cosmic origin for the Younger Dryas.

June 17, 2012 11:09 am

the argument isn’t about whether a sudden rush of freshwater went out the St. Lawrence, the Mississippi (the later emptying went out into Hudson’s Bay) or Arctic Canada, but whether there was a sudden rush at all.
That is simply not true. The Campbell strandline is a high water stand which occurred after the Younger Dryas and in particular after the Marquette readvances blocked outflow. The Herman Tintah Norcross strandlines are now understood to be a high stand and slow and methodical drainages before the Younger Dryas, when thereafter the lake drained suddenly to the Moorehead phase low stand well before the Campbell beach was deposited. There isn’t much evidence of any intermediate strandlines between the well demarked Campbell beach strandline and the Moorehead low stand. The Moorehead low stand is fairly unambiguous in its effects.
Claiming the Moorehead drainage didn’t occur is not supported by any evidence I am aware of. There are other sources of LIS water during this period, the Great Lakes themselves and Glacial Lake Vermont (which intermittently became the Champlain Sea during this period as well). all of which contributed to the fresh water discharge into your favorite or preferred discharge location. The forcing didn’t necessarily have to be catastrophic, but there were unambiguous catastrophic discharges all throughout the LIS decay period. Timing, magnitude and duration are everything.

Peter Foster
June 17, 2012 11:47 am

Was the Younger Dryas an unexpected return to cold after the start of the interglacial, or was it an unexpected warming that just happened to occur only a few thousand years before the real interglacial started.
If you extrapolate the temperature decrease that was occuring before the Younger Dryas to the coldest part at 13000 years ago then the actual temperature is the same as the extrapolated temperature would be at that time. This would tend to suggest that it was the extreme warming before the Younger Dryas which was unusal. Perhaps we should be looking at what might have caused that warming rather than looking at what caused the YD cooling.
Has anyone looked at that possibiity ?

G. Karst
June 17, 2012 12:04 pm

Peter Lang says:
June 16, 2012 at 10:34 pm
Given the Younger Dryas happened so suddenly and given that if something similar happened again the consequences would be extremely bad for mankind, it seems to me a good risk management strategy would be to get as much insulation around the planet as possible and get rid of those hazardous polar ice caps as quickly as possible.

Captain Ahab said it best:

Towards thee I roll, thou all-destroying but unconquering ice sheet; to the last I grapple with thee; from hell’s heart I stab at thee; for hate’s sake I spit my last breath at thee.

GK

June 17, 2012 12:08 pm

Reblogged this on Climate Ponderings and commented:
Mr. Chilton and Mr Watts, thank you.

Elizabeth Elmore
June 17, 2012 12:15 pm

George E. Smith; says:
June 17, 2012 at 10:43 a
I discovered the benefits of taking a Navy shower with a dish sponge, instead of a basin of water. So now my daily ritual, is down to less than a cup full of water, and the soap lasts much longer, too, and doesn’t pollute the drainage as much. You should try it if you really are concerned about water conservation.
I’m not for clear cutting of forests and turning the forest nymphs out in the cold and dust; seems to me there really aren’t any Native American tribes living in their old homes in the LA basin any more either.
Clear cutting, and prompt replanting, is a standard method of forest husbandry, for wood products; but I’m not for leaving cut national forests unplanted. The reason these forests ARE National Forests; rather than State or privately owned lands, simply recognizes, that people in every State, have an interest in access to forest products; whether they have local forests for the nymphs to run around in or not.
George:
Could it be that you do not know that
National forest boundaries are sold off by the US Forest Service of the Dept of Agriculture to the highest bidder. The government builds the roads to allow the timber to be harvested. The revenue from the sale of the timber often does not pay for the cost of the tax-payer funded roads, and the timber (at least in the west) is often sold to Japan, not locally milled.
You are right that the forest in question in EAST of Bakersfeild, North-East in fact.
And the forest boundary had been promptly replanted, the trees just had not grown because of lack of water. Where the Western Devide Hwy turns into 190, take a left and tell me how the trees are doing. The ones that made it are 10 feet high and 40 years old now. Replants from clear cuts in the 70s.
Clear cutting, applied willy-nilly regardless of climate or terrain is the most destructive and lazy “innovation’ to beset forestry since slash and burn as it exposes the soil to drying and erosion,
These same trees would be 100 feet high in areas with more rainfall. Take a drive to Lake Isabella. If I remember correctly there is a section of an 8 foot tree truck in Wofford Heights and pictures in the restaurant in Kernville show huge trees that were removed from the ridges around town that are now barren. Man has definitely impacted the area and not for the better, the pictures on the walls tell the story.
What man does man can sometimes undo, but not if we continue in denial. If we stop timber sales in simi-arid areas, whitened all the dark pavement and put solar out roofs through such companies as Solar City, (something something some of the wealthy in India are doing, then we will be going more in the right direction.

Gilles
June 17, 2012 12:26 pm

Judy W says:
June 17, 2012 at 9:12 am
“Charles Hapgood’s theory of sudden crustal displacement is still out there but not given much credence with the scientific community”
I agree that it would account for a few discrepancies, if the American continent moves north suddenly, the glaciers of South America retreat, the Amazon forest becomes much drier and Central America becomes much colder. It could also explain why during the catastrophe that ends the younger Dryas, mammoths are frozen in Siberia and part of Alaska, but a huge flood destroys them in North America.

June 17, 2012 12:30 pm

Elisabeth Elmore,
Replace “Man” with “Government” in your post and you will see the central problem. Most of the land held by the federal government should be sold off. Private owners take good care of their property; the government does not. Government is the problem, as it usually is.