David “fruit fly” Suzuki goes ballistic, and advocates retracting all rights from skeptics. I’m mentioned as some sort of baddie central, but at least I don’t dress up with Santa Claus to scare the kids and ask their parents to send me money. Where’s that DDT when you need it?
From the Huffington Post:
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/david-suzuki/climate-change-denial_b_1325198.html
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“This public responsibility is especially important in light of the stepped-up efforts to deny the reality of climate change, or the role humans play in it. Cases in point are illustrated by the “denialgate” scandal revealed by the release of Heartland Institute documents and the revelation that Ottawa’s Carleton University hired Tom Harris, a PR man for a number of “astroturf” groups with a mechanical engineering background, to teach a course on climate change.
“There are many credible sources of information, and they aren’t blog sites run by weathermen like Anthony Watts, or industry-funded fake science organizations. One place to start is at Skeptical Science. Click on the tab that says “Arguments” for scientific responses to all the main climate change denier talking points.
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Apparently, I’ve irritated the fruit fly. WUWT must be having an effect then. In truest fashion, he can’t be bothered to name the website much less link to it, but it is nice to see that I’m irritating him.
– Anthony
UPDATE: It seems all is not well in Fruit Fly land. His foundation website doesn’t even register on Alexa.com due to it having a traffic rank greater than 100K. Lower number is better:
And, “skeptical science” is down in the grass.
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/davidsuzuki.org+wattsupwiththat.com+skepticalscience.com
Here’s Suzuki’s traffic ranks by country (lower is better, for example, Google is #1)
And here’s mine:
Must really bite when a web site run by some “evil denier TV weatherguy” kicks your butt in your own country. WUWT actually does more than twice as well in Canada as Suzuki.
Maybe I should send him some “denier swarms” to boost traffic.
Rex Murphy:
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2011/12/03/rex-murphy-give-us-money-or-santa-gets-it/
007 says:
March 9, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Who is David Suzuki?””
David is a Japanese guy who lives up the end of my street. He likes being Japanese, but he doesn’t like his surname. When he goes to visit his fathers relations in Tokyo he gets goaded about his surname. The locals guys call him names like, buzzybox, slippery suzy and uki suzuki. When he tells them he doesn’t even have a motorbike, they just laugh at him.
Well done!!! the man is a without doubt a complete fruit loop. I cannot think of a more anti-democratic, unscientific and anti-educational thing to advocate. Keep up the good work, it is obvious to all that these quasi-religous nuts are on the ropes.
OK, the real question raised when reading this post is: Why is WUWT so popular in Honduras?
All that stuff about Suzuki is a side show – he is just another CAGW crank, addicted to bad science and inflating his own ego – so who cares?
Why are they so afraid of free speech?
Because they are frightened we will hear the truth…..
There is quite the back and forth going on in the troll-ments over at HP. Nice to see the ‘debate’ is alive and well everywhere. What would the world be like if most people had a general knowledge of science so that political arguments did not fill in for scientific evidence?
This site’s usual vilification of scientists aside, the northern sea ice volume is a serious problem, with high cost impacts on people, global warming feedback and ecosystems.
http://psc.apl.washington.edu/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/schweiger/ice_volume/BPIOMASIceVolumeAnomalyCurrentV2.png?%3C?php%20echo%20time%28%29%20?
He says that : “Armed with credible information we can challenge those who misrepresent science and spread confusion”.It would be nice if he took some of his own medicine himself . Was he not the same guy who went on Canadian National Television[CBC] and said solar energy is free , or buy CFL light bulbs that were never tested , or that Canadian winter sports would be finished , etc . Who is really spreading misinformation. Debate the science David instead of smearing anyone that happens to disagree with you . Your idea of freedom seems to apply to only those who think like you. I guess you have never heard of the Canadian Charter of Rights . Very unfortunate .
As for the idea that the warmists are on the run, that’s unfortunately not what I’m seeing.
Deny Deniers their Right to Deny!
OK, this is a headline, written by the headline writers. In keeping with the spirit of the article, the missing second clause, as written in the article, is
by “becom[ing] informed”
A person normally becomes informed by reading the literature to learn about and then understand the issues, the relative effects of this issue, the pros and cons of the proposed responses by the various advocates. And they are all advocates: very few people write for free, there are no disinterested and/or dispassionate analysts, they are all looking for a payday.
A charitable interpretation of the headline is: get informed so you can make an informed evaluation, rather than taking somebody else’s word for it.
(Of course, the uncharitable interpretation of the headline is obvious: free speech only for the “right” advocates. Everybody else: shut up, or you’ll be muzzled.)
So what does Suzuki recommend as the path to become informed:
[Don’t read Watts or those] courageously unnamed [fake sites]
There are many credible sources of information …
Skeptical Science …
New York Review of Books [article] by Yale University economics professor William D. Nordhaus.
So his recommendation is, only become partially informed, read what he considers are “credible” sites, and then appeals to authority: New York … Yale … Professor.
