Mann -vs- ATI case–unsettled

Prince William climate case judge already anticipating the appeal

By Tom Jackman Washington Post

The e-mails of climate researcher Michael E. Mann are at the heart of a Freedom of Information Act case that will almost certainly wind up in the Virginia Supreme Court. (Tom Jackman – The Washington Post) If you’re into predicting the outcome of a legal case based on the comments made by the judge, retired Arlington Circuit Court Judge Paul Sheridan’s questions to the lawyers in the climate change/Freedom of Information case Monday were pretty interesting.

When the lawyer for renowned climate scientist Michael Mann said that the FOIA request for his e-mails by Rep. Robert Marshall (R-Prince William) and the American Tradition Institute was calculated to annoy and harass Mann, Sheridan interjected: “How does that affect their legal right to FOIA production? Do we have a ‘purity of heart test’ before we apply the FOIA acts?”

Later, when Mann’s lawyer said that the process of peer review for research was “the bedrock of science,” Sheridan responded, “But is it the bedrock of open government? …Why does the general public have to trust scientists? Citizens wonder about open government. Why don’t we have access to the process? … FOIA is saying citizens have a right to see what government is doing.”

But at the end of four hours of argument, the judge did not grant ATI’s immediate request for 12,000 withheld e-mails written while Mann was a professor at U.Va., and did not rule that the school had waived its right to withhold the e-mails by providing them to Mann last fall. Instead, Sheridan acknowledged that however he rules, the case is headed to the Virginia Supreme Court to resolve several key FOIA issues the case raises:

Read more here:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-state-of-nova/post/prince-william-climate-case-already-anticipating-the-appeal/2012/04/17/gIQAfE1BNT_blog.html

Dr. David Schnare writes in with this:

Chris Horner and I will do a write up on the hearing after we get the transcript and can use actual quotes. In the mean time, you may wish to point interested readers to the Washington Post article. It gives some useful insights.

There were some block buster things that came out of the hearing, as you’ll see when we get our write up done. For example, the court forced UVA to admit on the record that the climate change debate is by no means settled. Just one example.

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Gail Combs
April 19, 2012 1:12 pm

klem says:
April 18, 2012 at 5:33 am
I do not want Mann’s emails made public. And I’m not sure I would trust a judge to decide which ones are too private. This is an invasion of privacy, I think we are treading on thin ice here…..
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Sorry dude, that issue was addressed a long, long time ago. Invasion of privacy, only refers to you home PERIOD. That is why Monsanto was allowed to trespass on farmers fields and collect evidence that was then used to sue farmers. It is also why PETA can trespass a half mile down your private drive and into your backyard and get photos to take you to court. (My neighbor)
(Why is the “CHANGE” alway in 1970’s or thereabouts?)

Katz v. United States
….As the Court’s opinion states, “the Fourth Amendment protects people, not places.” The question, however, is what protection it affords to those people. Generally, as here, the answer to that question requires reference to a “place.” My understanding of the rule that has emerged from prior decisions is that there is a twofold requirement, first that a person have exhibited an actual (subjective) expectation of privacy and, second, that the expectation be one that society is prepared to recognize as “reasonable.” Thus, a man’s home is, for most purposes, a place here he expects privacy, but objects, activities, or statements that he exposes to the “plain view” of outsiders are not “protected,” because no intention to keep them to himself has been exhibited. On the other hand, conversations in the open would not be protected against being overheard, for the expectation of privacy under the circumstances would be unreasonable….

Most employers make it very clear that there is not “expectation of privacy” at work. As a lab manager I have had my telephone conversations monitored and my e-mails read as a matter of company policy. I might not like it but it is expected in this modern age. The existence of FOIA (July 4, 1966) makes it just as clear to government employees that there is no “expectation of privacy” at their place of work either.

The Freedom of Information Act (FOIA)
The U.S. Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) is a law ensuring public access to U.S. government records. FOIA carries a presumption of disclosure; the burden is on the government – not the public – to substantiate why information may not be released. Upon written request, agencies of the United States government are required to disclose those records, unless they can be lawfully withheld from disclosure under one of nine specific exemptions in the FOIA. This right of access is ultimately enforceable in federal court.
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/nsa/foia.html

VIRGINA (See: The full text of the Freedom of Information Act in a form showing all amendments to the statute made by the “Openness Promotes Effectiveness in our National Government Act of 2007.” )

The Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) provides that any person has a right of access to Federal agency records, except to the extent that such records are protected from release by a FOIA exemption or a special law enforcement record exclusion. It is VA’s policy to release information to the fullest extent under the law.

A Judge have already ruled that the University of Virgina is not a “corporation” or a person but a government entity. (See: http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/2012/mar/02/11/va-supreme-court-rules-against-cuccinelli-uva-clim-ar-1735035/ )

Gail Combs
April 19, 2012 1:22 pm

I should also add to the above comment the case of United States v. Nixon where Leon Jaworski took the matter of Nixon’s taped conversations with his advisors all the way to the Supreme Court. E-mails are the modern day equivalent to those tapes.
http://wacohistoryproject.org/PDFandText/History_Fair_DCM_09.pdf