Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach
It doesn’t happen often … some would say not often enough … but I’m speechless.
Truly, I don’t know what to say about this. I can only shake my head and point and laugh. They are truly getting desperate.
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Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach
It doesn’t happen often … some would say not often enough … but I’m speechless.
Truly, I don’t know what to say about this. I can only shake my head and point and laugh. They are truly getting desperate.
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Gail Combs says:
April 4, 2012 at 3:10 pm
“This is definitely a future possibility we need to keep an eye on….
A CLINICAL ANALYSIS OF ANTI-GOVERNMENT PHOBIA
Ivor E. Tower, M.D.
Journal of Clinical Psychiatry
Volume 11, series 3, pages 4-5
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Gail, I don’t find any other publications of Dr. Ivor E. Tower… but I find this…
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2844948/posts
I literally LOLed at the graphic and its words. On a more serious note, ‘The Whole World’s Goin’ Crazy’, by April Wine:
http://tinyurl.com/aprilwine
I think what is more important is the psychological effect on the misled masses when they understand it was blown out of all proportion and is not dangerous at all. The consequential loss of faith in authority, both scientific and political, could spark a slow and dangerous revolution. I have no idea how it might pan out, however.
…anxieties could
increase with continuous
and frequent media
reports on the subject…
That is pretty much the summary of the study.
Frank Lee MeiDere says:
April 4, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Hmm. I live in easy walking distance to the northern Concord city line. Good thing that when I retire I expect to be moving some 35 miles NNW and part way up a mountain.
Ric Werme says:
April 4, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Then your sanity is assured.
This particular shark was jumped at least two years ago. Back then i noticed a number of seminars on offer at my local university. These included one from a rent seeker looking at the effects of global warming on human psychology.
What about the psychological effect of their constant nagging and haranging on those of us with common sense and 2 brain cells to rub together?
Doesn’t OUR psychological well-being count?
If they truly cared about others’ psychological well-being, they would SHUT UP.
This PDF is a fraud. There was no forum on the date mentioned.
Closest forum that even remotely resembles this fraud is the PEW Trust meeting at
Mount Vernon, where Gavin S. was present.
There was also a Capital Hill gathering,which Lord Monckton was present at about the same time,
but none of these so called participants were gathered together for a forum in DC on
March 19th 2009.
Are we sure this is not some April Fools joke.
Because if it is. I’m not [snip . . . kbmod] laughing.
Fear is the greatest motivator known to man. It matters not whether the fear is warranted.
observa says:
April 4, 2012 at 9:06 am
Mind you they might have a point since they’ve been making kids neurotic for many years as this oft quoted 2007 kiddie survey discovered at the time-
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/kids-fear-global-warming-more-than-terrorism-car-crashes-and-cancer-according-to-national-earth-day-survey-58684647.html
And with the daily news diet of floods, tsunamis, tornadoes, etc from around the world in our living rooms, it doesn’t take much for our ‘concerned’ educators to associate it all with global warming and give the kiddies nightmares. After all the assault on young minds begins very early in the kindergartens and reception.
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I wouldn’t put much stock in BrainPop’s survey.
” BrainPOP’s “Global Warming” movie explains the nuts and bolts of this issue, while the “Humans
and the Environment” movie discusses some of the many things children can do to contribute in a positive way to the health of the planet, including conserving electricity, participating in neighborhood cleanups, and making their voices heard.”
IN SHORT:
They asked the questions after showing their movies.
Had they shown a movie about CAR CRASHES or CANCER then asked??
If a true survey on fear was done:
I think the fear of losing a Parent / Family member / Loved one…would always come out on top.
Seconded by the Social Death of being grounded on the weekend. 🙂
Scarface says:
April 4, 2012 at 12:40 pm
kim2ooo says:
April 4, 2012 at 7:48 am
(…) Narcissistic traits:
“An exaggerated sense of one’s own abilities and achievements.
A constant need for attention, affirmation and praise.
A belief that he or she is unique or “special” and should only associate with other people of the same status.
Persistent fantasies about attaining success and power.
Exploiting other people for personal gain.
A sense of entitlement and expectation of special treatment.
A preoccupation with power or success.
Feeling envious of others, or believing that others are envious of him or her.
A lack of empathy for others.”
Al Gore?
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🙂 C’mon. Be nice. Don’t just single out him…..Albeit: IMO he’s a perfect poster child 🙂 Wikipediagate – Climategate – Fakegate – This report…. don’t just show us “bad boys at play”. IMO they are a window to the psychological personalities projected by the players.
ClimateForAll says:
April 5, 2012 at 1:22 am
> This PDF is a fraud. There was no forum on the date mentioned.
I believe there’s no law that a forum must have proceedings published. I did some poking around and found a big event in New Mexico that had no sub events about climate or warming, so that’s out.