Lame. That’s all they got? Shut up and read what I tell you?
This is the writings of a true believer, or somebody looking to preserve his payday by ad-homming down the other claimants. Man, this is weak. Either they think we are all stupid, or having lost everyone else, they are trying to preserve their core. The agonal utterances of losing advocates.
For a guy who spent time in a Canadian Interment camp you’d think he’d be more sensitive to basic human rights.
Dr Fruit-Fly and his Leader Choo-Choo Pachuri are getting more and more frantic they are as dated as platform shoes, disco balls and bell bottoms.Thank you for getting the little tyrant in a snit.
Funny comments! When they start laughing at you…..it’s over.
Suzuki links through to Yale economist William Nordhaus, writing about why the sceptics are wrong. http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2012/mar/22/why-global-warming-skeptics-are-wrong/?pagination=false
This is a truly weakly argued piece, but does contain this nugget:
“A look at Table 5-1 in my study A Question of Balance (2008) shows that the cost of waiting fifty years to begin reducing CO2 emissions is $2.3 trillion in 2005 prices. If we bring that number to today’s economy and prices, the loss from waiting is $4.1 trillion. Wars have been started over smaller sums.”
If we wait 50 years, then it’s only $4.1 trillion? That’s not very much. That’s less than the cost of the recession. And if that’s the global total, then the US share then would only be something less than $1 trillion, about the budget deficit for a single year nowadays. I straight-forward interpretation of Nordhaus would seem to suggest that we should wait of couple of generations and handle it then, should the need arise.
@ur momisugly 007 says:
March 9, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Who is David Suzuki?
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He makes little rice-burner motorcycles. 😉
Fruit Flies And Global Warming: Some Like It Hot
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/01/070126125004.htm
Guys like David Suzuki highlights what is so wrong with AGW believing people who have no respect for open debates and does not respect the basic parameters of the “Scientific Method” that is normally followed in critically assessing science papers that are published.
He is against all that because he is a propagandist and a supporter of a new world order.He made that clear in the article with these words:
“What’s important though, is for those of us who rely on facts rather than spin to look at solutions. We can all do much more to reduce our environmental footprints, but the problem has grown so much that large-scale efforts are needed, and many of these must come from decision-makers in industry, government, and academia.
However, there appears to be reluctance in some of those circles to act unless the public demands it. And so it’s up to all of us to become informed. Then we can hold our leaders to account, and challenge those who refuse to see the big picture.”
Who’s big picture David?
Taking away freedom has always been the hallmark of the CAGW crowd. Free speech, property, money take it cause they know better. Oh forgot about the food police.
I visit this site to get up-to date with meteorological events and catch up with the industry-funded fake science. and laugh my ass off all day long. (LMAOADL)
When all other arguments fail, “shut up” is the only thing they have left. You shouldn’t be allowed to “deny” because …. what? Because it’s denying? And denying shouldn’t be allowed?
I challenge him to show me one database with any warming since 1998. Even with this year’s exceptionally mild winter due to the jet stream position, and even with NCDC’s continued fiddling with the database adjustments we still see 0.34F/decade cooling in the Continental US. Globally it is “even worse”. And so nobody accuses me of “cherry picking 1998, here is HADCRUT since 2004.
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/hadcrut3gl/from:2004/plot/hadcrut3gl/from:2004/trend
We can safely deny that any “global warming” has happened since 2004.
As a Canadian I am embarrassed by our home grown nut cases; the “Fruit Fly”, Maurice Strong and Andrew Weaver. At least we have countered with McIntyre, McKitrick and Laframboise.
Hopefully this kind of ‘tosh’ will stiffen Heartland’s resolve (as if it was necessary) to pursue their legal case against the fraudulent Gleick.
I was astonished to read just now on Donna L’s Blog that Gleick has somehow been rehabilitated in some quarters already – they seem to live in some kind of Wonderland
Is it any wonder that they really do sound like the old sovs and third reich-ers with the whole it is “your duty to deny those [input: anti-socialists, capitalists, realists, skeptics, “goblins”, women, and children] the rights of ordinary true believing citizens” …
What’s really odd is why they keep saying to “think of the children?!” When, in fact, if the world danced to their tune, they’d go all erlich on the planet and sterlize everyone for their own good to save the future children (from what? To be borne!)
Delingpole’s piece, linked to on Bishop Hill, is awesome. He makes a note that the alarmists will all cry “Godwin’s Law!” at the point that it’s 1945 in the Furherbunker for the AGW alarmists right now. Amazing how Suzuki lets his inner nazi slip out so easily. Yeah, yeah, Godwin’s law, big whoop. (as delinpole says) if the swastika fits, suzuki can wear it proudly.
Typical of the warmists to seek to deny everyone else freedom of speech, deny freedom of research, deny freedom of thought, deny freedom of opinion and deny reality. Yet they call us the deniers!?!?!?!?!?!?
Funny how something that would have seemed sinister and threatening not that long ago now just seems pathetic .