March 19th was a Thursday, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was a fairly small group that met in a conference room at someone’s place of work. That’s how NFS V4 was started – 8 or 9 engineers meeting in Austin TX for two days at the obvious company (no, not Dell). I might be able to find a reference to that on the web, but given that the topic was the Network File System, the challenge would be to find the first reference (and we called it NFS Next Generation, anyway).
I picked a couple rare names from the list of participants to see what Google had to say about pages that list both, but didn’t find much of interest. Have you tried taking that list and looking at their CVs or related web pages that list conferences attended?
Proving that something happened can be easy – proving it didn’t can be very tough. I think you need to present better evidence before asserting fraud. Heck – how do you know the date is right?
Keith Battye says:
April 4, 2012 at 4:56 am
Good grief !
That is the most appalling “reasoning” I have ever had to read. They really do want to disappear us.
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And as well we should. We ought to be ashamed causing all this trauma. I’m thinking re-training camps. Maybe they could set up walk-in clinics for our monthly shots for our obvious delusion. Surely, they have a good drug in mind to combat our deranged thinking.
The lead graphic and story make me wonder whose minds are in trouble. Someone thinks like this? Yeah, but then the NWF paid for the image and the report. Again, whose minds are in trouble.
@Ric Werme–
You are correct. I just find it fascinating that a think tank meeting can be later described as a conference/forum without much fanfare of 24 notable leaders in their perspective fields of experience.
I did like how Joe Romm said,” I expected a discussion about how the continuing onslaught of frightening science is producing documented cases of “climate blues” among children.
What I heard instead is that the climate blues is infecting climate activists…”
I used to be a climate skeptic but I’m alright nowooooooooo
Kim2000 says- “I wouldn’t put much stock in BrainPop’s survey”
No I wouldn’t either but it was the precursor of many and I was searching for a recent news report of a similar survey in Oz but hadn’t found it However another search came up with this handy rundown of the results of frightening kiddies with complex adult science-
http://climatelessons.blogspot.com.au/p/climate-anxiety-reports-of-frightened.html
I have young relations with early primary schoolers and they are disgusted with the propaganda that is being fed to their children too young to understand any of it except to retain some child’s bogeyman/nightmare view of the world which they as parents have to deal with.
markx says:
April 4, 2012 at 7:24 am
Gotta love the intro by van Susteren and Coyle:
Sounds like the theme of a bad teen novel aimed at schoolgirls:
Questions beg to be asked:
• What will the rest of the world think of us?
• Where will we be safe?
• How will we feel about ourselves?
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Will he still respect me in the morning?
observa says:
April 5, 2012 at 8:47 am
http://climatelessons.blogspot.com.au/p/climate-anxiety-reports-of-frightened.html
I have young relations with early primary schoolers and they are disgusted with the propaganda that is being fed to their children too young to understand any of it except to retain some child’s bogeyman/nightmare view of the world which they as parents have to deal with.
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Thank you for the links!!! 🙂
I can both agree with you and attest to the post-normal science scare going on – at least in my schools. Thankfully, I’m mostly home schooled .
I don’t know what the answer is to correct it….but if parents don’t challenge it – it will continue. 🙁
ClimateForAll says:
April 5, 2012 at 1:22 am
This PDF is a fraud. There was no forum on the date mentioned.
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For those claiming this is a fraud, it’s linked directly at the NWF;
http://www.nwf.org/News-and-Magazines/Media-Center/News-by-Topic/Global-Warming/2012/~/link.aspx?_id=2A8F5BC67470411589C47CD06FFF2D5A&_z=z
Are people claiming the page has been hyjacked and this was inserted? You might hope it was skeptic conspiracy but it doesn’t look likely. Maybe “big oil” is behind this?
LC Kirk, Perth says:
April 4, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Surely we must have found a better way of estimating global atmospheric paleo CO2 concentrations by now than looking at squashed gas bubbles in ice cores…. Are we even looking?
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Actually it was looked at first using stomata on the leaves of plants: http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/stomata.html
I wish to complement the artist of this psychology piece. Your work is brilliantly subversive. I know what gave you the idea. Their is no greater art than cleverly subverting your master.
“It also is a call for professionals in the mental health fields to focus on this, the social justice issue of all times, with their capacity to work through denial and apathy, to bring insight and commitment before it is too late.” – Source
It sounds like one of the objectives is plowing the ground for climate change denial reeducation camps. If you deny climate change, the mental health professionals will help you work through your mental illness before it is too late.
They listed suicides relating to Afghanistan, the military and associated the war to climate change.
They used 9-11 photos to illustrate the relationship of terrorism to climate change.
Every possible natural disaster is inferred to do with climate change policy (co2 mitigation or lack of).
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Skeptics need to address the underlying political culture of greens first, technical attributes of the debate are effectively secondary as the source article demonstrates. Do you really expect them to debate obscure climate data with you??